No one can dispute that Toscanini knew what Verdi wanted, since he knew him personally and played in the premier performances of some of his works. And Verdi always wanted his tempos rushed .
@fedecastaldi4 жыл бұрын
la si può ascoltare anche un milione di volte, l'emozione che si prova è sempre immensa. grazie verdi, grazie toscanini
@GaryValan Жыл бұрын
For those of us whon't knw Italian, "you can listen to it a million times, the emotion you feel is always immense. thanks greens, thanks toscanini"
@pierrewalter5324 Жыл бұрын
Davvero!
@michaelcole6062 Жыл бұрын
I would say thanks Verdi not thanks greens
@jorgesanmartin87374 жыл бұрын
Toscanini in his youth knew Verdi personally, no one undertand his music like him
@XMarkxyz3 жыл бұрын
Not only knew, he played, the cello if I remember correcttly, directed by Verdi himself
@brianfest88753 жыл бұрын
WTF ! You'll never go to bed, without learning something new!
@donmigueldecuenca3 жыл бұрын
Toscanini not only met Verdi, he knew him well, and Verdi admired him tremendously and appreciated how well he played this music.
@Chlrintruc3 жыл бұрын
The orchestra feared this man. He would torture those who made mistakes with words. But he is regardless one of the most greatest and most revered conductors of all time.
@mirellatei73366 ай бұрын
Amato Toscanini, maestro ineguagliabile, grazie
@robertwilson1232 жыл бұрын
Arturo Toscanini was an in his time the world's brilliant and leading conductor. Always giving outstanding performances, precise, dynamic, exciting, powerful, melodic and pure Toscanini. Toscanini was a perfectionist, the NBC Symphony Orchestra was established for him in the US. He gave superb performances with the BBC Symphony orchestra at the Queen's Hall London before it was destroyed in WW2. All orchestral musicians always respected "the Maestro". He is almost never heard these days, his recordings never played... a very great pity. As a great follower of this outstanding conductor I should point out one great weakness. Almost all of the NBC Symphony Orchestra recordings were recorded in Studio 8 of the NBC facilities and this studio had a dead, dull accoustic which spoilt many great performances. His interpretations of Verdi, Rossini, Beethoven, Brahms, Wagner and Elgar shown his great skill.....precision and interpretation. He always conducted from memory and always had perfect timing and intonation. Look up and listen to his great recordings on KZfaq, Rossini La Gazza Ladre (what power, great strings), William Tell, Brahms 4th, Beethoven's symphonies,.... All great recordings.
@adamwas14 жыл бұрын
You have to admire Toscanini...a true genius
@joncheskin10 жыл бұрын
Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall sforzandos in a single bound, it's super-conductor!
@eternalmariacallas22834 жыл бұрын
2:36 YESSSSS!!!! The passion and AGONY!!!!!!!!! What a conductor!!!!!
@cherubim445210 жыл бұрын
Toscanini was a very intelligent conductor. Zubin Mehta said that an orchestra should be conducted as if it would be a single instrument. Toscanini mastered this task with perfection.
@douglasmurphy91277 жыл бұрын
right cherubim toscanini a titan amongst conductors
@stefanofederici13046 жыл бұрын
Chopen tetri stesse
@luborkloda89034 жыл бұрын
For me this style of conducting is obsolete. Sounds like MIDI from a computer. In 1944 it was something valuable but for me it doesn't sound natural. Orchestra players are under pressure. Opressed, enslaved and humilated. No much room for human creativity and positive energy left and this is a problem. I'm glad that this style of conducting doesn't have any chance today.
@acloudonthebluestsky96874 жыл бұрын
@@luborkloda8903you should see from 18th-19th century ppl's perspective. No one has that perfection he wants the most detail from all the instrumental
@cappannonno4 жыл бұрын
@@luborkloda8903 what you say isn't correct at all. In symphonic (or opera music) the "human creativity" belongs only to the composer. The composer of "La Forza del Destino" is Giuseppe Verdi and Toscanini met him. These recordings are pieces of gold because from them we can presume how Verdi wanted them to sound. In the last years many conductors decided to stop following the "directives" of the composers in order to adapt the pieces to new music tastes. I'm not saying that this is not correct, I really don't know what is the best way to play these marterpieces today. What I know is that you cannot say that Toscanini's conduction "Opressed, enslaved and humilated" orchestra in a artistic sense (I know very well his rehearsal policy but It's different). And, especially, It is unfair to claim that that he gave "No much room for human creativity and positive energy left". It's simply not up to the musician. It's up to the conductor and his "connection" with the composer. That's it :) Of course for solo musicists is entirely another matter.
@puglover9017 жыл бұрын
that's so fast!!! I played the 1st violin part, I would die!
@Meira7504 жыл бұрын
Yeaa, well we Italians are a lively bunch!
@maryvaillancourt11584 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I know I can’t get over how fast those violins play
@lunchmind4 жыл бұрын
It's also possible that the stopwatch ruled the recording sessions in those days.
@lunchmind4 жыл бұрын
OH wait. this might be a concert performance,no?
@kaynanLisboa4 жыл бұрын
Well, in fact, it is not THAT fast... but because of the age of the recording, and the material it was recorded on, they have to accelerate the playing a little bit, because the intonation tends to lower a bit with the time... not nowadays, witht the digital recordings thou. ;)
@antoninomarullo84685 ай бұрын
il più GRANDE di tutti e mai superato l'unico che riesce a farti comprendere cosa sono le emozioni dal Paradiso all'Inferno, mentre tanti altri sono solo Purgatorio
@cosimoepicoco70225 жыл бұрын
Stupefacente! Sempre senza spartito
@iaraculonna15 жыл бұрын
Non vi è alcun dubbio che egli sia, senza alcuna ombra di dubbio, il più grande direttore d'orchestra della storia della musica.. Riposa in pace Arturo...e grazie.....
@paolograndinetti76093 жыл бұрын
Affermazione molto forte che non trova riscontro tra i veri specialisti della musica. Non per fare un classifica, ma solo per ricordare i coevi a Toscanini dobbiamo nominare Furtwängler, Celibidache,Karajan, Knappertsbusch e non solo questi. Io credo che il successo di Toscanini sia in parte dovuto a sue scelte di vita, ed anche alla sua bravura.
@antoninomarullo84683 жыл бұрын
Il più grande di tutti e mai superato
@danielafesti67284 жыл бұрын
pazzesco inimitabile tutto senza spartito fedele al compositore fino allo spasimo-grandissimo ♥
@albertofavero32505 жыл бұрын
Potenza,precisione e al tempo stesso sensibilità e interpretazione immenso e unico Toscanini,dirigeva tutto a memoria senza lo spartito davanti a più di ottant'anni.
@shin-i-chikozima2 жыл бұрын
This footage is a historical treasure
@jivamoksha12 жыл бұрын
Toscanini is the best conductor ever lived in the modern times.Precise, Brilliant, powerful, and Sharply , really the best, extraordinary performance. 100%
@joncheskin10 жыл бұрын
I love the way that for Toscanini, less is more. He barely glances at a section for a cue and they come in with perfect precision. Gestures are dead clear with no frills. He commands incredible attention and precision from the orchestra.
@jhb1349 жыл бұрын
Jonathan - Yes, there is ALWAYS the precision from Arturo's NBC Symphony, of it's time. I've listened-to Toscanini's recordings for a considerable time ... and I find THIS version of "Forza del Destino" a bit TOO-fast, in it's opening bars. The very ending, also, is pushed to lengths, that I still find ... a bit more than what Verdi would call-for. I've listened-to Markevitch and a few others, in this Overture, and I think that others have FOUND this Overture, in a more-relaxed, more-cohesive interpretation. Of course, there's NO denying the extraordinary Toscanini/NBC DISCIPLINE in this performance, and we're always glad to have this video excerpt of the "Toscanini way", in it's great strengths, and (sometimes) deficiencies!!
@lupash7 жыл бұрын
Toscanini's way is Verdi's way. Toscanini met Verdi, he knew what he had to do. How do you think any other conductor would know better than Toscanini? Specially a Russian conductor? Oh no.
@UmbertoMarilungo8 жыл бұрын
questa musica e questa direzione sono ... l'italia!!! onore a questi grandi uomini
@postatility14 жыл бұрын
Toscanini absolutely LOOKED as a conductor should.Serious,dignified,in control.He started out playing the cellobut,as with Duke Ellinton,the orchestra was his instrument.Thank you so much for the posts.
@74umgrad13 жыл бұрын
As someone one said, "If you can't play it like that, you shouldn't play it all." Magnificent.
@alaingautier10563 жыл бұрын
L'orchestre comme un seul instrument ! Le maestro est un génie. Clarinet ! Merveilleux Toscanini... et ses orchestres
@tenore85 жыл бұрын
Che Forza! Bravissimi.
@nephelais16 жыл бұрын
Senza parole. Ineffabile
@KimmyMalfoy4517 жыл бұрын
i have so much respect for the musicians in this vid... i'm not so sure my fingers would move that fast. lol. brilliance by toscanini in holding that thing together!
@woofie86473 жыл бұрын
It's because he actually gives them a definite beat to play on.
@endreszatmari23023 жыл бұрын
@@woofie8647 And he gives them a definite beating if they don't play on the beat... :)
@woofie86473 жыл бұрын
@@endreszatmari2302 LOL!!
@wilburscoot46212 жыл бұрын
@@endreszatmari2302 couldnt agree more
@Olovlig3 жыл бұрын
I love his energy, presence, eye contact and listening
@mariamoavro88114 жыл бұрын
È difficile esprimere la potenza di questa, musica, contiene una, energia che me assume così se me lo consentite:ha la forza di resuscitare anche chi sta per lasciarci poiché questa mudica è racchiusa nel titolo medesimo :La Forza del Destino e Toscanini è un rigoroso Maestro. Grazie G. Verdi e grazie a Toscanini di cui l'Italia porterà sempre in alto la Terra della grande divina Musica. 🙏💙🎵
@klbird8 жыл бұрын
Not too many movies were made of him conducting. Great vision of the man.
@davemiller76334 жыл бұрын
My late father and I often discussed whether or not one person can truly change the world. Arturo Toscanini did. RIP
@theo4u4me4113 жыл бұрын
BREATHTAKING !!! This is the first time I've seen TOSCANINI conducting... It is like taking a Masterclass in Music from the Great One himself... FASCINATING and so PASSIONATELY BRILLIANT...
@annamariafacchiano16889 жыл бұрын
Gesto,preciso, imperioso, autorevole
@ernestogasperini3 жыл бұрын
Con l'ouverture de La Forza del Destino, Verdi dimostra di non essere solo uno dei più grandi operisti della storia ma anche un compositore sinfonico straordinario
@andreaklettke28782 жыл бұрын
Legendary!
@prof.detroialuigi39664 ай бұрын
Italian genius forever! the 4 greatest on the world: Toscanini, Paganini, Corelli, Claudio Villa for the romance song.
@giuseppinascapparone33035 жыл бұрын
Questa è la ...Forza...della musica di Verdi! Questa è la musica italiana!!!!! Grazie Immenso VERDI.
@JosephSamuel194813 жыл бұрын
There will never be another Toscanini Those broadcasts I remember those as a child riding in the car and listen to the genius a few were on television eventually also when my mother cried when he died
@zs6ysaka16 жыл бұрын
Quite outstanding and dramatic music than any other directors. It's really impressive.
@johndominick88254 жыл бұрын
WOW! It was unbelievable! Forza is still one of my favorite overtures. A bit fast for strings at the end but BOY...did I loooove it!!
@millonety12311 жыл бұрын
Mejor imposible! que grandisimo director!Perfecto!
@VIAREGGIO196016 жыл бұрын
TOSCANINI: UN GENIO DELLA MUSICA!
@vincenzolucchesi95033 жыл бұрын
Grande Arturo Toscanini
@johnruggeri84310 жыл бұрын
I am crying tears of joy and amazement.
@richmondfred38645 жыл бұрын
Oeuvre grandiose que mon père chantonnait en se rasant. J'ai fait un film pour le festival du film d'amour de Mons et sur la dernière scène où on voit une femme terrorisée courir entre les tombes du cimetière car elle a vu une amie mourir sur la tombe de son petit-fils j'ai mis cette intro. Ne pouvant reproduire ce document, o m'a joué cet air au synthé avec exactement le tempo imposé par le grand Toscanini qui a respecté la suite de Fibonacci dans les premières mesures et a conduit la suite "con furia". C'est la plus belle exécution que j'aie entendue. Merci Maestro et bravo à l'orchestre et ses techniciens. Franco
@paulwellings-longmore101211 ай бұрын
Such an amazing combination of speed accuracy and passion. Nothing can compare to this.
@MaestroVNG16 жыл бұрын
Many times before I saw this video conducted by Toscanini I was informed that my tempo is too fast. Some of my collegues-conductors tald me that my interpretation of musical pieces are close to those in past. When I saw this Video I believed into this statements of my collegues. My version of this Overture is close 90% to the Toscanini Version.
@alaingautier10563 жыл бұрын
Oui le tempo est vif, rapide pour le dire autrement, juste ! par la perception innée et la direction sans ambages : clarté, franchise, netteté. Merveilleux Maestro. Une merveille.
@catmaggedon125310 ай бұрын
Precise. Precision is so perfect. Thank You Maestro 🥹♥️♥️♥️.
@--NTHR_DT--FAN2 жыл бұрын
The fact that this is 2021 nearly 2022 and im sitting hear only listening to this for the first time🧍♀
@jimmychoo18574 жыл бұрын
Even with video.. No words!
@user-qs1rp2tg6b Жыл бұрын
Однажды, одолев крутую лестницу, зашёл Артуро Тосканини, и с этой минуты началась дружба, заставившая меня еще сильней и осознанней ,чем прежде, полюбить музыку, наслаждаться ею. С тех пор в течение ряда лет, я непременно присутствовал на его репетициях и всякий раз переживал заново ту страстную борьбу в которой выковывалось его мастерство - то самое , которое на публичных концертах представляется одновременно и волшебным, и простым. Стефан Цвейг. Вчерашний мир.
@stsuter13 жыл бұрын
simply , beautiful..i played verdi, in symphonic contest at the daytona beach music festival, a very prestigious competition..we left the judges in tears very special, and so very beautiful...wonderful in all its glory and phases
@davemiller76333 жыл бұрын
Stunning. No words to describe it. Masterpiece of all art and civilizations. And....will never be again
@woofie86473 жыл бұрын
So good to see a conductor give the musicians an actual beat. These days it seems more about how "unique" their baton technique is.
@ditogam14 жыл бұрын
MAGNIFICENT!, MAGIC!! Thank you very much Pastroni for posting and 65attila for sending me this Amazing recording!
@granbranfan13 жыл бұрын
Beautiful music....thanks for posting.
@swimmad456 Жыл бұрын
This is the man chosen by his peers to conduct the music at Verdi's funeral. I think we can class the the performance as "authentic".
@PabloMoralesDaal16 жыл бұрын
What I see in this video is a masterclass for conductors, where Toscanini shows what is right to do and what is not when is conducting . No doubts that he was a maestro and in this video his total control over the orchestra is cleared. With a minimun of energy he gets an inmense powerful sound. According tempi and tunes is the same in Karajan´s version (f minor)
@alaingautier10563 жыл бұрын
Il connait tous les opéras par coeur. Chaque pupitre... il le voit, l'entend. J'avoue je le découvre sur ces documents. Emouvant au possible. God bless you !
@jivamoksha12 жыл бұрын
Nunca he escuchado mejor interpretacion de esta pieza que Toscanini, Poderoso, Brillante, preciso. Sharply, fast, El sabia darle el toque maestro a las piezas musicales, Dificil que pudiera existir otro como Toscanini, Karajan, Stokowsky, Maazel o Muti, Furtwlangler muy buenos pero como Toscanini ninguno.
@Zva267 жыл бұрын
I've never heard the "Forza" overture conducted this fast, but it's SO dramatic, so propulsive, so compelling. What a horrible pity the great maestro never recorded the opera complete. He could have had Milanov, Tucker, Warren, Pinza, etc. What a recording THAT would have been! A complete Toscanini "La Forza del Destino"! The thought of it makes my soul quake.
@bodikins7 жыл бұрын
Toscanini trained Pinza.
@austin00316 жыл бұрын
After hearing this, I'm not really able to listen to this overture at any other than these tempos. And considering Toscanini's background, he should be universally recognized as having the most authentic interpretation of Verdi's music.
@mariangelacaronia74622 жыл бұрын
Magico. La sua bacchetta sembra, di volta in volta, prender forma di archetto, clarietto, flauto, tromba, oboe, corni e tamburi. In un solo suo sguardo si concentra e irradia un'intera 'foresta' strumentale, tutte le forme della luce e delle ombre, dei suoni e dei sussurri, i venti e le brezze, nascono e tacciono col più invisibile dei suoi gesti. Inarrivabile
@LiliaAnauSmith3 жыл бұрын
Toscanini meu Amor !!!!
@paulostroff9916 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@MassimilianoBigazzi12 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR POSTING!
@ioncrisu68614 жыл бұрын
Bravo, Toscanini !!!
@dimitrisorzieri73245 ай бұрын
Ne hi sentite altre versioni più lente ma questa rimane la migliore
@stsuter13 жыл бұрын
simply , beautiful..i played verdi, in symphonic contest at the daytona beach music festival, a very prestigious competition..we left the judges in tears very special, and so very beautiful
@ellenbacklinАй бұрын
My mom used to have recordings of his conducting and you can clearly hear him humming in the background 😊
@Sayflay14 жыл бұрын
Eccezionale
@666fred31316 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%, I never saw him conduct in person, but my neighbors wife would go to New York just for his rehersahals.
@Zva2613 жыл бұрын
@SteveAndrewLangford - I find his "Traviata" recording unmercifully too fast, but THIS is SO appropriate for "La Forza del Destino". They just don't perform this music like this anymore. It's a whirlwind of emotional turmoil, bursting with guts and drama. The musicians must have felt like they were driving the Indy 500! I doubt whether we'll ever hear it done like this again. Bravo, Maestro!
@WilliamSilva-ml5nw4 жыл бұрын
Toscanini's conducting gives the music momentum!
@violingirl24 жыл бұрын
Obsessed with this!
@davidb5818 Жыл бұрын
Great performance and interpretation.
@MarconiJazz2 жыл бұрын
Caro Arturo, Li hai fatti correre! Awesome execution. My eyes can’t detach from his face and his hands. He was so charismatic and his hands movements are incredibly clear. Nothing to say, I just clap my hands 🙌
@dyadic Жыл бұрын
I would recommend you to watch the recording of one of Georg Szell's (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9KpiNeanKjGc40.html ) rehearsals. Though true that Toscanini was a better conductor, it was often said that Szell's left hand was the most pure instrument of all on earth.
@jivamoksha12 жыл бұрын
Toscanini es the best conductor ever, He was, powerful, precise, disciplined, no mistakes, really sharply, With Toscanini really we learned to appreciate the meaning of Classical Music. My Father said Tosacanini was the best and really is truth. He knew how to explote the resources of the Orchestra.The Great Master Arturo Toscanini.
@sarahaprincesa10 жыл бұрын
IMMENSO
@snapfinger12 жыл бұрын
Everything during war time was orchestrated with this kind of precision & sense of urgency.
@carloalbertoalbertoni22036 жыл бұрын
ineguagliabile !
@isabelsantos84247 жыл бұрын
Maravilloso
@ariasemusicaslegendadas7657 Жыл бұрын
Toscanini senti a música de uma forma muito incrivel, descanse em Paz Toscanini
@LyubomirIko Жыл бұрын
He is a legend, but those recordings are also with so distinctive sound!
@rosannauras87982 жыл бұрын
È il primo direttore che ho conosciuto è diventato il mio mito
@missmusicgirl051113 жыл бұрын
Dang.... I'm listening while reading along with my music, and i can't help but think how much faster and with more precision they play everything!!
@valdengo113 жыл бұрын
...same old Toscanini.....as usual, matchless perfection...these notes will never be played like this again....Toscanini belongs to the ages......
@Ronnie102715 жыл бұрын
i have played this song with the SC Youth Philharmonic. I love it and i'm about to play it for allstate. we didn't take it so fast. i wish we wil for allstate i love the piece. very well written
@yaelpalombo4093 Жыл бұрын
Sublime Maestro,
@atrebil7114 жыл бұрын
Ecco l'eleganza nel dirigere.
@RE5514 жыл бұрын
Toscanini.. One sharp dude. He caught Verdi's idea, and did something to this beautiful piece of music which resulted in a 6 min. clip that was, is, and always will be so incredible. Simply amazing.
@vannap6705 Жыл бұрын
La MUSICA che inebria!!! Evviva i GRANDI
@gokhansayram6 жыл бұрын
Maestro!
@SandrineAnterrion13 жыл бұрын
One of my fav tunes
@ErikaRagazzi15 жыл бұрын
Very very nice.
@user-py1jg6bb2r2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!❤👍👍❗ Just superb...
@robertosensoni8936 Жыл бұрын
Verdi è grandissimo. Toscanini immenso....
@alvarojosetasconospina35832 жыл бұрын
SUBLIMEEEEEEEEE...graxieee..!!!
@RWBHere2 жыл бұрын
amagnificent. Thank-you for uploading this recording. 🙂
@dyadic2 жыл бұрын
This is an extract of Toscanini's Internationale. If you want to listen the entire overture without any speech interfiering, you can further research on the mentioned concert/work and your desires will be met.