Toyota Landcruiser LC300 FULLY EXPLAINED - offroad, towing, dirt, onroad review vs LC200

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L2SFBC - Robert Pepper - auto journo

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#lc300 #landcruiser #landcruiser2022 #toyota #landcruiser300 #lc200vslc300
In May 2021 I became one of the first people outside Toyota to drive the new Toyota Landcruiser LC300 at a special preview event run by Toyota. We drove, back-to-back, a pre-production LC300 with two LC200s. We drove on bitumen, dirt, we towed and drove offroad. This video is all that I learned that day, plus everything else since to give you the best possible view of what the LC300 is, and is not.
On the support blog post you can find detailed differences between the six Australian models (far as we know them!) and answers to the questions/clarifications I guess this video will generate:
l2sfbc.com/LC300
Chapters - use this links to jump around the video:
00:00 Introduction & warning
00:32 What is the LC200/300?
01:00 About the LC300 test
03:37 Dimensions, angles, clearances
04:50 Weights
05:51 Landcrewness - Toyota's design philosophy for Landcruiser
09:30 Models, interior, exterior
12:48 Boot (trunk, cargo area)
13:51 Models and pricing (see website for detailed spec matrix)
15:46 Chassis
17:31 Engine overview
18:48 Fuel capacity, range and efficiency
19:27 The 3.3 diesel - do you need to be concerned about it?
25:46 Transmission
27:07 Maximum select vs command select
27:55 Suspension
29:52 E-KDSS
34:09 Wheels & tyres
35:27 Toyota accessories
36:19 Driving impressions - bitumen
38:50 Driving impressions - dirt
41:02 Driving impressions - towing
43:07 LC300 offroad systems explanation - overview
44:34 MTS - Multi Terrain Select explained
46:40 Drive Modes (onroad)
47:25 VDIM and AIM (Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management and AWD Integrated Management)
48:42 MTM - Multi Terrain Monitor
48:58 Crawl control
49:04 Cross-axle differential locks
52:04 GRC Gradient Release Control
52:28 Turn Assist
53:42 Driving impressions - offroad
57:14 Safety features including headlight systems (AHS/AHB)
57:18 What could the LC300 have been?
1:01:04 My final three thoughts to summarise
1:02:10 Competitors
(there may be a test to see if you can remember the 1000 or so LC300 acronyms)
You can also read my written review here:
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@juliandrake7862 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation with concise explanations - take it as high praise - I started my career as a Product Planning Engineer at Toyota handling LandCruiser 80 and the first Prado.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I do take that as high praise thank you!

@stolzhammer3239 2 жыл бұрын

The best of all of the Aussie review videos that hit KZfaq on 12 AUG 21. The only video to not pretend that the stock file footage was theirs was appreciated. Much more detail on the whole experience, but especially on the technical details. New subscriber here, well done.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks! Good to know what I did right too :-) Yes they supplied the camera crew; the footage is partially shared across all 6, and partially specific to me. The rest is taken off official Toyota videos, or my own stock, or me talking.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I hope to do a longer review yes

@G3meOver 2 жыл бұрын

This is years of experience crammed into a 1 hour video review.

@EngineAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

One of the best channels on KZfaq! You deserve to have way more subs than you do! Keep up the good work and I'm sure you'll be found by the algorithm!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do! Please share :-)

@jimbojones2457 2 жыл бұрын

What a fantastic, professional, factual and detailed real world review of a new vehicle! I see so many youtubers put up videos spewing absolute garbage with zero facts about what they're talking about. This is truly refreshing mate! SUBBED! Keep up the excellent work!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks much appreciated 👍

@nickroberts7070 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Robert. Appreciate the professionalism and effort that you put into all of your work.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated, that sort of comment keeps me going :-)

@GrenadierMichael 2 жыл бұрын

Robert … I don’t know of another motoring journalist anywhere in the world who produces videos with as much insight and information as you do.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@MadMatt4WD 2 жыл бұрын

Agree

@GrenadierMichael 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC I’ll be looking forward to you getting your hands on an Ineos Grenadier (next year?). 🙂

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I hope so too!!

@offroadingfoz 2 жыл бұрын

That’s why his handbooks are invaluable

@headingscrub9035 2 жыл бұрын

Great work Robert thanks. The effort you put into your work is appreciated mate.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated! Please share ;-)

@fakhruddin123 2 жыл бұрын

This video should be made the Induction Video for all new LC300 owners. its so freaking solid. Big Thanks from Kuwait.

@lukebryce5097 2 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed, very thorough. Looking forward to more reviews on the 300

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks please share 👍

@lesleywhite6285 2 жыл бұрын

Wow!! A well constructed and detailed review. Love love love ACRONYMS!! 🤣🤣 Awesome work! 👍🏻

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@johnpaine7609 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great report. Look forward to your next drive/video

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John

@ryanorchard 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks for the in depth explanations that others wouldn't bother with.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Please share :-)

@jeyaramanans 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the very detailed master class. DId enlighten a lot on the tech behind LC300. The split tail gate was a disappointment. but certainly not a deal-breaker. Still wonder why I didn't stumble upon your channel earlier. Subscribed. Good on you. Keep up the great work!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@davidqie 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the amazing presentation, really appreciate your great effort!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@MohamedAlDoy 2 жыл бұрын

I bought LC300 GR-S 3 weeks back thanks to your video Robert.👍

@paulczernotowycz2305 2 жыл бұрын

Comprehensive and no BS, well done!

@ijbaker 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely informative review which goes way beyond anything else I've seen on the LC300 as of mid-August 2021. Well Done Robert!! BTW do we know if the new oiler will be AdBlue?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry did not confirm

@Abu7929 2 жыл бұрын

Great work well done. Car looks like a beauty! I had hoped for a large increase in payload but didn't realistically expect it

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

You and me both! 1000kg would be nice but we will take every kg we can get!

@ianmoore4327 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review. As a 200 owner, I got a appreciation of the evolution of the LC. Well done.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks please share 👍

@MadMatt4WD 2 жыл бұрын

Well Robert that was a very good video. You have actually made me want to take one for a run. I love that it's got some genuine offroad features that I can control as driver. The turn assist is exciting.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks much appreciated!!

@craigdavid6668 2 жыл бұрын

Turn assist has been available for many years on the 200.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

It has...see my 200 video for more

@MadMatt4WD 2 жыл бұрын

@@craigdavid6668 I was more getting at the fact it will actually have some real Offroad advantage given you can leave the cdl engaged.

@followme4wd866 Жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, what a detailed and informative video as always. Im now 335 day waiting for my VX which is disappointing, but understandable. talk soon.

@V8LC100 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent work Mr. Pepper. Thx for sharing for all of us Tojo fanboys.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure! Please share :-)

@stevenlefebvre2991 2 жыл бұрын

Great job very thorough review.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly! Please share :-)

@ggzhhgao 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for such detailed review. I am not sure how much are the media restricted by toyota since you were invited to do the test, but I specially apprecite that you pointed out some of the issues of this prototype instead of just simply reading the script of how good this car is like others. Looking forward for a more independant review and comparison on the produciton model.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

We aren't directly restricted...but indirectly you can be blacklisted so there is an incentive to be nice to the car. I fall in and out of favour depending on who is running PR at the time and what I've said - there's at least one carmaker who isn't in my fan club right now, but you just have to wait as journalists usually outlast PR chiefs! Toyota have always been fair to me though. Even when I find things wrong with their spec sheets :-) I do think it is a good car though. I would own one and drive it anywhere. I like it.

@rossdrayton5476 2 жыл бұрын

You could teach the other journalists on how to provide consumer advice. Excellent review. Have now subscribed and liked. 👍🏻

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and welcome!

@emiliacayabo2915 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information that I've watched

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@wyattfamily8997 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent coverage of the majority of questions in the minds of prospective owners.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, please share :-)

@DC-ri2cn 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you mate. Appreciate your work.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure! Please share :-)

@hlegends1913 2 жыл бұрын

GREAT presentation, couldn't skip anything, you covered everything perfectly, 😏 'considering some covering back seats ,leather and whatever else '!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Please share :-)

@Birdsville2014 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Many thanks!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you would appreciate a share 👍

@smashedhulk8492 2 жыл бұрын

Great work.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@pratikshetty2908 2 ай бұрын

Toyota should hire this guy, even they did not present their car in much details😅

@Voltedge89 2 жыл бұрын

This video has all the information I needed before purchase. I am almost settled on buying the highest trim of the 300 series, I won't need to offroad for a while since I modified my Y62 to do the offroad duty it has 230k on it and still going as good as new. What is making me hesitant is that my y62 is still going strong but its getting a bit rough for daily driving due to modifications and the desire to drive something new is strong.

@pinkipipe 2 жыл бұрын

Great job 👏🏻

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😁 Please share!

@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 2 жыл бұрын

Looks so much better than the Lexus variant we get in the states.

@ThePhantom41 2 жыл бұрын

Really good coverage and teasing out of the details from information available. Toyota does appear to have built a decent jigger.

@nickjayawick610 2 жыл бұрын

Nicely done

@Daryl465 2 жыл бұрын

Best LC300 video out there

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you..can you say why please?

@ggzhhgao 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC There is not a single LC300 review that covers this much in details. Not to mention a comparison aganist the 200. You also did great in pointing out some of the issues of this prototype while others who releases at the same time only praise how great of a car it is and not mentioning any of the issues that you found.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe they didn't find them!

@Daryl465 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC so what size wheels and types do you think will fit on LC300 ?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I give it 47 seconds before someone slaps on 35s...I suspect they will fit with a lift. Obviously not a question I could ask Toyota!

@motoring8407 2 жыл бұрын

Just found you, great work, subscribed and will be a regular

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve much appreciated 👍

@frankb3882 2 жыл бұрын

That was a Very Interesting review on the LC 300 there Robert. I watched it from start to finish and rewinding it several times to clarify what you’ve said. Not reading other comments from others I was just wondering is the alternator and starter motor still at the bottom of the engine bay area. I have a 2016 79 series pre-DPF which runs extremely well but my main concern is river crossing and beach driving.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Wading depth 700mm and Toyota have focused on water sealing and placement so I wouldn't be concerned.

@philg2468 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic review - thankyou for your effort and hard work to put it together. Uncommon tyre sizes and uncommon offset in a 6 stud rim. Might need to upsize to 285 to get taller tyres although some brands are available in a 265/70/18.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

There's quite a few tyres in 245/75/17 which is what I'd run. Try my tyre calculator -> l2sfbc.com/tyre-size-calculator/

@briananddianehardy8598 2 жыл бұрын

Robert, Thank you for your detailed review by far the best one, its great that you were able to compare the 200 series with the 300 series. I’ve read a couple of reviews and concerns regarding the new diesel motor and the potential build up heat so close to the underneath side of the bonnet, is there a need to be a concern regarding this?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I cannot say at the moment and my test was not long enough. I would however give Toyota benefit of the doubt on this. There is a bit of scaremongering going on to mine views and exploit natural distrust of new tech. I think an open minded approach is best with a degree of scepticism but I think Toyota would have a decent chance of getting it right.

@jasonsabeeney3208 2 жыл бұрын

Robert well done on the video. Very informative. I am very jealous you got to drive a 300 series so early on. A few comments. How much clearance is under the lift up tailgate? How tall are you? It looked like in the video that your head only just cleared the tailgate. Where you on a slope or was the ground relatively flat? Secondly a small correction Crawl in the 200 can be over ridden and it resumes again. That is certainly the case from 2012 onwards. Also are you sure all models have traditional KDSS? Apart from the Sport with E KDSS, Thanks again for taking the time to explain the detail.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jason - I would be 6ft 1 in my boots maybe a touch more and it was flat. Should have put that in. No models have KDSS except for GR Sport with E-KDSS. Thanks for the update.

@johntowe4371 2 жыл бұрын

Thx very informative 👍

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks please share 👍

@sculder7 10 ай бұрын

Great video. Lots of good detail. Any idea what the RTI score is for the LC300?

@L2SFBC 10 ай бұрын

No idea sorry

@dgh6673 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!!

@davidconsalvo1711 2 жыл бұрын

Great presentation, will be interesting to see how the new donk puts up with all the weight of accessories & tow weight in the real world, especially with 100k plus on the clock, ive owned 3 200's & still currently have 2 & can't say after comparing the two will be running off to my local dealer to drop the hammer on a new one.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks that's good insight. Would like to see your views a couple of years in. Time proves...

@GodsEyeQLD 2 жыл бұрын

This just made me love my LC200 even more

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Why so?

@nicolasrosa37 2 жыл бұрын

The one with the not so reliable 4.5 V8 and sluggish trans?

@Malc664 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic schooling of the 300 series, thank you Robert. You've sold me on this car so I hope Toyota give you a really good deal if you wanted to buy one. 👍🏻

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Hah thanks, I'm actually looking at the new Ranger to replace my Ranger PX but if I was after a wagon, a GX would be on the list if I suddenly got another 100,000 subs or Patreons! I'm hoping to test a 300 for a while, got some interesting jobs in mind.

@Malc664 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC That's another interesting one. Is it the one that hasn't been released yet and may be a V6 diesel? I love the more American look of it. It will tow your 12ft camper van no worries.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Yes not released yet

@offroadingfoz 2 жыл бұрын

Good broad coverage, interesting some things you mentioned by text only… why no tire pressure monitoring for Australian vehicles? Well done.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Why only text? Basically running out of time to re-shoot the video, and also it's long enough as it is. With text I can double up on info. TPMS is not mandatory for Australian vehicles so that's why it is rarely included. I think it should be mandatory as it's a great safety feature.

@anbu999 2 жыл бұрын

Subscribed. I love your review probably the best one so far. Fair and logical. I agree with you, GX trim is the landcruiser to get, if you want comfortable people mover, other brand can do it better.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, yes save $47k over the GR Sport!

@xiaojack2952 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC I heard LC200 KDSS will lead to hard lift suspension system, because of it car sway.

@Mvishnoi 2 жыл бұрын

In depth analysis , clarity , simple delivery , top class auto journalism , you mate IMHO tied in with Thomas @ autogheuful as the best out there by a mile , I might have missed this , in terms of comfort refinement Where would you place it amongst its competitors?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Very high due to the soft long travel suspension for primary ride quality. Secondary ride good too. Thank you for the feedback!

@backdoc94 2 жыл бұрын

The GX or GLX might be a great option instead of the Grenadier I have been considering. I would like to see when a GVM upgrade becomes available and have it performed pre-registration.

@XillOverdrive 2 жыл бұрын

this feels like an academic video, well done

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I am the Dirty Academic 😁😁😁

@Billydevito 2 жыл бұрын

That was a lot of info! Thanks. Is the 10 speed a computer clutched auto, like a DSG, or a proper auto with a lockup converter?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Torque convertor auto with extra lock ups.

@donmclean1894 2 жыл бұрын

Great review Robert With all the new electrics has the 300 got remote start

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Not that I've seen and thank you

@jamestreloar5827 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@L2SFBC Жыл бұрын

Thank you James, much appreciated!

@Coastmac2001 2 жыл бұрын

They were pre production mules only , not able to be sold & only on a restricted registration . Sales start today 7/12, with some owners being able to finally get their vehicles . Full dealer stocks available before the end of this wk

@crewzincool 2 жыл бұрын

Nice educational info thanks.looks like a great upgrade. Would have liked to see the petrol engine in Australia. I've really gone off Diesel engines for reliablity

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Same!!

@davidbutler3661 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the information. I am seriously looking at upgrading my 105 landcruiser that I bought new in 2005 for a 300 GX. 470 K of virtually trouble free motoring except for 4 air conditioner fixes will be hard to beat though. I just hope the V6 will be reliable.

@paulmcintosh5589 2 жыл бұрын

Hot v6 engine, 2 turbos sitting in the middle of the v shaped engine it will be interesting when the tuners start making them hotter with more fuel, Is the starter motor still in the middle as well?? Like the diesel v8.

@paulmcintosh5589 2 жыл бұрын

Mean while diesel fuel quality is terrible, with these highly technical injection systems this will be interesting for this engine, petrol is far more forgiving.

@Gemini_0815 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice video again Robert. A remark regarding the tires section: 17” rims are not saving weight compared to larger rims with identical wheel size because the tires are heavier. Also, there is a very noticeable difference in handling between a 17” 70 section and an 18” 65 section. I know this from experience because I’m running both 17” and 18” on my Prado. 18” in my case are Winter tires, 17” are Summer tires. The 17” are much softer and vehicle control is so much worse. But I use the car in off-road situations in summer, so I keep the small rims.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

No, low-profile tyres are heavier than higher-profile. I have weighed many of them and there will be a video on this in due course - you gain weight by going from 17 to 18, all else being equal, as the rim weight is more than the tyre weight. There is certainly a handling difference with profiles and the best carmarkers even change their ESC and suspension calibration according to profile, but 65 to 70 is hard to pick and I suspect the differences between summer and winter tyres are greater than the profile.

@Gemini_0815 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC interesting, thanks for the response. I will put my wheels on a scale next April when I swap to summer tires again and will provide you with the results :)

@aaroncarlton2619 2 жыл бұрын

well done Robert , i notice that they have now released the Tundra in the states with a hybrid option and i am thinking it is on the same chassis as the 300. shame they dont look at bringing that in - would save a lot of people doing chops on the wagons ! cheers ATOC

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!!!

@larkhill2119 2 жыл бұрын

Bugger have to buy one now.

@davidlewington3324 Жыл бұрын

Great to see a reviewer that does not appear agenda driven, either biased to the product itself or to their own channel's traffic potential. I subscribed for that reason, good information that seeks to inform and educate and with similarly informed opinions based on reasoning and explanation. What some may refer to as good "signal to noise" in scientific jargon. Did we ever find out if the 300 GRS front and rear lockers, when individually applied, cancel traction control for the other axle? Also, do the other models of the 300 have sway bars that are fixed and potentially better for on-road dynamics ? There was some question about the e-kdss increasing body roll around corners at speed.

@L2SFBC Жыл бұрын

I didn't finalise that question but I will ask again.E-KDSS should minimise body roll to at least that of the standard cars; it's more of a disconnect for offroad than a onroad design.

@davidlewington3324 Жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC it would be great to see an updated review to tie up loose ends and see how things have panned out ..oil usage,hot v6,body roll grs vs other 300,traction control off if locking other cross axle etc

@angelotsi849 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, are you planning on updating to the 300 from the Ranger?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

No planning on the new Ranger now! And NOT a megabuild throw everything at it!

@mobalance4736 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome vehicle.

@cheromarickamazie7850 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@MrGgraham76 2 жыл бұрын

great video! trying to understand the reduction in fuel tank size and range, but they have obviously prioritised payload at this stage. Surely the 5 seater would come with more traditional sized tank, or maybe its smaller to allow for "future efficiencies".

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Possibly also for AdBlue (DEF)

@iMernerner 2 жыл бұрын

Front overhang.... Is... somewhat Long. 32degree of approach angle is good. it takes 17inch rims. That's another plus

@tempestv8 2 жыл бұрын

Any idea why the GX has a different offset wheel to the rest of the models? And what a shame Toyota isn't offering diff locks on the rest of the range. Even a Prado GXL now comes with rear diff lock as a standard factory fitment. Single or twin cranking batteries? Is the loading height for the cargo area higher or lower compared to the 200 Series? Is the alternator placement better on the 300 Series? Timing belt or chain? What capacity winch is Toyota offering as an accessory for that alloy bar? Are the DPFs mounted low like the 200 Series or higher up? How well is the intercooler protected? Is over bonnet visibility better or worse compared to 200? Does the GX have air con vents to the 2nd row seats? How does the electric steering feel compared to the 200's hydraulic system? What viscosity engine oil does the diesel use? Great review of the 300 Series - the best I have seen so far! Well done!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Hi and first thanks! Answers: 1. different offset wheel as the tyre is narrower 245 vs 265, and therefore requires a narrower rim but the width must be the same or close. The 245 would be lighter than the 265 for sure contributing to the GX's best payload figure. 2. Don't know re batteries. 3. Loading height wasn't measured is about the same. 4. Alternator - didn't get a chance to see, but Toyota have gone on about waterproofing so I expect it would be ok. 5. DPFs sorry don't know 6. Alternator don't know either, or its capacity (did ask) 7. Winch. Didn't see. Would expect 9500l which is fine for the 300 (see my snatch block videos for wjy) 8. Over bonnet same as 200. 9. No idea re GX, there wasn't one to look at. 10. Electric steering feels fine compared to 200. The only thing wrong with EPS is whoever built it. You can argue the point for very specialised sportscars but not for 2500kg 4X4s. It's just better. 11. No idea re oil. I'll plan to cover these if I get onto the press launch where we can actually spend more time with Aussie spec vehicles. It was a very rushed 3/4 day...even went without lunch so I could get more done!

@boyardosalmon 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you Robert! Why would Toyota turn off breaking traction control on the unlocked axle? That makes the Ranger more capable than the Hilux for example both rear locked. Did you had a chance to ask them that? I think it can be a huge disadvantage. Cheers from Mexico!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know and didn't get an answer. Odd as the Prado 150 and others don't. Possibly it was a pre-production thing.

@richardmalone3172 2 жыл бұрын

I liked canaverous. Did you mean cavernous? Great review. Thanks.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Was thinking of the lunch I'd missed out on to work through so a bit of carnivorous got in there :-)

@jacobrutherford2407 2 жыл бұрын

The smaller petrol is more powerful? Did u mix those around?

@williamtio888 3 ай бұрын

how do we know when the sub tank start being used? every time i pump at the gas station from empty i can only pump up around 68L.

@dr.edsozfamilytravel 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks . I have a question. With Toyota TSC towing stability control would I still need a dexter stability control fitted on my caravan?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Answer -> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n8uPpt162tCviX0.html

@dr.edsozfamilytravel 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I guess it’s okay to have both then. That’s more protection. I thought it will interfere in its operations. Thanks so much for the education. Much appreciated mate. Take care and stay safe. Waiting for more of your educational videos.

@SixtyFo 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any information about being able to options things like E-KDSS and or the diff locks for trim levels other than the GR sport?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Not yet. At the full press launch I expect to. I do expect aftermarket lockers.

@PatrickRich 2 жыл бұрын

This is fantastic!. I do have a couple of corrections. The fan is coupled mechanically, but it's electronically controlled. Not electric. If the Transfer case is still using the same Torsen center diff as the 200 the nominal split isn't 50/50. It's 40/60 front/rear.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, possibly I misunderstood the engineers then...another clarification!

@charlesanim-mensah359 2 жыл бұрын

I really like the way u chipped in the correction and also love the how he appreciated your correction and must say i like what I've learnt today. Thanks to both

@modog6488 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing Rob, you come across as one that has experience in research and design. Your detailed assessment with all the facts to back is the most educated and balanced review I have ever watched. Some things that stood out: - Pitch of the 300 with the bullbar and seeing how unstable in comparison with the 200 without. How can data be affected by this, do they have front suspension to pair with the bar as a package to fix? - You put the high power small engine by just upping boost theory to bed by explaining how the engine gains more power. This is so complicated and left to the computers to do it’s job. Time will tell if a touring trip is ruined by 1 sensor out of how many? But the graph of the power and reliability shows that Toyota designs with that in mind. So time will tell. I watched another review that was with you and it was pathetic. I could’ve done better. Saying that because it was all info on a brochure and said yeah drives better. That’s it and they are a well known. Plenty of car journalists out there who just drive down a road but not many like you. Well done mate!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, much appreciated! Suspension design is a real science with a bit of art. I intend to do more on it. Basically a bar and winch is a fair bit of weight in a terrible, terrible place for vehicle dynamics; the only places worse are right at the back end (think dual wheel carrier) or on the roof. Anyway, it's not just the extra weight, it's the location of the weight - because it's ahead of the front axle there's more weight added to the front axle than mass. So say it's 50kg mass all up, there may be 60kg of weight added to the front axle, and 10kg off the rear. Then that weight is a long way from the centre of gravity, so there's what we call a moment (similar to a lever). Hence the pitch, and why ANY vehicle with a bar/winch needs a stiffer front end. Also part of the suspension travel is used up by the weight so you'll get to the bumpstops quicker, and that slightly changes the camber of IFS. I could go on but you get the idea. Anyway, it is entirely possible to plug the numbers into a computer which would tell you the new spring rate and damper settings for the front, and if you're being really good, then you change the rear too but not as much so it's balanced. Then you test to be sure. I forgot to edit in my bit about the hot V config which will also help the efficiency ie power per L of capacity. I've added a note to it on the support blog post. Yes I try and explain why so viewers can make up their own minds. The 300 does drive better, but it's not enough of a difference to really notice from a handling perspective compared to an LC200. But that doesn't mean the 300 isn't overall a better car.

@modog6488 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic, I understand very much about the weight balance. Toyota clearly puts alot of thought so much so to move the engine back 70mm for that very reason. When I ordered front suspension for my car I was asked about bar and winch and I was given one to suit. I will have at look at the link you put up on the hot V efficiency. Very interesting your info, and on a different note, I learnt about transmission windup today. I activate 4wd low when reversing my caravan up my steep driveway to save riding the clutch but I hear the tyres jerk, now I know why. Thanks again Rob

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure! If you can engage low range without locking your centre diff then do so, or if part time, unlock the hubs and engage 4wd low range.

@holgermuller2987 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert. Looking into it now.. no split rear door!! Just wonder who will jump on it to make it for aftermarket !!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I doubt anyone will. Possibly make a pull-out table instead so kind of best of both worlds.

@offroadingfoz 2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully it solves their dust seal issues of 200’s past.

@Agent.K. 2 жыл бұрын

25:30 What’s the best distribution? Front heavy or rear heavy? And did you mention why narrow tyres are better? I watched twice but missed the part if so.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

For a 4X4 that carries load in the back, front-heavy is best. If the vehicle carries no load, then 50/50. For mid-engine sports cars, a rear distribution is best eg 60/40. Narrow/thin but tall tyres are best offroad. Onroad, there are some benefits to wider. Low profiles are generally awful especially offroad. I will explain all this in future videos. My next one will deal with a Lotus Elise which touches on the subject for sports cars but there will be a proper explanation.

@Agent.K. 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC Thanks for answering. I highly appreciate your work and believe you’re one of the best and most knowledgable guys in automotive industry 🙏

@philt2485 2 жыл бұрын

At 10:55 you mention the AC220W/100W socket. Is this modified OR pure sine wave?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry don't know

@alexjumba 2 жыл бұрын

Great analysis. @ 40:39 the vehicle labels are reversed

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Oops so they are, good pickup!!!

@garyedwards5208 2 жыл бұрын

I got the impression that access to the spare wheel, was under the floor, via access with the rear tailgate up. Is that correct, do you have to unpack everything to get to the spare?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry I didn't check that. Will look at it plus lots of other things on a production car.

@bcatz454 2 жыл бұрын

Since BTC is disabled when OEM lockers are selected, this makes it such an easy decision to get one without the oem lockers. Will fit aftermarket lockers on, so I can still have brake traction control and individual locker

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully that won't be the case on production versions...but you could also go twin-locked. However, the cost of the GR Sport is a little crazy compared to the GX!

@Splits-man 2 жыл бұрын

Well who’s a lucky boy then eh Robert? 😉👍

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Me!!!

@tyronebarnett537 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think when the new prado comes out it will share the engine?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

If it will, detuned a bit

@JohnRolyAU 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a 200 Sahara in 2010, it now has 155K on it and it is heavily modified and highly maintained. I'm excited to move to a 300. Can't wait.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Why so?

@JohnRolyAU 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC I lot has changed in 11 years since I built the 200 with accessories. Starting with a clean sheet and rethinking how much I'd do differently this time. The 200 was retired from daily driver duties about 5 years ago and just sits in the garage.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

How would the build be different this time ?

@JohnRolyAU 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC The 200 was built over time. The 300 I would strip and build in 1 hit. Carefully planned electrics, LIthium only, Redarc or Enerdrive, Probably no winch (I've used my current one, once in 11 years). I would weigh every component added to the 300 and find the lightest option possible. (200 have GVM and GCM upgrade)

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds just like my next build! Keen to see your weight data

@bvward 2 жыл бұрын

Robert, sounds like the 10 speed gearbox is approaching CVT powerband .) Nice write up. Silly question - was the Cyrillic on the slides Russian or Ukrainian? Alas, we'll never see it in the 'States.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

It was Russian yes. A lot of the static footage was taken from Toyota's various channels around the world. It was interesting to see how each country developed their own take on the LC300. In the case of Russia they had a mobster and three henchmen discuss the vehicle's suitability suitability for gang warfare.

@bvward 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC Спасибо товарищ! (Thank you, comrade) ;)

@HardstylePete 2 жыл бұрын

IRS doesn't not increase dynamic clearances. Due to short control arms and the need for the control arms to move through their entire arc to provide suspension travel, ground clearance becomes dynamic based on load. Thus causing the suspension to lower well past the ground clearance of a solid axle.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the design. Generally, you do get better ground clerance, and yes it lowers, but not generally beyond the equivalent live axlen unless the front end is quite soft and you're heading downhill. I say this based on extensive real-world testing, plus having owned live, IFS, and IFS/IRS vehicles.

@HardstylePete 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC I sold my Ranger and purchased a GU Patrol and this was one of the factors. The ability to travel at speed in deep ruts without bottoming out is a significant advantage. The Ranger would frequently have the lower subframe contact the ground. It really depends on the terrain you are driving on.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I see your point 👍 and that would also be Toyota's point wrt the 80 Series haaving good rough-terrain ride. And also the live axles flexing downwards as one end is lifted up.

@HardstylePete 2 жыл бұрын

Keen to see the 300 series fully loaded up and doing the Canning Stock Route. Andrew SP White claimed his stock 200 series completed the entire track without a mechanical failure. I think that's a worthy test for any offroad vehicle.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Any vehicle could do the Canning if prepared properly and driven properly. The Mercedes failure was due to poor prep and too fast driving so not a good comparison. Got to have all the context.

@stevephillips6992 2 жыл бұрын

Andrew SP said stock, so to compare apples to apples, no prep, just fluids and diesel and food

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

It'd do it as would many other 4x4s. I took two Chinese 4x4s across the Simpson stock standard even tyres.

@HardstylePete 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC If it was in a convoy wouldn't they all be doing the same speed? You are correct apples to apples and I don't have all the details. Just hard to prove the durability of a new vehicle based on press notes and a few hours of driving in easy conditions.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I agree and I'm not making any such claim. The Mercedes convoy tried to do too much too quickly and that was the problem.

@jeffray8780 2 жыл бұрын

Great review Robert - as expected. Took one for a drive yesterday. A beast! quiet, comfortable. Great for towing large and heavy things no doubt, but the pricing? Ouch. The two holy grails of LANDCRUISER - fuel capacity and second battery under bonnet. No space for second battery any longer. That's a real shame. After, jumped into the latest Prado as well. ALC300 makes Prado a 'small' car by comparison but the updated 2020 engine gets around pretty well in city traffic. Like to see what they do with the next Prado but I can't wait that long.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, and yes it is pricey but it has the reputation and they are selling so you can't blame Toyota for pricing high!

@petermenzies1714 2 жыл бұрын

Great unbiased appraisal, typical progression which is what most buyers want if they use this vehicle for it’s designed purpose. There are already enough hair stylist cars out there! Hope Toyota stay true to their credentials & much lauded reliability??? Not sure this is maintainable in 10-15 years time though?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

At least as maintainable as any other car....

@drjenschn 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, great video, but none of your in-video "check this out" links work properly...

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks will look at that

@drjenschn 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC Cool. Honestly, best video I found while looking for someone who "takes the LC 300" apart rather than just walking around it with a camera and saying (oversimplifying here, but essentially:) oooh, look, shiny, shiny! Absolutely fantastic.

@rsKayiira 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing presentation. A bit disappointing that it doesn't have height adjustable suspension

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I guess Toyota didn't feel it would be robust enough.

@rsKayiira 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC Fair enough. Those systems have been very unreliable on Land Rovers. I've seen Lexus LX with a faulty one as well. I hope they eventually make it possible though in future updates for the LC 300. If its not too late

@Gemini_0815 2 жыл бұрын

You’re right. The Defenders boot is too small. But that’s due to the longer wheel base and more space for the 2nd row passengers. Overall the boot & interior space would be about equal to a LC300. In terms of pure capability, the Defender is far ahead the Toyota (both on and off-road). Land Rovers traction control is far superior. Plus they have air suspension. Reliability is obviously a pressing question. If your life depends on it, don’t get a new car. Time will tell if the new LC is still reliable. The Defender had some problems first, I’m not sure how it’s currently doing.

@sayembinalam3795 5 ай бұрын

Thank

@joshuafraser6027 2 жыл бұрын

The image of the petrol says twin turbo on the engine cover, hence the twin air intakes; it is a dire shame that we won't be getting the twin turbo v6. the same v6 from the toyota aurion.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed but there is just no demand for petrol 4x4s when there is a diesel alternative. That is why Toyota withdrew all their petrol 4x4s.

@eshakhan8799 2 жыл бұрын

Great

@thebeerhunter817 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the air filter will work this time. Was a bit of a sore point for a lot of people with dusted engines and Toyota wiping their hands of it.