It's looks awesome except for the $15K dealer markup and the $7.99 interest in my area of the Pacific NW.
@griff676 Жыл бұрын
Ford should’ve kept the base model. The prices of all of these new vehicles are absolutely outrageous.
@Dawndre_ Жыл бұрын
Outer bank will be my go to if ever can get a bronco!
@nothingincommon7 ай бұрын
"streaming services" is not a positive. No offense, I don't care about paying for a service after 12-months.
@shawnking618 Жыл бұрын
I’m still loving my badlands bronco that I bought from you guys! Keep up the great content 👍🏻
@jessekuchinski117211 ай бұрын
I wanted the base model. I'm not a millionaire like everyone else. Nice job ford 👏
@michaellowell41152 ай бұрын
Just ordered my wifes 2 door big bend 24 mid pkg a couple weeks back, In azure grey & we’ll add our own suspension, tires & beadlocks
@Memetologist10 ай бұрын
Black Diamond + Mid Package + Soft Top + Sasquatch The ultimate Beach/Mountain vehicle for us in Southern California.
@captainkill21 Жыл бұрын
Big Bend might be the best value now. Got a 2023 Black Diamond and love it. Marine vinyl is amazing. Love the steel bumpers, Steelies and rock rails
@Jason_903 Жыл бұрын
Me too etuption green 2 door here
@Liq38 Жыл бұрын
Big Bend will only be available with 2.3 so that's a lose.
@BenA_DD Жыл бұрын
@jasonboyd7069 I have an order in for one in Eruption green, how do you like yours? I'm kinda on the fence but it's their only interesting color option at this point.
@captainkill21 Жыл бұрын
@@BenA_DD green is my favorite color out of the bunch. One sold before I could get it. I love my black Diamond. Looks sick and has been fun going mudding in.
@djkilpatrick5256 Жыл бұрын
@@Liq38all in what your intentions are for the truck. We went with the v6. Wanted to tow small camping trailers or similar small trailers. If we didn’t have that in mind, the 2.3 would had suffice
@SocialStudiesBob11 ай бұрын
For weeks I’ve been watching videos about the 24 Bronco changes especially on Big Ben. Two years ago I ordered a Sasquatch Black Diamond. That was the lowest trim I would accept for one reason. BD was the first trim to have Washout Floors. That should be minimum for all “Off Road” vehicles. Unfortunately, job change kept me from getting my Bronco. I actually sold Fords in Florida and moved to Texas for a Management job at another Ford dealer. I hated that dealership and left two weeks into the job. 8 months later I started my New career as a High School World History teacher. Now things have settled so I can get a Bronco! So I ordered a 2024 from my old Florida Ford dealership. While doing research using the 2024 Bronco order guide I discovered something huge, not a single KZfaqr brought up the Big Ben is getting “WASH OUT FLOORS” standard! Which means the Heritage (Big Ben with appearance and standard hard top , and SAS packages) I ordered because is a better deal because for Sasquatch Black Diamond 4door by about $1000. Why isn’t anyone talking about Washout in Big Ben? Duh, lol. Still get the cloth seats with Heritage but you can’t have everything!
@anthonygallo35768 ай бұрын
When u get the marine grade vynl, u also get rhr rubber floor mats. Anyine who knows bronco knows that but your right, it shoukd have been mentioned
@TopSecretVid Жыл бұрын
Big mistake from Ford to discontinue the Base model. What a shame!!! All this means is that the price increases will be even higher. Im so glad I got my 2023, Big Bend, Sas, Sandstone cloth, bumper, switches, and tow package!!
@JohnDoe-nz6bk Жыл бұрын
Sounds like no one was buying the base.
@JohnDoe-nz6bk Жыл бұрын
@CottonTexas several dealerships in my area didn’t have any markups. I just ordered my wildtrak for msrp.
@russellligon3431 Жыл бұрын
I’d really like to see a video about the differences between the Ford offered bimini tops, canvas vs mash, install, area covered, keeping it under the hard/soft tops, etc.
@jeffone2nv Жыл бұрын
Money money money 💰 you better be rich to purchase one ☝️
@2Greenlid Жыл бұрын
60K for a vehicle rich? Probably for 50% of people, other 50% that isn’t a crazy amount, my last two vehicles were $73K and $77K over the past 6 years,, great to be rich!
@Aceinfinity-le8zc Жыл бұрын
@@2Greenlidlol
@neooverby3750 Жыл бұрын
@@2Greenlid well most can afford it barely. When you actually do the numbers for budgeting most shouldn’t be paying that much for a car
@mydcunited Жыл бұрын
@@neooverby3750im sure he is paying 1500k a month and thinks thats normal.
@andrewjohnson119911 ай бұрын
@@2Greenlid60k is a lot for a vehicle for most ordinary people lol.
@jk8897 Жыл бұрын
for the last 4 years, the prices of the vehicles have more than tripled so these prices still look shitty to me.
@TheRedkid2010 ай бұрын
I really wish they had rubberized floors and drain plugs for all of the Bronco trims; half of the point of owning one is having the top off/down and not worry about things getting messy/moldy; get rid of the carpet
@bradreimer3453 Жыл бұрын
Can't believe they took way one of the most popular colors, Area 51, without giving another color option. Like WHY THE F won't they introduce Sage Green or something close to the original Boxwood Green early Broncos had? Seriously... what a piss off. I held off a month to order a 2024 and just found out today that I can't get the color I want. Ford should fire the person that made that stupid decision.
@StaneDaynus Жыл бұрын
The base with the steelies was special. Goodbye value budget Sasquatch
@marcusclark8767 Жыл бұрын
I was already shooting for a 2023 outer banks. Nice to know the price isn’t going up and it’s improved. Looking forward to ordering.
@jonahkaiguam Жыл бұрын
Dayum.....gotta get me a 4 dr black diamond. Broncos just started hitting the streets on my tiny little US Territory island and man that red painted bronco 4 dr got me hooked
@tonygodsey312810 ай бұрын
I have been trying to order/buy a 2 door heritage edition from 2 different Ford dealerships, and both have let me down and I have missed both open orderings. I'm tempted to go to the closest one and tell their managment that I will give $100 bonus to the first salesmen that lets me know when the next ordering date opens, to where I can get one. It is just so frustrating. Thanks for the great video.
@kyleloew432 Жыл бұрын
Yea I agree, the wildtrak kinda is not necessary once you get a sasquatch pkg on a badlands.
@DS-sk9ed10 ай бұрын
Hoss 3.0
@scottdaytonhunn Жыл бұрын
I lucked out with my value Bronco hack; 2023 2DR BaseSquatch with the 2.7. (Especially for the early reservationists who also got two private offers). All for less than $40,000. The 2DR was initially offered at a loss to stick it to Jeep.
@Imafed42069 Жыл бұрын
Yup I got that exact build was $43,290 but I got a nearly $4,000 rebate. Went to build out the same 23’ model year it’s now nearly $49,000. Sadly, I traded it in when I moved from AZ to CA recently only had it for 4 months out 6,200 miles on it loved it. Now I’m gonna have to spend probably $80k on a 4 door
@caneman79 Жыл бұрын
My dude is Rocking!!! Back and Forth, Back and Forth.....keep up the great videos man.
@mattdagger1480 Жыл бұрын
I’d order a bronco if they towed more. I just can’t pull my camper with the towing capacity they have currently. And of course I’d want at least a badlands as a minimum and they just don’t tow enough sadly
@scottnewton904611 ай бұрын
I’m happy that at those prices, Ford has decided to include an AM radio, which until recently was on the cutting block.
@zibafairchild61853 ай бұрын
Guess you want the 8 track huh?
@ixsmaelable Жыл бұрын
And they will add a $50k mark up. Keep it
@Liq38 Жыл бұрын
nobody is charging that kind of markup nor did they ever...I actually paid below invoice for my Bronco last summer but I was a day 1 reservation.
@theflame7153 Жыл бұрын
@@Liq38ohhh boy you have not seen some dealers then, in Salinas Cali they had a 38k mark up for the outer banks and a 46k mark for a top loaded wild track. There was another dealer that was selling a base bronco for 73k because it had “off road tires”
@Liq38 Жыл бұрын
@@theflame7153 the question is are people paying it? when I see higher end trims selling on BaT at near or below MSRP it's safe to say that ADM ship has done sailed. Sure, used ones are selling like new but if you go to a dealer and place an order you're.more than likely at MSRP. T&C has been MSRP the entire time and there were even a couple dealers selling below invoice such as Stephens in WVa. and Granger in Iowa.
@ixsmaelable Жыл бұрын
@@Liq38 what?!!!!! Are you talking jut to talk? Most of those cars have an MSRP of 50k to 60k and they are being sold at dealerships for 100k plus. Do the math pull out a calculator if it’s needed for you to see it.
@carmenvanhook5756 Жыл бұрын
Yes You are Right I was on The waiting List for 6 Months for a White 4 door Retractable Top was told it will be another 6 Months asked For My 500. DOLLARS AND Got a 4 Runner The Next Day Scams!!!!They Add 2000 after your Vehicle arrives Scams!!! GOT To Toyota They Have New Ones!!!
@AsianPersuation24x7 Жыл бұрын
kinda sad to see the Base go, I kinda take pride in actually being someone who drives the $30,000 Bronco lol now the base price is 40K and 2 doors will offer no decent savings over a 4 door.
@TopSecretVid Жыл бұрын
Exactly.. The Base is what the Bronco is really about. I would cost Ford nothing to keep the Base in the lineup.
@Butzy621 Жыл бұрын
Not sure why you'd applaud eliminating the base. That was a great value! The disconnect was the price difference between the two for very little change.
@donsantos8798 Жыл бұрын
The base is crap
@simeonpratt5762 Жыл бұрын
This is some good info. Still waiting to hear back from your dealership about my Bronco price protection that I purchased 4 months ago.
@bg4779 Жыл бұрын
Well looks like my Area 51 big bend with the 2.7 v6 is now going to be a unique build haha
@CMA81049 ай бұрын
Just ordered my 2024 heritage i4, 7 spd, in race red thanks to your vid. I can't wait for that manual transmission.
@mpeugeot Жыл бұрын
Killing cloth in the OBX was not particularly bright nor was axing the 2 door OBX. The worst decision was combining the high and lux package.
@nurseaj1248 Жыл бұрын
We have unicorns now! 😊
@mpeugeot Жыл бұрын
@@nurseaj1248 tell me about it, I have 2 of them... I am finally getting ready to rip out the crappy B&O amplifier in mine and replace it with a much better amplifier and DSP. After 80k miles, it's almost exactly how I want it... LOL.
@dbunch9048 ай бұрын
The Big Bend is a KILLER option now for the casual off roaders!!!! 12 inch screen, MOLLE panels, MGV seats are just icing on the cake. They’re about to sell these like hot cakes.
@Morsus10011 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that the Badlands is getting the upgraded steering rack. I think it’s a no brainer addition. But I tried to confirm the upgrade information with my dealer and they couldn’t find anything about it with their references. I made the order change from Wildtrack to Badlands based on this video’s information so I’m going on blind faith. Fingers crossed.
@chadh689911 ай бұрын
I am wondering the same. I just ordered a '24 2-Door Badlands with Sasquatch based mainly on this information for the upgraded steering gear. I could buy an incoming 2023 within the next 2 weeks just like what i ordered but based on what Mitchell said about the upgraded steering gear, upgraded interior plastics and 4 position head rests, it made sense to just order the 2024. The price is essentially the same and I can wait if the mentioned upgrades are in fact there.
@jeffcarter9646 Жыл бұрын
So No Manual Trans on the 6 cylinder? SMH Damn... I talked to 4 ford dealers and they said that if Ford did that, Broncos would be flying off their lot...
@jeffcarter9646 Жыл бұрын
Get a Diesel engine in the Bronco please!!!
@EDV8ZR1 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffcarter9646Then what do you want to do Next Direct Port Propane Injection?
@Commentleaver-c6x3 ай бұрын
They need to put a 3 speed on the column in them like the old original broncos.
@grega44508 ай бұрын
Love the video. Can u do a video between the heritage and heritage limited. Big price difference and no real explanation of the difference
@sitnud11 ай бұрын
the main thing ford should have done from the beginning.... When you order a modular bumper it should force upfitter switches... 1 missed check box and I have to either spend well over a grand or mount some after market box somewhere....
@TPindellAuto11 ай бұрын
ME every time I wake up in the morning 12:20
@Butzy621 Жыл бұрын
Glad I got my basesquatch when I did.
@kirk83599 ай бұрын
My dealer has 2 brand new Area 51 4 door Bronco's sitting on the lot, both have been there for 5 weeks, so I think the paint color has run its course. I still like it though.
@johnnyd614 Жыл бұрын
Let’s get the Bronco to tow at least 7,000 pounds.
@ixibladeixi2639 Жыл бұрын
This is how you order. 2024 Jeep Wrangler 392 V8. Vroom vroom.
@user-gn2ni2dp6f9 ай бұрын
ima get one bro, ima get the 2.0 because i want higher mpg, all you do is change the offroad tires to normal mpg tires
@HighCountryRambler5 ай бұрын
Torn between the preferred 2 door, and the more functional 4 door. Want to flat tow it so weight is a factor.
@s.m.anthos78419 ай бұрын
My mouth to God's ears, but he needs his own show reviewing vehicles? Am I alone? He's got talent!
@CurbSlayers Жыл бұрын
Also noticed that the automatic 4x4 On Demand Activation option is no longer offered on any of the trims, at least not standalone. You now have to opt for the Sasquatch package to get it. I was already planning on spec’ing Sasquatch on my Outer Banks build but my buddy got his ‘23 without the Sasquatch but WITH the on demand 4x4 option. This could be an issue for those who want to do their own aftermarket lift and tires but still want the on demand system. There’s also now a second two-tone leather/vinyl color option that I’m seeing on Outer Banks that I don’t think was available previously. Wish I’d taken screenshots because now I can’t access my previous builds. Finally, the entire dealer accessories section at the bottom has been removed. I’m assuming you’ll still be able to add those items when placing your final order but it was really nice to be able to add them in the build tool to see your final price and work the financing. Really hope that gets added back into the tool.
@DougVandegrift Жыл бұрын
I wonder if that's a B&P error. But yeah it confusing....
@everettstormy Жыл бұрын
So you can't get the auto 4x4 on anything but the sasquach?
@barrytobias6921 Жыл бұрын
The Broncos that are on car lots are still being marked up. We waited 1 1/2 years for ours and still had to give up allot from what we ordered. Are we going to see Ford stick to delivery dates? There should be no excuses anymore about getting materials. We love our Bronco and being 6’4” I did not fit in a Jeep but many people like myself are looking elsewhere because of the vehicles still being priced way to high.
@Commentleaver-c6x3 ай бұрын
Sales have plummeted 25% in 2024, the novelty has worn off.
@gobroncogo22 Жыл бұрын
Not sure how I feel knowing my Base is going to be a rare trim of the Bronco family.
@TopSecretVid Жыл бұрын
2 door, manual Everglades would be sweet.
@keithfitterer6899 Жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t the sway bar disconnect come standard with the Sasquatch package???
@emmanuelwillis7 ай бұрын
I cannot understand for the life of me why that you would applaud Ford for getting rid of the base model?? Makes no sense. Now if they were going to offer a higher trim model for the same price, that would be fine. But that does not seem to be the case.
@JR-ut1yx5 ай бұрын
Big ben 2 door with automatic transmission, that's it, I will add my favorite a/t tires😊
@BlackSummit92 Жыл бұрын
Anyone noticed big bend offers mid package on the 7 speed manual? If this isn’t a glitch then big bend might be a worthy option to the black diamond from the mid package/manual perspective.
@michellerobinson5155 Жыл бұрын
I just noticed the same thing. Hope it is accurate.
@jeffparish829 ай бұрын
bro you came so far I've always watched your videos I'm getting ready to retired from the military hopefully by Feb and hoping to jump into a bronco just a little pricey right now lolll. thanks for your vids bud!!!
@mpeugeot Жыл бұрын
The WildTrak also had an upgraded suspension... but who's counting that? I spent $1400 with the core charge to upgrade my OBX steering rack to the HOSS 3.0 rack. After returning the core, that's only a $1000 cost to upgrade.
@davidoliver9561 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get that deal?!? Nice!
@mpeugeot Жыл бұрын
@@davidoliver9561 it was Ford OEM Parts Direct and it was $1483 shipped with the core charge back when I purchased it in October 2022. It was $1346 for the rack and core charge.
@fredperiquet147611 ай бұрын
Following
@emiliopelaez60711 ай бұрын
I’m in Colorado but actually Thinking about coming out to Alabama to buy my future Bronco from you! 👍🏼
@PhuVet6 ай бұрын
The funny thing is the dealers in my area cant sell their 2022, 2023's and now they are going up in price again...really dumb time to increase prices. Add in the upgrades for the 2024, they will never sell them. The weird thing is that they refuse to go below MSRP and there are tons of 10k over 20mile "Used" Broncos at all of the dealers as well that nobody will finance.
@jamesinkeys11 ай бұрын
Not ever to offer a fully fold down OEM fold down convertible top for the TWO door(without the hardtop), and then killing the new OBX TWO door altogether is lost on me...
@dachta1 Жыл бұрын
Make standard several options but you paying for it!
@user-wo9xl5ln6q10 ай бұрын
What’s wrong with the steering rack?
@EDV8ZR1 Жыл бұрын
Would consider ordering one if there is a Supercharged 5.0 Liter V8 Option? If so sounds good.
@chipott37058 ай бұрын
Had to order a 24 Heritage when my 23 didn’t get built. More like $4000 increase. The automatic alone is an additional $500.
@Twinjeremy Жыл бұрын
Outrageous prices... No thanks.
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl8 ай бұрын
I'm also hoping for a hybrid or PHEV Bronco.
@fr3shJ11 ай бұрын
What about the engine problems? With 2023 is that fixed with 2024? I don't think people wanna pay money for a vehicle that gives engine problems, will dealer ship give free warranty at least 3 years since there's know to have problems
@bendmacmanufacturing27448 ай бұрын
My friend had nothing but issues with his and sold it , and Lite-Bright hated there's too , but like the Raptor but thought it was over priced !!!
@jayesbeautifulchaos2244 Жыл бұрын
We saw 90% of our orders come in with cactus grey. I’d say only 3-4 were Area 51. I want rapid red back! And some air vents in the center console for the rear seats. They’re getting closer to pin pointing the bronco though. I’ve got my 23 badlands which will be my keeper unless they decide to change the few things I’d like to see changed….
@trav22trex21 Жыл бұрын
Honestly sucks for me. I ordered a 2 door badlands 10 speed 4 cylinder. And I wanted fog lights so I ordered a regular bumper. So hopefully it gets built before I have to rebuild it.
@scottdaytonhunn Жыл бұрын
Why are there a bunch of BaseSquatch haters out there? I guess it's because, other than the HOSS 3.0, you can get a WT capable Bronco for 20k less.
@OmarRodriguez-ox4ey Жыл бұрын
Very nice cars but I’ll stick with my 392. Hopefully Bronco comes up with a V8 at some point.
@markcole6475 Жыл бұрын
For the price of a 392 , a person could buy a raptor
@OmarRodriguez-ox4ey Жыл бұрын
@@markcole6475 yes and I think the Jeep might still cost you a little more. However Bronco Raptor is still V6. That’s why I said that hopefully Bronco comes up with a V8, I’d be more than happy to buy one.
@markcole6475 Жыл бұрын
@@OmarRodriguez-ox4ey a v8 would be nice, maybe in the future , but the v6 is very powerful for its size and light weight! 330 hp and 410 ft tq is no joke for an average vehicle …still getting decent fuel mileage being a full size rig…. A jeep 392 is a special order unit and upwards close to 90k vs a base bronco with the v6 well equipped can be had for half that cost. I personally would get a Raptor with the 3.0 v6 or a velociraptor with 500 hp! ……if I have the money..lol
@4lanman Жыл бұрын
Sad to see the base go..m
@iaiandocherty8576Ай бұрын
4 door big bend with mid package with upgraded transmission and hard top is best option .
@haroldbanks5388 Жыл бұрын
Don't understand why they didn't put the 360 cameras in the regular heritage. Since you have connections with Ford Motor Company. Tell them to put cameras in Heritage
@GunnerAl911 ай бұрын
Why is it when I go to the Ford Order page, the only option for the Badlands is the 1.5L 4 cylinder engine and not the 2.3L as you mention in the video?
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl8 ай бұрын
so the Bronco Raptor will NOT get the new Fox dual-live valve shocks that's in the 2024 F-150 Raptor 37s? why?
@brkmen11 ай бұрын
Hey Mitch, does Ford have any plans to offer a soft top with a two-door Bronco? Instead of getting the hardtop and then have to pick up one aftermarket. Thank you, AP.
@bryanflyn Жыл бұрын
I looked at build/price for 2024 Wildtrak/Sasquatch and while the base price increased $2000, but the option group 354A which has the High/Lux package went down $1000! So total difference from my 2023 is $1000.
@andrewblue477 ай бұрын
Dang. Area 51 was a favorite. Good thing I already have a Banland sas with Area 51.
@aaronosborn7395 Жыл бұрын
The only way to order a bronco is without a markup over msrp
@Mudvaynefan173311 ай бұрын
The Big Bend also has the rear locking differential as an option. Idk if that was an option before. I had a 2022 base model so I wasn't looking at that trim tbh. Now that it's the entry something to think about
@user-rv1qf8is1y10 ай бұрын
Great vid! Can you explain the drive options/change if any? Meaning, in the ‘23 you can opt for a “AWD” mode. Is that true with the ‘24’s?
@hjchamp04 Жыл бұрын
Placing a big bend order for sure. Wonder if the mid package will have a price change
@DougVandegrift Жыл бұрын
now with a 12 inch screen, it's awesome!
@gtamantube7 ай бұрын
this is like the 12 days of christmas 😅
@gtamantube7 ай бұрын
2023 braptor had available color matched flares
@daphoneguy9346 ай бұрын
Still no rain gutters!
@Dontstressbenchpress Жыл бұрын
God damn...I just picked up my Black Diamond 2.3 Hardtop SAS a few weeks ago and now the 12 inch screen is standard -__- I would have just ordered the Everglades at basically the same price point now.
@fullspeedfordbronco Жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, the Badlands is the most popular trim for people that don’t off-road 😂
@EZapar Жыл бұрын
I think probably 2% of Bronco owners actually off road them.
@ricardogonzalez29773 ай бұрын
Important! Does the big bend can get the sasquatch package? Have a friend with a 4cyl Sasquatch BB and is INSANE!
@starboy71 Жыл бұрын
Ok. Great video! Makes me want to trade in my 22 Bronco for a 2024. My only complaint of this video is with all the arm gestures I kept thinking Mitchell was gonna drop a rap on us. Missed opportunity Mitchell! 😂
@TCcustoms_ Жыл бұрын
Hahah!!! I was excited and highly caffeinated! 🤣😂
@PaulGinAZ68 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of the updates, this was a really great video! If we were to order a vehicle given those guidelines, what is the general rule of thumb from ordering date to delivery?
@thesandman443410 ай бұрын
Great job explaining the 2024 changes and target consumer. Now work on standing still and quit the annoying rocking back and forth.
@bobchronister3429 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the new upgraded steering rack for the Badlands will be available for those of us with previous model years (like 2023)?
@Life-with-ADV Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that I have a 23 badlands
@fredperiquet147611 ай бұрын
What about the 2022? I have a Badlands Sasquatch and couldn’t be happier with that. However, what options can we get beefing up the steering rack?
@kylejackson16 Жыл бұрын
Still no way to get the 2.7L in manual?
@IAmWoody6 ай бұрын
Can you tell me why the Sasquatch package on the Big Bend is $8,660, while the same package upgrade on the Badland is $5,220? They have the same items!!!
@mattdagger14809 ай бұрын
So I'm looking at ordering a black diamond but with the Sasquatch package. When you add the Sasquatch package does that automatically give you the front locker and sway bar disconnects?
@371kenny10 ай бұрын
What about the "work" trim level
@mirandadeel2702 Жыл бұрын
❤Thank you for sharing this God bless you
@bjmcfarland1 Жыл бұрын
Mitchell Watts I just have one question; how much coffee did you drink before making this video. You were moving around a lot; or was that just excitement for all of the good news on the upcoming 2024 Bronco. Do you have any information on the bronco sport for the coming year
@TCcustoms_ Жыл бұрын
Both! Excited and caffeinated! 🤣😂
@krum819 ай бұрын
Does it have rear seat vents yet ?
@MC-up7vx11 ай бұрын
Does the 2024 Bronco have better materials inside this time? Or is it more so plastic like the 2023 model?
@Commentleaver-c6x3 ай бұрын
Total plastic.
@ShadfallX86 Жыл бұрын
Nailed it on the head for the target demographic for the Black Diamond. I love my 23, don't really need all the stuff that comes with the higher trims.