Edit: Apparently the new Matco gun is not made by either IR or PTP. Here's testing the IR with the same air coupler as the Matco: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLich8x9yc7bf4U.html The creator of this channel also works in product development for Astro tools, which includes the 1895 that just got handed a whole lot of whoop ass by the MT3779. The dyno doesn't know what tool's strapped to it, but it's always a good idea to consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
@LabiaLicker5 ай бұрын
Transparency W
@zeitgeist27205 ай бұрын
Respect
@jjchouinard23275 ай бұрын
Was that water dripping from the hose fittings or oil?
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
@@jjchouinard2327 Air tool oil. We also used the same Milton V fittings. But some are rightly pointing out that the couplers were different between the two weeks we tested these. Which is a result of our red milton 5 way taking a dump, and needed to use a previous coupler we've used on the channel. But we can test the IR with the same coupler this week and add a link here (ETA Thursday). We've not seen a measurable difference before, but appreciate you guys highlighting this.
@Wolfman_33445 ай бұрын
If you are in product development, and you test pneumatic and electric impacts.. is there a chance Astro will develop electric tools at some point?
@jordanrussell3455 ай бұрын
The disconnect between the swappable anvil tips and the hammer is where all the torkems are escaping.
@sc50155 ай бұрын
Every slippable contact point of an impact is where beans slip through. Jack and his magical beanstalk only had one branch to the golden goose, just sayin'
@CallMeMrChainmail5 ай бұрын
I came to watch this but immediately underneath is a short of a guy shooting oxygen tanks. Sorry.
@Zipppyart5 ай бұрын
Guessing you came from Edwin? That guy is nuts and i love it
@orijimi5 ай бұрын
That sounds like a deeply uninteresting thing to watch. Glad I'm not getting that garbage.
@mishmash48915 ай бұрын
Where is this video you speak of
@ianwright65025 ай бұрын
Just had to go find that video. It’s awesome!
@yolosquad7805 ай бұрын
fair honestly
@mattsoutherden5 ай бұрын
IR: "Hey, thanks for making this for us China, would you like credit on the packaging?" China: * looks at backwards controls * "No, you guys go right ahead"
@jhutchison80965 ай бұрын
But it's assembled in USA: because you were in the USA when you assembled the anvil that China left left loose in the box.
@VMan76555 ай бұрын
This was the comment I was looking for. Thanks man you made my day 😂
@G5Hohn5 ай бұрын
The reason the extension adds power here is because the normal loss of torsional stiffness (as you'd get with thin extensions) is greatly reduced by a hugely thick diameter. Add to that the extra mass which acts a bit like a heavy socket and presto-- more avg torque.
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
Agreed, matches what we see with attachments so its behaving like a external attachment. Where as we're swapped to extended anvils on old school impacts with no measurable difference.
@MattA-787785 ай бұрын
I’m wondering how a 6” impact extension on a regular tool anvil comps to a 6” IR anvil?
@NVMDSTEvil5 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel now weld a bunch of weight onto the hammer assembly then transplant it into a milwaukee
@LukeA_55Ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel I'm curious to see what would happen if they made a weighted extension
@elijahto48755 ай бұрын
Seems about par for the course for IR to me. I used to work for IR air compressor division and every new iteration seemed to be less reliable and worse than the last. They seem like a company complacent in resting on their history.
@markm00005 ай бұрын
Every old company is like that nowadays. I have a cool waterproof Fluke multimeter and it has bad connections where the test leads plug into. It’s just a bad design. I live with it because I’m not measuring super precise stuff at work and I didn’t pay full price.
@billdoodson42325 ай бұрын
IR compressors were really rough for a long time. Atlas not much better and getting worse. I started using Compair and they went downhill, last lot were HPC (Kaeser) and much better. Glad I'm retired.
@Low7605 ай бұрын
Wurth stopped using their ones rebranded for similar reasons I think
@sgtbrown42735 ай бұрын
I feel you, brother, master Ingersoll Rand compressor technician here. Over 20 years with the company split my share of SSR 100-350s worked with the old XLE and PHE . I loved the company, but from 2000 to 2010, Ingersoll Rand basically sold their souls if you asked me. Crap Weg motors from china,the #$@ $#@% Nirvanas about destroyed our relationship with our customers. It's a complete shame because they ran off all their good technicians and ran the line in the dirt. I have all IR tools and compressors for my shop but old tools. Hell the Type 30 was the best line ever made but as you know they ruined that as well. Sad 😔
@Comm0ut2 ай бұрын
I got bahned for some reason by mentioning an American company whose initials are SB but they still make their very nice pumps in the US. I scored a couple used ones dirt cheap because they had three phase motors (no problem, I have an RPC) and it's convenient to be able to get parts.
@UnloadedRex5 ай бұрын
I got the Matco when they were still new on the trucks a few months ago. It is now the most powerful impact in our shop and it’s been fantastic.
@victorhoyt43525 ай бұрын
What's really crazy about this video is the reminder of just how powerful the dcf900 is...
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
In forward :P
@slingin_tires5 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Are forwards numbers not included on the rank chart for BCS? My memory tells me the 900 made 936-942 in forwards
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
@@slingin_tires they are. But depending on the chart it's only the battery they will include in a kit when tested
@slingin_tires5 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Understood
@ThePracticalPeasant5 ай бұрын
I for one appreciate the appearance of air tools; I haven't yet been fully converted to cordless...
@gf2e5 ай бұрын
I’m looking at these and wondering if I should be looking at air tools more :)
@ThePracticalPeasant5 ай бұрын
@@gf2e Depending on your exact use case, that might not be a bad idea... My two cents In a shop environment where there's alrealdy an air supply, I still think it's a no-brainer, despite the power density of batteries. I feel that by and large, pneumatic tools still provide a better combination of size, power, and and durability for a price as despite living in a very rust-prone geographic location, I have yet to come across a chassis bolt on a passenger vehicle that my decade old sub-$200 air-impact won't chew right through given a decent air supply. If the air line pisses you off, plumb an extension directly onto the tool to reduce the number of fittings around one's hand. I personally use a high quality swivel on the tool, followed by a 12' whip of light-gauge line, connected to heavy lines in the shop. 99% of the time, the reduced flow caused by the whip is still sufficient for the job at hand; and when it's not, temporarily removing the whip is quick and simple. There are plenty of air ratchets barely bigger than a tube of toothpaste, yet the average battery powered air-ratchet is of similar size to a 15A corded angle-grinder... a light air line that follows your arm will never be an issue if the tool doesn't easily slip in to tight spots. A small 1/4" battery gun for under-hood work? Sure, I get it, but where I live I'd prefer to break small fasteners free manually, lest the first two kicks of an impact wrench twist the corroded heads right off. YMMV
@stacksofslaps74425 ай бұрын
I will never nor will i be in a field that requires impact wrenchs, but something about this channel makes it addicting to watch
@NONO-hz4vo5 ай бұрын
I do eyeglass repair at the senior citizen center, Finding the adapters to get my 2235 turning screws was tricky but the RPMs have really helped my flat rate numbers.
@toddlaplanteVT855 ай бұрын
@NONO-hz4vo Nice! Just a few uggua-duggus.. dont want tweak the frames! 😂
@aussiegruber865 ай бұрын
Same 😂
@uiopuiop34725 ай бұрын
power tool make me feel like GOD
@carvesnow4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm in healthcare. I am obsessed with this channel.
@stevenhzoll70575 ай бұрын
Years ago SnapOn offered a splined anvil impact wrench, didn't work then either.
@derricktrottier6763Ай бұрын
you can get most of the domestic brand impacts that are 1" square drives in what the industry calls #5 splined anvil, and a bunch of companies make spline drive sockets, its mostly used in the petrochemical industry.... i worked in the pneumatic tool business for 20yrs, i retired about 9 yrs ago.
@JustinVodden5 ай бұрын
You have to put in the anvil yourself. That's how they can state "assembled in USA" you did the final assembly
@Jay-fc8hr5 ай бұрын
You changed the air hose quick disconnect between testing the IR and the Matco gun. Different quick disconnects can make a significant changes to air flow to the tool
@siberx45 ай бұрын
That spline drive is an interesting idea, but they'd need to somehow redesign it to eliminate backlash to avoid the power loss they're seeing because impact wrenches are intermittent tools. Maybe some kind of mild taper with a collar that locks it down into the splines?
@stephenbridges27915 ай бұрын
That's disappointing for the Ingersoll Rand. I have one I used back in the 70's and 80's. It was, and still is; a very good impact. They really need to do something about those settings being so out of register. A good many wouldn't figure that out, unless they were looking for it in advance. IR needs to take a look at your tests, at the very least. Really a shame.
@MustangAficionado5 ай бұрын
"Be careful with the settings on the 3/8" anvil" proceeds to have backwards power settings that swap around when you flip to forward. Does it come with a decoder ring?
@IcecalGamer5 ай бұрын
That UX "design" is something I'd expect from a Temu tool. It even has the "multitool" 10-in-1 attachment strat going
@klikliks_service5 ай бұрын
The 2135 is a beast bought it almost 20 years ago. Still works great. I'd like it if you tried the cornwell 1 in pistol grip.
@rashestkhan28785 ай бұрын
I have a 2135qxpa, it was pretty low on power so I ripped out the mufflers in the handle and around the motor, now its one of the most powerful in the shop
@freedomofmotion5 ай бұрын
Got a dcf 900 because of this channel. Happy to see it's still way up there.
@kevinsellsit55845 ай бұрын
You should be extremely proud of what you do. Things like running the gun at realistic shop pressures (130-150) and the charts make this the go to for industry and individuals. Thanks
@brandoncrimmins62965 ай бұрын
Years ago. Spline Drive guns were pretty common for guns the size of 3/4” and 1” . They had external splines though instead of internal and the sockets all had splined receptacles to match.
@Precisionreelworks5 ай бұрын
I still hold to the fact that something asked to do many things cannot do any one of them up to expectations. I wonder if the mass of the extended anvil behaves like a weighted socket. It would also be interesting to weld the anvil into the new IR and see how much it's really losing
@philmariop5 ай бұрын
Perhaps you could touch on the differences between "Made in USA" vs "assembled", buy American, and how those labels are regulated or total scammery.
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
Oh man, I could talk for a long time on this. But simply Made in USA has to be wholly or virtually all made and processed in the 50 states. If the product is close to raw material in finished state that needs to include sourced materials made in USA as well. Assembled in USA is one version of a qualified USA product. It requires finish assembly that undergoes as "substantive transformation" and usually should require skilled work and tools or machinery to perform. This was created back when finish assembly would be done in the US due to a more skilled workforce. Now-days it's more often (though not by everyone) used as a loophole as it's less regulated by the FTC, is harder to regulate, and IF you're ever "caught" it's not so much a punishment as a "hey, actually this is wrong, don't do that". People often think brands only do this for marketing reasons but there's a list of benefits to skating the line. - HTS codes. You can often bring a tool or product in as parts and pay a lower tariff %, or avoid the current 25% tacked most but not all Chinese products. - Patents. Sometimes the source country (if they care about these things) has a patent on a product and can't be made there. - Tax incentives. Counties and states in the US provide tax breaks to companies that employ a skilled workforce or produce US products. You can have a 90% workforce warehousing, shipping, logistics but 10% assembling tools and sometimes this still qualifies.
@emmettturner94525 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannelIt’s a bit like Brazil repackaging Japanese electronics, SOMETIMES in a Brazilian-made plastic shell, just to skirt import restrictions. When NAFTA happened all of North America switched to Made in Mexico.
@roadiez15 ай бұрын
Ford is known for this as well... A certain SUV is made in Mexico & Germany. But assembled in the good ol USA! Keeps the tariffs down, profit up, & quality below the belt! UAW finally had enough & went for the throat w\last contract negotiations. But with the EV fiasco the workers are probably looking at becoming more & more a couch potato 😢
@timplett15 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel "Made in USA" is definitely a lot looser than you're describing here as well. I previously worked for a Canadian company that made pipe for oil and gas wells. We purchased steel coils from Canadian steel mills, had them slit by a Canadian subsidiary of our company, then sent them to a pipe mill we built just over the border, where the steel slit coils were rolled into pipe. The pipe was then shipped back to the plant I worked at in Canada, where we heat treated the pipe, performed extensive testing on it, threaded the ends for assembly, then shipped it out the door as "Made in USA". Canadian raw materials, bulk of processing done in Canada, but apparently the fact that it became a pipe in the USA was substantial enough for the entire end product to be marked as made in USA. And this wasn't a fraudulent claim on "our" part either, this was signed off on by the US government for tariff and duties.
@ksavage6815 ай бұрын
Just assume everything is made in China, because it likely is.
@deluxe1of15 ай бұрын
I got that Matco in purple a few months ago and it kick ass like nothing else. It was expensive but it’s made its money tenfold.
@narcissistinjurygiver29325 ай бұрын
still very happy with my HF Earthquake red 1/2 impact gun. Running strong for over 7 years now in professional use.
@olgajoachimosmundsen46475 ай бұрын
You need to get a hold of the dcf860 and dcd1007. They are already available in Asia
@patrick1885 ай бұрын
The "issue" that causes higher performance in reverse at the low setting is not really an issue. The regulator reduces performance in forward by bleeding live air to exhaust which it cannot do in reverse. However, every 2 direction air motor requires what is called a secondary exhaust path which is incorporated into the reverse valve. This creates an air path from the non-driven side of the motor to exhaust which prevents recompression of air as the air chambers on the non-driving side of the motor compress. The forward regulator in the lowest setting allows for increased secondary exhaust flow, which increases performance. Not sure how you set air pressure for your testing but if you set it to 90 dynamically you should get close to the rated number, unless IR is rating it with a statistical Max for safety purpose.
@Dan-wt7jx5 ай бұрын
I like the idea of the interchangeable anvils, but if im reaching for air, we are in a serious situation, i jeed good power and i am going to just lay into it until the bolt moves, and im not sure if this isnthe gun for that gig.
@dingusbingus85545 ай бұрын
All this time and effort and only now is matco first of any to barely edge out the astro for 3x the price at that. What is going to be their next major flagship impact?
@justauser5 ай бұрын
Its sad that these expensive and brand new air impacts cant surpass even Dewalt. I think people nowadays get more and more excited about electric and air is for filling up tires
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
The DeWALT made that torque in forward. Not sure what you guys need 1,000 ft-lbs in forward for
@justauser5 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel I need ALL the torque all the time 😏
@firstielasty11625 ай бұрын
Most cordless tools will be in the garbage in 5 yrs, or getting weak. My ir231 from '89 is as good as ever, and used a lot. I finally got another, the Astro Thor, because of the high power. Great deal, I expect it to be around for a long time, also. I think of cordless as almost disposable. Not quite, but the batteries just WILL die.
@slingin_tires5 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Ever had an axle freeze solid to hub splines? It's not super common but it happens. Using an axle pusher or whatever it's called, you can need all the torque you can get. My 900 has done very well for me
@DarKMatter.15 ай бұрын
I freaking love this channel!
@ZetaN75 ай бұрын
I got the exact one for my job. I have dubbed it. The PURPLE NURPLE!
@mooreryu5 ай бұрын
Named my rex Barney. Got it on sale and I am not disappointed!
@roadiez15 ай бұрын
@TTC I'm glad to see you're not ashamed to say anything when your products(you workfor\on) are beaten. But one thing Astro does have a couple things better w\the THOR! Longevity of product testing & a way better price! So to me saving some coin & still having a kick ass impact is way better than the newest,cutest girl down on the corner while charging for it. Might as well get some money before the looks go to crap!😅
@williamhawkins65045 ай бұрын
awesome video and videos, shame i cant get matco tools in australia, i would love to see you guys do more videos "hotrodding" other air impacts to see the numbers change
@Wagonman59005 ай бұрын
I just bought the Matco on Monday, so I had a vested interest. Good to see it put in a good showing.
@noc80765 ай бұрын
Looks like IR has to come out with a special set of sockets with splines to avoid those energy loosing sloppy seconds.
@Drundel5 ай бұрын
Unrelated to this video, but an idea for a new video, show with parts on how you upgraded some of those older air guns with new fins, ported, motors, etc.
@quazy13285 ай бұрын
The spline drive would work better on larger guns like 3/4 to 1 inch. Kind of a waste for IR to put it on a half inch gun. Swapping from a standard anvil to a extended anvil or swapping from 1 inch to 3/4 inch would be nice so I won't have large guns taking up the limited space on my service truck.
@13mmwrench5 ай бұрын
The swapable anvils might be worth a try and if the whole setup is as tough as the old guns it will still hammer away in 15 years. Unlike most cordless guns
@I1S13375 ай бұрын
I bought the 2779 last year a few months before the 3779 came out, I was a little disappointed that had I waited a little I could have got the new one but in the end I still love the 2779. It’s a beast and gets work done, haven’t ever needed more power from it yet.
@aurtisanminer28275 ай бұрын
I have the matco 1/2“ impact from 5 years ago and have been amazed by the power it makes.
@Shawnxsather5 ай бұрын
5:47 “and there’s no way to know this without a skidmore or dyno like ours” Of course there is. Like watching a great channel like TTC. Awesome work boys
@Mountain-Man-30005 ай бұрын
I love the idea of exchangeable anvils. Will save a load of space in the toolbox.
@anzov1n5 ай бұрын
Enjoy seeing versatility innovations like the splined swappable anvil but it seems like it can be tricky to get right. More successful but still a bit reminiscent of the Bosch freak hammer, which was, in its own right, an interesting idea but never seemed to work phenomenally well.
@DaveKootchie5 ай бұрын
So they added a not needed gimmick, less performance, and a higher price? The shareholders will be thrilled! Corporate greed in a nut shell.
@dancearoundtheworld53605 ай бұрын
i wonder how VEVORs 1000ftlbs model compares it was first g.u.n and it likes forward
@Thebassguru845 ай бұрын
Are you oiling the air tools when you use them? I know it sounds dumb but it helps
@larrym81905 ай бұрын
I was looking forward to this review, I planned on getting one. Not so much anymore.
@gavinjones86325 ай бұрын
Got mine in purple as well i love it
@KRich4085 ай бұрын
Battery powered tools have their place, pros convenience, weight, air tools are almost indestructible compared to Battery powered, I've dropped thrown air impacts they never die you can even lower a car lift on them and do no damage at all, a battery impact will get crushed. A air compressor and a little oil maintenance the air tool is like a roach it will survive a nuclear event.
@gregpickett881620 күн бұрын
I have the 3779 Matco in purple. It is an absolute tank of a gun, and I couldn't be more satisfied with it. Use it daily and it has yet to be defeated.
@pkt12135 ай бұрын
Can you swap the 2236 anvil assembly on to the 2235? Or any of your other impacts. I am curious if there's a way to quantify any power loss from the new setup, which I do like.
@kirchbeer23245 ай бұрын
I kind of like that "feature" on the IR. You can keep the gun on high for removal and then when you switch to forward its automatically in low for install. Not sure if that is what they were going for, but could be handy
@hbracerx5 ай бұрын
This video reminded me that I haven't touched my air impacts in years now. The interchangeable anvils are cool but not cool enough to go back to air. I hope they stand the test of time and perhaps find their way to other tools.
@brandonpeebles58074 ай бұрын
Think for the settings it’s a feature for not over torquing fasteners, especially for lug nuts. Full power on reverse to take off but little power tightening. Also big fan!
@allanb32225 ай бұрын
Couldn't click fast enough! Everybody here at the shop bought the T-Rex impact, as soon as it came out. Good to see it can put out some great numbers.
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
Thing is a savage yet feels like a puppy dog
@mydogsnameisbob5 ай бұрын
I love that they give you a ball mark repair tool to insert the anvil.
@AntonioClaudioMichaelАй бұрын
Weird how the extended 3/4 in anvil is making more power on the dyno testing 9:00 @Torque Test Channel
@user-bl2kj9ot4b5 ай бұрын
i’m a plumber in fayetteville nc, i actually have done some drain work for the plant in southern pines, they do a lot of their building right here in nc
@angelo651165125 ай бұрын
Try doing some more air tool testing with 1/2 hose
@CalculatedRiskAKАй бұрын
Honestly, this makes the DCF961 (and DCF964 when it comes along) even scarier.
@PhillyFixed5 ай бұрын
"I want that purple stuff" - Dave Chappelle
@jakehetzel817726 күн бұрын
I'd like to see a comparison of the IR 231c and all the rebadges/knockoffs of it!
@Pheonixco5 ай бұрын
Seems that if they had a reliable way to 'lock in' the splined attachment to keep it from bouncing around at the attachment point, it would probably negate some of that loss. But I imagine that maybe a fair more difficult to keep it reliable and from breaking a the torque levels were seeing now.
@charlieward76065 ай бұрын
they missed the mark on that spline thing, you could put that on a short impact and have stubby socket set that goes straight into the spline, expensive sure but imagine the stubbiness xD
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
I agree, that would be awesome
@johndeerekid1675 ай бұрын
I would be shocked if IR isn't going to release splined sockets for this tool. Missed opportunity. What was even the point?
@Swainj5 ай бұрын
Why did you change air fittings for the two different guns? What brand/ model did you use on them?
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
Air fittings? We've used Milton V on every air tool since the start. As for couplers, we used one of the Italian universal couplers we often have since channel start on the IR as we've been having fitment issues on the red Milton 5 in 1. So we've since ordered the all steel milton 5-in1 couplers hopefully they will last longer. We got the viewer's Matco later during shooting so it has that. Both coupler types have a CFM well in excess of the tool, but we still own the IR so would be happy to show it with the same coupler if people like.
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
The pinned post was updated with a link, FYI
@colterb5 ай бұрын
So I had a matco 2779, and I loved it. I ended up selling it when I bought the 3779 with very high hopes..... after two weeks of being in denial about it sucking, I returned it and purchased another 2779. Another guy in my shop did the same thing.....
@DadDaGoat1232 ай бұрын
Why didn’t you like it?
@colterb2 ай бұрын
@DadDaGoat123 I put the 2779 and the 3779 head to head on equally torqued bolts. The new 3779 took nearly twice the time remove it as the 2779. I recently ordered another 2779 as a back up, because I know it won't let me down.
@SomeGuysGarage5 ай бұрын
I almost picked one of these up when it got released to finally upgrade my 2135 which I've always loved....in light of this testing, I'm going with a solid meh.
@todayonthebench4 ай бұрын
Saw the thumbnail and thought that IR decided to make an impact that forgoes the whole concept of sockets and instead just fits onto the nut by itself. Would be interesting, all though inconvenient to have one impact for each nut size needed, but if torque is all one cares about that would be an interesting take. (I have no clue if that would actually be an improvement or not.) The idea of using a spline seems interesting as well. Perhaps they start selling sockets with a spine later on, who knows.
@justinv30805 ай бұрын
Maybe some thicker grease could help tighten the gap between the splines and transfer more torque?
@yamboy6665 ай бұрын
Ive been using the astro thor v2 since you guys announced it, pretty happy with it overall. My only complaint so far is just the forward/reverse, I wish it was more like an IR. Sometimes I hit it on accident, might be a me issue though lol
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
The IR style fwd rev switch can't be beat in ease of use. Maybe cordless but that's it
@ihatejoze5 ай бұрын
My 2235 has an Aircat anvil in it and it spins way more RPM’s than before
@zachariclark5 ай бұрын
They should use wire EDM to cut the splines and anvils. The fit would be perfect. Probably about a close to lossless power transfer as I can imagine.
@electroluxlad5 ай бұрын
I only know Ingersoll rand for the club car side of things grew up around fixing golf carts. So I’m interested in the air tools now
@angeldelvax72195 ай бұрын
The IR IMHO might benefit from a slight change in exchangeable anvil design. If the splines were slightly wedge shaped, and the "click" system was more akin to a bayonet or chuck fastener, it would likely fit more snugly, and lose less energy. But that's just from personal experience with spline systems, I'm by no means an expert.
@Dr_Petey_WheatstrawАй бұрын
Instead of a set screw they should figure out how to make a drawbolt design to retain the spline. Having preload exceed the impact force would be reasonable and really improve the impact transfer.
@AntonioClaudioMichaelАй бұрын
Wow that Ingersoll Rand 2236 speed 1 setting is high and speed 3 setting is low that is strange 4:48 @Torque Test Channel
@nightowl21425 ай бұрын
5:08 The RPM is higher in reverse or CCW when the power regulator is in the low output setting because of how the regulator works. When the tool is in the tightening direction (CW), the regulator bleeds air from the pressurized chamber driving the motor. This bleed air is dumped into the housing of the tool with the exhaust air. When the tool is in reverse (CCW), the chamber that used to be pressurized in CW is now an exhaust outlet for the air motor. With the regulator in the low position (largest leak) it gives the tool a performance boost because the exhaust is more free flowing due to the additional leak.
@patrick1885 ай бұрын
Yes, it's called secondary exhaust which is required in reversible air motors.
@user-ve3fz3bm7z5 ай бұрын
interesting, always thought the power regulator restricts the inlet
@patrick1885 ай бұрын
That is how it works on most other impacts. When the first push button impact was developed this approach was used to maintain speed while reducing performance. One of the 7 patents on the original design. @@user-ve3fz3bm7z
@Flatlander_2k55 ай бұрын
Really wish someone would loan y’all some Paoli air guns to test. The price would destroy their score, but those things are insane.
@bighorn91195 ай бұрын
Matco and Ingersoll Rand for the professionals
@lossless41295 ай бұрын
Mannnn I want to see you get your hands on a Paoli hurricane 2!
@A-DUBCLUB5 ай бұрын
So maybe IR went the route of making a useful tool with swappable bits instead of focusing on just means and beans. They already got decent power so they went innovative how to make the tool more useful rather than just focus on tightening and breaking power. Introducing spline centre with a pin with lots of attachment bits. Sounds like a new sku range to me
@zephyr11825 ай бұрын
I haven’t been able to find anyone testing the skil 12v impact wrench in any way, so you think you guys could try that at some point? The mid torque and 3/8 20v would be nice too if you could get to it. Keep it up with the great videos!
@zephyr11825 ай бұрын
Also maybe the ratchet, I have a somewhat unrealistic hope that they might release some more variety in the automotive field if you guys test their stuff.
@LouisKleiman5 ай бұрын
"No way to know"? You can hear it!
@HaveFunBikes5 ай бұрын
Lets just take a moment do admire the Dewalt just carrying everything to get that torque, instead of needing some long air hose.
@SteampunkDream5 ай бұрын
I really want to see you do the kobalt 1/2 and 3/8 in air impacts. I have had my half inch that is rated for 750 ft lb for 6 years I use it everyday at work and has outlasted both my Matco 1/2 impacts. Also you can use matco parts in them as well.My 3/8 has a matco anvil in it.
@daveunderwoodjr6825 ай бұрын
figured the changeable anvils was a bad idea. Glad I didn’t get it when I had the chance lol
@RC-fu6hg5 ай бұрын
You should try the non QTI tool since QTI means quiet. Which means a different exhaust material is used to stifle sound and that changes the power of the tool because of the slight restriction in air flow at pressure
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
There is no non Q of the new 2336
@TechnicallyRy5 ай бұрын
Just checking up from the ball joint press video from about 2 years ago, since I haven't seen anything on snap on for their BJP1 kit I was wondering how it compares to kits from astro and such. Great video with the high speed footage for the attachement details!
@MetallicPhantom5125 ай бұрын
The Matco might have the same regulator defect as the IR. Guy in my shop has the earlier Matco and in reverse it's RPMs are faster on "low".
@junkyota5 ай бұрын
Ive been wondering about that IR for a while, went how i figured. Make a video testing impact gun mufflers and their effect on performance!
@AntonioClaudioMichaelАй бұрын
Impressed the purple matc9 passing the dewalt wow almost 900 ft pounds yikes 13:00 @Torque Test Channel
@justinvos95745 ай бұрын
You should test the new matco rex stubby impact im very curious about it and how it compares to other brands and its old self
@xXBurntBaconXxКүн бұрын
I wonder if the Matco internals will fit inside other impact guns, like the Old 2235TiMAX.
@mishkaulitkin94765 ай бұрын
Hi TTC! As far as I remember, "IR" was designing and engineering their composite impact guns to give maximum torque after about 20-30 seconds of work with anvil being stationary (extremely high torque required scenario). At least mine was and still is like that. Please try cranking it a little longer. Thanks.
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
IR's own testing practices developed with SIOUX tools & Skidmore Wilhelm that standardized this sort of thing doesn't go beyond 10 seconds.
@TrackstarBR5 ай бұрын
Looks like I’ll just buy an old ir impact. The 2235 just seems better. Either the old 2235 or I’ll go with matco or aircat. Also can you test the matco raptor?
@TorqueTestChannel5 ай бұрын
The 2235 is awesome
@torquemada67815 ай бұрын
more torque because of longer extension, maybe you twist the steel and this acts like an amplifier.
@slingin_tires5 ай бұрын
The Rex has proven very strong for me; however I've still had to break out my DCF961 several times. But I can't complain, they're about the best of both worlds! 💯 Air for speed, cordless for max torque
@tylerswain71035 ай бұрын
TTC I’ve got a request for you, I would love to see if you can’t up the RPM speed on the Thor gun via new iteration of your previous chainsaw massacre! It would just be interesting to see if you could operate a airgun using the chainsaw!
@KRIL895 ай бұрын
Looking forward to you testing the 3/4 Ridgid Impact. It seems to have "the beans"
@Carelock5 ай бұрын
I have the Rex, it has been an absolute beast in our shop.