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Toyota bZ4X 1000 km challenge

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@Wolfenion
@Wolfenion Жыл бұрын
Toyota built something they hate, and it shows.
@cakeismtrader4227
@cakeismtrader4227 Жыл бұрын
Haha so true..they should of let Tesla take them over.
@igeekone
@igeekone Жыл бұрын
Toyota wants people to buy hybrids, the so called "self-charging EV."
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 Жыл бұрын
They don't hate BEVs. And they will improve this vehicle. Think of this as a test and then let's see how the future bZs are. Toyota will produce 6 BEVs for Europe by 2026 so no, they don't hate BEVS. Their position, their old position, was they don't think BEVS should be the only propulsion system going forward and car owners should have a choice. Their updated position will be articulated by their new CEO at some point after he takes his position (April 1st).
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminsmith2287 completely disagree. Zero effort was put into this vehicle. It’s so obvious.
@TheProjectOverload
@TheProjectOverload Жыл бұрын
They built it as a compliance EV with almost no effort - "See we made a Toyota EV and nobody wants it". This will force people back to Hybrids which they actually want to sell.
@quicksylverg9923
@quicksylverg9923 Жыл бұрын
I tried to watch this live with my notebook in bed.... I fell asleep at the 8 hour mark....... I woke up, and it was still going :D
@dr2okevin
@dr2okevin Жыл бұрын
It feels like Toyota nerfed the car to say to everyone "look, EVs are bad".
@hadtopicausername
@hadtopicausername Жыл бұрын
"Shut up! should be a built in voice command in any modern car.
@ronalddolman2654
@ronalddolman2654 Жыл бұрын
Despite their future promises, I think it's safe to say that Toyota hasn't even bothered: this is just another regular compliance car. Thank you Bjørn for putting in the effort and showing us how serious Toyota is about EV's. At the end of the list, just above a 5 year old Zoë. Not even 100 software updates are going to pull Toyota out of the grave they dug for themselves.
@tobiasstaermose
@tobiasstaermose Жыл бұрын
This made me feel pretty good with my Zoe and its 45kw "fast charging"🙃
@PaulvanDruten
@PaulvanDruten Жыл бұрын
I hope not. I alway was a Toyota fanboy but I bought the MG4 (top specs model)
@mesaber86
@mesaber86 Жыл бұрын
@@Moody_Blues_ "Toyota also claims the battery has been developed to still maintain 90% of its original capacity after 10 years and 240.000 km"... Claim... Sure.. But prove it. Claims doesnt mean anything. Tesla got numbers out on remaining battery capacity of their EVs, easy to google and its roughly 10% battery loss after guarantee is gone. Tesla CLAIMS the original battery will last the lifetime of the car if used normally. That should be more than enough. I would like to see 90% battery life after 1 mil km to believe it. That sounds too good to be true AND also unnecessary as the car wont last that long anyway (100,000/2000 = 50yrs). If you would lose 20% battery life (Tesla) the car would still be in great condition to be used by most drivers who arent picky, thats at roughly 20 years of normal use. So with that claim Toyota is selling clickbaits, which is what they need to do to get back into the race.
@raden9ka
@raden9ka Жыл бұрын
@@Moody_Blues_ very profound explanation! Hats off
@WarningSign1000
@WarningSign1000 Жыл бұрын
This is why you should avoid EVs. Toyota makes great cars with engines and hybrids!
@vhog666
@vhog666 Жыл бұрын
The follower and his kid were awesome!!! 🙌
@felgen24
@felgen24 Жыл бұрын
Thanks😍
@abdikarimali7971
@abdikarimali7971 Жыл бұрын
Sleeping in the 1000 km challenge. Never happened before. Usually Bjorn doesn’t even have time for a bite😂.
@andrejmeschede2057
@andrejmeschede2057 Жыл бұрын
Did anybody see that?! Slower than the LEAF!!! 😂
@smithcasey9785
@smithcasey9785 Жыл бұрын
When Björn said in the previous video the charging nerf, I had my guess placed somewhere between a rapidgating Leaf and a Renault Zoe 😅 Although I was close I can't exacty say I'm happy.
@musk-eteer9898
@musk-eteer9898 Жыл бұрын
ouch
@grant3226
@grant3226 Жыл бұрын
lol my 2015 Leaf chargers faster
@Halbwertszeit_ueberschritten
@Halbwertszeit_ueberschritten Жыл бұрын
;-)
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 Жыл бұрын
Lets come back in a few years and see if it also kills batteries like a Leaf.
@MichaelHWToh
@MichaelHWToh Жыл бұрын
They’re trying to prove their own thesis that there is no demand for EVs…
@pka8514
@pka8514 Жыл бұрын
Björn did double work for this video, so everyone should watch it twice.
@PhilT993
@PhilT993 Жыл бұрын
Poor excuse for an EV in 2023. Thanks, Bjorn, for all your patience and persistence !!
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
you have to be a ninja to drive that car fast
@Vrabetzz
@Vrabetzz Жыл бұрын
I'm used to charging at 40kw with the e-Golf. Didn't expect a modern proper EV to charge that slow. The confidence of the Toyota engineers must be really low if even VW engineers 10 years ago had more confidence in the battery(it's smaller - higher C rating - and has no cooling/heating). In the interest of the owners of this car I really hope the update improves the behavior to allow more full speed charging sessions etc.
@Knnnkncht
@Knnnkncht Жыл бұрын
VW could sell a Mark 8 e-Golf with those specs hahaha
@ashton9699
@ashton9699 Жыл бұрын
VW still had more interest in making a decent EV back then compared to Toyota now.
@valtersvasilis
@valtersvasilis Жыл бұрын
Yes, it would be ok if they give 500 000 km battery warranty, otherwise makes me think that battery is piece of sheeet that needs babying in order to last that 200 000 or so warranty period. 🤔
@user-yn5sk5ru5g
@user-yn5sk5ru5g Жыл бұрын
The e-Golf was acceptable back then, this Toyota is not in 2023
@Zoli1972s
@Zoli1972s Жыл бұрын
I don't think that the engineers at Toyota don't have confidence in their batteries. It's more likely that their confidence is being ignored by the management and sales departments. Maybe still too many pertol heads sitting in this departments?
@esaedvik
@esaedvik Жыл бұрын
I noticed it's really noisy at high speeds when I took one as a taxi. Very roomy backseat though. The driver was NOT happy with his purchase...
@LouisArquivio
@LouisArquivio Жыл бұрын
Did he say why?
@ziggyyo
@ziggyyo Жыл бұрын
​@@LouisArquivio Probably because of the high energy consumption, slow charging speed and limited range.
@ziggyyo
@ziggyyo Жыл бұрын
Taxi fleet operators often are not aware that they should purchase EV tires with special foam inlays to reduce the *noise emissions towards the passenger cabin.* The noise emissions shown on the standard tire label are measured from outside of the car.
@Danne89
@Danne89 Жыл бұрын
@@LouisArquivio Imagine using this as a taxi and only having TWO fast charging sessions a day. Such a joke...
@spintonik
@spintonik Жыл бұрын
I was expecting 3x250km a day with 2 fast charging sessions, but Björn made it for just 450km or so. This because fast charging is not available from 0% to 100%, but instead to 70% or so. The length of charging session is not taken into account. Shame that Toyota did the SW with the least amount of code lines possible. I wonder if the fast charging limitation could be 2 hours of charging per day instead?
@mrpratster
@mrpratster Жыл бұрын
We need a ninja to drive his car and this is exactly what we got. You are the ninja my friend. Thank you for all the hard work you do.
@nakfan
@nakfan Жыл бұрын
The BZ4X is charging and the stereo is playing “Together forever” 😂
@mrrkrr
@mrrkrr Жыл бұрын
At least the wheels didn't fall off!
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 Жыл бұрын
Yawn.
@carlarrowsmith
@carlarrowsmith Жыл бұрын
Hope you'll be going on all the Tesla reviews to mention the steering wheels falling off.
@samijokinen9246
@samijokinen9246 Жыл бұрын
@@carlarrowsmith First car I bought was old Chevrolet pick up. After some driving the steering wheel dropped in the hands of the driver. That was because it was attached with some tape and a hammer I guess. So nothing to see here, shit happens. Nobody was heart and we find a nut to attach this invention better.
@onlineactivityvideo
@onlineactivityvideo Жыл бұрын
Bjorn i admire your courage to drive this slow car. But it’s for th sake of science! Thanks
@michaelrichter2528
@michaelrichter2528 Жыл бұрын
Bjørn I love your Google spreadsheet! It is such a helpful data source to compare the long range capability of EVs. I think it would also be interesting to track the number of charging stops (I counted 8 in this video :O) and the total time spent charging.
@ict2k
@ict2k Жыл бұрын
"It's thirsty like an etron but charges dog slow". What a great summary :D
@imwsss726
@imwsss726 Жыл бұрын
In China the BZ4X has a official discount of almost 10000 USD which makes it curry starting under 25000 USD. But most people are still laughing at it for the poor efficiency, charging, range and equipment plus weird design. Basically only customers who are older, don’t know much about cars and have strong trust in the Toyota brand will buy it, and younger customers call it a inferior product.
@tpn3561
@tpn3561 Жыл бұрын
In China the new offer is: buy this and they give you a second free car (different model)! It sounds like desperation to me. The 10k dollars discount is common in this moment for most of automakers (EV and ICE)
@user-yy3ow3uo2r
@user-yy3ow3uo2r Жыл бұрын
在中国买一辆这车送一辆威驰。
@user-ws7oh6nk7l
@user-ws7oh6nk7l Жыл бұрын
You can get additional car when you buy a car? How is that possible?
@tpn3561
@tpn3561 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ws7oh6nk7l They give you a Vios for free... it's a promotion (because they can't sell either)
@imwsss726
@imwsss726 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ws7oh6nk7l Because it’s cheaper than cash discount.
@oskarzgoa8428
@oskarzgoa8428 Жыл бұрын
It acts like a 2013 ZOE ten years later. No SoC during riding, no range, only SoC during charging 🤦🏼 Zoe has at least 50% less consumption 😁
@artemZinn
@artemZinn Жыл бұрын
I wish every Toyota manager & engineer involved into building the car like this drive it everyday. So bad. Thank you for your work Bjorn.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
ding pull ahead don't you hate when your car is a back seat driver?🤣
@ninininibooboo6526
@ninininibooboo6526 7 ай бұрын
What! You don’t think it’s worth the $62,000 I paid for the first BZ4X in America!?!?!?!
@runedahl1477
@runedahl1477 Жыл бұрын
I had ordered the Solterra but just before the delivery the factory stopped the delivery of the BZ and the Solterra due to wheel bolts unscrewed on a couple of the cars that had been delivered. Then there was no info about the progress in solving the wheel bolt problem. It September I got tired of waiting and bought an iX instead. It was more than what had budgeted for but definitely worth the extra costs. Then when they continued to roll out the cars again I heard about the charging and battery problems. In the aftermath I am happy that that the delay in delivery made me buy an other car. I wonder how the Lexus RZ will do when they start delivering them. After all they have much in common with the Toyota and the Subaru.😊
@valtersvasilis
@valtersvasilis Жыл бұрын
Maybe lexus continue to use Chademo. You don't need to nerf charging speed if there's no proper fast charger... 😂
@runedahl1477
@runedahl1477 Жыл бұрын
@@valtersvasilis The network of fast chargers here in Norway is not so bad compared to other countries. Just 700 meters away from my house have 3 chargers with 180 kw recently been installed.😅🤠
@valtersvasilis
@valtersvasilis Жыл бұрын
@@runedahl1477 I bet that it is CCS, not Chademo (Lexus UX300 e uses Chademo).
@runedahl1477
@runedahl1477 Жыл бұрын
@@valtersvasilis yes it is CCS there also a Chademo outlet there as well. As far as I know the Lexus RZ will be delivered with the same charging as the bz4X.😁
@s.kxx1956
@s.kxx1956 Жыл бұрын
To put this car into context, it averaged 302 wh/km which is 486 wh/mile. My tesla model y only gets this when going uphill going very fast, when its very cold and maybe even if i was to hold the brakes ! On a run like this, nowhere near it.
@villho
@villho Жыл бұрын
Hey, even my fatron consumes less than this Toyota 😅
@bikeaddictbp
@bikeaddictbp Жыл бұрын
I have a Chevrolet Bolt. I have only ever seen consumption that high when driving through slush and snow on winter tires!
@Mosern1977
@Mosern1977 Жыл бұрын
Seems like Toyota has some catching up to do.
@craigix
@craigix Жыл бұрын
Has some charging up to do.
@gasdive
@gasdive Жыл бұрын
It's not really matching a 2008 Tesla.
@Welly6858
@Welly6858 Жыл бұрын
Apparently Toyota is way behind Tesla at this moment. I am a Tesla owner but I do believe Toyota engineers would work hard to catch up Tesla in the next 5 years (?)
@gasdive
@gasdive Жыл бұрын
@@Welly6858 no chance. Like really, no chance at all. There's so much going on at Tesla right now, their lead is getting longer by a couple of days for every day that goes by. Not just the cars themselves, but the way they make the cars. The factories are decades ahead of toyota and the lead is growing. That's before you consider the chips they're building. Decades ahead of toyota and pulling away. Toyota is dead, they just haven't fallen over yet. This is a Kodak moment.
@GBR9794
@GBR9794 Жыл бұрын
@@gasdive ahh...... Tesla don't make chips though. You gotta understand the TSMC political problems before talking shits.
@tesla-spectre
@tesla-spectre Жыл бұрын
Toyota has totally missed the train to the future...
@tabxtra7057
@tabxtra7057 Жыл бұрын
They put all of there basked into the Hybrid series. and is now desperately catching up in pure EV.
@viliammanka1148
@viliammanka1148 Жыл бұрын
Toyota is new Nokia...
@michaelkim3432
@michaelkim3432 Жыл бұрын
They are falling further and further behind...
@Elektroauto1984
@Elektroauto1984 Жыл бұрын
They now team up with BYD to save their ass
@Iceeeen
@Iceeeen Жыл бұрын
When has they been leading the technology race? Toyota has lived on selling old tech engines that are reliable thanks to moderate power and actually quite bad fuel consumption compared to others with similar size and weight cars. Not a problem with combustion engines since they been more than good enough since the 90s. The problem then comes when you apply the same ides to a technology that needs to be on the edge to make it usable in day to day life. The battery will probably last forever with how the bms is set up. I'm guessing the high consumption has to do with having a drivetrain that's over sized, but it will probably last forever.
@DawidChorabik
@DawidChorabik Жыл бұрын
I have 2019 Kia e_Niro 64kWh. I thought it charges slow.... Man - this is crazy, not only my consumption is waaay lower but also charging is 72 kwH max.
@aarong9378
@aarong9378 Жыл бұрын
I've seen my Niro EV (2019) charging at 76kWh on a nice, hot battery. Even when cold, I see 50kWh.
@sandmehlig
@sandmehlig Жыл бұрын
Despite what Toyota might think about people not having any use for/interest in electric Toyota cars, Toyota must be convinced actively, that the opposites are the case.
@telostia
@telostia Жыл бұрын
Oh man. The results were pathetic. Toyota blew it this time. Thanks Bjorn for this!
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
22kw yeah that is pathetic man
@micl2003
@micl2003 Жыл бұрын
Bjorn: "Why are you doing this to me Toyota?" Toyota: "Nothing is impossible..."
@ojeskog
@ojeskog Жыл бұрын
Seriously Toyota, you've taken this long and this is what you ship out to customers!?! I'm sure future software updates will improve things, they simply have to! Given the low baseline it can't be hard to make significant improvements. But the worlds largest automaker really sent a car like this out to paying customers. Wow!
@bilgyno1
@bilgyno1 Жыл бұрын
The bad thing about a car like this is that some Toyota loyalists might buy it, and then have a very poor experience. That may make people think EVs are crap, whereas other options are way better and totally usable for most use cases. This car has some 2010 issues...
@WordsMatter1982
@WordsMatter1982 Жыл бұрын
Your first two sentences are Toyota's grand plan.
@b4804514
@b4804514 Жыл бұрын
Toyota only wants to sell ICE cars until they go bankrupt
@AliLakrakbi
@AliLakrakbi Жыл бұрын
I did about 5000km with the Subaru solterra from Norway all the way to Morocco. it was really slow charging in Norway maybe maximum was 75kw and then It would reach 40kw very fast before I would reach 50% , but once in Spain I got consistently 150kW. My strategy from Norway was just to go slow to conserve energy, In Germany I hammered it, and was able to go over 100kW for few percentage. BTW The car has about 30km after the 0km range I tried it in France I suffered non working chargers. if you turn off AC you get more range Anyway I have data from charging at 150kw in Spain, I can share it with you. You should definitely retry it in summer.
@Youtubeuseritis
@Youtubeuseritis Жыл бұрын
Do you recommend it overall? Has the charging situation improved over time with softer updates?
@DouglasJMark
@DouglasJMark Жыл бұрын
Um, room for improvement. Thanks Bjorn. Lotsa love to all from Toronto!❤❤❤
@medilyesoudhini7411
@medilyesoudhini7411 Жыл бұрын
I think bz4x is japanese for "dumpster fire"
@karl-erikkald8876
@karl-erikkald8876 Жыл бұрын
It could also mean either 'Busy for ex' or it could be a misspelling of the word 'BeeSex'
@karl-erikkald8876
@karl-erikkald8876 Жыл бұрын
@@hgh425 That's a more appropriate name for this car! I approve!
@lONlQ
@lONlQ Жыл бұрын
hahahahahahah you guys are so funny
@HoltAlex
@HoltAlex Жыл бұрын
More than double the price of a 28kWh Ioniq and 2.5 hours slower. What are they playing at.
@FrankNolf
@FrankNolf Жыл бұрын
@@jooptablet1727 same in Belgium, the full option is even the same as a model Y performance🤣🤣what the heck are they smoking at Toyota 🤣🤣
@giovannifoulmouth7205
@giovannifoulmouth7205 Жыл бұрын
​@@FrankNolf something very very strong 🔥
@silli12
@silli12 Жыл бұрын
That is shockingly bad... Toyota has lost the plot. The problem is that many non-EV owners will buy it just cause it is a "reliable Toyota" and have a horrible first experience with EV's vowing never to buy another one.
@FaceTubeU
@FaceTubeU Жыл бұрын
I think that's their plan. It will backfire, though.
@geirtoresimonsen8729
@geirtoresimonsen8729 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't take a lot of research to find out that there are way better EVs available at similar budget. Pretty much every review I have seen has slaughtered the bz4x/solterra for terrible range/consumption/charging combo.
@WordsMatter1982
@WordsMatter1982 Жыл бұрын
​@@geirtoresimonsen8729 Toyota people don't read reviews or care.
@engkino
@engkino Жыл бұрын
I am quite amaze this bz4x is the 2nd best selling car so far in Q1 23 in Norway.
@stigronnysuleskard5299
@stigronnysuleskard5299 Жыл бұрын
Once a Toyota driver always a Toyota driver 🤣
@dragoscucu3128
@dragoscucu3128 Жыл бұрын
The only reason to buy bz4x is that any other EV is out of stock.
@kenion2166
@kenion2166 Жыл бұрын
Thats just the world we living today, marketing is such a powerfull tool that ppl. dont even need to think they just buy. That car is bad in every single aspect, nothing gives me a premium feeling at all... What is all this buttons all over the place, software absolute nightmare, charging and consumption... Acceleration is also bad, simply nothing is good or outstanding NOT EVEN THE PRICE! Why would anyone consider a BZ4X over a ModelY?
@GBR9794
@GBR9794 Жыл бұрын
@@kenion2166 as if tesla is any better in terms of build quality. people will notice and complain about the build and finish more than range, it is that simple.
@AndrewClelland
@AndrewClelland Жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure Toyota brought this to market in the EU just to reduce the brand's average EU emission output, given that they still produce some of the most popular 100% fossil large 4wd vehicles that are highly inefficient.
@SteveLoughran
@SteveLoughran Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but to bring the landcruiser average CO2 emissions down you'd need to sell at a 1:1 ratio-and I don't see that happening at present. Maybe if the summer software update fixes things
@AndrewClelland
@AndrewClelland Жыл бұрын
@@SteveLoughran Yes, but keep in mind that Toyota's hybrids are their most popular selling cars in the EU, and all of those cars have extremely low official emissions, so I think Toyota decided that throwing one or two dedicated electric cars onto the market will equalise the emissions to satisfy the EU regulations. Just my thoughts :)
@FHB71
@FHB71 Жыл бұрын
We are so glad that you make those videos and go through those rough spots that make our decisions easier. I would never buy such a car 😀
@dereknicol5284
@dereknicol5284 Жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for any Toyota brand loyal customers who buy this without doing any research while trusting that Toyota would have engineered a good product.
@joseph-olivierdumas8462
@joseph-olivierdumas8462 Жыл бұрын
That’s almost every single person buying this car, unfortunately.
@Teslanative
@Teslanative Жыл бұрын
@@joseph-olivierdumas8462 true...
@GBR9794
@GBR9794 Жыл бұрын
Tesla builds quality and price though, I'll stick with my Mitsubishi Mirage for now until they build a better car than Mirage.
@stickysquirrel5687
@stickysquirrel5687 Жыл бұрын
@@GBR9794 Tesla is trash
@crestas9
@crestas9 Жыл бұрын
It’s not that bad if you don’t live in Norway or another cold country
@robertcherry4256
@robertcherry4256 Жыл бұрын
In the UK I have a FWD with 20 inch wheels. I agree with your poor energy performance findings. At 100% charge, I am getting around 300km (186 miles) indicated range, but as you know the real miles are at least 15% less than that, 255km. However, that is not the full picture. I record the indicated miles at 100% charge, and I am observing a DECLINE in these figures from early January to March by 9%. So in effect my energy consumption is getting worse before I even drive the car. I am not optimistic that the May update is going to give any significant improvement. I did a 210 mile trip on Saturday with a midway charge that I calculated would get me home with about 10 miles to spare. I was 10 miles from home when the miles went to - - - miles. I hadn't experienced that before, so I was a bit anxious. I'm reasonably OK with the rest of the car, but if I knew in December what I know now, I would not have bought it. Very disappointed.
@Youtubeuseritis
@Youtubeuseritis Жыл бұрын
Has things improved with time and software updates? Do you recommend it now? How would you recommend that People don't buy it?
@taeketuinstra9817
@taeketuinstra9817 Жыл бұрын
Watching this, I realise again how good my Kia eNiro is. It doesnt charge faster than 80Kw, but has none of the nasty surprises this Toyota gives! Charging speed goes down when turning on the heater?? LMAO.
@reinierdeman8147
@reinierdeman8147 Жыл бұрын
I really like Toyota. I have had multiple Toyota cars and still own an 11 year old Verso. I was hoping that the rumours about the less then great BZ4X were wrong and I could order one with confidence. But after seeing this test I am deeply, deeply disappointed. I hate to admit it, but I think I will pay the Nissan dealer a visit to check out the Ariya.
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't worry about it. Unlike most people commenting here I think Toyota wants to build a competitive BEV. I think they will. If this is a 1.0 product for them, so be it. Improvements will happen and this is still a car built on an TNGA platform, just the e-TNGA variant. A new platform is in the works and this one will be improved. Toyota knows this one needs to be improved but they needed to put something out there and did. Bjorn said Toyota emailed him and changes are coming in May. I think it's the first of a few that will happen. Maybe consider a later bZ from Toyota as if you live in Europe, Toyota said 6 new models are coming by 2026.
@camerascanfly
@camerascanfly Жыл бұрын
Why bother developing a car which is so bad nobody wants it? Seriously it can’t be that hard to build an okay-ish car as so many Chinese manufacturers show. But building such a lousy car, even if it is their first pure electric car, as the biggest car manufacturer leaves me speechless. I would rather not bet on them - not with that huge competition in EVs (from China alone), not in the next five years or so probably never. They should be ashamed …
@PaulCanters
@PaulCanters Жыл бұрын
Why not the Kia or Hyundai , they have their act together
@GBR9794
@GBR9794 Жыл бұрын
@@camerascanfly do you know China literally owned 80% of battery production resources and hold many battery patents? ofc they are going to build a better car with that crazy start-up, silly boy. it is just that the west aren't going to open up for byd and other Chinese ev brands.
@FutureSystem738
@FutureSystem738 Жыл бұрын
@@RayNLA Couldn’t agree more! I have owned many Japanese cars. Never ever again. 3.5 years ago we took delivery of our Model 3, and have never looked back- absolutely bloody fabulous!
@jesusmorales1197
@jesusmorales1197 Жыл бұрын
I have a toyota bz4x .I sure hope that Toyota works on this issue and recalls them to fix the problem.
@sylvainjamais904
@sylvainjamais904 Жыл бұрын
All in the name of science. I would have understood if you'd bail out. Thanks for sticking with it.
@Starcrow999
@Starcrow999 Жыл бұрын
"Ah! You are back in the car... yes, let's play some music." :-D
@FutureSystem738
@FutureSystem738 Жыл бұрын
Glad your wheels didn’t fall off. Toyota have raced from ahead of the game with the Prius to the back of the pack. Well done. 🤣🤣🤣
@JuanMii24
@JuanMii24 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for this and charging curve since the launch of the bz4x
@exil-mann8306
@exil-mann8306 Жыл бұрын
Its really a masterpiece to cool a battery down during a "not-so-fast" charging session in winter. And having a 18° to 30°C gradient min/max in the battery, sure ninja tech for long battery life. Are we still sure these Toyota engineers drove this thing before? Where they really engineers?
@kwiks987
@kwiks987 Жыл бұрын
Can gou imagine being a Toyota engineer, and then having to watch this…. I would do harakiri. This is not even good enough for a prototype.
@wintersun398
@wintersun398 Жыл бұрын
😫🗡️
@Knnnkncht
@Knnnkncht Жыл бұрын
Hahahahahah
@najakacholeretennick
@najakacholeretennick Жыл бұрын
Ok look at this other way: maybe it’s thirsty but at least it charges very slow 😂
@der-e-wolf
@der-e-wolf Жыл бұрын
e-Golf Charching speed for the win
@kixxxxxx
@kixxxxxx Жыл бұрын
After 3 years of Tesla I don't think I could could handle this software and charging experience. That was painful to watch.
@FutureSystem738
@FutureSystem738 Жыл бұрын
Ditto. 3.5 years of fabulous Tesla M3P ownership and we could never go back.
@TheTom2video
@TheTom2video Жыл бұрын
The Toyota bz4x and the cousin Subaru Solterra has entered the EV arena late and needs a lot of catching up to do. Their range and dc fast charging times are not competitive. ITS WAY OUT IN LEFT FIELD !!! They better do something fast or they’ll continue to lag behind. It’s been an embarrassing start. The recall back in June started it all. It took Toyota and Subaru almost 4 months to figure out the front hub issue. I originally reserved the Subaru Solterra over a year ago. Had to cancel back in September and proudly own a 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5. The Ioniq 5 was motor trend SUV of the year. That’s a well thought EV and it’s competitive.
@Youtubeuseritis
@Youtubeuseritis Жыл бұрын
Apparently in hot weather ac charging stops at 48A and hyundai says oops, bad luck 🙂
@oroozen
@oroozen Жыл бұрын
@25:44 - In my Ioniq I plugged an old 3.5mm plug (with no cable) into the Aux port, because every time Bluetooth or Android Auto disconnects, it falls back to the last used source, wich can only be the FM/DAB or AM radio if nothing is connected to the AUX port. And of course the radio is often the loudest source. Now "listening" to the delightful silenced AUX before connecting BT or AA, stops it from falling back to some loud radio station upon leaving the car.
@nomisastro2000
@nomisastro2000 Жыл бұрын
This car deserves to be in a bonus stage of a Street Figher game so it can be smashed to pieces, like it deserves.
@karl-erikkald8876
@karl-erikkald8876 Жыл бұрын
I just want to know what Toyota were smoking when they engineered this car. Well, it's probably still going to sell just cause it's a Toyota, which is synonymous to quality for many people. And after all, that's all that matters to Toyota.
@heymike7037
@heymike7037 Жыл бұрын
Canadian here, we call that "freezing fog". It's the same as when aircraft ice up. it's bad for aerodynamics, dangerous for planes but just messes up economy for cars. Crazy slow charging for such a big vehicle! Toyota fanbois will probably try and explain away the weaknesses of this vehicle and pretend it's good lol
@saschabender232
@saschabender232 Жыл бұрын
In Germany, Toyota had the advertising slogan “Nothing is impossibleToyota" Still true
@TuomasLeone
@TuomasLeone Жыл бұрын
Not fit for purpose. A shameful display of engineering from Toyota.
@suwantongphu916
@suwantongphu916 Жыл бұрын
We have reached a point where Chinese EV cars have surpassed TOYOTA's EV car. 😂😂😂
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Жыл бұрын
Toyota made a great advert for Tesla.
@davidgrea
@davidgrea Жыл бұрын
it was brilliant to watch and amazingly bad car for 2023 keep her lit
@excelrobot
@excelrobot Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but those matrix headlights are awesome!
@meersde
@meersde Жыл бұрын
Toyota has already communicated that it does not want to build BEVs through its permanent anti-BEV advertising. It has now also been proven that Toyota cannot build BEVs either. The next 5 years will be exciting as far as international market shares are concerned!
@The81ubb
@The81ubb Жыл бұрын
1000km Challenge with vw eup pls
@matthiashejlskov5008
@matthiashejlskov5008 Жыл бұрын
Similar consumption to my peugeot e-expert in winter. That is thirsty. Mine will cool the battery as soon as it's over 20 degrees when charging, but not very hard, it will cool a bit less than it would need to keep the same temperature, so it usually goes up 2-3 degrees during a fast charge. I've seen the same 100kw charge speed on the 7th fast charge in a day around 0 degrees though. So i'm winning on that point. 😂
@samijokinen9246
@samijokinen9246 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a good car for getting some groceries from a nearby shop and not much more. Not for road trips or for anybody driving a lot in a day. IMO
@naarealy
@naarealy Жыл бұрын
It's slow and thirsty, but worse it's inconsistent. Sometimes 60kw, sometimes only 20kw with no obvious reason.
@radbaron
@radbaron Жыл бұрын
At the 21:00 mark, that's RIME ice , the most scary thing a pilot can experience. Supercooled water that forms into ice when it hits something cold.
@EngineersFear
@EngineersFear Жыл бұрын
That lamp post in Tanum was already crooked in 2021 :)
@DawidChorabik
@DawidChorabik Жыл бұрын
About Guest Profile --> I would also design to reset every time. To start from the same settings if a new driver needs to use the car.
@Comm0ut
@Comm0ut Жыл бұрын
This sort of thing is why never to buy the first year of anything, never buy what has not already proven itself in massive fleet use, and never buy anything not endorsed by highly experienced mechanics who explain precisely why they prefer a given system. EVs are not a personal necessity so there is no real pressure to adopt before the market perfectly (or cheaply since anything good will remain good as a used vehicle) serves you.
@DefiantAML
@DefiantAML Жыл бұрын
Its a compliance car. Pure and simple. It sucks. Hopefully the new CEO will have the necessary vision to move into the new age. Personally I doubt it.
@bellshooter
@bellshooter Жыл бұрын
WOW Toyota are really behind the 8 ball here. They have squandered their EV lead of Prius days.
@joesomontan9374
@joesomontan9374 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reallly great and thorough video! Thanks for creating a follow up video aa well.
@ericvet8b
@ericvet8b Жыл бұрын
As slow as Renault Zoe!!! Glad Toyota listen and are implementing software update and allowing more DC charging, etc…, as at the moment is poor… I just can’t understand why it’s 2nd best selling EV in Norway!! After those updates…, still sounds to me as way behind competition…
@ontopoftheroof
@ontopoftheroof Жыл бұрын
I hope for a new test once the new software is out AND the ambient temperature is more in line with that of the other drives.
@jaumesinglavalls5486
@jaumesinglavalls5486 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that if you complain in the dealer about the car, they will tell you... BUT WE HAVE THIS AMAIZING TOYOTA MIRAI that can do (I don't know the range of the car) and charges in 5 minutes... (except if a lot of people charged the hidrogen before you... and this kind of stuff)
@peterkn2
@peterkn2 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully Toyota will take your feedback and update the firmware.
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 Жыл бұрын
They emailed him about this. They said they will.
@pcmadmann
@pcmadmann Жыл бұрын
It's pretty obvious why toyota didn't lend you a car...
@nbrainshutdown
@nbrainshutdown Жыл бұрын
The question is, could've they made a worst 2023 EV?
@ImmortaL778
@ImmortaL778 Жыл бұрын
not really the PSA cars are worse
@tylerfisher553
@tylerfisher553 Жыл бұрын
they made it bad on purpose. they want to prove that customers dont want EV's so they can keep making ICE vehicles
@mahu142
@mahu142 Жыл бұрын
@@ImmortaL778 are they? they cost less, consume less and charge faster. so specs wise, the stellantis EVs seem way better than Toyotas
@crestas9
@crestas9 Жыл бұрын
Toyota has a good plan for the future. A lot of EVs are planned
@MrKlawUK
@MrKlawUK Жыл бұрын
why does it limit speeds? Thermal build up - bad cooling in the battery system? Are they claiming its software and can be fixed? edit: heck battery wasn't even hot - what are they doing??
@patrickmaartense7772
@patrickmaartense7772 Жыл бұрын
this proves that range is not the holy grale, but fast charging is. 250KM to 300KM real world range is all you need if you can charge at average 100KW or more until 80% VW also does it wrong with their charging curve that MIGHT start at 120KW but declines after hittting 35% have a look at Tesla and KIA,hyundai etc, thats how its done.
@Surestick88
@Surestick88 Жыл бұрын
That ice is rime ice. The moisture in the air is liquid but supercooled and freezes as soon as it comes into contact with something. It's a problem for airplanes too but they have de-iceing systems to help. I doubt it was doing any favours to the aerodynamics of the vehicle.
@frederiekdemeyer4956
@frederiekdemeyer4956 Жыл бұрын
While looking at the charging speed, and the specific consumption, I begin to understand why Toyota believes H2 is their future...
@Quickyprd
@Quickyprd Жыл бұрын
Old Ioniq 28kWh still the beast !
@Swiftstar2
@Swiftstar2 Жыл бұрын
I became a fan of him, simply by the way he says "shiiiieeeettt" LOL.
@Mongooseman121
@Mongooseman121 Жыл бұрын
Missing the point of this car. It’s to demonstrate to Toyota owners just how much better “Self charging hybrids with no need to plug in” are!
@C22Acolyte
@C22Acolyte Жыл бұрын
This car BZ4Xs balls …
@MacGuyver85
@MacGuyver85 Жыл бұрын
LMAO. Thank you for the laugh!
@tobimai4843
@tobimai4843 Жыл бұрын
Its surprising how much Toyota managed to fuck it up, especially the consumption. Like most Toyota Hybrids are Really efficient
@SustainableGal
@SustainableGal Жыл бұрын
Love how the Renault Zoe charging curve is slightly flatter 😂
@Dinkleslurp
@Dinkleslurp Жыл бұрын
Imagine paying big bucks for a brand new car and you get limited like you didn't pay for the charger port and battery
@zeyuli5470
@zeyuli5470 Жыл бұрын
Ambient air temperature: -40 C
@ThorfinnurPetur
@ThorfinnurPetur Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Mr Björn
@catalincatalin2923
@catalincatalin2923 Жыл бұрын
this car is around 60k euro in Finland, why would anyone buy this car when there are so many better and cheaper options
@AntonEMaes
@AntonEMaes Жыл бұрын
This wouldve been a realy good Ev 10 years ago
@kasmopaya2676
@kasmopaya2676 Жыл бұрын
No, millennium falcon (model S) already out. The legend started 10 years ago.
@AntonEMaes
@AntonEMaes Жыл бұрын
@@kasmopaya2676 inflation adjusted this is much cheaper though and has AWD which Tesla didnt get until 2015. Losing to the i3 is pretty bad though
@ramy6286
@ramy6286 Жыл бұрын
I drive Subaru Solterra and to get the most range on the highway is to put the drive mode to Eco, and turn off single puddle and don't use paddle shifters to regen...best is to coast
@olahansson9219
@olahansson9219 Жыл бұрын
If Toyota includes 10% loss in the display, they will unfortunately show 90%/100% ~= 11.1% higher consumption in the display. You end up very close to the Kia EV6 AWD in consumption. 264*1.11 ~= 293.3 vs bZ4X 293.
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