ODSP is criminally low and disabled people of all kinds are unable to afford shelter

I was in Hamilton and Toronto for the summer.....homeless. Toronto's way more comfortable to be. Hamilton shelters fed me though, and I found a place to go in Hamilton because I knew 2 people. Honestly living in the back of a store was better than the second place I went to. LUCKILY the only thing I lost was my jacket I thought was ugly anyways. However I still hope the person who stole it loses it.

There are still needles, and it often smells. It is a sad thing.

very early stage of the encampment

because more tax dollars are being spent to make them look cleaner

Vancouver is way worse

@@jabmalassiecompared to any other major city homeless encampment I’ve seen, Toronto’s is beautiful

I live 5min away from the Allan Gardens and my neighbors take there dogs to the dog park there, no one has been attacked or approached by anyone. Ironically I was walking home through the Allan Gardens at night, went home and then on CP24 they reported about a stabbing 10min after I passed through there. Sometimes it timing, who you associate with or just plain luck. The way you walk and give social cues helps sometimes. I always say there's the tourist walk and look vs the look of someone that's from the neibourhood.

​@@sirxavior1583 theres also disputes between to parties familiar with each other over money or drugs

Good sound

What's so Brave about this... Just grab a vdo and you have to be jobless and that's it

It’s Great to have this situation publicized. We need many people to become aware. However, a couple of hundred people camping in the park is nothing to what it could become. Compared to the refugee camps of tens of thousands of people crushed together in other countries.

@@trevaush "...Compared to the refugee camps of tens of thousands of people crushed together in other countries...", Canada is not supposed to be another Syria!!! Canada is supposed to be a wealthy country giving everyone a chance for decent living. It is NOT that any more. Sorry to tell you, but in places, it's a dump!

Am homeless too and went to Mississauga because it’s safer there and there’s a lot more parks that you can camp in forest type of parks and then in Toronto some homeless people are crazy and will try to rob you you can’t go to shelters cause you’ll get robbed I’ve tested this to, so yeah I’m surprise there’s a big ass camp like that all the homeless people should just gather up together and just do that in every single park to make a point that we need help .

I think that's part of the problem. It seems like Canadians turn a blind eye to the problems in their own country, thinking that it only happens in the US.

LITERALLY

This entire time under the rock 😮

A wonderfully generous shlt sandwich for torontonians to take a bite of. 😋

Unfortunately Canada isn’t really much different than the US on a lot of metrics. Homeless is one of them.

Thanks for the heart

Omg, who ruined that beautiful country 😢

Seems this is happening in every city in America and Canada! My area of town has always had a small community of homeless I'd say anywhere from 10-20 and now it's in the hundreds! Over 100 but possibly less than 200 but there is a bunch and this is in a two mile square area

I see what you mean it's San Francisco Los Angeles Oakland Portland etc this is happening everywhere

Toronto has ALWAYS had a homeless issue. The only difference is that now homeless people aren't chased into back alleys -- they are out in the open. The difference is visability.

Trudeau's immigration policies plus offloading the blame for lack of housing on the province is a major problem but you guys voted for him!

@@MikoWilson Yes but stats indicate it is getting worse.

BS.

And it makes total sense for them to stay in one of the most expensive cities in the world?

@@eldeluxo Yup! That's where all the freebies are.

​@@eldeluxoso if they all leave who's gonna do their jobs?

@@MJ_M They don't have jobs

I never see this reported on any local news outlets such cp24 or ctv

I ended up moving away from a bone breakingly violent older brother in toronto after our parents passed away. Greed when enabled, sure causes alot of homelessness. Please be safe, frostbite never really produces afterlives, please vote very carefully, if and when allowed.

@@truetech4158 Sorry you had to endure that. As far as voting.....Thusfar its accomplished diddly or worse. Entire economic systems need to be demolished and made equally fair for all!

Not in China. Not in Cuba. Not in Russia. Not in Vietnam. Not in Philipines. Not in Isreal either !

@@ianstuart5660no they don’t

If you share an apartment with 4 people, it becomes affordable. Migrant workers in China, live in a single room shared by 8 so they could survive in Hong Kong. This is a way if you really apply yourself. Don't expect Toronto to hand them the keys to a condo on the 26th floor and BMW.

Sounds like excuses

naw , 90% of those people are on drugs, let's not lie here

Have you heard of safe supply?

​@@mrcool76789could be people with disabilities and not only drugs

Lol if they were trying to be "neat and clean" about their finances they wouldn't be a burden to the city.

@@brucewayne3892 I get that, bat dude. I said it appears some of them are attempting to do something positive with what they CURRENTLY have. I have my own suspicions about how some got to where they are in life, as do you - but those are suspicions.

Vote Liberal.

exactly he maybe filming this today tomorrow he may be joining them . that goes for everyone judging these people as i no very well up to year ago i was homeless in Canada here and now got job small apt and happy it doesn't take much to become homeless

@@jameschapman7996 be frugal, and brace for more sht to come.

I'm sure that some watching that video consider the homeless population to still be the fault of immigration. At least, as a visible minority, I still get hit with that 1930s idea that ' immigrants caused North American problems '.

@@jameschapman7996 it can happen to anyone, I was homeless with a 16 year old son 9 years ago, put on the street by not 1 but 2 differant family members. we beat the odds, got a good job and moved out of the city. today my son has gone through coledge and my wife and i got back together.

More than enough

But drug addiction will not allow you to feed your own self

Resources are bought and sold .. nothing in life is free.

And a lot of people will still squander it ultimately becoming a burden and threat to those who managed their resources wisely.

Slow and steady were enroute

We are just as bad on a per capita basis... don't be fooled by the CBC narrative.

Hmm.. 40 years ago I was a small child, and walked through the park after dark, so our memories seem to differ.

@duluthdenfeld, those hotels are _not_ a solution to housing problems; actual _housing_ (with low _affordable_ *_monthly_* rent and _not_ hourly rates) needs to be built.

@@Neville60001they’re not a solution for homelessness but places that used to exist for hard-to-house populations like the YMCA/YWCA have either become much more specific about who they will house or have closed down altogether. Many of the single-room units were all a lot of people had & especially if you wanted to be able to remain downtown & close to services/appointments, that was as affordable as it gets. I know because I lived above Filmores from 1992-2021, and I was lucky to be able to stay even though it was technically a ‘hotel’. Still, seeing all those tents in Allan Gardens is troubling. I’m not sure what the solution is.

@@DuluthCentral218 Neville likes to talk about "affordable housing" to get likes on KZfaq.

@@Neville60001 Not with land values, permit fees and building costs the way they are. And affordable = taxpayer-subsidized to compensate for the money lost due to tenants being undercharged.

This. Although the situation has gotten worse recently, anyone who's lived downtown for any time at all knows this area has had homeless/drug issues for decades. Allen Gardens in particular. The 'i can't believe this is Toronto' sentiment is either naive/ignorant or hyperbolic. That being said I don't think there's anything wrong with making this video and am not attacking the creator, just want to give some perspective.

The cleanest encampment I have seen in Ontario yet that is not an official camping ground I hope you all continue to keep it clean If you are camping there❤😢

@@DiggyScott, that was a great perspective.

@@DiggyScott I lived and worked in that area more than 60 years ago and the area was not like this. Most of those free loafers are from outside of Toronto.

that area is called "The Track"

Talking to an imaginary friend is not going to help with this.

It's in every single western country, Canada is not unique.

Its happening everywhere

@@KP-wt8qr Nope, only in North America on any scale remotely like this. But carry on kidding yourselves it's not Your fault. Feel - Good! Or at least slightly less bad..

@@iainsanders4775 There's tent cities in France, Germany too, plenty other European countries lmao, google images search is your friend mate.

@@KP-wt8qr Austria doesn't have this problem.

exactly. people who run and work at certain shelters can be so evil to you, especially if you're someone they have even more incentive to discriminate against (black, queer, etc.)

They weren't offered housing. They were offered a shelter bed. You come in at a certain time and you live at a certain time your bed area. You don't have a home. Which would you prefer? a shelter bed or a tent. I'd go for the tent personally. If you went to a Canadian camp ground in the 1950s, you would have found a similar scene. I'm not minimalizing the plight of these unfortunate people. but my family of origin (4 kids a husband and wife) camped and traveled across N. America in the summer time. The places where we pitched our tent were very similar to this park. The communal washrooms were a bit better than a "Johnny on the spot", I guess. There might even be a swimming pool or a lake with a beach where we camped. I even remember my parents renting my brother and me a rowboat to keep us busy one evening. It must have been a very cheap rental because my parents were notorious penny pinchers. The trips were fun and we saw the continent. Paul Bunyans and Babe his Blue Ox in Minnesota. Lots of Burma Shave signs. The endless Prairies. The endless forests. One of our last trips to New Brunswick from Kingston we saw the Beaverbrook Art Gallery in Fredericton for free--my mother was always a culture vulture--and the swimming pool there was free as well. We were at the Calgary Stampede twice and my siblings made an overnight trip to Banff--I was too sick to go so I stayed at my Grandparents. As my mother once said to me later in life, "We traveled." We sure did--Algonquin Park, Bancroft Gemboree, Kingston before we moved here, various other camp grounds like Presqu'ile and Bon Echo and lots of campgrounds in northern Ontario. I don't remember anybody else in our working class neighbourhood going anywhere. It looks to me like most of the people in Alan Gardens during the daytime are probably out working or in cooling centres. The videographer is even distressed at a little dog doing his business at a distance from his owner's tent. What kind of life does this guy lead? The City should probably direct these people to showers and better washrooms and places where they can get water. There are lots of different ways to enjoy a city. My husband and a friend of his camped just outside of Montreal when they went to Expo '67. They pitched their tent after one visit and took it down and, then, came back to the same spot the next night after another day at Expo. Canadians have gotten too affluent, it seems.

@@dinkster1729 I guess the parks aren't made for families and children. Let them shoot up in front of the kids ... reasonable approach

​@dinkster1729 not to mention the rampant drug addiction problem. That's the elephant in the room.

Olivia Chow took over John Tory’s Toronto.

sometimes its safer to live in a park then in a housing complex

Yeah, my mom's family has been living in this country since the 1800s. It seems everyone who's alive nowadays doesn't have much of a choice. I've seen my friends and family attempt (and occasionally succeed) s*icude and things are seemingly getting worse. I should have never wasted my time going to school. My original plan was to travel the country. Now I'm too old and am recovering from a car accident. I can't work even if I wanted to, there are a lot less jobs than there were during the 90s. My only hope is to survive until tomorrow morning.

They can move somewhere else where rents are much more reasonable

London is the same

Where dude??? hahahah the whole country is unaffordable.@@paulburton8264

The more shelters you open, the more homeless people you'll have ...

@@robertsabharwal9787 At no point did i say shelters were the solution. Affordable housing is a small part of the the solution along with rent control. Its a matter of treating people like human being not cattle or animals.

@@nish.416 people get treated the way they treat others ..

@@robertsabharwal9787, how can you say that about vulnerable people suffering from mental health issues and who ended up homless because of a downward spiral caused by unemployment?

@@robertsabharwal9787 They will come from BC because the money is better in Toronto.

Libraries, mcdonalds, etc are usual places homeless people seek refuge in from the harsh winters.

Chow has made it clear that she wants tent cities to thrive

Chow's soft socialist approach will make the problem worse, and the city will end up electing a hardliner who will use police to clear out the homeless and put them on buses to other communities. This is always the pattern. (btw I know that park well, I used to attend church on the NE corner, and the Conservatory is/was great)

Because Olivia Chow has a money tree in her backyard because if she doesn't .nothing is going to change except your taxes will go up.

8 million to rename Dundas Street so everyone will feel better. Food and housing not important

@@billboggs6641 ain't that the ridiculous truth!

Don't worry the new arrivals will be housed and cared for

Are these druggies or homeless? They can be one or the other, or both. I honestly feel indifferent about druggies. Negative if anything. They instigate people in the subway. Even in financial districts. In USA. It is the opiates that insurance covered. How about the addicts in Canada? If getting screwed by the insurance Companies. I understand. But being addicts from doing it for pleasure? Look. I want to smoke weed 24/7. But I can't afford it. And so I work on what I can afford. Why would I have to pay for their mistakes? Their fuckups? I get picked on by these people a few times a week. I hate these people

My thoughts exactly. I find it disturbing, in a way. I've seen a lot more people rush to the aid of a dog rather than actual people countless times, it's disheartening.

He thought dog was injured, animals can't speak. What are you doing to help all the homeless. I'm down thier 4 nights a week helping

@@Jackman8594 oh good for you, you want a cookie? I absolutely help people, i just don’t go around bragging about it and filming people in there vulnerable state.

they are doing fine they have tents for homes, they are not helpless.

You know, I lived in communism and we kept talking about the rotten west. That it is so is now increasingly visible.

Have you never been to any other major city in the world? That's how it is... what do you expect the average person to do?

@@stephen9609 I have and in some cities it's even worse. I genuinely didn't feel like my life was in jeopardy while walking through Toronto, but you do in NYC. Kensington Ave. in Philadelphia, PA is a nightmare.

@@stephen9609, the average person can do a lot; for one, they can _stop_ reading and listening bto neocon drivel that makes them act against their own best interests; for two, they can stop voting for the politicians (Rob Ford, Doug Ford, Mike Harris, Stephan Harper, etc.) who espouse (and then carry out) the same sentiments expressed in the abovementioned neocon drivel.

@@Neville60001 Canada was better off under Stephen Harper. And Mike Harris was elected in response to Bob Rae tanking Ontario, never mind how his rent control policies created a housing shortage. Doug Ford got elected because Ontario got sick of Kathleen Wynne and Dalton McGuinty turning Ontario into a have-not province.

What an uplifting story, I guess everyone should just change their blood

🙄

Utubemoderator, why the race baiting trolling? 🤮 and Harvard smith why you take the bait?

Most people aren't eligible for status cards

Some did last winter. Brrr

Oh, people do...

Oh yeah if only housing was -200K that would solve these problems......yeah right

Why do the poor want to live in one of the world's most expensive cities? I can't afford to live in Toronto, I moved.

@@MsKleinlaut have you considered they might not be able to afford even moving away? if you're in a tent like this, you have little to no choice. public transit between cities is nonexistent, even housing in cities like kitchener are majorly expensive right now. the entire country is in a cost of living crisis... 20 years ago my parents bought their house for 180k. now houses in this neighborhood are 500k and rising.

@@viiuan much of the world has a cost of living crisis.

@@nogreatreset8506 i know that, but if you look into it, Canada currently has the worst housing crisis in the entire world. just look up a comparison graph between other countries' rising housing costs. it's awful and one reason i'm glad i don't have to move away from my parents right now.

BS, they use the dogs as they panhandle for money because it attacks sympathy. Anyone who has worked downtown knows this. It is a total con

It seems like they can but choose to pay lip service when the pressure mounts. Hollow promises are really easy to make.

Why should it be up to the government to do something? Educations is free. School books are free. It's up to the individual to get an education, a job, and pay for their lodging.

@@MsKleinlaut Maybe because we already pay them - and government CLAIMS that it's something they want to do something about. But yeah, I guess it's just as simple as getting an education and then getting a job. It's not like there are any impediments or other issues. It's all that simple.

Our gocernment cares more to launder money into ukraine

And the replies (both sides) to your question are the same when it is asked here in the US. I always hope someone can think of a workable solution (I most certainly have not figured it out) rather than just the bickering that goes back and forth.

It's everywhere now. Every city is dealing with this. Much larger societal problems.

ask Trudeau

@@wishteria234 bro.. Ford has disabled people living on 1300 a month. If they didn't rent years ago they are on the street. Blame the guy who is responsible at the very least..

People who live there make the choice to be homeless. There are programs set up for them to start fresh and start making money and getting into real places to live and they refuse to work. It's choices they've made. If you hear interviews from some of them they tell you these things but some will just complain and put the blame else where

@@blueberrypomegranate you speak like you've never had to access any of those programs. Neither OW or ODSP will cover rent. You have a minimum waitlist of 1 year for mental health assessment, then more for treatment. Good luck renting a place with less than rent. The province made this choice by doing nothing for 20 years on these "programs" ..

@@wishteria234 Federal government is not involved in municipal issues.

Well, it's not like that. there are no homeless people in my country. Things are changing and western dominance is becoming a thing of the past. The whole world has a problem because nothing is set right.

My disabled friend was going to be homeless because of this very reason. I've had a roomie for just over a year now. No WAY was he going to live in a tent, not while I have breath in me. Halifax

The comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor. (Voltaire)

Shelters are not the answer

They need mental health services and access to jobs and housing

Shelters were not closed, just not enough spaces, it is always running in full capacity, just in July 2023, there was more than 400 refugee coming to Canada every single day! Right now, the shelters for homeless in Toronto, more than one third were actually occupied by refugees, not by local homelessness

Talking to an imaginary friend is not going to help here.

You would need a lot of buildings.

@@randomname9758 Their are homeless people, 80% being men in Toronto, but out of that 80% some belong in that population because of circumstances that put them in that situation, some people don’t want the help and don’t want to abide in rules; however, others are wanting to have that chance to get back on their feet again. This works only when a well designed and implemented system is in place and enforce codes of conduct and methods with educated personal in different realms of the healthcare system can work as a team to have any chance of accomplishing this. I have done papers on case studies for parallels similar to the problem we have in Toronto, but it’s a long dedication process with forecasts for multiple phases for example, a 2 year plan.

@@W0lf0f0dinn It’s not a matter of that, some of these people don’t want help because it would mean some type of therapy to recover from their addictions. The percent that want help will make efforts to recover. Alcohol recovery, believe or not, is the most difficult and dangerous which does need professional guidance and proper observations.

They'd destroy the building.

@@goldenretriever6261 With something like this, the employment of professional staff would be part of the implementation. The stigma such as you aforementioned is a problem and the idea of any kind of hope is destroyed….. HOPE IS DESTROYED. If you read my comment of how these places are run, you’d get the slight understanding; however, this is typical thinking of people who have no experience in assisting people with these issues. Homeless doesn’t point the finger at one area. I have listened to people with their many stories on how they became homeless and some even have Masters degrees. You’d think they’d be well off, it’s a circumstance for them to where they need help getting out of the mud and establishing stability. Look up Maslow's hierarchy of needs, it may help you get a better understanding to why some people are having trouble in todays battles .

What about New York and Los Angeles?

Take a look at any of the many DTES videos out there, and that should quickly make up your mind. I thought Victoria had a massive camp, too.

It's more than tripled in Halifax. We have had people living in tents year-round since 2020. This is in all cities, and people need to stop blaming the poor.

@@jennifermarlow. When you say Halifax, is it the "proper" Halifax (like our City of Vancouver), or including surrondigng region (like our Greater Vancouver)

It's not a contest. One homeless person is one too many homeless person.

@@erikt454 I don't need to look at them. I walk it - and that's the problem. You get desensitized.

No need to worry, they are being replaced by international people who don't like drugs and actually bear children.

Not a single doubt about it. Very unlevel playing field!

It's called savage capitalism. It started in the US in 1980

@Ace-hx4qw So very true. Savage is a great term to use. Time for the tables to be turned. How much does any individual really need?

what part of moss park? You mean beside queen street?

No there isn’t. Moss park is all fenced off due to Ontario Line construction

Interesting Toronto Star article a couple of weeks ago about the area between Allan Gardens and Moss Park. It pointed out how many older rental buildings and rooming houses have been torn down to build new condos.