You’re definitely right!

and its does not cost 70k like gr:D

Also WRX has no front and no rear LSD, just open

Active Torque Vectoring

@@illyack5593 yes it's what non-sports cars that don't have LSD have, it uses the brake pads haha, our minivan has it

Toyota is supposedly ramping up production so maybe it won't be as hard to get in a little while. I picked one up without much hassle for MSRP.

@@iamblamb501 that was for the circuit trim afaik, i just want the core with the performance package, but no luck. do you mind disclosing where you got yours from?

What dealership are selling GR corolla for msrp

@@seveng86sg none it’s bs. Core is marked up to 45k around me. Fa24 makes conservative 350whp with an intake and protune only….easy choice for me

@@ShaiyanHossain John Harvey in Louisiana. I also got a call from Granbury in Texas and they wanted to sell me one at MSRP as well.

The old school rawness ? 😅 The new WRX has the same awd system as the outback lol 😅 the same steering from other models lol My 2018 STi base model felt “numb” , not at all “old school” My GRC feels like a modded 11:36 2005 STi 😅, as mechanical in the clutch/brakes/steering/suspension as my base model c6 targa vette . All my 2018 STi had over the GRC is it’s brakes and it’s ability to hold a line under hard braking . The GRC needs to approach with an oversteer attitude because if it slips under braking , it’s going straight … So best to flick it through turns , which is more fun than the STi’s approach Oh and doing an oil change in a car SHOULD NOT require removing 6 screws , 5 body clips , and having road debris dropped on your face to take a plastic shield off the bottom of your car 😅 FU Subaru Also the multimedia is better in GRC , interior materials were better in the STi , and the interior space was leaguessss better in the Subie

I think you are confused between the wrx and the discontinued sti.

So no back seat in the corolla? That alone might double the insurance cost. That's considered a roadster

​@Align700nitro it will come back. The most ridiculous thing is that they got rid of the manual in the wrx for 2024. That is the dumbest thing they could have done

@@johndodo2062 not really , the wrx is not a car that needs a standard trans It’s like a sporty Volvo or something Real enthusiasts know the wrx have been shit since 2010

Loving my WRX. Totally stock hardware, but with Drunkmann OTS 93 octane tune for $150. Putting down over 317 whp and 348 wtq. Faster than my old B8 S4 :)

brother picked up a 22 wrx few months ago, it's an excellent car to drive. trunk is a dealbreaker though after living with a liftback the past 10+ years. will keep waiting for a GRC at msrp.

@@aaromon43 The Corolla has a tiny hatch area.

@@fullboost Yes, same footprint as my '05 WRX wagon/hatch, but smaller interior

Sorry to burst the bubble, the gr Corolla is already proven.. the gr Yaris that has been in Europe the past couple years is the exact same engine and awd. 500 hp stock block capable.

Agreed, Canada makes the difference far too large.

Yea, I am in ontario and while my wrx was on order and i was waiting for it to show up, they released the corolla. I called my local Yota dealer just out of curiosity and they said all of ontario was only getting 70 to 80 cars, whereas you can go to a dealership and buy a wrx the next day. Sure in some aspects its a better car, but whats it matter if you can't actually get one

@Kc - if you really want the GR Corolla in Ontario, call around, there seems to be a few available here and there out of the city centers. I have a dealer that has one for me if I want it. Will get more details but I am not sure it is worth the extra money. At least my trade value is top dollar, but it is still about $15,000 CAD on top of my trade. For that price I am also wondering if a 2022 Mustang GT with the track package (on sale for $51,000 CAD) is the better choice, or save some money and get the base GT (for $44,000 CAD)…hell, you can order a new Camaro LT1 with the 6.2L V8, Recaros and brembos for $49,000 CAD…lots of options at this price point. New Tesla 3SR+ or used 3LR AWD…

I'm on my dealer list for a CE GR. But, man I can get a WRX for under $40k CAD. The GR is in the mid $50k range. It's so basic for a 60k vehicle with taxes.

@@stefantakacs literally why I bought a wrx.

Owned a '02 WRX hatch for 17 years. Sold it and bought it's twin '05 to tide me over for the new WRX. Bought a GR. Love the WRX a lot of bang for the buck

I owned a 1999 impreza gt. I wish they will release a similar one. I miss it.

Hope you made the right decision and got the subaru. If not, make sure you get the 2023. No manual in the 2024 model, which is so dumb

@@johndodo2062What do you mean?

Congrats!

Yeah I've driven a lot of these newer cars I have not driven a gr Corolla yet but I will have to say they do not compare to the experience that you get an older Subaru. I don't care what anybody says. I will say though the GR/GV chassis WRX and STI are the softener ones I still absolutely love that generation. I had a 2012 sti and I still think it's one of my favorites. None of these new cars have very good sounds even with an exhaust on them. They all have similar farty four-cylinder sounds for the most part. They just feel so neutered and lifeless. When you open the hood on these newer ones everything is just black plastic and it's just so sad. As a car guy that was part of the pride and joy of the car you had. Looking under the hood and showing everybody how cool looked was always the fun part but now you just open the hood to a bunch of black plastic and it's just not the same anymore. I will never buy one of these new cars personally because they lack the Enthusiast feel. Everything feels like it was purposely built for the masses instead of just for that group of enthusiasts. I really want to like the new gr Corolla because it has a new different engine in it but I still feel like it's going to be similar and how it feels compared to the other cars in the category. And that includes the new WRX. I know times have to change but that doesn't always make it a good thing.

They’re making 320-350 to all 4 wheels with pretty conservative tuning on ethanol that would make it a completely different beast

@@cartere9981 Awesome, that aligns with this engine supposedly being a bit more tuner friendly. Might give it a tune after the warranty falls off 🙂

@@osielramirez7274 have you looked into a JB4? It bypasses the ECU so no worry of voiding the warranty.

Thank you!

I’ll try to set that up the moment I can!

there will be no sti for the new generation WRX.

Thanks, the gr makes for on-demand laughter

The joy of driving 1 ugly mofo !

The core trim GRC is selling used for 50k. A brand new Limited trim wrx os only 38k. That gives you about 12k to play with.

@@diallo1347 woah talk about price gauging

That's what I went with but it didn't work out, picked up a 23 WRX and after spending $5k on coilovers, sways, bushings, and 200tw, handling still wasn't great, it was good but not great especially compared to my husband's STI at the Willow Springs tracks. Our Subaru engineer friend was at the track event and we asked him and he let us know it's because the new WRX uses open front and open rear diff from the SUV/Crosstrek platform that just uses brake vectoring, where as the STI has front LSD, center DCCD, rear LSD. If the GR Corolla comes with all those then it'll probably handle much better.

the cobb access port is not a piggyback. its a tool to remap your ecu

​@@diallo1347maybe in your area but im getting a circuit for msrp.

Best of luck!

@@Realistick Thank you! LORD knows I will need all the luck I can get!

tires are going to make the difference not new pads or rotors.

What year is your Wrx

@@longshanks5531 2023

I actually made a dedicated video on that! You can watch that but if you want a brief synopsis. Get on a local, large dealer’s list and then hop on cars.com and call as many dealers as you can. Most will already be sold or have a big markup but sometimes deals fall through (which happened with mine before i got it) and then you can jump in.

warning card? you mean the sticker at the very end of the charger?😂

@@Realistick Looked like some sort of a thick cardboard thing in the vid. A sticker? That surely wouldn't make a diff.

@@bliglum Yes, only a sticker, it's unfortunate. I think it may work if you had a phone without a big camera bump (that way the charger is closer to whatever conductor is in the phone)

2024 pricing jumps the GRC base price close to $60k now. Going to cancel my pre-order, these are not worth that kind of $$$.

I wouldn't say it's the better vehicle. The mark up shows how asinine Toyota is now, even though the subaru destroys the corolla in overall utility and the awd is leagues ahead of the corolla. Also, a decent driver could get 5 flat to 60 in the subaru. I have one and I have eaten through over a foot of snow here in PA during a state of emergency with zero issues at all. The corolla may have awd, but everyone knows their system is inferior

​@stefantakacs they aren't even worth 40, let alone 60. That's so dishonest from Toyota, especially when they were bragging about keeping their prices low while other were price gouging. Pretty sure subaru is one of the only car companies that aren't actively screwing customers.

Where’s all those STi’s for sale? 🤣😂🤣 seems to me most owners are hanging on to them as they do not devalue and those will forever be the last STi…at least with a internal combustion engine, rumble and everything that defined them.

Not great! Id recommend going aftermarket if you want a nice sound system. The JBL is adequate at best.

@@Realistick thank you!

I have a 22 myself I got over the plastic the first day. Super easy to live with as well as it is a unique design!

No physical AC controls is quite annoying

It literally cost me 300$ to paint match…. 😂 hope you love that GR. But then again anyone paying 10k more for a GR because they can’t build deserves it. 💀

@@CodyTheReactor salty lol

@@LXIXBK I think the plastic cladding will also help slow down rust in northern climates

It's what I have been told but I can't find any evidence of it on the new one. Someone said I needed to take off the wheels to find the name, I was just trying to say that I liked the GR wheels more.

Here in the southeast, GR 5K over with some 10K (couple 15K). Got mine for MSRP +$1300 dealer add ons ($40.5K). Elantra N was high on my list

Good choice. That GR Corolla is priced about the same as the new GR Supra after dealership markups

One will last longer than the other

​@Shabam4895 so you think it's worth paying 10k markup on a corolla when you could just have bought a supra instead Toyota fanboys are so delusional 😂😂

I’ve gotten used to no armrest but I’ll have to look into that, thanks

@@Realistick I miss the convenience of storage more than the armrest

The looks are fine, but the performance is back of the pack.

I love it. Plus, us normies don't have to over pay to get into one.

@@oraclemiata845 luckily an intake and tune will push it to 400whp/wtq.

​@@oraclemiata845 more tunable than any of its competitors

@@theaman1676 99% of people are not going to tune a brand new car under warranty. If it can’t perform off the lot, it’s nothing more than a money pit at that point. I wouldn’t dare do any custom work to any vehicle with a warranty. Especially not Subaru’s given their known gasket/piston issues

Not to my knowledge, though it doesn’t really cause any problems for a majority of people. The last gen WRX was pretty robust outside of early trans issues and other quirks.

Wanted a WRX but I couldn't get past all of the plastic

I talked about this pretty extensively in the video, those numbers are not what I found, and I actually considered buying both of these (bought the GR).

The GR has poor visibility. Well I think so anyway

Get a steering damper for 80 bucks

Get an alignment I'm in the industry no new car comes from the factory properly aligned. Turn in improved drastically along with road manners. Also a drop it filter, a axel back exhaust and a carbon filter delete got me a full pound of boost more while keeping my warranty. I am a Subaru salesman and a former Toyota salesman. Service may be looking the other way on the carbon filter but it is extremely restrictive and the part replacement is cheap if you need to do a warranty claim.

@@matt2mWhich drop in air filter do you recommend ? K&N ?

1 had a 2015 WRX premium, with an ets intake and protune i was getting 36 mpg highway at 280 hp to the wheels

Thank you, they’re hard to get here too but it’s especially unfortunate for you guys as that awd and double LSD combo would be awesome up there! Hopefully 2024 will see an increase in production.

@jackiemcmillan8390 Exactly! Why bother market this car if they're barely bringing any in? It's a farce in my opinion.

@@Realistick Tyler, my GRC resets one of the configurable instrument displays every time I restart. Have you experienced this?

@@michaelxie4563 Yes, though it stopped when I adjusted the screen while on Guest profile (mine doesn't like to use my profile unless i manually select it each time). It tailors your settings based on profile.

Once you paint the fender flares to match, you get attention everywhere. Great choice!! 👍

Ive put 1500 miles on it 2 weeks and I’ve found it to be bearable, it’s firm but I think if you want a lot of performance, this is a reasonable car to live with. The noise level is more annoying to me than the ride quality but that too is liveable. I’ll definitely try to get the two together asap. Hopefully it will be a manual too!

Thanks. The reason I'm concerned about the ride quality is I purchased a Ford Focus RS without a test drive and it beat the crap out of me every time I drove it, and I had to sell it after only 8 months. I'm hoping the gr Corolla is far less firm than the Focus RS

Already handles tunes well. The FA24 is well known for handling power as there's been a Crosstrek with that engine from I think 2019? that's been making like 500 whp all this time

They will always be second.

@@oemj7147 what about you first one ?

I didn’t see any enkei logos on the new ones so it seems that way unfortunately.

It is most likely Enkei wheels The stock wheels resemble that of Enkei TD-5 and would be an insane coincidence if it isn’t made by Enkei

That’s awesome that dealers around you are doing that. There was only one remotely close to me who would do msrp but they didn’t think id ever get one since they had a couple customers ahead of me

Just sold my GR86 5 days ago. You will love it. It is so much more fun that the Miata in my opinion. It’s more stout, more sexy, and the sound is so great with pretty much every catback.

​@@garboi8976 what did you sell it for

@@bc5407 I had offers for 31-31.5k but I sold to a friend for $28,800

@@garboi8976 did you end up getting WRX?

@@bc5407 yes got a 2022 wrx limited. Pretty nice car. Not as young feeling as the 86 or I guess not as sporty feeling, but it is faster and way more practical

Ya sucks the 2022 WRX is so damn ugly

In today's market where there are a shortage of parts, making profitable car's which sell in volume is more important for small companies like Subaru. Most people are buying SUV's and CUV's that the market for an STi variant is too small to justify spending development dollars on when automakers are facing the transition to electrification. Enjoy these two cars while there are here because in the very near future you won't be getting any more manual transmission fun to drive cars.

Your feeling is incorrect sir. Official numbers are.... Wrx 0-60 in 5.3 second Gr 0-60 is 4.99 seconds. Add in the superior awd system in the subaru and there's no way your statement is even slightly accurate. Especially for 60k. It doesn't help that the gr had the typical videos corolla front end

I mean, if a 0 to 60 improvement of only .31 seconds is that impressive for you, you might want to go drive both. Maybe try them both on a snowy day

I will give it a shot, should have more press cars circulating here soon and the first one I really want is a Civic or Civic SI.

@Janoy Cresnova I just cross shopped all those vehicles and ended up purchasing the wrx back in December. I have had several Civic si's in the past and an integra gsr. This is my first awd car and I can honestly say I'll never go back to front wheel drive. The WRX is an absolute blast to drive in my climate where it's winter 6 months of the year.

@@Realistick thank you! Really curious how civic hatch stacks up with GTI. Is more power in GTI worth it the premium over the space and comfort of the civic hatch.

@@steve8803 Cool! I will likely be cross shopping them soon. Will take a look at WRX definitely. Just wish it came in a hatch.

​@@janoycresnova9156 Do yo want an auto transmission or manual?

The GRC is a small car

@@stevethomas760 Exactly, too small to have adults in the back

@@mistamaog Yes it's a tight back seat, but it also depends on both front and rear passenger height. Shorter front passengers move the seats forward giving rear occupants more leg room. Also how often do you truthfully have adult rear occupants in your car?

@@NyrixDerg in my case, almost every weekend, and it's going to be more often in the future, if everything goes well haha But yeah maybe if my sister sat in front of me, I could fit, but I was sad to find out that I couldn't sit behind myself ☹️

​@@NyrixDerg gr corolla is supposed to be a hot hatch that you can daily Actually with markups, you could just have bought a supra instead which will destroy that souped up corolla in the track and in the streets lmao

If you don’t mind a cheap interior and tight backseat, you should love it!

price difference is closer to $8-9k if you factor in 2k markup on a GR. A tune and light mods should make it just as quick in a straightline but it's still not the driver's car that the toyota is. That's what the STI used to be for and what the new TR is for (which is more expensive than the GR btw)

Idk about the brakes, but the gt trim (with cvt only) has Recaro seats