it should be the case but they have started with the main 3 who had to deal with sea people's invasions .the greeks were already destroyed or about to fall and join the sea peoples . as of assyria and babylon they have to deal with different problems

Only three cultures to play with will be boring and yet they call it a full fledged total war game instead of a saga

@@reydryne you will get the rest , you have to understand the logic . the 3 they gave you are the main ones who fought the sea peoples . this make them the main ones concerned by the collapse mechanism implemented who is the main gameplay mechanic for now , fight to survive . THEN later they gonna introduce other cultures with their own playstyle . for example if they introduce the greeks they will probably be alongside the sea peoples , this mean you will have different goals than surviving , you will have to migrate instead and form a kingdom or something . same if they introduce assyria . you will have to survive in a different way against mountain barbiarians and arabic nomads and splinter sea people armies etc .... then they will add a different campaign (maybe bigger maybe smaller , maybe set in a different period) . so the scope of the game is still massive

I mean on the steam page there are 3 faction packs in the mix already for pre order who else would they be?

​@@reydryneADHD is strong with this one lol How did you even play Three Kingdoms haha Each of the Egyptian factions feel abd play completely different. Like in Troy they each have their own unique units

you can tell he was enjoying voice acting it

@@LauftFafa I love the way he says "Warty old crocodile" XD

Yeah better as Odysseus was so stupid

I'm glad they chose not to make him sound like a little boy like they did Rhesus in Troy

I would even say 12/10 if what we hear on the flyby is also culture specific battle music!

It's Battlestar Galactica remake music basically.

@@R3GARnator in a much better interpretation than anything else

I don't think you can beat the soundtrack from the Pharaoh game in 1999. Big shame that no game has ever replicated that.

While it’s not as good as what Jeff Van Dyck gave the series, they’ve done a good job with this one.

Aye, it was nice that you could choose which type of bodyguards you could have in Rome 2, but being able to customize them much more heavily in Pharaoh sounds very fun!

You can collect and swap out bodyguards in Troy as well.

@@Raider1377 You can chose what base unit the general goes in, similar to rome 2. Its not the same as picking what equipment they get. I'm hoping Pharaoh makes it possible to have unique looking custom bodyguard units that are different from recruitable units.

Yeah I agree Mesopotamia should have been added to the starting campaign map in the first place

Do it for Hammurabi, CA.

since anatolia looks identical, i hope we can merge the troy map and make a mega game with mycenaeans and assawa league together. on the other hand, at least Assyria should be there

​@@toskyrunwhy settle for Assyria only if we can get Babylon Elam Nairi etc

They won't add them because of "certain" religious Connotations to a certain group.

It’s certainly an interesting idea. I can see many opportunities for challenges there

A man can dream

I also suggested combining the two in one of the earlier Pharaoh videos!

Hint: wait a few more years, wink wink

oh yes, fun to grind 500 provinces with a repetitive gameplay and many hundreds of similars units

@@user-fb9sm7nn2x then this is simply not the game for you :)

He's definitely there to ensure that the Bronze Age Collapse is a genuine risk no matter which faction you play, I like it. :D

Ikr! Looking forward to playing this, though it makes me sad that Chaos Dwarfs really missed out on this style of music - it would suit them.

​@@Pemmont107I know. Wasted opportunity, really.

They put shechem east of the Jordan river so my expectations dropped massively In general total war is often very inaccurate with proper historical representation, but here they even put probably several cities on the completely wrong places on the map..

@@joka4387 its not inaccuracy but scaling and province division . warhammer is massively innacurate none of their maps were canon on neither scale nor shape nor city locations . they are not like paradox , they still fragment the map in an arcadish way that is simplistic and since cities are massive in the campaign map and need a sphere around it this push them to place some cities in different location . i wouldnt be offended by that really . maybe if paradox did it and they did that in victoria 3 and i disliked the game massively for a plethora of reasons but here its not too terrible . remember cannaan is tight area with tons of cities .

@@LauftFafa if your "scaling" leads to placing Shechem/Nablus, the "capital" of Samaria, in Jordan instead of Samaria/Palestine then yes that is inaccurate and wrong. Either put the cities on the correct place, use other cities or upscale the map. I dont remember any city in the total war Rome, attila or Troy games being this horribly misplaced (though I could be wrong). Of course these games are always extremely simplified and game maps and mechanics can never represent true history, but that's another level.

​@@joka4387Nah Rome 2's city map placement was pretty bad as well and even Med 2 had issues.

@@joka4387 yeah . in ck3 there was a bronze age mod (wasnt up to date last time i checked) who so hardcore i couldnt keep up with it especially because it uses native names . its how i learned that Waset is thebes , menefer is memphis , Wilusa is troy etc but in that mod all my years reading about bronze age felt like worthless because the ammount of research those modders did put in there was something i couldnt even get near it for various reasons such as lack of things to read from , lack of maps and more (as a carthograph myself it takes me forever just to find a bronze age map with very few cities mentioned in native name) but those modders did it with thousands of cities i would pay money to have whatever source material they used

I agree with you entirely here. Only an absolute idiot would pre-order anything

yeah, pre-ordering a game nowadays is basically a death sentence. It used to be if you saw a game you'd thought you like or played a predecessor in a series you would play like £20-30 pre-ordering it. Now its £70 for a lucky dip if your gonna get a working game or not.

It was in 3 kingdoms and thrones of britannia the last two historical titles. I guess if just referring to warhammer.

​@@peters9401in good Version only in Attila

Meh, I got sleepy after the trailer.

The symbol on the banner is the weapon of the Hittite storm god Teshub and the round thing on top is most likely what's called a Hittite Sun disk, so probaby teasing Hittites. But since we already know they are next I also think this is a double tease for banners too.

@@lp4514 I'm not too familiar on Hittite history or symbols associated with them so thanks for the answer. I do like banners though, so if they do add them in, it will be great.

Customs locked behind achievements ? Terrible idea.

@@mariusbehm9874 can you clarify expand your point on the customs?

@@MedjayofFaiyum you must unlock archivment to make the game sandboxier

@@MedjayofFaiyum custom UIs probably like the Warhammer Legendary Lords locked behind achievements?

@@MedjayofFaiyum watch the vidieo from the great bock of grduges you must burn 350 buildings then you can make the decion to turn diplomatic penteys off

You’re playing THRONES??? lmao

+

The use of flaming arrows in battles is not very historically accurate, is it?

Yeah especially with CA raising Steam prices of their games by like 2x or sometimes 3x lol.

Seems like the generals can be destroyed and killed as Ramses was killed in the video by the Canaanite force in Egypt.

This is cleary not the max unit size.

I hope so, otherwise this game will be outdone by older games in the series.

@@grumpyoverlord1031 I that’s a certainty anyway. However, from what we can see, the game is looking a lot better than what I was expecting.

I really hope they add Troy map like they did with Immortal Empires, also Babylonians and Asdyrians are a must in this. Hopefully they will add them at some point.

As today most of them is kinda unknown, but the most accepted theory is that various tribes/lesser kingdoms joined to sack the coasts of Egypt and Anatolia. Literally vikings from the Bronze Age.

Multi-ethnic warbands and pirates, including Shardana from Sardinia, Mycaenian Greeks, non-Hittite Anatolians (Lukka), and others - including ancestors of Etruscans and Philistines from Bible. Overall, there is little known about them

Killed by arabs and cannite

Never played any of the warhammer games but I assume that’s good lol

@@GodofToast oh it is!! You should give those games a shot! Just get them in sale....

@@GodofToast or even better just watch bthe Total war chaos dwarf trailer 😅

@@mrbushi1062 yeah, those prices aren’t exactly small

Probably because they were user older builds during the gameplay showcase. Something that was specially said during one of their gameplay reveals. They wanted to make sure they were using builds that they knew were stable to avoid crashes and other interferences during the live gameplay sessions.

It says October, but no official date yet. But i'm guessing it's gonna have a delay or something.

@@Z-1991 Looks pretty deep into development, I think we can be optimistic that it won't have delays.

@@Z-1991I hope they take their time. This game has potential.

I mean given that we can assume there are a few local sharpshooters up there defending the city it doesn't make much sense that capturing the tower would make them start shooting their own people.

@@partydean17 And it's impossible for those men to be killed and replaced by the attacking side's archers? Or at least neutralized and removed as a threat? That makes a lot more sense to me than the total collapse of a giant stone structure the moment enemy forces take possession of it like some kind of ancient trip mine.