Good point. Also, as the Yaris is turbocharged, I bet spending a few hundred quid on a map will easily take the torque up to 300 lb ft, precisely twice that of the GT86.

I wish Toyota would dump that Subaru engine and put that one longitudinally instead. Not that it'll ever happen.

Also, people make excuses about how Toyota, the RICHEST car company in the world, couldn't afford to develop their own Supra, their own halo car...... And yet, this homologation special exists.. Furthermore, less wealthy car companies do it all the time, GM, Ford, Nissan and even little Mazda, all can apparently afford to develop their own sports car platform.. But oh, not Toyota, they can't do it because of affordability. They must share platforms... .. LOL Idiots.

@@bliglum depends on how many cars they plan to sell and at what price. Homologations can be sold at higher prices if they are selling a few hundred in a few markets. Selling a global car at higher rates has different costs associated with it.

@@noahp6886 I know, there are any number of excuses that can be made, bean counters, it's a numbers game, etc. etc.. But C'mon man! We're talking about the richest car company in the world. Acting like they can't afford to develop their own platform is just asinine. And yes, being efficient is what allowed Toyota to become the richest car company in the world.. But they've developed their own premiere sports cars every time before (granted, with some help from Yamaha on many occasions) Not sure what stopped them this time... The Subaru twins (BRZ, 86) were excusable. But not BMW. BMW's infamously garbage reliability does not mesh well with Toyota... To say nothing of the fact that the Supra will stay gimped, as BMW will not have it competing with their top models. Same reason why the 86 never got the power everyone cried out for, as of course Subaru could not have it competing with their Halo car, the WRX... So, Even though the MKIV Supra competed with M3's, Corvette's, and 911's in it's time.... This new "Supra" will remain a pretender. Only existing to suck up money from equally pretentious ignoramuses.

walk into the toyota dealership to buy a Z4M Coupé, a subaru and a single actual toyota

@@palmermonsen9098 It's 2020. Take it or leave it.

the GR supra is a bit of a shitbox though, the suspension is a total trainwreck

@@palmermonsen9098 It's funny how nobody seems to be complaining about Astons being Mercs, Bentleys being Skodas or Rollers being BMWs, but as soon as somebody mentions Supra, people are crying BMW. What is wrong with you, people!

@@tommihommi1 Dude if you're referencing Misha, he is insanely close-minded. There are so many other GR Supras that don't have that issue. The GR Supra is an excellent car. The reviews back it up.

In my opinion the best cars aren't perfect, they seem to have more of a soul with the flaws. Wish they would bring this to the US, hopefully we will get the GR- Corolla and we can have a little bit of fun on the other side of the pond. Thanks as always Henry, I always get excited when there is a little notification for a Carfection video. As a side note, would love to see you as a guest on Matt Farah's SmokingtTirePodcast sometime soon.

I saw that Chris Harris ended up wanting to make love to it. I was skeptical at first, also at the Harris part (!). But how lucky are we to have a car like this? We used to have homologation specials en masse. Now the black dials and racing DNA is no more. And the laughs per mile is high, especially because it´s flawed. But that hand brake, that engine and everything. It is the flawed ones we fall for, it is the flawed ones that are keepers!

Thanks for you honest, unhyped, review!

Nice honest review Henry and interesting to hear your thoughts on the circuit pack suspension. I had the same concerns regarding stiffness so ordered the standard spec car. The roads I will be driving it on in SE England are tight and bumpy at best where a bit of extra compliance is always welcome, plus I won't be tracking it as I have a modified 997.2 S for those duties!

This is a car normal people that dream of buying a supercar one day can actually afford- a huge win if you ask me. I hope they make money off this to inspire other manufacturers to try this absolutely fantastic format

That's why they needed to save the money on the Supra for hahaha

No no, it's: well our racing team can't race in 2021, guys can you maybe build a car for the public? Use parts of the corolla and Yaris maybe..

I reckon the Supra had to be a collab because they decided to prioritise the Yaris for WRC. They didn’t want to do two bespoke cars at the same time.

@Ben Church so youre saying that people with money cant be enthusiasts?

Wow. 1 car. Bravo Toyota for releasing a limited car and only one sportyish car.

@Ben Church im not saying that everyone can afford one, all im saying is that even though someone has money, they can still be enthusiasts

@Ben Church Just because someone has the money to afford to buy a car like this outright doesn't mean they not an enthusiast. That and the majority of owners will probably have this car on finance there aren't many people in the UK who can just go out an put 30k down on car. Even if you are earning say 50k with tax and all that I imagine you'll get people who have bought the Yaris GR on finance and intend to pay it off fully that way and people who are rich enough to throw £30k down. You know something though both of those can be enthusiasts.

@@ZREXER1250 I miss my Mk7 ST.. I sold it cos I wanted to get the mk8 ST but now I'm seriously considering why.... As I've herd the mk8 isn't all that.. and the Mk7 is better.. but can anyone confirm this?

​@@Chappers.Gamingit all depends, if you want more luxury and comfort, go for mk8. I have the mk7 st right now and enjoy the hell out of it, also the mk7 has more Tuning packages for more power if you are into that.

Affordable? Isnt it MSRP like 40,000 grand?

@@user-fo2el6jm7n It's around 30000 euros (around 33k if you take on the circuit pack).

Because this is a car that many of those who want one can actually afford to buy

This little monster is 80k with tax in Hong Kong

55k in Ireland. I can’t actually get my head around that figure .

Very Kind. Thank you.

PAUSE

Absolutely, +1 to ZR EVAN statement. Thank you guys.

Ayo g dont steal my profile pic

It’s 30 grand! It’s a rip off!

@@Kreature303 how on earth is it a rip off? Did you miss the part where he explained that Toyota have built a 3 door body that is totally unique to this car? Do you have any idea how much that costs? And they didn't stop there. They developed a brand new 4wd system that is totally unique to this car. And they built a brand new engine which is totally unique to this car. And a floor pan which is totally unique to this car. And body panels...and suspension design...and pretty much all of it. In other words do you not comprehend how much money Toyota are losing on each and every one of these, yet you think it should be as cheap as a Fiesta ST which shares 95% of its parts with a standard Fiesta? Your logic is crazy. The education system really is being undermined when you read the nonsense people post in the KZfaq comments section.

@@MD-uu5nt Haha, calm down you fucking minge, its still a Toyota Yaris. 4 years ago you could buy a brand new Focus RS for the same money, which is a lot more car. Probably get a decent used one for about £20k now? It’s a lot of car for sure, but £30k is still steap imo. Now take a deep breath and understand people are entitled to their opinions, you absolute helmet.

@@Kreature303 the Focus RS is a very compromised car in comparison to this. Ford did not put anything like the R&D into that Toyota have here. Hence why it gets a pretty lukewarm reception now from both Ford enthusiasts and car reviewers. I drove one a couple of years ago with the intention of buying it but it didn't feel special at all. The ride was unbearably harsh for a car that is supposedly a rally car for the road. "its still a Yaris" is such a dumb comment when it literally shares none of the mechanical components from the standard Yaris, not even the floor pan. I often consider many Skoda/Audi/VW the same because they all share the same MQB floor pan. This doesn't share the floor pan with any other Yaris so how can it still be "just a Yaris"? Or is the current Golf still the same as the mk1 just because it shares a name? Nice insults. I wish I knew some of them in primary school.

I love this comment and totally agree haha!

Tha's a keeper!

Hear*

They are the opposite of motortrend

Shhhh

@@huzaifayounus6896 lol. Im saying shh dont give them any ideas

@@UserEighteen sorry

Watch the ads in full then...

I'm glad the wheelbase is longer than it looks, rwd bias would be snappy af

Long wheelbase = more stable in a straight line at higher speeds. More important is the right combination of wheelbase and a wider track at the front or back axle for cornering performance and of course the right weight distribution

@@Cowabunga46 would you say engine and brakes are also important?

Compared to the 2700mm wheel base of the FK8 Type R, it's relatively short. It is a much smaller car as you've mentioned.

longer than s15

ive held out getting a new car since my first a diesel manual. granted i have a 2020 outlander i daily but its not really my personal and paid for car. ive always wanted a true old school purist car to buy as my very own personal driver, but nothing new felt as good as an old type r, e36 2.8, golf gti, etc. modern manuals are still so disconnected from your feet. i literally made up my mind that my next car will be an ep3 type r until this came along. the red line reminds me of the ej2, the whole three cylinder high revving turbo with a genuine manual plus good old toyota level build quality. im getting this instead for sure. the ep3 type r is lovely but the UK are really being hardasses with older vehicles. this ticks all the boxes and i want it whilst im still young and single. god bless you toyota x

That's also because the only people to test them are enthusiasts.

Same here, have arranged a test drive tomorrow (but I give it low chance the Toyota dealer will leave the car to me alone without someone as a co-driver)

if I had the money, I'd keep an 86 and buy the Yaris. While also keeping an eye out on the last gen of the 86 coming next year. I think they're both interesting "feasible" sports car I guess. Both used in motorsports etc. They are really interesting. I'm sure in the future both of these models would be sought after for their importance and the way they drive.

How about fitting this 1.6 engine into GT 86

@@callsigncrusader9877 hahah! if it would fit! that's the biggest downside of the 86. It's engine space and hood.

@@birdsarcasm exactly

@R A eh yes!

@R A Just about every rally homologation car has gone on to be extremely collectible. Toyota selling this car in limited numbers coupled with the nearly universal praise it has received pretty much cements this as fact.

lol must be from Robert Mitchell video

@@gtr5860 yes, he had a good take in his video

The car community is a weird bunch on the financial side

@@MaddNomad1015 ahaha true, most of the times. I've been lucky to do well for myself and never get caught in financial traps but you never know 😂

@R A congratulations? For a guy with 25 years of experience, one wouldn't expect such a childish argument about something that you clearly have no knowledge about. In my local Porsche owner's club, people are talking about this car, for instance (from all ages).

Yes I really want one, I'm Canadian

@@TrippingUnicorn They sold 2x amount of expected volume for this year in our country and that is while NO ONE even sat in the car yet. So i doubt they will be entering another markets soon... although i wish you the ability to buy one for sure. It is kind of unique car in 2020.

in India too.

I'm hoping for an AWD GR Corolla hatch, since they at least sell that chassis here. Real shame they didn't release this car in North America though, there's definitely a market for them.

@@dln.sweeney You never know in NA. It is small car with manual transmissions, which is exact opposite of what people buy there (in Europe, we like small cars and Manual). But considering it is limited series i still think they should offer it there, they would sell quite a few for sure :)

@R A well RA please explain?

How about the Focus RS and the M2? But yes this is the first car to get up there with those guys.

Would rather have the veloster N DCT so I can have fun, and not kill my foot in traffic

@@TheTemplarnight good to know. however he was talking 'for drivers car enthusiasts' only.

Toyota are going to make 25,000 though. How many 1M did BMW make? 3000?

@@v4skunk739 They intended for 2700 but made about 6200. I don't think Yaris will retain/ increase its value right from the get-go like the 1M ( since Toyota will continue to make it as long as we buy them ) but it ticks all boxes to be a modern classic.

@@thatcopenguy I agree. But it will hold its value until next batch in 2021. They all sold out already.

No, its a mini GTR 😂

@@v4skunk739 Toyota already announced that they will make more of this car if there enough demand for it, which is honestly really not a bad idea.

@R A You must be a troll for sure. A roughly 5 second 0-100 is slow for you? From a Yaris? Are you crazy?

@R A there’s always one 🤦🏻

Me too, but will arrive in January.....👏👏

@@mariobotti1952 You lucky bugger. This will be my third Toyota. I had an 2012 GT86 and Yaris 1.8TS that was eventually modded with a supercharger...I am hoping this GR rekindles the fire on the old Yaris, man I miss that car.

if your grandma is Michèle Mouton then it still checks out i guess

The GR YARIS is what the grandson inherited and put some mods not from eBay

@@TehMr didn't know you could order bolt in 4wd systems off eBay?

@@JohnFrumFromAmerica no I didn't I also found air suspension units that's are quite decent. Its been 10years since I looked at that market

Worlds fastest Grandma

barely

Being skinny helps

It was more amazed he fitted so well inside the A110... :)

His upper body is normal, it is the legs that makes him tall. Good to know for long legged people.

@@Franzino the Alpine has way more space (not storage space) than it looks from the outside. I was never able to fit in a Mazda MX5/Miata, even less so in the Alfa 4C, the Alpine on the other hand is big enough that i can see the road from the drivers seat. So i can't see why he wouldn't fit inside the A110.

Well. Due to the Supra, they’re like in-laws, bmw and Toyota

@@thevoid1337 It all makes sense now 😁

That would be the perfect place to own one for sure. No one has explained why North America has been left out. Perhaps it's because the US doesn't buy small cars in general in large enough volumes, that their giving it a miss but it seems unfair to include Canada, if that's the case.

I know, but there are rumours we'll be getting a Corolla with this powertrain. TBD

@@ThePilotGear A 4wd Corolla with this engine would be absolutely SICK, this will bring back the Toyota of the 80s back

@@rogerbarrett9920 I'm pretty sure its because like 5% of people buy cars in north America anymore lol everyone is just buying SUV's that have less room then a civic

@@ThePilotGear Ouu that would be amazing especially in the hack back!!!

I thought that too. 🤔

Maybe some combination of tired and happy.

Bit nasaly I thought too!

It's a unique sound as there are elements of an uneven cylinder count such as Audi RS engines however also has elements of a six cylinder, I wonder what it sounds like with the speakers disconnected. I'll try pull the fuse out and give it a spin!

Definitely all speakers, there is zero intake and exhaust noise from my experience. It's all artificial.

@@sodazman will sound decent with a nice exhaust system mind you. Very much a baby V6 from a sound perspective!

Ha! Stay tuned for the incoming 992 GT3 😂 congrats for your machines!

wait WHAT!?

The GR Supra has 348mm brake rotors whilst the GR Yaris has 356mm brake rotors!

It’s tuff being a rally fan in America

Not to worry; though we won’t be getting this specific little pocket rocket, Toyota has promised that we too will be getting a hatchback power by the same engine. That of course means it’ll probably be in the form of a Corolla, which we hope will be available then in a hatchback. Being a bigger car it’ll probably be slower, but by then there would be enough aftermarket support for the engine to make good power, at least, the way I see it. We can all hope and dream that maybe, just maybe, we’ll also get it in AWD instead of the standard FWD.

Isnt there a yaris adverised on the toyota usa page?

@@iBOOM there is but it isnt the GR its the boring one LOL aka the lame one

@@RaheelZahir The Yaris in USA is a Mazda 2. Toyota has come right out and said on their website, sorry USA, you don't get this awesomeness. But there might be something, so sign up here for marketing purposes. The thought is a GR Corolla (hopfuly hatch) with this drivetrain. Won't be as awesomely small, light and tuned, but hopefully it'll be something decent.

@@taronobusawa1972 lol i saw that when i was doing some googling to see if the GR yaris will be coming to the states. idk corolla vs yaris id want the yaris. because americans dont like small cars this is why we dont get good cars some of the times for example it took ages to finally have the RS6 be available here

Isn't it common with modern cars? A lag to curtail emissions

Heavy flywheel to cater for the torque

@@azaboy2 It's probably not a heavy flywheel because the engine has a balancer shaft. toyota-club.net/files/faq/20-10-20_faq_g16-engine_en.htm

BMW with electronic throttle do that sh*t too, it's outright dangerous.

@@idokwatcher2062 it's not just BMW, it's most modern car drivetrains