Oh interesting!! I haven’t seen that one yet but will have to keep an eye out ☺️

I just bought this! Am going to try it tomorrow, currently cycling through Numbuzin and Anua but the Torriden seems interesting too.

Shouldn't "easy spreading" only be a problem with mineral sunscreens? Every chemical one I've tried was easy to...maneuver, i.e. work with. I'm a bit confused, but that may well be only my problem....🤷🏻‍♀️

@@heidihinds7207so how’s it been? I’ve been using the beauty of joseon sunscreen for two years now and was curious to try a different one. How’ve you been liking it?

Is this the one that claims to provide 24 hour sun protection? I’ve been keen to try it out

It’s so true, serums with a dropper take more time to use!! I love that this is squeeze and go lol

I felt that way about the Jumiso Waterfull line...I couldn't understand why everyone raved about a HA line. Then I tried it and realized why😂

Try it! It's worth it. One of my favourite new products this year. I feel like it has improved my barrier. My skin has become less dry and sensitive over time.

Glad to help! 😁

That was me a few weeks ago 😂 just in time for all the EOFY sales

Oh my goodness so soon, and so exciting!!! 🤩🤩 (I am 100% living your excitement vicariously in this exact moment lol!!) Seriously though, the access to everything, the beautiful country, the people, the music - eeeh! Have fun!!

Happy to help! ☺️

There really are! That said, our skin can only utilize so much at a time, so I’d say: it’s possible you might not need to add something new? (That’s a good sign: means you’ve found the right products 😃) I am working on the annual top 10 though - fingers crossed for Monday 😁

@@AliceintheRabbitHole I think it's peptides I need all bases loaded at my age . I cant go back to DNA repair it's so expensive . Growth factors are a no due to skin cancer .

Happy to help 😃

Yeah that makes SO much sense. My chogongjin products arrived today and I absolutely feel that their essence is what we would call a serum. But yep, K-Beauty is global now (and we are all glad for it 😁)

YUP lol!

Just ordered this serum, so I'm happy to hear this!! Hoping to revitalize my tired, dull looking skin to make it look plump and radiant 😊 That's been a struggle during these winter months even more.

That’s such a good point, and tbh I think it explains the Korean cleanser preferences too. Thanks for sharing!

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I feel you on that. I wish more K-Beauty brands did samples/minis to help those of us with more sensitive skin!

Yep exactly, I guess HA has appeal for a wider audience, but this really is a line that skincare enthusiasts can love as well (confirming at least one of them 🙋‍♀️🤣)

Agreed! I’ll never go back to applying on dry skin lol

I am very interested in seeing if they expand the solid in line. I’m thinking they will

Yesss omg same for me!! Kopari has a lovely cleanser like that, as well as Tula (with salicylic acid). They’re a joy to use and not too drying!

Excellent to hear! 😁 Did you get Dive in or Balanceful?

I got the solid in moisturizer... 🥰 However, I bought the trial version of Dive in kit to help with water loss as well and am waiting for it to arrive...

lol!

She saw the great gowns, she commented on it 😌 Understated is such a good word to describe Torriden. I feel like these products proved themselves even though they aren’t flashy, they aren’t making huge claims…but oh how I saw what they do!

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The cream also has citrus peel, I’m also wondering the same thing 🤷‍♀️

Essential oils and extracts are related but also quite different. Think of an essential oil as a very concentrated form of a plant, and an extract as a very diluted form of a plant (generally although potency can vary) So it is very true that those with allergies still need to be wary of those ingredients. However, more people will be able to use extracts. Hope that helps!

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you should ALWAYS doubble-check ingredients yourself! As someone who is very sensitive to fragrance i have NEVER seen anyone who consistently picked up on it, when there is fragrance in a product (maybe it's a diffent story if someone is equally averse to an ingredient, but i would still check since formulas change etc)

Oh goodness thank you so much for catching this! I’ll make a note in the description right now 😨

I felt the same way about Jumiso Waterfull line... Not really interested, then I tried and and realized why it was so well loved! Looking forward to trying Torriden!! Sorry if I commented this somewhere else, I'm sick and thought I had commented but think I fell asleep mid commenting lol

Oh no, is it the dreadful summer cold? 😔 I hope you feel better!!

@@AliceintheRabbitHole THANK YOU! I guess, it's a mixture of it all, I thought I had the cold a couple weeks ago but this is kind of a mixture of everything knocking me on my butt when I have SO MUCH TO DO😣

Right, it’s frustrating when our bodies are feeling rough, but our brain is going, “hey!! There isn’t time for this!!!”

I think ot would depend on what product you want to aplly first. If it's a low ph toner i don't see a problem but you should always apply ascorbic acid serums to dry skin to avoid incresing the ph of the product (ascorbic acid needs a low ph to work and does not super well which is why it is often recommended you start with it) I checked up on facetheory and it uses one of the vitamin c derivatives: , 3-O-Ethyl Ascorbic Acid. Which is not ph dependent (alice made a video about vitamin c and the derivatives if you are curious) Because is an oil- and watersoluble derivative so as long as you don't use something heavier on top like a creamy milky essence/toner or moisturizer i think it should have a good chance of absorbing. Also if you dislike the greasiness but like the product you could try asking on r/asianbeauty or r/skincareaddiction for a lightweight oily skin friendly vitamin c serum that uses , '3-O-Ethyl Ascorbic Acid'. Hope that helps 😁 I would also like a video about what order alice uses products in though. And what order she would use products in f you aren't sensitive to actives. (like if you want an am pm routine where you just use all your actives and you don't need to cycle from day to day between brigtening restoring etc. Do you use chemical exfoliant in the morning with vitamin c or at night before retenoid? 🤷‍♀️)

I wrote that the derivatives is not ph depending it is and works best between a ph of 5-6.5. What i meant was it doesnt require a super low ph like ascorbic acid so it is easier to layer.

@@misskiwi5460 THanks for your kind response, but i'm confused are you saying that ascorbic acid should be applied to a low ph surface? Isn't dry skin around 5.5 ph?

@@janesmitson7404 no that's not what i meant, i think i phrased it in a confusing way. The serums containing ascorbic acid most frequently have a low ph to ensure they penetrate well. However when you apply it ontop of another product lets say a cica serum that has not had time to absorb yet, you are essentially mixing the cica serum and the ascorbic acid serum. Since the cica serum doesnt need a low ph to work it likely has a higher ph than the ascorbic acid serum. This means you are essentially mixing a lower ph serum with a higher one and thus increasing the ph of the ascorbic acid mixture. So best practice with ascorbic acid is to use early in a routine since it penetrates poorly and allowing it to absorb before applying your next step. Likewise if you add a toner before the ascorbic acid serum you should let it fully dry down first. Just to be clear the one you use is not ascorbic acid but a derivative so you are more free to do what you like. Also if the ascorbic acid serum somehow gets mixed with another product on your skin it's not like it's ruined it will just likely be less affective which might be good if you are more sensitive and are trying to incorporate it into your routine etc. Skincare is hugely trial and error and mostly rule of thumbs. There aren't really a lot of super strict rules for the most part. However a rule for vitamin c: don't mix benzoyl peroxide and vitamin c they make eachother ineffective. Vitamin c is an anti-oxidant and benzoyl perodxide works by oxidizing and killing acne bacteria so they work against eachother (if you want both types of product then use in different routines like vit c in the morning and benzoyl peroxide at night. Not sure how it is if the benzoyl peroxide is a cleanser instead of a leave-on though. I can't use benzoyl peroxide so i forgot) I hope i didn't overwhelm you. For your product just use it before you start using creamy products. Go from lightweight to heavy with skincare and just try a different order if you don't like your current one. If your result are worse then change back. You can also visit r/skincareaddiction they can usually help troubleshoot a routine if it doesnt do what you want it to or you are unsure about the order. Just keep in mind some of the redfitors know alot about skincare and some are just starting out. (the once that have the least nuanced opinions are usually the ones that somewhat recently got into skincare).

@@misskiwi5460 Thank You!! for taking the time to explain to me regarding the ph of products. I really appreciate the time you took to reply and explain. I try to take time between layers to let the products absorb, and then I read it's best to apply products on slightly damp skin for penetration. It usually feels slightly moist from the products even if I wait for products to absorb and even though my skin is on the dry side, I often don't use moisturizer if I'm using a cream based sunscreen. and it I use the Dr. Ceuracle Kombucha Tea Essence it's so wonderful and moisturizing I often feel I don't need a moisturizer. But at night I wear a good one and often apply an occlusive on top. So since my current vit. c serum is with Ethyl Ascorbic Acid and is on the oily side, I can apply after my Benton Fermentation essence which is like water. This is the first time I'm not using an Ascorbic Acid C, so we'll see. I also keep it in the fridge but don't know if that's really necessary. Thanks so much again for all you help.

I still haven’t tried it, but I do hear good things!

@@AliceintheRabbitHole I love their 360 cream, it's a little pricey though. If you get around to ordering it, I'd be interested to know your thoughts! 💜

I’ve still never tried tret, but I can confirm that the cream works fantastically over adapalene! 😃

Ooh tough call. I much prefer the dive in serum to the hyalu cica serums! But the moisturizers could go either way (as I tend to prefer heavier moisturizers personally)

You’re right! I’m probably going to add that to a future KB order. I have a feeling I’ll like it!

@@AliceintheRabbitHole. Bet

YES, those two are everywhere. I just can’t imagine seeking out a niacinamide or HA serum. Thankfully Torriden was one step ahead of me in that sense LOL!

But there are people who seek out separate products for both even when they've been told they're already in a gazillion products including hair. People want what they want.

@@db-gb5xi agreed! Because I really started to reap the benefits with niacinamide when I bought a 5% serum! Which is actually the sweet spot for acne 2% is good for evening the skin tone. It’s usually 2% or less in most moisturizers. To each their own!

That is a good point. I can also see those ingredients being more exciting for folks with much less skin issues than myself (I’m over here juggling adapalene, BPO, and SAP lol, HA is just not that high on my own list 😅)

It shouldn’t, no. Purging *can* happen a result of ingredients that increase skin’s turnover rate (which this does not contain)

🙈🤣 Yep, they have 40% off on Torriden AND 15% off no minimum with code SCHOOL15!

@@AliceintheRabbitHole I’m trying the skin 1004 SPF because it was on sale for like $10. And I also decided to pick up the numbuzin (spelling?) number 3 I believe. I think it’s the essence. Along with a couple of some by mi products because they were a great deal as well. I took everyone’s advice from one of your videos in the past where I was commenting on the TERRIBLE shipping issues with Stylevana and spent the extra money for expedited shipping with YesStyle. I only placed my order two days ago and it’s already on its way. 🎉

Imma tell you honestly: once you start placing those $109 orders on yesstyle (before the discounts - $90 after!), it’s hard to go back to the Vana way of shipping 😅 Oh and absolutely make sure to leave picture reviews for the extra points. I always roll my yesstyle points, so my express ship orders end up being closer to $80. And then yep, 3-4 days later, there’s my package!

@@AliceintheRabbitHole that was actually what I did this time! I pushed it and ended up getting just enough to do free expedited shipping. And I got like eight items, everything came out to approximately $12 apiece. You really can’t beat that. Oh, I was also going to tell you I tried the bubble vitamin C serum on your recommendation, and so far I love it! I know it’s not the most potent form of vitamin C, but I love that it’s stabilized and I don’t have to put it in the refrigerator. I’ve moved on past my skin care fridge obsession, and it’s more of an annoyance now than anything. 😂

Ah so happy to hear!! Yes I love how easy that one is to use (and for my acne-prone skin type, I’ve realized it’s one of the most beneficial products for that in my entire routine 🤯)

Bahaha perfect 💯

Aww sorry to hear. PayPal really is the way to go, it’s surprising to me that it’s not as popular anymore. They always fix disputes, and quickly!

I had issues with Stylevana too! I just placed my first order with YesStyle and I’m hoping for a better results 😅🤞🏻

@@Hiiiiiiiiieeee it's v annoying