Tory MP defects to Labour, woke civil servants and arms sales to Israel

Tory MP defects to Labour, woke civil servants and arms sales to Israel | PoliticsJOE reacts to PMQs

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Ай бұрын

Today we're reacting to Keir Starmer's decision to allow Tory right-winger Natalie Elphicke a seat on the opposition benches.
Then we get into the meat and spuds of today's PMQs, where Rishi Sunak quite possibly delivered the worst attempt at a joke by a Prime Minister, ever.
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@PoliticsJOE 29 күн бұрын

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@NeonVisual Ай бұрын

NET ZERO TORIES BY 2030!

@tobypettit6417 Ай бұрын

At the current rate of one a week, to get through the remaining 344 it would take 6.6 years. Bringing us to December 2030. Not sure if you did the maths first but it adds up 😂😂

@shhsjjbbjs4224 Ай бұрын

@@tobypettit6417net zero tories by 2030 would surely mean the current amount? net refers to the change so if there’s 0 change then…

@shhsjjbbjs4224 Ай бұрын

@@tobypettit6417what we want is just zero lmao

@tw1sted1nc Ай бұрын

This is becoming one of my favourite UK politics podcasts primarily because it has taken enshittification as a roadmap and gone off-road with it. What else should one do when the political landscape is best traversed in a clown car? Keep up the good work folks.

@benjones3466 Ай бұрын

+1 for riding the enshittification train. It's all we've got left at this point. Might as well enjoy it.

@enemystand2981 Ай бұрын

@@benjones3466it’s the clown card quip that got me personally lmao

@dkerr200 29 күн бұрын

At least they turn up to the circus honest enough to wear the face paint.

@getgaymin 15 күн бұрын

same (spoken as an American listening to this to try to make myself feel better about our Radioactive Tank Firing Bazookas Indiscrimately in Every Direction approach to politics)

@tomtom-gi9eo Ай бұрын

I respect Ava for saying i dont feel qualified to answer that.

@snowbind Ай бұрын

I liked the bit where Rishi didn't answer any questions.

@aidanbyrne8267 Ай бұрын

Sorry, which PMQ's you referring to? There's about 50 to choose from...

@enemystand2981 Ай бұрын

@@aidanbyrne8267I wonder if anyone has been keeping track of how many questions he’s actually answered. I appreciate there’s a slightly subjective/partial extent on which he answered but iv seen almost every PMQ’s since he’s started and it feels like the number is like 10

@GoldnDusty Ай бұрын

To answer Oli's fingerprint question - a healthy layer of dermis needs to be removed, but you cannot permanently remove fingerprints. Not least, the trick only works for pre- and post-accident. If you burn them, thereafter, your fingerprint profile just looks odd. In fact, it probably makes you statistically more identifiable as the idea that your fingerprint is unique is a myth - your fingerprint is unique *enough* to be a decent forensic tool, but suffers in the face of other DNA forensic tools. Look up the case of Brandon Mayfield for more on this. Also, to further expand - we don't just have fingerprints - we have the same pads on our feet, as do most primates. They're useful, because the increased surface area caused by folds of skin equal more friction - so great for gripping things, like branches - as well as the fact that our palms are *excellent* heat sensors. Fingerprints also form as a combo of genetics and environmental factors in the womb, we think. Anyway, that's all I've got on fingerprints.

@sempressfi Ай бұрын

Thank you, commented to answer on the function of our fingers having that pattern of skin growth but wasn't sure on the less biological/medical and more forensic aspect of how long lol def agree it makes you more identifiable but only if they're looking i suppose

@philvincent5660 29 күн бұрын

Play guitar for six months. No fingerprints on left hand .

@MartinMc90 29 күн бұрын

MPs defecting from Tory to Labour just shows me how identical they are. How easily they accept each other. They are supposed to be opposites..

@TSINIproductions 28 күн бұрын

Fully opposites? On every topic? Are you sure?

@diabl2master 29 күн бұрын

Rishi Sunak implying he's a straight talker is the funniest thing he's every said

@dkerr200 29 күн бұрын

If Labour acquire Tory politicians and Tory polices we are just changing the blue rosettes to red and redecorating number 10 again.

@nicksimmons7234 27 күн бұрын

Grow up.

@dkerr200 27 күн бұрын

@@nicksimmons7234 no you.

@nicksimmons7234 27 күн бұрын

@@dkerr200 I guess you're going to be so upset when you lose the current Tory government.

@dkerr200 27 күн бұрын

Who the fuck whats this channel and votes Tory. You must be either a bot or so dumb the army wouldn’t let you in.

@archvaldor 27 күн бұрын

@@nicksimmons7234 I think it is you who needs to grow up. No one but a child cares who is running the country if the same policies are in place. It takes an especially underdeveloped childlike mind to focus on the colour of the governing party exclusively.

@jeff__w Ай бұрын

32:43 *AVA SANTINA:* “Probably because that's where you find your fingers-it's on the hand.” I just want to acknowledge how consistently hilarious Ava is in every podcast. Oli asks if there are “any bits of housekeeping” no fewer than three times in four minutes and, as the podcast slowly dribbles to a close, he finally gets around to asking, “Want to finish the record?” 1:07:19 and Ava says, with a quiet sort of resignation, “We could have finished it a while ago but there we are.” Quite true.

@sfshinz 29 күн бұрын

Ed got a bit of his own back: Ava, “I’m actually a physical chair.” Ed, “What are you doing?” Oli, “Who’ll be sitting on you?” Ava, “Well…” Ed, “One lucky winner!”

@seasonmists Ай бұрын

Rishi sunak literally values life differently depending on the ideology and political systems of different peoples. He assumes Palestinian lives are worthless.

@Stoddardian 26 күн бұрын

Based!

@lachlandunn2137 Ай бұрын

Rishi is right, there is no comparison between Hamas and Israel. Israel are demonstrably worse.

@EdJames-tb9oz Ай бұрын

The prime miniture was wrong and mislead the House yet again. What Khan said was that he could condemn both the Hamas in 7th October attacks and the IDF subsequent abuses as wrong. You can find two horrific things to be bad strangely enough.

@graemesloan5523 Ай бұрын

St.Peters in Rome has the sizes of other Cathedrals marked on the floor showing it is bigger than all the rest.

@julianshepherd2038 Ай бұрын

It's what Jesus would want

@GrowYourOwnLife Ай бұрын

Sadly, it's hard to disagree with Olie on the chance Farage could be PM if Starmer doesn't deliver. The warning signs are there. The country's at a fork in the road. As is the planet.

@nathanielratcliff7456 29 күн бұрын

I think Labour will have such a massive majority they could easily survive in to a second term

@tomellis2419 29 күн бұрын

@@nathanielratcliff7456 the problem is that if they don't change people's lives then who else is left to turn to but the fascists since the left has been effectively wiped out as an electoral force

@RocketGameCorner. 28 күн бұрын

@@nathanielratcliff7456 The concern is they'll be a fickle majority. A lot of the swing votes will be anti-tory, as opposed to pro-labour; expecting those voters to maintain that sentiment after five years of labour (probably delivering more of the same, it would seem) and vote them in again is a big ask. Shame it's probably what's needed to give labour some actual room to maneuver.

@michaelantonrouse 29 күн бұрын

In the studio where the mics are hot, Three jesters sit, stirring the political pot. Oli, Ava, and Ed, a trio so keen, Dissecting the news with a satirical sheen. Oli Dugmore, with a quip so slick, Cuts through the spin, double-quick. Ava Santina, with insight so bright, Shines a light on the left and the right. And Ed Campbell, with a chuckle so deep, Finds the humour in politics, never cheap. Together they stand, the holy trinity, Of podcasting fame, with no hint of timidity. Likes, dislikes, they've got a few, From absurd policies to a political coup. But one thing's for sure, they love the jest, In a world of chaos, they're simply the best.

@rickreads4674 29 күн бұрын

Jeremy Corbyn's Labour cared about an economy that worked for people...

@Bjcf8060 29 күн бұрын

Ed sweetly saying "we've got KZfaq money" made me laugh and made my day, for some reason.

@localshaman Ай бұрын

Labour is a broad church of center and far right politicians

@callum9999 Ай бұрын

It's interesting to see the kind of people Labour are courting and the kind of people Labour are expelling or suppressing...

@davidthom1 Ай бұрын

Speaking of Cathedrals, found out the other day several of them in the UK have their own police forces. knowledge.

@jackoh991 29 күн бұрын

Wtf

@bigpoppawill7361 Ай бұрын

ah yes sunni and shia, my favourite 60s muslim pop duo

@rastalionofficial Ай бұрын

Ollie's paint jokes went over everyone's head and it's not okay

@ehuremovic526 29 күн бұрын

No paint, no gain.

@tobypettit6417 Ай бұрын

If you add the pretty radically right Tories, and the definitely radical right Reform ‘Party’, then there is a huge radical right vote in this country

@RenegadeMaster137 Ай бұрын

True, although a lot of the Tory vote is basically inertia. An ingrained habit of voting Tory by people who don’t actually pay much attention. & generationally that radical right vote shrinks every year

@Hill_Walker Ай бұрын

HPV is strongly linked to increased risk of testicular, throat and mouth cancers for unvaccinated men.

@jackoh991 29 күн бұрын

Why will they vaccinate men of any age but not women?

@tyler6539 29 күн бұрын

We do vaccinate all girls in school as part of routine immunisations, which is why cervical cancer rates have plummeted as well as robust cervical screening programme

@jackoh991 29 күн бұрын

@@tyler6539 notice I said women not girls

@tyler6539 29 күн бұрын

@jackoh991 apologies! To answer your question, HPV is very common so it is likely by mid-twenties it is very likely that a woman has already been exposed to the HPV strains that can cause cervical cancer, and so immunisation would have no further effect Basically there isn't much benefit to vaccinating in that age-group Source: I'm an incoming junior doctor and had recent rotation in obstetrics and gynaecology

@jackoh991 29 күн бұрын

@@tyler6539 thanks. How come that's different from men please?

@MrStanBowles 29 күн бұрын

WHAT IS THE STARBURST LEGEND!????

@tyler6539 Ай бұрын

Prepare for chaos. This is what we live for

@albertbrammer9263 Ай бұрын

St. Peter's Basilica in Rome is the world's largest church. The largest in terms of congregation is in South Korea.

@21pm 29 күн бұрын

Steven Flynn - he makes me want to move to Scotland and vote independence every time he askes a question.

@IMelkor42 29 күн бұрын

The International Rules Based Order: 'When people we don't like do it, it's bad' 'When people we like do it, it's good'

@jackoh991 29 күн бұрын

I thankfully never heard the starburst story I am not going to Google it

@MrDanJB85 29 күн бұрын

This prompted me to look up Oli's old Tab article on the Welsh language. Its a piece that brings the same seriousness, attentiveness, depth of knowledge and astute insights that Oli has brought to Joe's coverage of Welsh politics: that is to say none at all. The irony of a London based person pointing to the 'self gratifying [admiration] of Celtic history' is almost too much to bare. I submit that the current state of the Welsh language, and the discourse around it, has rather more to do with over a hundred years' of English history: with policies set in Westminster designed to bring about the language's demise. I don't doubt that, like Oli, those policy makers believed that the interests of Welsh people would be best served by adopting the English language and culture. After all, what cultural value could 'the senior language of the men of Britain' have compared with language of Shakespeare, or Milton? Its a minor example of an anglo-centric world view that has in no way aged badly. Whether investing resources into the Welsh language is good value, is a point upon which reasonable minds may differ (as it is with any culture funding). Regardless, it seems disingenuous to discuss our response to the fact that Welsh is endangered, without any mention of how that came to be so. It is a shame that Mr Dugmore did not make use of either his time at Cardiff university, or the occasion of writing on this topic to do any reading or thinking on the subject. Of course, when you can vomit out some unnecessarily acerbic nonsense and call it journalism, I suppose knowing things is redundant.

@matthewgregory7898 29 күн бұрын

Bless that MP...... calling the BBC left wing or impartial.......😂

@andrewnbrown 29 күн бұрын

Philip Davies is my MP in Shipley, West Yorkshire. He is a despicable individual.

@dh1380 Ай бұрын

Methinks this is gonna cost a decent amount of progressive votes, if Labour still had any

@Boghopper9999 Ай бұрын

I'm progressive and also able to understand politics; I will use my head and vote tactically in support of progressive parties because I'm not willing to let the perfect be the enemy of the good and hand the Tory's 5 more years

@callum9999 Ай бұрын

@@Boghopper9999How do you define "progressive"? The incessant line of people patronisingly describing the current Labour party as "not perfection" are either delusional, don't know what the word progressive means or are deliberately grossly misrepresenting it (funny that, when politicians do the same people are generally up in arms...). I don't speak on behalf of all progressives obviously, but the current iteration of Labour are mimicking the Conservatives to such a degree that I'm almost indifferent whether Labour or the Conservatives win. I certainly don't think it's worth abandoning my principles to prevent a Conservative victory - people like yourself say this every single election and it's exactly why we only have two main parties.

@rainbowevil Ай бұрын

@@Boghopper9999 there is very little progressive left about the Labour Party - they keep doing everything they can to purge that aspect. Open your eyes. Tories are never going to win anyway, so vote for something actually left of centre.

@Dylan-co2cl Ай бұрын

when a tory defects to Starmer's party, it tells you that there is no effing difference between the two parties,both Tory.

@Boghopper9999 Ай бұрын

Don't be ridiculous; allowing 1 person to join a team of about 300 does not change the nature of the party; its politics and Labour got a free hit on Sunak today

@mrD66M Ай бұрын

So does that mean Labour is Reform now?

@Dylan-co2cl Ай бұрын

@@Boghopper9999 Bollocks!

@iamrocketray 29 күн бұрын

The fact she is a right leaning Tory and Starmer say's she's a good fit for Labour shows just how far Labour has lurched to the right. Starmer(SIR) is the worst thing to happen to Labour since Blair!

@tazzyzig8162 29 күн бұрын

they are all on the right both parties, for the twits who know nothing answering you, you only need to look at each mps voting record. There are but a handfull of true left progressives the rest are uniparty bnought and paid for just like in the states. the uk is truley doomed to rinse and repeat. Our only hope is the youth and i dont hold out much hope for them.

@ths4125 29 күн бұрын

Finding myself at work during awkward silences wanting to say '....should we roll the clip...'

@michaelantonrouse 29 күн бұрын

In the Commons where the MPs play, A Tory defector caused quite the fray. Crossed the floor with a step so bold, To Labour's side, from blue to red he strolled. Woke civil servants, oh what a term, In Whitehall's halls, they stand firm. Diversity's their game, inclusion their aim, In the bureaucratic maze, they stake their claim. And then to Israel, where arms deals flow, A topic so grave, it steals the show. But in satire's light, we take a jab, At politics' dance, and the gift of the gab. So PoliticsJOE with a chuckle and a wink, Unpacks the news, faster than you can blink. With a comedic twist on the PMQs, They serve up the satire for all to muse. In a time when 3s are sometimes better than 2s .

@ericcorry1199 29 күн бұрын

It must be clarified If someone decides to walk over to the other Political Party in the commons Then that person should automatically be deselected from the Party How than can she/they have a seat in the Commons if not been selected or representing that original area any longer

@matthewmcneany Ай бұрын

I feel like we're getting to the culmination of Oli Dugmore's anarchist arc. Get that man a copy of the bread book, stat.

@sfshinz Ай бұрын

I’m looking at Alcatraz right now: people, under closely supervised circumstances, swim en masse from Alcatraz every year (several of my friends and coworkers have done it). It would be a horrible and almost invariably fatal thing to do under prison escape conditions, particularly after months of prison meals.

@Stoddardian 26 күн бұрын

Physiognomy really is spot-on.

@IndaloMan Ай бұрын

Ed is using Oli's mic today. When it is used by Ed you cannot see the cable because we see it head on, but Ed is at an angle to us so the cable and plug are visible. I would get out more but..... p94 etc

@sempressfi Ай бұрын

Fingerprints are there for gripping 😂😂

@IMelkor42 29 күн бұрын

They're there for paint to stick to

@tomtom-gi9eo Ай бұрын

Wow nutsack had the nuts to say Isreal was a democratic state, not an apartheid state...

@JamesLee-do7yq Ай бұрын

My mates finger exploded by being between a swift drag flick and a hockey stick, his fingerprint now looks like a cartoon of an explosion

@tronnyjeverton Ай бұрын

Just Googled the Starbust story. Cripes.

@jim-es8qk Ай бұрын

He's ditched the nutty left and muslim vote and gone full throttle after the middle England Brexiteer vote. The man is playing a very good game of politics.

@julianshepherd2038 Ай бұрын

Middle England hasn't been Brexit for a while now

@EdJames-tb9oz Ай бұрын

The areas where Labour did worse were not the larger Muslim population areas. They took a slight hit there but it was not major. Hardly lost a entire religious persuasions vote. It is quite discriminatory to assume they vote as a unthinking block.

@heatherthompson505 29 күн бұрын

I don’t know the starburst story 🤷🏽‍♀️

@stevepritchard2756 Ай бұрын

I used to watch PMQ religiously (no puns about religion), but it's just a show nothing more. I do watch a couple of reviews of PMQ and like yours it breaks down q&a without all the rabble shouting and deranged faces.

@ReedoTV 29 күн бұрын

Fingerprints are for HD touch. You can feel textures more precisely.

@KIAKAHABENJI 29 күн бұрын

Note, Derbyshire (as part of East Midlands) just elected a Labour Mayor and threw out the Tory PCC

@Somecrippledboy5 23 күн бұрын

The bizarre moment is Sunak claiming that private industries are able to export weapons of war without explicit permission from the UK government is giving both false legal advise and dangerous rhetoric as anyone who wishes to provide weapons to any party can now point at the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom as a legitimate argument that they should be allowed as "the UK government doesn't directly provide arms or ship arms .....[to Isreal].... And when it comes to the situation in Rafa. and so on. He hopes we forget about the pictures he take with Zelensky whenever a convenient photo-op arises anytime the UK promises aid to Ukraine, I am not for 1 moment suggesting we should not provide aid to allies but if Ukraine were to use storm shadow missiles to exclusivity target Russian civilians we certainly would not be providing more and more as the conflict proceeded

@mongoliandude 29 күн бұрын

Quick clarification: lsræI is not a democratic state in that Palestinian’s with lsræIi citizenship are de facto second class citizens in lsræI.

@MxHolloway_ Ай бұрын

Such a refined intro. classy.

@michaelantonrouse 29 күн бұрын

ive been listening a while but getting more good vibes

@JackHGUK Ай бұрын

Had the same sex ed as Olly, we also didn't understand the need for the close up

@tomtom-gi9eo Ай бұрын

Labour is very welcoming to Tories. Do you get it yet?

@Fishstickification Ай бұрын

Poor Ollie’s excellent paint puns whooshing over Ava & Ed’s heads 😓

@markbeecroft-stretton3314 29 күн бұрын

Nice work by Ava-Santina (or Ava Santiago as Ed called her on the Podcast!) on GMB this morning; good luck in your application to the Garrick!

@jessery475 Ай бұрын

here for the limmy quote

@SamUploads420 28 күн бұрын

Oli was rather emulsional today

@richardbarrow7449 29 күн бұрын

This line from Red Dwarf usually comes to mind whenever I watch pmq’s Kryten : That was an important speech, sir, and it needed to be made. Might I suggest, however, that the rest of this discourse is continued by those with brains larger than a grape?

@stevereber3358 28 күн бұрын

You can erase fingerprints with pineapple juice and I think it lasts a couple weeks, I think they grow back either way. the other option is permanent scarring. Like a brand.

@roostah3575 29 күн бұрын

Hay isn’t NOT IN Wales, Saesneg! It’s in Herefordshire - on the river WYE!

@MrDanJB85 29 күн бұрын

The people at Ordnance Survey seem to be under the impression that its on Welsh side of the boder, in Powys. Is there some political context I'm missing here? (Wye bring that up) I recall that some years ago, the English Democrat party wanted stood in south east Wales and west of England on the platform of holding a referendum on annexing Monmouthsire to England (effectively moving the Anglo-Welsh border further west) - but I think even that would have left Hay-on-Wye in Wales.

@dylanhough1653 Ай бұрын

Utmost respect for Ava just saying she doesn’t want to comment on foreign affairs when she doesn’t feel she’s qualified to do so 🎉

@nomoreheroes93 29 күн бұрын

Ed's hair is looking normal, that won't last long

@EamonCoyle 29 күн бұрын

I would think if Farage did come in he would have to spend quite a bit of time pissing on the skip fire that is the Tory party !!

@Deedumdee Ай бұрын

love podcast hate nons it's the politics Jo podcast ladies and gentlemen

@alexdavies30 29 күн бұрын

I too remember that video .... tumescent

@tomtom-gi9eo Ай бұрын

Arms and compenents via Cyprus. Sunak is gaslighting.

@tomfrancis7920 Ай бұрын

tune in for 'Overton Window' bingo

@aredub1847 Ай бұрын

is pissing on tents a thing in the uk?

@jackoh991 29 күн бұрын

It's a metaphor

@robinmcara793 Ай бұрын

What, and Labour just accept them? So sick of all these ppl tbh 😂😂😂 all clowns 🤡 😂

@IAmThankfulToday Ай бұрын

Lawd Jeezus Christ... The 3 of you... 🙏

@tersecwalsingham5778 Ай бұрын

Good pisscasting. (Sadly... we're so back). Ed's out of frame in the wide.

@nexperia6119 Ай бұрын

Ed and Ollie are so pink and doughy compared to Ava😄

@JamieAlice92 29 күн бұрын

Can someone please explain to me the urban legend about the starburst and the genital warts? I’m curious but don’t want to google it

@markcordwell2035 Ай бұрын

The woman who gone to labour done a deal.

@danielmannering2573 Ай бұрын

Is she standing down?

@Boghopper9999 Ай бұрын

According to The News Agents podcast, yes

@jackoh991 29 күн бұрын

Yes

@harrygreenaway 29 күн бұрын

Has Ollie been working out? Looking hench man.

@SirBenJamin_ 29 күн бұрын

Made the mistake of googling the starburst thing

@Holismleith 29 күн бұрын

Sorry what!? Farage shareholder in what now?

@nathanielratcliff7456 29 күн бұрын

Elphicke is a tricky one. I think the Labour party will have considered it carefully with the optics and concluded that the shock benefit of having a quite right leaning MP defecting and slating the Conservatives outweighs the fuss over her history and voting record. No doubt finally swayed because she is standing down at the next election so won't be in the party for very long. It's not 100% ideal but Labour will take the number and stunning most of the political world is the bigger story.

@ThomasBoyd-gx9wr Ай бұрын

Only nation got cheap energy bills is France Paris. Awesome.

@julianshepherd2038 Ай бұрын

By massively subsidising nuclear electricity.

@finleyxavier7273 27 күн бұрын

I saw that exactly same clip at school of the close up bellend never did the condom banana thing tho

@bigjim8550 29 күн бұрын

Farage is 40-1 to become prime minster after Rishi. Boris is at 35-1.......

@sfshinz Ай бұрын

18:45: once again, dancing on the edge of the Politics Joe Pisscast.

@Esther-Pesta 29 күн бұрын

Just the tip 😂

@veganbarnsley15 Ай бұрын

Love podcasts, hate religion

@patrickcrosby6219 Ай бұрын

To me, it sort of looks like Oliver Dowden is mouthing along with Sunak. As if he wrote the question himself, perhaps? 44:06

@waitingforanalibi2224 Ай бұрын

Morden Mosque is the biggest.

@tomg268 29 күн бұрын

Did Ollie out himself as a Hindu nationalist?

@d.e.7210 Ай бұрын

Complete self-indulgent bollocks. 22 minutes I'll never get back. And I so wanted to like this. Lesson learned I suppose.

@jackoh991 29 күн бұрын

Lol..too young for you or.too left for you?

@tomtom-gi9eo Ай бұрын

Which side of the house is the Tory side?

@matthewpenman6162 Ай бұрын

hi ed.

@DubStudioCreateVinyl 29 күн бұрын

Can the left please reclaim the phrase “common sense”

@stephenglancy8551 Ай бұрын

Wee Mikey Gove needs back on the front bench. Ive been at festivals and not gouched as much as he does in Westminster. You take the right approach to commentating on our politics. You guys laugh at it because it is a joke. Chancers and con artists 'running the country'. Aye into the ground......