👑 THE MESSIAH MAY BE A DESCENDANT OF JECONIAS 👑 According to the genealogy in Matthew 1:12, Jesus is a descendant of Jechoniah . But God said to Jeconiah in Jeremiah 22:24 and 22:30: As surely as I live, "declares the LORD," even if you, Jehoiakim son of Jehoiakim, king of Judah, were a signet ring on my right hand, I would still bring you out. This is what the LORD says: "Mark this man as having no sons, a man who will not prosper in his lifetime, for none of his descendants will prosper, none will sit on the throne of David or rule any more in Judah." Since no descendant of Jeconiah could sit on the throne, if Jesus is a descendant of this king, he is disqualified to be the Messiah. If true, what is Jeconiah doing in the genealogy of Jesus in Matthew's gospel? And how can Jesus qualify to be the Messiah? First of all, we have to wonder why Matthew would ever have included Jeconiah among Jesus' ancestors if this obviously disqualified Jesus from being the Messiah. In fact, the Scriptures show that those words ➡️ WERE ONLY SHORT-TERM, IF NOT TOTALLY REVERSE BY GOD.⬅️ There are five parts to these words to Jeconiah (who is also called Jehoiakim or Coniah): 1. "that he would have no children" (this is how the Hebrew text literally reads). 2. "...a man who would not prosper in his days...." 3. "...no man of his seed shall prosper..." 4. 4. "...none shall sit upon the throne of David, and shall rule any more in Judah." 5. From verse 27, "...there they shall not return." Scripture shows that, in fact, none of these happened. ➡️ Although the Hebrew literally says, "Note this childless man," Jechoniah did in fact have children. The descendants of Jehoiachin the captive: Shealtiel his son, Malchiram, Pedaiah, Shenazzar, Jekamiah, Hoshama, and Nedabiah. - 1 Chronicles 3: 17-18 And their sons also had offspring. ➡️ He prospered in his day. In the thirty-seventh year of the exile of Jehoiakim king of Judah, in the year that Evil-Merodach began to reign in Babylon, he released Jehoiachin from prison on the twenty-seventh day of the twelfth month. He spoke kindly to him and gave him a seat of honor higher than those of the other kings who were with him in Babylon. And he changed his prisoner's garments for him, and ate always before him all the days of his life. And his food was given him daily from the king continually all the days of his life. - 2 Kings 25: 27-30 ➡️ His grandson Zerubbabel prospered and ruled. Zechariah 4:7 Who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain; and he shall bring forth his head with shouting, crying, Grace, grace unto it. Zerubbabel, of the seed of Jeconiah, prospered. In fact, the very words God used in rejecting Jeconiah were deliberately used in establishing Zerubbabel. "As surely as I live," declares the LORD, "though you, Jehoiakim son of Jehoiakim, king of Judah, were a SEAL RING on my right hand, yet I would still take you out. - Jeremiah 22:24 "In that day," declares the LORD of hosts, "I will take you, my servant Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel," declares the LORD, "and I will make you as my SEALING RING, for I have chosen you," declares the LORD Almighty." - Haggai 2:23 Although Zerubbabel did not sit on the throne as king, the fact that Haggai 2:23 uses the same terminology as Jeremiah 22:24 shows that Haggai intended to indicate a reversal of the curse. We have to conclude that in Jeremiah 22:30 , "in his lifetime" qualifies the following phrases, and "for" explains that no descendant of his will prosper and rule during his lifetime. ➡️"...sit on the throne of David, and RULING MORE IN JUDAH". Haggai 2:21 Speak unto Zerubbabel, RULER OF JUDAH, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth; Zerubbabel, of the seed of Jeconiah, did not sit on the throne of David, but he did rule in Judah. ➡️ From verse 27, "...there they shall not return." Ezra 2:1-2 These are the children of the province that came up out of the captivity, of those that were carried away, whom Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon carried away to Babylon, and they returned to Jerusalem and Judah, every man to his own city; who came with Zerubbabel: Zerubbabel, of the seed of Jeconiah, returned. ............. Some will say, the curse of Jeconiah is still in force and was not removed because Zerubbabel was governor but not King of Judah. But that has an explanation, God promised that after the deportation to Babylon, the next one to be king would not be the closest descendant after returning to the Land, but that the Reign would begin with the future Messiah, who will reign forever. Ezekiel 21:25-27 25 "And as for you, O prince of Israel, infamous and wicked, your day has come; the hour of your punishment is imminent! 26 Thus says the Lord Almighty: Take off your turban, renounce your crown, for everything will change. The lowly will be exalted and the lofty will be humbled. 27 Ruins, ruins, I will turn everything into ruins! This will not happen ➡️ UNTIL HE (Messiah) comes to whom the right is given, and whom I will ask to establish justice.

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Thank you Rabbi .

Rabbi Singer knocks another one out of the park!

Thank you Rabbi Singer!! We are blessed to have you in our lives 🙏🙏🙏

I don't understand why we are entertaining this at all. By the very statements in both Matthew and Luke Jesus has no biological father he is conceive by the holy spirit. The Messiah is to be from the Davidic line. Since the man provides the tribal connection and Jesus has none then he is automatically disqualified.

Excellent Teaching! Glory be to God!

I recommend Tovia Singer to everyone to understand the truth and expose the lies.

Thanks

Todah Rabba!

What is actually the name of the singer at the end of the show?

Absolutely enlightening. This is an excellent teaching! You are such a patient and wise teacher! Baruch HaShem!

We have a problem rabbi. Israel and Judah were separated and became distinct nations around 900BC. Israel was taken captive in 700BC about the time a certain Isaiah the prophet was writing about a certain suffering servant - Israel - not Judah. Messiah said "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel" (Matthew 15:24), but never said anything about Judah. As the Messiah King of Israel, and thus Head of the suffering servant identified in Isaiah as Israel, not Judah, I suspect those "lost tribes" of Israel have been the primary receivers of Him as the Living Ark, High Priest, and Mediator of the New Covenant God promised Israel and Judah over the past 2000 years. He came first as High Priest in love and mercy to cleanse His people to prepare them before He comes again as King in Judgment and restoration. Your people are looking for a Messiah King having rejected Him as High Priest and the sacrifice He offered. As an Israelite and son of Abraham I would strongly urge you and your people to receive the promised covenant and be washed from your sins before that day.

With no oral tradition you can't even get the Bible. With no oral tradition you can't get the Hebrew language, what it is, what it says.

Thank you Rabbi Tovia Singer for the in-depth explanation about Jeconiah and the scandal around his name being in the genealogy of jezeus in the book of Matthew. False christian theology simply explodes when you carefully explain the truth from multiple angles. I thank HaShem for your wisdom and pray that you, your family, and Am Israel stay strong and blessed.

This is another proof that Rabbi Singer one of the greatest Tanach scholars ever. I love learning Rabbi Singer's Divrei Torah because he gives such profound Shiurim. We are truly blessed to have him. May the true Moshiach arrive speedily- in the merit of Rabbeinu Tovia Singer.

A time is coming when all Israel shall behold the One whose hands and side were pierced and you shall mourn and weep bitterly over him. Zechariah 12:10.

WoW great explanation Tovia very strong point on jaconias

Amazing!

Yes! Love it!

Christian’s should always respond with love, no matter how difficult it may be, we are called to be disciples of love. Repentance is a lifetime exercise of the faith. St. Paul speaks directly of another tenet of Saying: “Faith without works is dead”. Rabbi, I am not sure what Christian(s) you have spoken too, but you may choose to live under the Law, it is not easy to adhere to all Law. But, it is your success & failure in living by the law is what you shall be judged. I hope you have a Happy Hanukkah my friend. With much love, Timothy from Tallahassee, Florida 🌞🌴

Ok, peace be you my friend.

Please pray for peace & love

I enjoy your videos. I knew Jesus could not have been the Messiah, but you bring out a lot of details that I didnt know before

❤ Another great teaching, I did not know that... thank you and bless you and your family. Stay safe in these dangerous times my dear rabbi. We shall prevail,more of us than them. Baruch Hashem!❤

@Rabbi Tovia Singer - I am not Hebrew, but I do take interest in the clause מִזַּרְעוֹ after watching your video. Is this to be interpreted as "all descendants henceforth" OR "immediate descendants?" You mentioned in your podcast here that the Talmud states that Jeconiah was forgiven. IF that is true, and IF all scripture remains scripture and is in effect permanently (talking about the Torah here), wouldn't it make more sense to say that the curse only EVER applied to Jeconiah's immediate descendants, and that Matthew and the Talmud are simply in agreement with each other regarding the possibility of a descendant being able to sit on the throne of David? In other words, instead of looking at it as Christians using the Talmud to save themselves, there was simply a historic misunderstanding of Jeremiah to begin with, regardless of Christian's lack of use of Talmud.

Hello Mr. Singer, nice to see you again. I can't understand the first problem you have with the geneology in Matthew because you say the answer directly in the video. Whether his sin was forgiven or not, it doesn't matter in this context because Jesus was born of a virgin and this curse (whether it is there or not doesn't matter) doesn't apply. I personally don't see any problem with that, but you can correct me if im wrong. Regarding your next statement, that according to the Christian perspective he could not be forgiven is not understandable to me. In the new testament we find examples of how people are forgiven (even before Jesus' crucifixion) I can think of a lot of examples. One of them is the thief who was crucified next to Jesus. He admitted that Jesus was crucified for no reason and repented without baptism without the Eucharist without sacrifice Jesus promised him paradise, also the story of the Samaritan and many more and that is exactly what we are taught in the church. I can also explain to you what the crucifixion of Jesus is and what it means to us Christians just if you want. Also don't forget that God says in the Old Testament "all souls are mine" who God forgives or how God judges is something god alone knows , we dont have the right to judge about the destiny or sins of others you find this in the letters of the New Testament and the old testament. Unfortunately, I didn't understand your last point and would be grateful if you could explain it to me in more detail Much love a random orthodox Christian❤

Thank you rabbi tovia singer, God hashem bless you more and more.

So many different issues with matthew and luke's genealogies. New testament shouldnt of given any genealogy for jesus or said he was born from a virgin birth, then we wouldnt have any geneology complaints with the NT.

Sabbath Shalom

Thank you Tovia. Where in Talmud can I find something written about "Curse on Coniah" (Yechonyah) in Mt 1:11-12? Why is God to be appeased (atoning with human blood sacrifice offering)? For Christians only, perhaps.

I wish I knew how to explain things to people the way you explain them. You make it so clear, but I don’t know how to do this myself. Christians always want me to explain everything chapter and verse and I’m not very good at that. But thank you so much for your videos. I really appreciate you 🩷

Shalom Rabbi Singer !! Great Tanakh study once again. Keep up the great work exposing the hypocrisy of a pagan man made religion Christianity. Keep serving as a light to the nations… ✨🤗✨

Yeshayahu 53 describes a man who gave his life as a sacrifice for the sins of God's people and then lives again...how can anyone possibly deny this?

Brilliant!

I’m ordering the books as the missionaries won’t leave me alone. Best rabbi for us to teach us the truth.

Tovia, as a Catholic, they preach to repent and one can go to a confession to a Priest. Now the Pentacostals that I understand dont believe that you have to repent once Jesus did it for us, which is baseless and ignorant. Now we all know that anyone can repent before Hashem personally if want to. Now I have never been a fan of Paul, to me he does not have his feet onnthe ground, he gets carried away and leaves out the Jewish roots. Enjoy your vids and I like to see things from your perspective. Also in the NT it states faith without works is dead. Think that was Paul but somehow some verses are contradictory. Best to you. Australia

I love Brooklyn ❤❤❤ Best place in NY . Especially bagel 🥯 shops and Jewish restaurants.

Jewish messiah vs Christian messiah...it's definitely going to be exciting

This Rabbi is right! I'm very thankful for these teachings

Thank you rabbi

The Lineage of Joseph is in Matthew and in THIS lineage is the cursed King. Which proves that Jesus is NOT Joseph's son. BUT...he is not in Mary's lineage which is found in Luke. Jesus was born of Mary, but with not father.

I am learning so can you explain what is the difference between the Tanakh and Talmud?

Beautiful Rabbi

I’ve read a Christian article once saying that Jesus has inherited everything through Mary’s father adopting Joseph but then also saying that the curse of Jeconiah is a blood curse and thus does not pertain to Jesus. They can’t have their cake and eat it too.

Tovia Singer, Tovia Singer, Why persecute thou me?

What I do not understand is why Peter and Paul argue about doctrine but at no point did Peter invest in an official testomy of Jesus.

Personally I would call this “check mate” against Christianity. There are so many issues, but this is one of the Top 5 for me

What I've never heard addressed is the conflict with who father Shealtiel, who was the father of Zerubbabel. Matthew and Luke show different fathers for Shealtiel. How is that not a problem??? 🤔

What about David was he cursed and about Jeshuha saying that He was before abraham john 8:58

Curses dont uphold on Gods anointed one. In 1 Samuel 17:43, where Goliath cursed David by invoking his demonic Gods against David, didn't work because he was invading territory possessed by God and protected by the Lord of Hosts, the armies of Israel. And in 2 Samuel, chapter 16 Shimei who was of the house of Saul came and cursed David and his curse was unsuccessful because he was touching the Lord's anointed.

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If you say, Jesus cannot be a messiah since he is from the cursed lineage of Jeconiah, who exactly is not cursed in the house of David after David? Solomon was cursed so Jeroboam took away 10 tribes from him. So isn't the house of David since Solomon all cursed? So, if you are waiting for another messiah from biological lineage of David, which you have been doing for the last 2000 years, how can you expect a messiah from a cursed lineage of house of David since Solomon? Do you have an answer to this? Also, has any Jews kept their genealogy while they were scattered all over the world for the last 2000 years? Not likely while they are scattered all over the world mixed with all kinds of races for 2000 years. So, if someone comes along and claims to be a messiah, how do you even confirm he came from the cursed biological lineage of Solomon? Seriously, can anyone answer this?

Consider the rule given for the daughters of Zelephehad and that Mary and Joseph are both from the tribe of Judah.

I guess the cursed lineage is the issue we are dealing with nowadays re: Jerry Zivic.

I thank you Rabbi Singer for the lessons you teach your audience. HaShem has chosen you at this time to teach His children. Amen to the Father

John 5 [37] And the Father that sent me, he hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his form. [38] And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he sent, him ye believe not. [39] Ye search the scriptures, because ye think that in them ye have eternal life; and these are they which bear witness of me; [40] and ye will not come to me, that ye may have life. [41] I receive not glory from men. [42] But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in yourselves. [43] I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. [44] How can ye believe, who receive glory one of another, and the glory that cometh from the only God ye seek not? [45] Think not that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, on whom ye have set your hope. [46] For if ye believed Moses, ye would believe me; for he wrote of me. [47] But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? nothing new under the sun

Who is The Tenak speaking about when it says though has prepared me a body in the deepest parts of the earth? " some think the embryo of the messiah was prepared from Adam when G-d took the rib to create Eve, The Rhua Hakodesh then implanted that Embryo in Mariame which became Yeshua" what say you?

If Joseph was indeed Yeshua's father this boat might float. However the presence of the Holy Messenger(Archangel Gabriel)to explain to Mary of her Immaculate Conception and to Joseph as to his role as well, the paternal lineage extends up to heaven, not back to ancient Judea. His mother's lineage to the house of David is without question. I believe Christ was half mortal and half divine. I also believe that the quote from the Gospel of Didymus Thomas, Yeshua said, "Those who interpret the meanings of these sayings will find eternal life." And one of my favorites is "Woe to the spirit that relies on the flesh and woe to the flesh that relies on the spirit." Blessed be the heavenly host. Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost!!!

Moses received the entire Torah from God, both the Written Torah (the Five Books of Moses) and the Oral Torah. The Oral Torah is the explanation of all the commandments, which are very concisely recorded in those Five Books: 613 for Jews and the 7 for Gentiles.

This is really one of the reason why jesus is not the Messiah..it's been repeated for years and yet xtians still don't get it..the TaNaKh itself is so accurate that every claim of xtians is so falsifiable..so sad for xtianity..they lost it all..for they don't have it in the first place

Question for the Jews: what's the salvation plan in Judaism? How is the messiah going to bless all nations? The prophesied one through Abrahams seed. What will he do when he arrives? I just wish to compare it to the Christian gospel.

Matthew 16:16 In-Context 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” 17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven

Hashem is Emet. May all truth seekers find Tovia

Question what would tovia say ? is he a descendant of abraham? sarah or hagar? so is yeshua the lineage of maria and she is of David. the geonalagy proofs that Joseph can't be the physical father becouse no messiah can come of his lineage like it says in this video about jeconiah. it proofs that yeshua had no earthly father and comes from the lineage of maria like someone would claim to come from sarah. it's the woman. shalom

Peace, As surely as I live,' declares the LORD, 'even if you, Jehoiachin son of Jehoiakim king of Judah, were a signet ring on my right hand, I would still pull you off. Jeremiah 22:24 But later... 'On that day,' declares the LORD Almighty, 'I will take you, my servant Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel,' declares the LORD, 'and I will make you like my signet ring, for I have chosen you,' declares the LORD Almighty.' Haggai 2:23 God cursed line of Jehoiachin, but then calls his grandson signet ring. God cursed and God also provided a way to redeem. Messiah is not biological son of Joseph who is a descendant of Jehoiachin. But same time Messiah is considered son of Joseph as earthly father. Mary and Joseph were both descendants of King David to whom God promised.... and that the LORD may keep his promise to me: ‘If your descendants watch how they live, and if they walk faithfully before me with all their heart and soul, you will never fail to have a successor on the throne of Israel.’ 1 Kings 2:4 God does not change His mind. God already knew that He would bless grandson of Jehoiachin at the moment He cursed Jehoiachin. God does not break His promise. No one from human orgin ruled Israel from the House of King David. Only one to rule is Messiah who came from God as the word of God. If we are unfaithful, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny who he is. 2 Timothy 2:13 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.” Revelation 22:16 The root of King David rules the house of King Daivd. No one born from human orgin has ruled the house of King David. Grandson of Jehoiachin was not a King, but a caretaker. God promised King Daivd will never fail to have a heir to seat on the throne of Israel and God fulfilled it. Praise be to Holy God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. In the Holy and Almighty name of Jesus the Messiah. Amen✡️✝️❤️🙏🤲

Baruch HaShem 🙏🏽✨❤️✡️📿

Christian doctrine is its own own worst enemy. Great video and more exposure to the big roman lie

Just like in Judaism, also in Islam, Allah forgives those who truly repent. Again similarities between Judaism & Islam but different in Christianity.

It doesn’t mean Jesus can’t be the Messiah, it simply means that Matthew might be wrong concerning his genealogy. The New Testament is not a reliable source of Jesus nativity as the two accounts we have completely disagree with each other. I do believe that the nativity accounts were added much later in an attempt to make Jesus more like a Roman king so people would take him more serious in a world where every Caesar was a virgin birth heralded by a celestial sign. The question however arises if any of the two genealogies is correct or none?

A sincere question, what is the true lineage of the Messiah according to the Tanakh? Taking into account Adonai's condition on the lineage through Solomon remaining being upon the keeping of His commandments, which many of the kings, including Solomon himself, failed to do

All have sinned and fall shot of the glory of God. Since the fall of Adam & Eve, humanity sinned and destined to perish in hell..But the love and grace of God provided us a sinless Messiah- Jesus Christ- Yeshua - born of a virgin who was the fulfillment of the prophesies given by the prophets hundreds of years before His birth. He is the Son of God and Son of man - a perfect Lamb of God who died that took away our sins to redeem us from our slavery to sin that we shall be reconciled with God and have eternal life. Those who accepted and believed in Him ( Jesus- Yeshua) were given the rights to become children of God as written in the Book of John.

The message? If you want to remain a Christian, don't delve too deeply into the bible. Things don't go well when you go deep.

12:42, no Gamaliel, in Acts 5, precisely _didn't_ say that: *34 But one in the council rising up, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, respected by all the people, commanded the men to be put forth a little while 35 And he said to them: Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do, as touching these men. 36 For before these days rose up Theodas, affirming himself to be somebody, to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all that believed him were scattered, and brought to nothing. 37 After this man, rose up Judas of Galilee, in the days of the enrolling, and drew away the people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as consented to him, were dispersed. 38 And now, therefore, I say to you, refrain from these men, and let them alone; for if this council or this work be of men, it will come to nought; 39 But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it, lest perhaps you be found even to fight against God. And they consented to him* Two of his disciples are mentioned as Apostles, one explicitly in the Bible: *And he saith: I am a Jew, born at Tarsus in Cilicia, but brought up in this city, at the feet of Gamaliel, taught according to the truth of the law of the fathers, zealous for the law, as also all you are this day* [Acts Of Apostles 22:3] OUR oral law says that St. Barnabas also was a disciple of Gamaliel. At least one believable version of it even says that Gamaliel died as a Christian, and that means he is now in Heaven, adoring Jesus, and honouring His Blessed Mother. And if YOUR oral law says the words in Acts 5 are spurious, then we say, that is part of why your oral law, _as you have it now,_ is tainted, and part of a coverup.

the argument that God couldnt forgive sin pre-christ because somehow that would undo or be contrary to what was accomplished later is about as dumb as it gets.

Rabbi, as a muslim, I believe that being messiah is like being prophet in jews history. I deeply believe that jesus was the messiah in his time but not the messiah you were expecting. Last messiah will be a king messiah and I hope his arrival is near.

WOW...I'm SO impressed!!! I never thought I would see such a thing as this...The Bible states that there will be people who disbelieve, mock and falsely preach about Lord Jesus....and here you all are! How can you say "Glory to God" when you insult him in Lord Jesus' name?

Is there anything in the Bible &/or Torah that we are to read literally vs literary? What parts truly happened & what parts are more poetic? Did Moses really part the sea? Did Elijah really just disappear? I just want to know when I read that I do so with the correct understanding of a lesson behind the words or it's simply literally true stories from real people.

What about thr geneology in Luke 3? There is no Jeconiah there but there is a previous Jesus and Joseph before Jesus Christ which leaves questions regarding names. Also, in The Complete Jewish Bible, Jeconiah appears to he Y'khanyahu which would have to be translated as Jeconiah for Tovia Singer to be correct. Again, there is an issue with names. Anyway, this is what I have.

I'm gonna unsubcribe from this channel, for awhile or so. Yes your talk about Monotheism is enlightening, but at it is now I cannot accept your view about Isa/Jesus not being messiah.

מה אם אני אומר לכם שרוח הקודש מנחמת את הבן כפי שהאב מנחם את בנו בהנחת ידו על ראשו ואומר שלום

I left Borough Park to go to Brooklyn Tech. But came right back. F train. Ditmas Ave to Fulton Street.

I have a question: In the Soncino edition of Talmud, Sukkah 52a. the rabbis speak of a slain Messiah son of Joseph over whom the people weeping "look on the him because they have thrust him through and mourn for him as one mourns for a only son" and a Messiah son of David who sees Messiah son of Joseph slain, when asked by God that he can ask for anything, only asks for life.. Who are they discussing?

So Tovia answer me this. You are looking for a Messiah from the line of David, right. So who will he come through, David, Solomon and then who? Give us his expected lineage please.

9:59 one little addition to this superb video. In the spirit of viewing the New Testament as “literature”, and given that Matthew’s author was Jewish and familiar with both written and Oral Law far more than gentiles, we cannot out rule the simple observation that Matthew’s author, familiar with the Talmudic reference to Jeconiah’s forgiveness, believed the curse was therefore lifted. In his mind (however wrong he may be) he clearly felt justified (by the Talmud) in saying this lineage was legal.

It seems to me then that both prophecies were fulfilled. The one where no seed of his would be, given it came from Joseph’s side as Gd would be the lineage and it still come to pass if as as you say the Talmud speaks that he did repent. But as an adoption similar to Jeconiah himself. It also reminds me of the story of Rehab and how David came from lineage of a prostitute or cursed woman. It also reminds me of Tamar’s deception. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing these interesting findings!

In Genesis Rabbah, the Sages show that the toledot/ "generations" in the Tanakh point to the promised Mashiach, especially the first and last in their defective morphology. For, it is the "Son of Perez" who will restore the fallen creation. Thus, the generations of _______ formula recounts the sons who will be covered by the blessing of "the Son" and Heir of the family, ha Mashiach. So, Matthew's purpose is to show the "generations" of the sons of Abraham, even the sons following the "deportation to Babylon," are all members of the generations to whom are given this Mashiach (Matt. 1:17). Jews point out that Jesus is not the biological descendant of Jeconiah because Joseph is his step-father rather than biological father. Rather, the Lord God promises (like Judah and Boaz before him) to "raise up Seed" for David from David's own body. Thus, Jesus is a direct descendant of David by God's redemptive act of yibbum/ geullah. (see 2 Samuel 7:12).

9:27 It doesn't even mean I've never been in a Calvinist Church in my life. I have visited one, outside service hours. Dito for a synagogue, or perhaps a second time too, in school later on. But your problem means you have not consulted Catholics about Christian theology, only Calvinists. If you know anything about Chronology, that Calvinists are the newcomers and Catholics the homeboys in the Christian field is even clearer than for Rohoboam to be continuing and Jeroboam to be breaking the covenant with Moses. It's more comparable to the difference between the temple and those, illegally, worshipping on the hills.

Was just one short of the 613th thumbs up 😉

14:03 Three sets of fourteen is not necessarily one missing. Two sets could overlap in one person or not. Also, there could be two Jechonias, as mentioned. But the deletions of people are for injustice, Jechonias not being deleted, if the father of Salathiel was the same as the unjust king, would mean St. Matthew _accepted_ the oral law saying that Jechonias was forgiven. So, St. Matthew is an earlier source for this than the Talmud as a whole. Why was Jehoiacim deleted? My friend in Tasmania believes that Jehoiacim was the _very_ unrighteous Haman, if I recall his theory correctly. So, everyone who is deleted is deleted for a curse, the generations after Athaliah, and Jehoiacim if he was Haman.

The Throne of David is a metaphor. It means he will be a Jewish King whether Jews accept him or not. God is not narrow minded, He plans salvation for all man he happens to choose the line of Jacob; which God intentionally created from two old people. The blood is the important thing. Even if there is a little bit of Jacob's blood nothing is broken. Unlike the Jews who will look at it through their legalistic lense

When the house of Israel split with Judah, the kings of Israel were Divinely appointed, not after David's lineage. Even 100 years after Israel rebelled against Judah and was "lost" the Father says through Jeremiah, "I am a Father to Israel and Ephraim is my firstborn son." The part Gentile, part Hebrew ADOPTED son if Jacob inherited all that is the house of Israel, blessings and curses to His enemies. Yeshua, like David, is the Chosen and Annointed Mediator, High Priest, and King of Israel. He is the Firstborn Son, the inheritor of the promises to Abraham. Curse Him or those who are His and you suffer as plainly show in those who have cursed the most.

Jechonias (or Joachin), mentioned in Jeremias 22:30, was delivered from prison by Evilmerodach and entertained as a prince (4 Kings 25:27). Jechonias did not die in prison without issue. Information from the Historical and Chronological Index of the Douay-Rheims Bible.

If there is such a thing as "The" Messiah, then "The" title goes to Aaron. -Psalm 133:2 - As the good oil on the head runs down upon the beard, the beard of Aaron, which runs down on the mouth of his garments.

Shalom Br, You are very good in talking but Read PROVERBS.10:19

6:21 _"they don't believe in the oral law of the Jews"_ Yes, _we do._ We just believe that while the Talmud was being recorded, you were changing it while you were rejecting the true Christ. Example of Christians believing in the oral law of the Jews, St. Paul mentions the magician adversaries of Moses as Jannes and Jambres or Jannes and Mambres. This is not from the books of the Tanakh, even our extended version, 7 books more, Tobit says the friends of Job were kings, which the book of Job doesn't, but the _only_ reference to Jannes and Mambres I find is in 2 Timothy 3:8. The NT mentions at least two Yanukas. 1) Our Lord (who at age 12 impressed one generation of Pharisees, it was the next one which rejected him); 2) St. Timothy. Possibly also Sts Paul and Barnabas, both disciples of Gamaliel. Would Gamaliel have taken anything less than Yanukas for students? So, we accept the oral laws of the Jews, but believe they are better preserved in Roman Catholicism than in the Talmud. We also accept there was a secret oral law, which is better preserved in Roman Catholicism than in the Zohar.

14 Tevet 2023. 5:43. The lineage of Jesus is blessed because the prophet of Jehovah, Haggai, is Simon, the Zealot apostle of Jesus. And the word of Jehovah by Haggai the prophet came unto Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest, saying. After being carried away to Babylon, Jechoniah begat Shealtiel, and Shealtiel begat Zerubbabel. In the Tanakh, Zerubbabel is the son of Shealtiel, and Yehoshua is the high priest. (Haggai 1:1) In the Evangelio, Zerubbabel is the son of Shealtiel, and Iesous is the high priest. (Matthew 1:12-16) (Hebrews 4:14-16) This is why the lineage of Jesus is blessed: He is the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, who is the son of Jechoniah. Fear not, for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered abroad. (Zechariah 13:7) (Mark 14:27) (Zechariah 13:7) Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith Jehovah of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered; and I will turn my hand upon the little ones. (Mark 14:27) And Jesus saith unto them, All ye shall be offended: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered abroad.

Jesus began his ministry by saying to repent because the kingdom of God is at hand. So, how is it that you say that repentance is meaningless in Christianity.

Jesus was in the line of David according to the law, but according to power He was the Son of God, and God would never break His Own law. Jesus was son of Joseph, son of David but the Son of God our Father. But I do not expect most Jewish people to find this because they still have eyes that do not see, ears that do not hear and a heart that does not understand. This will be removed one day and they will see, hear and understand and receive Jesus into their hearts but not yet, the Jewish people are still chosen just not yet saved from their sin.

People are not alone in prison. Other prisoners are usually there as well as well as guards. Plus his wife would have protested that it was not a good time for her to be with Jeconiah so as far as I'm concerned, this is a bunch of bs.