Tough Love with Jamey & Justin | The Man Enough Podcast

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For the first time as a duo, Justin and Jamey sit down for a special episode on tough love -from friendship to envy and hard-to-swallow advice- nothing is off limits. They delve into the heart of masculinity, and personal growth as they explore vulnerability as an untapped strength among men, share personal anecdotes of growth and self-awareness, and confront the often overlooked necessity of self-care amidst the call of service to others.
Justin shares his challenges with self-acceptance and his desire for approval. Meanwhile, Jamey is challenged to spend more time in silence and find true joy in the “nothingness” of life. Tune in for a masterclass in the art of friendship, introspection, and emotional courage.
Timecodes:
00:00 - Episode Begins
03:19 - Justin offers Jamey some “tough love”
06:52 - Can you find joy in stillness?
14:06- Jamey didn’t like Justin at first.
16:50 - Jamey sees Justin for the man that he is
21:20 - Children can inherit “self-doubt”
22:58 - Justin had a really lonely childhood
26:01 - Justin is afraid of being confident
28:15 - It’s powerful for men to express their love and respect
29:32 - What would the world look like if boys grew up knowing that men were safe spaces?
Quotes:
“Recently, I've been starting to experience some of what you experienced and some of the way you live your life. And suddenly, recently, joy is becoming more of my default. And I know that would be impossible without having you as my best friend.” - Justin Baldoni
“Friendship is in the nothingness.” - Jamey Heath
“I whisper into the ears of my kids, I tell them there's nothing that they could ever do to make me not love them. That they are enough just as they are.” - Justin Baldoni
“I'm on a constant journey to remember my enoughness. That's why I wrote the book and that's why I said in the book that I have not arrived.” - Justin Baldoni
“You do something really special, which is speak to the human heart. Certainly spoke to mine.” - Jamey Heath
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Executive Producers: Justin Baldoni, Jamey Heath, Tarah Malhotra-Feinberg, Marc Pritchard, Anna Saalfeld, Chris Corcoran
Producer: Kayla Nicholson
This conversation was recorded in September 2023

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@lee-annspence7012 6 ай бұрын

I'm a 30 yo female who came here because of an IG reel and this has been one of the most refreshing and life altering 30 minutes I've ever spent watching a podcast. THANK YOU! It's crazy how much I relate to the things you guys discussed. Thank you.

@wisdom9091 6 ай бұрын

When listen to misogynist most were actually feminist a lot raise signal mother's. Alot have experiences . And mysandry IV ate already in positions mainstream. College professors TV movies celebrates.. it's seems like mysandry is thought by sociaty mysonygy is learned from experience

@butterflygraceful34 6 ай бұрын

i just did the same

@slyspencer2072 6 ай бұрын

Me too

@clausmte1 6 ай бұрын

Me too!!😊

@Chacha2ouf 5 ай бұрын

Me too, from IG. i have now subscribed!

@tatjanagiagourtas7018 2 ай бұрын

I can’t get enough of men loving each other showing affection, emotions and their reflection.

@tylerjordengiller 5 ай бұрын

2 years ago i joined you on this healing journey, i was a 28 year old dealing with severe depression, anger, and a deep unhealed sadness. I became numb and didn't cry for years. I can now look back at the shell of a man that i was for more than a decade and say that person is no more. I am safe to be vulnerable and open and share my feelings and opinions on things without being silenced. I cry weekly and remain open to whatever comes my way, vulnerability truly is freeing. Liz, Jamey, Justin and the countless guests have truly made a lasting impact. Im proud of you all 🖤

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Congratulations on the progress you've made! It's a lifelong journey. We're so glad you're here with us, willing to share your experience, and that this show is making a positive impact.

@danimal1981 5 ай бұрын

I'm a 42 year old man, and I love you both so much.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you, Dan!

@rootcanal7188 16 күн бұрын

@@WeAreManEnough what will you do when you face deliberate discrimination against men by the feminists in human resources? when you get prostate cancer, then learn that feminists in Congress made sure that there is far more funding for breast cancer than prostate cancer? When you are falsely accused of rape or sexual assault? When feminist lawyers destroy you in divorce court? I think you need to take these and other issues affecting men in to account.

@aeonvoyage9725 6 ай бұрын

I can't express how grateful I am for you guys and for this dialogue. I'm a man in his 30s who had such a similar childhood experience to Justin's, I really resonate with everything he shared here. I've been trying (and usually failing) to encourage similar levels of openness and emotional support among my guy friends and it can be so incredibly difficult to create situations where even close friends are willing to open up. It's truly a tragedy how deeply men have been shamed from having conversations like this with each other. It feels extra alienating and easy to doubt myself when I have this dynamic of trying to encourage these emotionally safe spaces among men but it fails to be received. You all on this podcast have been an emotional safe-haven for me pretty much since episode 1. Thank you so much.

@artfullyprompt 5 ай бұрын

I had the exact same experience, growing up gay in texas in the 90s, no one was out, i was the first in my highschool, and life was hard, really hard, but i survived as most of us do, and it has taken me until this month, my 40th birthday to finally reach a point in my healing and trauma discovery to be able to look at my entire life with a positive point of view, and find forgiveness for those that wronged me during my early years. anyways. if u ever meed a pal, i can always use more. take care

@aeonvoyage9725 5 ай бұрын

@@artfullyprompt thank you. That sounds like it must have been a brutal experience. I'm really happy for you that you were finally able to get to a positive place though, must have been quite the journey. I appreciate it, and happy birthday too!

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! We really appreciate your vulnerability in sharing this. We're so glad you're here with us as part of our community.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience and for making such a kind offer to @aeonvoyage9725. We love our community and how you support each other so much.

@ukanyolerato7181 6 ай бұрын

I’m here because of an instagram reel.I loved the entire episode ,this is a good thing for the future generation to see a good example of a healthy friendship.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

So glad you found us. Hope to see you here going forward too!

@MisakiScarlet 6 ай бұрын

I wouldnt call that tough love, its just love.... beautiful conversation

@SOI-wl2lo 6 ай бұрын

Exactly

@danaemadama1560 6 ай бұрын

“I think I crowdsource my personality.” Resonated with me on a deeper level. Thank you for being this vulnerable and capturing this moment between the two of you, Jamey and Justin. This is a very special and eye opening episode about true love and friendship. I could go on and on but your conversations, including this one, have inspired me to better my human experience. I am sure they inspire others and will continue to do so. Thank you.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! So glad to hear that.

@avelikebrave 6 ай бұрын

This podcast alone can - and will - change the world. Best episode yet. As woman, it was soooooo healing to witness this. Thank you!!!

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@rootcanal7188 16 күн бұрын

when there is as much societal concern for men as there is for women, that will change the world.

@masegosongs 5 ай бұрын

Vulnerability amongst men should be normalized. You guys are adorable.💗

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

We agree!

@leonidd00 3 ай бұрын

Here we have healthy manhood. Love to listen to you guys. Thank you so much for this work you're doing.

@mwangiruthw 5 ай бұрын

Two wholesome guys openly and vulnerably sharing themselves to the world! Soo refreshing ❤ I love this episode.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@ginoambroise6559 6 ай бұрын

Oh man this episode talks to me so much and i'm.actually reflecting on a male friendship i have where everytime he hurts me i just keep my distance from him and plus he isn't someone who expresses himself to apologize but i see he's making effort so i don't want to be like someone that he can't rely on when he's bad that he will abandon him. Thank you so much for this one and it WAS ONE OF THE BEST FOR ME on man enough. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@wisdom9091 6 ай бұрын

Women no longer use emotional black mail to push male oppression or to turn a blind eye all problems caused by women because we value relationships with women

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@user-dn8qm3zx1o 6 ай бұрын

Justin, if your ratio of self doubt is even 5% you are superhuman! 👏🏻 Remember we came here for the contrast, the ego is only doing its job! It’s about acceptance of the whole! ❤

@BienvenidoMarquezBacsal 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for being open, honest, and vulnerable guys..i agree that if all guys will be this open..imagine how many childrens lives will be changed..

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

We agree!

@artfullyprompt 5 ай бұрын

i stumbled into a short excerpt on facebook from this discussion and had to hear it all, i subscribed on facebook but i needed to see your faces as you spoke, i watched here and subscribed and have a million things I want to say. First of all, you know that feeling of thankful relief that sets in when you are reminded that their is goodness in the world, their is happyness, and people that care about something beyond profit, beyond selfish pursuits, and its worth continuing to fight. I had this feeling the first time I watched brene brown on tedx houston give her famously infamous the power of vulnerability talk, which changed my life, and i cant help but wonder how much that one tedtalk influenced you guys today, as i type this its hilarious you are talking about vulnerability. Yup, broke me down with that whisper into your kids ears. Anyways, this is a thank you, i love you both with what i have seen in 20 minutes. The impact you are having on lives is nothing but positive and we need more people like you, your example is inspiring. If anyone on the show happens to see this, I would like to send an email to the show and suggest a topic. Lastly, Justin your childhood reminds me of my own, and i dont know if anyone has ever offered this information to you, but it sounds like the life of most gay guys i know that grew up in the late 90s for highschool, during dont ask dont tell. the way you describe how safe you felt, or how you became a chameleon for safety, it was uncanny. If I dont hear from anyone, i wish each and every one of you a wonderful holiday season and future good will. you have brightened my day/week withj such a beautiful display of what it really means to be human.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

So glad you found us and joined us! We really appreciate your thoughts, gratitude and sharing your own experience. You can always email us at info@manenough.com

@Anonymous_frog88 14 күн бұрын

Just beautiful. And courageous. Thank you for this. I hope this reaches a lot of men who need to hear this.

@wendye6500 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your vulnerability.

@biohaker6446 5 ай бұрын

Instagram reel brought me here. This conversation alone must be close to 500 on a Hawkins scale ;-) It's very uplifting. Thank you. I will call my friends and tell them how important they are to me.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

So glad you found us and hope to see you more going forward. Did you call your friends? If we can drive real, positive action in the world, we have done what we set out to do here.

@dharmafolks4554 6 ай бұрын

Justin, you should try chakra healing. The blockages in your chakras could be why it is hard for you to develop internal self-worth. And you should also look into your past lives because maybe the wounds stem from there.

@enritual 5 ай бұрын

I have to say, this is one of the most impactful podcast I’ve seen on my journey of understanding my own manhood and masculinity. We need more men speaking from their own vantage point of experience and paving a way for more to speak their truth. What an amazing journey. I appreciate you all for everything you do and are doing!

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing. It means the world to know that this connected to you like this. Keep going on that journey. We're so grateful to have you as part of our community.

@vasilkaludov 3 ай бұрын

Such a beautiful episode, thank you guys for being so real! Justin, you are indeed a man enough, brother!

@anthony11aamu 5 ай бұрын

Single handily one of the the most warmest beautiful heart to heart moments I have ever witnessed ☀️👌🏾 Ain’t nothing more courageous than love and vulnerability

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@Clnphotograph 5 ай бұрын

Y’all just f’d me right up

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Haha, hope you mean in a good way.

@joshuachurch100 4 ай бұрын

Man I can relate so much to justin, my father transplanted me to alaska as a kid and i become a sponge trying to absorb whatever i could that would make people like me. It made me become acutely aware of how much space i take up, both physically and emotionally. Pile that on top of an abusive parental figure in those formative years makes for an anxiety ridden depressed 37 year old boy still trying to find himself through the fog of other peoples experiences. Thank you for your vulnerability and honesty. It makes me a more complete person and helps me become a better father.

@zuzannacelej3185 5 ай бұрын

God, I'm never commenting youtube videos (to be fair I rarely watch any as well), but this...I have barely finished this episode and when i tell you i RUSHED to the comment section, I really mean it. I just have to tell you -- but first let me apologize for any mistakes, english is not my first language -- that this conversation that you had here and this podcast overall is just beautiful. I literally make notes while listening to those episodes, becuase you say so many good stuff here that I want to remember and be able to come back over and over again. And I was listening to you talking and I was thinking, literally, I am completely honest: "wow, human beaings can be beuatiful. Men can be so beautiful.". Thank you for this. For this one episode but also this podcast as a whole. I am recommending it to all my friends. It's really moving me, I have tears in my eyes while listening to almost every episode. And I am so greatful that you've let us listen to you love each other, how Jamey called it. Really, I have zero experiences with men talk like that to me, to each other, to anyone in real life. i started listening to this podcast because I wanted to regain hope in men, I wanted to better understand you as a group, what you are going through, what you are struggling with, see what I wasn't able to see before. And this podcast is giving all of this to me and more and it's so refreshing and so so so much needed. Thank you so much and please, continue to do what you are doing if you can, becuase it's really changing people's lives and minds and we, as humankind, really need change in this direction

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you. That means so much to us. Maybe you can try speaking to another man this way and start getting the same love in return. You clearly deserve it!

@gwenadams4509 6 ай бұрын

You Two Guys are SoooooAwesome.....With All your Faults you Are Able Open Up and Share with Other Men and Women to help you and others better people...May God Continue to Bless You and Your Families Always.And Never Loose Your Faith as That is Where you Draw Your Strength From🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@hannayalpo 5 ай бұрын

Oh, my goodness! I could sense my mirror neurons at work, empathizing with both of you and profoundly moved by your authentic expression of love. I believe this is one of the most impactful episodes you've ever produced. The love you conveyed during the recording now transcends time and space, and it feels so genuine that even as a witness, it's palpable. Thank you

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! So glad it resonated. We were all crying in the room as we were recording. So happy you're part of our community.

@busisiwefukweni 24 күн бұрын

I saw the reel on Instagram and I had to look it on youtube. I loved the conversation and I relate more with what Justin has said about him growing up.

@richardbrathwaite9354 6 ай бұрын

A beautiful, heartfelt conversation. Thank you for this. ❤

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@sheyneyansin7627 5 ай бұрын

I absolutely love this podcast... thank you for filling me with hope that there are safe men out there who are working on themselves and are uplifting one another ❤ it also gives me the opportunity as a woman to ask myself how can I contribute to providing safe spaces for the men in my life. Thank you.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! So glad it's resonating and helpful to you, personally.

@n0921791 6 ай бұрын

This is excellent!

@melissathomas2314 Ай бұрын

Looking around for the onions😭 This is SO amazing, love your relationship! Inspiring❤

@clarabarra2231 4 ай бұрын

So important to see two men be man enough to tell each other they are. 💛💛

@liviuT 5 ай бұрын

This is my first episode from you guys and what can i say... i cried a little sometimes. I am a man and to see this beautiful friendship and to be open like that...poof blew my mind. In my country people are not really like that,and this podcast was like a breath of fresh air,i know is hard to open like that to someone..but you guys did it like professionals,and that s big,i get too emotional sometimes i don t know why,because i express them from my soul. Anyway,thank you...i wish i could meet people like you so positive and smart,but i will watch more podcast from now😁 i want to be better🙏🏼 Love you guys.🫱🏻‍🫲🏼

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us. Keep putting this out there in the world and you will find guys that meet it. So many want this and are just scared or told that it's unacceptable.

@sarahjackson1897 6 ай бұрын

What a beautiful friendship and real friendship.

@Laiaalvarez1998 5 ай бұрын

The vulnerability you get to share with each other, the way you look in each other's eyes and express those beautiful and deeply felt words about the other is truly moving. I want to experience that. I want to keep trying to create and be part of friendships like this one. It's very special... Thank you for sharing!

@kdarkwa06 6 ай бұрын

such a profound episode wow!

@vanhoudtshoorn 6 ай бұрын

Two wonderful gems. Thank you for this great podcast❤

@vikkienos6807 6 ай бұрын

Wonderful- thank you both on so many levels. 💟

@pambagby5593 6 ай бұрын

Thank you both for sharing your vulnerability! This is a Powerful!

@donaldlang8530 6 ай бұрын

Jamey and Justin I just wish both of you are my friends. You guys seem like some genuine guys and it makes long for good male relationships even more!!!

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us as part of our community. Kind of like being friends with them.

@pamk1967 6 ай бұрын

This was raw and Beautiful #RealMen❤❤✌🏾

@adrianav5534 6 ай бұрын

What a lovely wholesome episode! Aww how sweet and amazing. I wish everyone had these kind of friendships, especially those who really need it.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@anamiguelhg 5 ай бұрын

I needed this. Thank you ❤

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@sonnyg80 6 ай бұрын

Man that hit so many emotions as I'm going through so many feelings in my head the past couple weeks. Refreshing and really let myself just let go of the tears and smile through your guys' words. Appreciate it.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@brothersupholstery6354 6 ай бұрын

My favorite episode!

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@rightfitpropertiesllc2267 5 ай бұрын

Love love everything about this episode.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@anam.chisilita2659 6 ай бұрын

…aaaaand I’m crying. Beautiful conversation,guys! Thank you for making this episode. Beautiful.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@lyddabenedict476 6 ай бұрын

Such a beautiful episode 😘

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@MarianBacol 6 ай бұрын

More of this in the world!! ❤❤❤

@Kc1250 5 ай бұрын

Wow. This is so amazing. Thank you!

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@anygoodimaydopocast 6 ай бұрын

You've got a new fan in Canada. Very good episode, led me to start going back and listening to your older ones. Men need more of this stuff, I think.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

So glad you found us. Welcome to our community.

@marylouschwartz3025 6 ай бұрын

Sharing this !! ❤ this was deeply moving and profound

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@BreonnaJanai 5 ай бұрын

This is so powerful!! I came here because of IG & I’m so thankful that I stumbled across that video. I love the friendship you guys have and even more glad that you guys had a chance to give each other your flowers before it’s too late. Love this!!!

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for joining us! So glad you found us and hope you subscribe so you don't miss it from now on.

@linavictoriapersson4662 5 ай бұрын

moved to tears from beginning till end of conversation 💜 Thank you

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Wonderful to hear. Thank YOU

@Allie_M 6 ай бұрын

My heart feels so warm and full after watching this episode ❤ Thank you for sharing, I’m so thankful for the work you do and hope that some day, more and more of us will be able to be as open with our emotions and our love for each other as humans.. The world would be a better place for it

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@florianerempp7826 5 ай бұрын

you guys are enough ❤❤❤ so grateful for this friendship and conversation so much! thanks for sharing this with us! love this podcast, so inspiring!

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! So glad you're here with us.

@annalynn870 6 ай бұрын

This was so, so beautiful. Thank you for sharing this with us

@laurenross2943 5 ай бұрын

Wow!! What a beautiful episode this was. And my first one that I've watched. Justin, your childhood story is so relatable because that was exactly me and now I'm on that journey of healing which is not the easiest one. I appreciate the vulnerability displayed by you both. Somehow makes me feel less lonely. Thank you!

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for joining us! Glad it resonated and hope to see you here more going forward.

@_TheRam 2 ай бұрын

This is really powerful (and interesting)

@CoachKev-yv2er 5 ай бұрын

That was an incredible conversation thank you

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@anfeda 6 ай бұрын

Amazing

@kentforbes2000 6 ай бұрын

Simply beautiful.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@tinamchale6556 6 ай бұрын

I am raising 2 boys. One is almost 18 and the other is 2 and a half. I only hope I can raise them to be open and loving like this

@timkellyD2R 4 ай бұрын

Teach them to be masculine men. "Vulnerability" is not a productive male trait. Never has been.

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Power to you! Keep that intention and you will.

@JohnHandemPiette 5 ай бұрын

Aww Loved this, fellas 🙌🏽❤

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Glad you're here with us.

@creinhartzdeinhar4194 6 ай бұрын

Amazing i cry i feel the same sometimes

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you're here with us.

@chumamajova5503 3 ай бұрын

Love from South Africa ♥️😭🇿🇦

@hopecanaday5287 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for these important conversations. I was wondering if anyone at the Man Enough Podcast has reviewed the book How Can I get Through to You by Terrence Real? Is it a helpful quality book or not?

@WeAreManEnough 4 ай бұрын

Thank you. We aren't in a position to give an opinion on that book, so we recommend that you find reviews from reputable journalists.