What if Sargeras was a goblin?

Dranosh surviving the Wrath Gate would have quiet litterally been the best thing that could happen to Azeroth.

What If Dranosh Saurfang Had Survived The Wrathgate? We would have had one less raid boss in ICC.

Wouldn't mind seeing a "Part 2" to this timeline.

Spoilers to the video: Hey guys just wanted to add that most of the conversations in this video, that take place between the characters are not made up. They actually took place in our timeline, like Garrosh and Cairne arguing on the boat and Cairne accusing Garrosh of being a liar. However, I do tweak the conversations a bit and change them since Dranosh is still alive. For example, the conversation with thrall and dranosh originally took place with Garrosh and Thrall when Thrall made him warchief. But thats all I had to say! Hope you guys enjoyed this "What If" video, next one will be about Darion Mograine. Haven't written any of the script down yet, but I already have it all laid out in my head!

Wrathgate is basicly the 9/11 of WoW

What if Cairne Bloodhoof won his dual against Garrosh Hellscream?

I'd like to see a part two of this. Dranosh being Warchief would completely change MoP and everything after it.

i would not mind part 2 to this how all this events would effect cat and MoD and the like

The Axe of Cenarius was considered by Blizzard for the artifact for Arms warriors in World of Warcraft: Legion, but the developers thought that a wooden, nature-themed axe didn't fit the class. Ultimately, [Strom'kar, the Warbreaker] was used instead.

Please give a part two to this story. It would change so much of pandaria.

What if the lich king wasn't killed before Deathwing awoke.

Love it! Thrall even said if dranosh was alive he'd be the war chief, the expats after would be amazing. Wish he never died.

What if Illidan managed to defeat Arthas and destroy the Lich King?

Sparing an enemy in a Mak'gora would be considered a major insult and anything but honorable. Otherwise, great video!

Then Dranosh had to spends weeks grinding Artifact power for the Axe of Cenrarius :P

What I wonder is how would mists play out with Dranosh as warcheif?

This was an amazing video and worth all the work you put into it. I always lamented that things between the Horde and Alliance would have gone much better if Drannosh had lived, and you played it out just as I imagined it would.

What if Darius Crowley won the Gilnean Civil War?

Dude... I really don't know what to say, your videos are just... amazing, keep up the good work !!

i absolutely LOVE these what if videos!! thank you very much for putting these out. i love the lore in warcraft and these make for some fun alternate thoughts of what might have been. :)

Love all this speculation it makes the lore so much more interesting, Love it pal :)

Let's be honest. Anything else could've happend for the Horde and it would've been better for it. Can't say it would be as good for the Alliance, just that it would be better for the Horde.

That video was full of honor, i appreciated it!!

Its something to think about i really appreciate your videos and keep on making them :D The Litch king was a joke and i was glad to take part in slaying that joke

Good job there mate, I enjoyed watching it! :)

What if a Arrogance Orc went to a altenrente reality.. revived the most Powerful Warlock that ever lived and created a way for A burning legion Invasion.. Sounds.. Very Promising isn't it....

I love your "What if!" scenarios, good listening while grinding. :)

These are fucking awesome. I would love more of these please. Maybe something along the lines of "what if neltharion had not become corrupted?" "What if Kel'thuzad had not joined the cult of the damned?" "What if Jaina and Kael'thus had become a thing instead of her and arthas?"

Man, that was awesome. Thanks for the video..

Love the What If scenarios. This was well done.

Very well done brutha!

Amazing content as always keep it up man.

These are so good man like this is amazing

I haven't been able to play WoW for a good while now because my computer literally broke. However I still watch videos of current gameplay and lore and I have to say these What If videos from you are amazing. I'm a CW Flash fan (rip season 3) so I loved the possibility of time travel or a step aside in the lore .... a What If please keep this up for all the lore even to the little things.

Just about anyone would have been better than Garrosh "Daddy Issues" Hellscream.

I love these videos please don't stop making them ever! Lol

best video for me :) that was crazy good...dont stop them :D

Man i love this "what if" videos, great videos

Man this is a great video, hope you do more of these. On the note of Thura knowing he would need the axe though. the vision she saw was shown to her only by malfurion so that she would come and end up saving him.

Loved it man!!!

In terms of gameplay, if Dranosh survived, he'd probably be the one to give you the ICC buff instead of Garrosh, and there would be not only no need for Varok to come to Icecrown Citadel, but two bosses (Gunship and Deathbringer Saurfang) would be cut from the raid. Maybe, if Blizzard still wanted a gatekeeper boss for ICC that would fulfil a similar role to Deathbringer Saurfang instead of Deathbringer Saurfang as the gatekeeper, we'd see someone like Orbaz Bloodbane, Captain Falric or maybe High Thane Jorfus guarding the Citadel. In additional lore, we wouldn't have the Theramore bombing, meaning Jaina would still play to be neutral, and the Kirin Tor would follow suit. Liam Greymane would have survived the Battle of Gilneas, (as the Forsaken invasion of Gilneas was under Garrosh's orders) and Genn probably wouldn't be so bitter towards Sylvanas, meaning he wouldn't be there to stop her plans for immortality in Legion (if she would even have them). Cairne would still be alive, meaning Baine wouldn't be a Horde leader, but maybe an important questing figure. Dranosh, instead of Sylvanas would give you some Legion PVP buffs. Dalaran would've kept the Sunreavers as citizens in Mists lore. We wouldn't have the Vol'Jin pre-Siege of Orgrimmar event, Siege of Orgrimmar, or Warlords of Draenor. This also means that Vol'Jin wouldn't succeed him as Warchief post-raid then die in Legion, Sylvanas wouldn't have succeeded Vol'Jin, and Battle for Azeroth, the upcoming expansion, would have turned out very differently from Varok remaining in Stormwind custody for seemingly indefinite amounts of time. Just some pointers on lasting impacts this great decision to keep Saurfang the Younger alive could've brought, but alas, Blizzard has to be a dick. If anyone wants to point out more things, or any things I could've put in, please suggest them to me.

However long it took you to make, it was worth it! Well done!

Love the work you do on this channel, keep up the good work please!!

Damn,these series are so awesome.Keep up the good work. Btw I love your voice. Is very clear and understandable by foreigners like me.

Love these what if videos

I LOVE YOU FOR MAKIN THIS VIDEO

Heh, I am mildly disappointed Saurfang didn't tell Garrosh "there, with all your ranks taken, you are as good as dead" after the Mak'gora. But that was a good "what if" video in general.

As a Warcraft lore fan I will say: Good job man! Really enjoyed it!....just that...what if??!?

Please make a part two, I love this idea.

Wait.. He would look back at Bolvar and say "Lok'tar ogar" (victory or death) and then retreat?

Epic as always =D

Awsome video! Keep it up

I love these vids, pls more :)

Love the video, its really good

Nice one, I was thinking exactly of the same, Dranosh would have made a badass warchief

these are absolutely amazing, one of my favorite types of WoW videos Although I feel like if draenosh wasn't killed and raised then bolvar would become the "champion" of the scourge to stop you after the airship battle, and tirion would've become the lich king.

This would have HUGE implications for the timeline. Garrosh not becoming warchief and having his aggression somewhat tempered by being humbled by this duel, would mean that would probably be no awakening of Y'sharajj. Heck, if peace was maintained until Pandaria, there might not even be the Sha. Either way, that means no Siege of Orgrimmar, which means no War Crimes, which means no alternate Draenor, which means no alternate Gul'dan to open a portal at the Tomb of Sargeras, which means no Legion, which means no sword in Silithus, along with no Broken Shore, so no Sylvanas as Warchief, so there's no Battle for Azeroth. Sylvanas MIGHT still end up working for the Jailer, but without Argus's death, that means no anima drought in the Shadowlands, so the Jailer's plans would have to wait. Dragonflight, at least, might be fairly unaffected. But it's possible that without Legion and BFA, that Xal'atath would still be stuck as a knife, meaning potentially no War Within. TL;DR This would flip the entire timeline on its head and things could develop VERY differently going forward, with most expansions as we know them being rendered null and void.

This has to be one of my favorite what-ifs of all time. Thank you so much for making this video and your narration for it is great! Kinda makes you think as to what sort of changes would occur within the Alliance as well since Garrosh would supposedly do NOT do the things he did in the current timeline for the Horde. And if that is the case...could you possibly put down the what-if scenario for them as a whole? Or maybe one step further as to what the Siege of Ogrimmar would be really like? I know this is a bit far-fetched, but I believe that if Garrosh would be disgraced due to Cairne's blind dislike towards him, he and the rest of the available Warsong tribe would just pick up and leave refusing to even rejoin the Horde due to the hatreds towards the Tauren. Or more specifically, their leader. Cairne would be blamed for his perceived arrogance towards Garrosh that lead the young warriors' name to be tarnished and dishonored, and would become the perfect target and scapegoat for the Grimtotem. Thus, another series of events would either lead Cairne's death by poison or assassination. And, once again, the blame would be directed at Garrosh for his grudge against the Tauren. Of course, Dranosh would find this difficult to believe and would become suspicious as to why Cairne's death so suddenly after the fallout with the Warsong. Garrosh would receive word of the old bull's passing and knew that something is wrong. He would send out a messenger to Ogrimmar and request a parlay with Dranosh, seeing that another investigation would be in order. And, as predicted, many members of the Horde would jeer and scorn the Warsong tribe as murderers and traitors, but Garrosh would pay no mind. At the summit, Dranosh, Baine, Gallywynx, Lor'themar, and Sylvannas would also be there hoping to glean some answers from the young orc. Thus, the investigation begins and Garrosh is put on trial in the presence of all the leaders of the Horde. Constants and variables. This is just my worldview of what would happen. Once again, I know it is a bit far-fetched, but it would be amazing to see this some other part of the cosmos in an alternate timeline of the World of Warcraft.

I love these there just great to watch and imagine what would happen :)

Well done!

got goosebumps and teary eyes during this video not sure if I'm getting a cold or if sourfangs honor was that touching!! by far my favorite so far!! :)

This was awesome.

dude, your such a good story teller

Love this, pls more!!

Hellscream your videos are amazing and you are probably my favorite KZfaqr if i could i would add you on battletag but thats your choice keep up the good work btw

Damn son. I'm 5 minutes in and you gots me in tears

love these "What if" scenarios.

this is amazing love it

Pretty good video Hellscream

If Dranosh survived.... I'd elect him warchief. *sobs uncontrollably*

Amazing video

Excellent video

To tell the trueth, Hellscream, you literally put so much efford in it: I would totally agree to this outcome. Dranosh would be warchief, and won't kill Garrosh. He is / was a wise young Orc. Thrall would've made the right choic.

Great video.

Man you talk funny but I enjoy your story telling you are by far the best I have heard on here

amazing video bravo

This was the best alternate history ever!!!!! Go Dranosh!!!!!!!!

Dranosh ran away from the fight? what happened to victory or death?

omg!!!! please please PLEASE continue this story!!!

i love these videos i wish more people would do these

That would be so dope!

Great video Hellscream!! I got a question for you. What if Dranosh wielded Axe of Cenarius during the events of Wrathgate? Would he break Frostmourn then?! Anyway, Keep up with the Saurfangs, most badass family in Warcraft!

Now i can try to imagine how the other expansions might have gone on with Dranosh as warchief. Could be interesting to speculate.

So... much... geek want. Why couldn't have this happened? Oh, wait. We wouldn't have had MoP, WoD, and Leigon.....

5:00 Maybe Thrall had problems communing with the elements since he was too busy drinking in that inn?

I love these series, do more

Im a persob who tend to enjoy specualtions, hence i love your videos :PMORE!

Hmmm I think you should turn these into episodes. Arthas' episode for exemple, would change Azeroth in a such way it's aeesome to look at the possibilities. Drannosh is also very promising. What if he never went into that Kalimdor Conquest, taking Ashenvale and such? What about Krom'gar' and the Stonetalon Mountains lore? Garrosh gave the order to ahnilate Gilneas, but what if Drannosh didn't dop that, and also not letting her ahnilate Hillsbrad with the help of the Forsaken plague. There's just so much potential in these series I think you should do more about the same character.

very well done bravo

Nice touch on the Axe of Cenarius vs Gorehowl reminds me of Grom vs Cenarius

Hey Hellscream! Keep up the good work! I really think you should try out role playing if you haven't already! Hope to play with you someday!

I would love if the video was only 1 minute long and it said something along the lines of "Dranosh didn't charge the Lich King, instead, he died to the plague shortly after"

love the video.

Wonderful. Yes, absolutely wonderful

*sigh* I love and agree with this video... up to the 6 minute mark. At that point I just love this video. There's no doubt in my mind that Thrall would still make Garrosh leader of the Horde. Yes, Dranosh would be a seasoned veteran of the Horde... but Garrosh was still the one calling the shots up in Northrend. ... That, and it was nostalgia and "THE SON OF MY BEST FRIEND CAN OVERCOME ANY CHALLENGE!" that truly made Thrall pick red-hitler.

awesome video! don't suppose you'd be up for covering his encounter with deathwing and how he'd handle mop?

The most important change in this "what if" scenario. No more two minute long RP after gunship. I loved it when it was current content, but running ICC now... It's just.

Great video, man. I just missed on something in the lore. How was the axe of Broxigar retrieved from the Legion's world?

I almost spilled a tear