Toyota's NEW Sports Car is a Hybrid WAGON with a MANUAL Transmission?!

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Kirk Kreifels

Kirk Kreifels

Күн бұрын

#TOYOTA #gazooracing #grcorolla #gr86 #gryaris #grsupra #supra #trueno
Is Toyota planning a #wagon #hybrid with a #savethemanuals transmission? This is hard to believe, but if true, this could change the performance sedan market big time!
Source:
bestcarweb.jp/backnumber/779964

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@mrgurulittle7000
@mrgurulittle7000 5 ай бұрын
I think Toyota just designed what nobody realized everyone needed. 🥳Wagons making a strong comeback by Toyota.
@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg
@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg 5 ай бұрын
Nah the us is stuck on the trend of having gas guzzling trucks and SUVs unfortunately
@jkosh2046
@jkosh2046 5 ай бұрын
Yassssss. Drifting pregnant wives yes.
@SayAhh
@SayAhh 5 ай бұрын
​@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg US needed to recategorized cannabis and wagons. It's nonsense that wagons are not subject to the same CAFE standards as trucks and SUVs; on the other hand, trucks and SUVs should be regulated harder, not looser.
@mrgurulittle7000
@mrgurulittle7000 5 ай бұрын
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimgSales should tell. Toyota does a good job at advertising products well.
@mrgurulittle7000
@mrgurulittle7000 5 ай бұрын
@@SayAhhYeah. First of all, ban that sickening drug that causes all this poverty. And legalize little Kei cars.👍
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 5 ай бұрын
Kirk, Where do I sign for my GR86 Wagon with a genuine Toyota engine and manual transmission? A year ago we would probably have said we would NEVER get the Crown Estate/Signia wagon either.🤩
@Hallowsaw
@Hallowsaw 5 ай бұрын
I want a true wagon though... give me a lexus es/ avalon full sized wagon
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 5 ай бұрын
@@Hallowsaw The Signia will cover that territory.
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 5 ай бұрын
@@Hallowsawthat’s what Crown Signia is for!
@lightshunshine3861
@lightshunshine3861 5 ай бұрын
@@faheemabbas3965 The Toyota wagon is more suitable for the Crown line up, because in the past the Crown line up had an estate or RWD station wagon, unfortunately currently the Signia is considered to replace the Crown wagon, even though the Signia is still a FWD SUV, not a wagon, so the RWD Crown line is just the Crown sedan (not a crossover) and it could be said that it is only sold in Japan and China (more precisely, the Asian market)
@isaachedstrom4832
@isaachedstrom4832 3 ай бұрын
u will get it bro
@littlestinker9716
@littlestinker9716 5 ай бұрын
Toyota needs to start building cool wagons yesterday.
@isaachedstrom4832
@isaachedstrom4832 3 ай бұрын
i second this littlestinker9716
@verglasviq
@verglasviq 5 ай бұрын
Wagons need a comeback fr
@derbigpr500
@derbigpr500 5 ай бұрын
Comeback from what? They never left, in Europe they're still the most sold type of car.
@mottom2657
@mottom2657 5 ай бұрын
@@derbigpr500 Wagons are a rarity in the States. That's what the comment meant.
@steveyork8069
@steveyork8069 5 ай бұрын
I loved my dodge magnum srt8.Then there was that fateful day that a storm dropped a tree on it”totaled”.😢
@ADMONIUS
@ADMONIUS 3 ай бұрын
@@derbigpr500Yeah, in the US they are mostly gone. Only the German brands and Volvo still sell wagons, but I’d rather have a Japanese wagon with a manual transmission IMO.
@cloudyview
@cloudyview 5 ай бұрын
A manual shooting brake? Take my money!
@LemironStarling
@LemironStarling 5 ай бұрын
Right!!!, I have been waiting for this from any automaker to offer this in the US.
@ameraboukoura6091
@ameraboukoura6091 5 ай бұрын
Future of Japanese cars looking so cool and giving me so much hope
@mrgurulittle7000
@mrgurulittle7000 5 ай бұрын
So true. I lose hope in the future looking at other concepts, but JDM concepts make me look forward to it.
@mrgurulittle7000
@mrgurulittle7000 5 ай бұрын
@@Brian_Eugene_Lee😆
@donkedic1
@donkedic1 5 ай бұрын
@@Brian_Eugene_LeeMitsubishi still makes cars?
@sigmamale4147
@sigmamale4147 5 ай бұрын
The cars themselves are not looking so cool unfortunately
@lightshunshine3861
@lightshunshine3861 5 ай бұрын
@@donkedic1 yes ofc but more focused for asian market
@angelo747
@angelo747 5 ай бұрын
That wagon is a guaranteed buy for me if it ever comes out.
@user-sn2rb8ee6b
@user-sn2rb8ee6b 5 ай бұрын
I would love an automatic hybrid Toyota wagon w/ awd and at least 250 hp in the US. It could handle like a boat and I’d still buy it.
@blackgold754
@blackgold754 5 ай бұрын
Me too! If I can’t have big fuel efficient cars hybrid wagon is great or Toyota crown sport
@jkosh2046
@jkosh2046 5 ай бұрын
Facts
@dustindautreuil5978
@dustindautreuil5978 5 ай бұрын
Shhh, there's a thousand million bagillion automatic only cars in the US. Let us dream.
@haasofdetroit9828
@haasofdetroit9828 5 ай бұрын
Manual or gtfo
@Queso305
@Queso305 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure if such a product comes out, it won't be released in the US. Station wagons just don't have an appeal to the general public anymore. It'd totally be my next car too
@yolo_burrito
@yolo_burrito 5 ай бұрын
If they call it a CUV it’ll sell.
@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg
@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg 5 ай бұрын
​@@yolo_burritothat's so true 😂😂😂
@Queso305
@Queso305 5 ай бұрын
@@yolo_burrito I can only hope lol, but look at the levorg for example
@kwillee93
@kwillee93 5 ай бұрын
I joke saying the rise in the SUV craze correlates to the obesity problem in the states. People need the extra spring rate
@damienlee1165
@damienlee1165 5 ай бұрын
They'll lift it and clad the wheel arches and bumpers with black plastic, slap a "cross-sport" badge or some shit like that and it'll sell.
@GT-hk8dy
@GT-hk8dy 5 ай бұрын
That wagon would be so damn cool
@greenesthue1545
@greenesthue1545 5 ай бұрын
Wagons are sooo cool. Yes please to the GR86 wagon.
@miketwotwenty
@miketwotwenty 5 ай бұрын
They should call it the matrix instead! They should revive the matrix nameplate!
@terryclair2914
@terryclair2914 5 ай бұрын
Love the look of the wagon!
@fuyouto
@fuyouto 5 ай бұрын
this have the potencial to be my ultimate daily driver for a lifetime, and im a wagon huge fan. man a manual wagon with 350hp , a deam come tru
@rohc69
@rohc69 5 ай бұрын
I been wanting a wagon would be amazing if they made a sports wagon
@markallen2984
@markallen2984 5 ай бұрын
The thumbnail kind of looks like old Accord Aerodeck from the 80s…… I still want one of those
@springertube
@springertube 5 ай бұрын
I was going to say...
@brianklamer3328
@brianklamer3328 5 ай бұрын
A shooting brake would be a great seller in Europe and for youngsters in North America.
@jimkelly1613
@jimkelly1613 5 ай бұрын
Not just the youngsters
@jacksongoerges9422
@jacksongoerges9422 5 ай бұрын
Toyota just needs to give the US a wagon version of the ES. The ES looks great already, and a ES wagon F Sport Wagon would be awesome
@bictorsuave2102
@bictorsuave2102 5 ай бұрын
That white wagon is so cool better than the red hoping toyota brings it to life in the US
@ChristianTaylor3
@ChristianTaylor3 5 ай бұрын
Ok that render on the top looks awesome as a wagon
@phosimmie
@phosimmie 5 ай бұрын
New Starlet?! Yes Please!
@mrgurulittle7000
@mrgurulittle7000 5 ай бұрын
Yes please!🙏
@minovskyparticles1834
@minovskyparticles1834 5 ай бұрын
that's just the suzuki baleno, rebadged
@esh2427
@esh2427 5 ай бұрын
@@minovskyparticles1834 fellow indian.. haha.. i think that would just be a toned down 4 door gr yaris
@illuminaughty2929
@illuminaughty2929 5 ай бұрын
I would buy the Shooting Brake version even if it’s a 5-door
@DoLus88
@DoLus88 5 ай бұрын
Corolla TS is awesome looking car here in Europe!
@yolo_burrito
@yolo_burrito 5 ай бұрын
A shooting brake by definition is a 3 door.
@DoLus88
@DoLus88 5 ай бұрын
@@yolo_burrito estate with 3 doors. Not a hatchback
@wasteofspace9184
@wasteofspace9184 5 ай бұрын
I’d kill for a Toyota wagon 😭 likely never gonna happen in the states tho
@lanceareadbhar
@lanceareadbhar 5 ай бұрын
It might if they call it a crossover.
@mrgurulittle7000
@mrgurulittle7000 5 ай бұрын
It might happen.
@wasteofspace9184
@wasteofspace9184 5 ай бұрын
@@lanceareadbharvery true sadly! I may be such an odd man out with being in my 20’s and wanting a wagon but hatchbacks in the US suck they are way too small. Wagons with a modern Toyota hybrid set up would be my perfect daily driver for gas mileage alone.
@blackgold754
@blackgold754 5 ай бұрын
Crown signia baby. Ik it’s expensive but just saying that signia will be a wagon
@wasteofspace9184
@wasteofspace9184 5 ай бұрын
@@blackgold754oh if I could that would be my first new car!
@rollingcan
@rollingcan 5 ай бұрын
I love this. A GR86 hatchback hybrid is what I have been waiting for. Now you have practicality and efficiency Wow.
@MarketAndChurch
@MarketAndChurch 5 ай бұрын
I hope not. In the 90's we had tons of small 2-dr rwd manual coupes that are affordable, and today, that is down to just three (the toyota/subaru twins and the Miata). We can't stand to lose one. A 4dr car is larger, adds weight, and increases costs. I hope this is not true. Maybe they can build this car seperate from the GR86. Also, no news on the future of the Supra?
@JerryBimbra
@JerryBimbra 5 ай бұрын
Love your podcast.
@BigAl22
@BigAl22 5 ай бұрын
Need a wagon from Toyota
@user-jm3mo6sb6v
@user-jm3mo6sb6v 5 ай бұрын
The wagon is basically a new generation Alteeza Gita.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 5 ай бұрын
Is sport cross 🙂
@markcoopers1930
@markcoopers1930 5 ай бұрын
Well the original AE86 came in both 2-door Coupe and 3-door liftback designs. But it was built on the Corolla platform back when that was RWD too. I'd love a sporty RWD sedan and the Stinger in its final revised form was an unappreciated gem. But turning the 86 to a shooting brake/wagon while the "practical" GRCorrolla is in the lineup seems much harder than justifying the current entry 4 seat 86, mid-grade 2 seat Supra, and higher grade 2 seat MR2 (or however they end up sorting them). Especially if theres any merit to grCamry rumors. Maybe 4 doors in the manner of RX-8 + liftback could fit that 86 body form a bit better?
@kenhoward3512
@kenhoward3512 5 ай бұрын
Offering the GR86 in a (still-sporty) 4-door/liftback would greatly increase the versatility - and sales potential - of this model. The GR Corolla, GR86, Supra, and upcoming MR2 will never be more than very low-volume cars for a company the size of Toyota. This, with the right powertrains, would make sense to supplant at least one or two of those. I'd be plenty happy with either design.
@bobbyjones2112
@bobbyjones2112 5 ай бұрын
You better keep us posted on this, you have a job to do and you better do it…lol 😜😜😜
@johnobrien8773
@johnobrien8773 5 ай бұрын
I'm so happy to see actual cars making a come back. I personally love wagons. The IS is on my list, and that 5 liter V8 is special. Another IS wagon but in IS500 trim is a pipe dream... or bring back the ISF one last time to remind us what toyota can do when they go bonkers. The RS6 GT needs a playmate... The safari-wagon on the old TV show 'Fantasy Island' is my recent obsession.
@islanddon865
@islanddon865 5 ай бұрын
Definitely a cool ride. Works for me.
@Blank00
@Blank00 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully it lacks the CUV cladding
@Stinger430
@Stinger430 5 ай бұрын
What does the magazine say about the Mazda 6 on their cover?
@randomrebuilds
@randomrebuilds 5 ай бұрын
Toyota is nailing it with their vehicles and its no wonder they are a global leader in car sales! RWD paired with a 6MT would be a dream!
@EnhancedTrashBin
@EnhancedTrashBin 5 ай бұрын
They definitely did something right with the GR corolla but they sure mess up having supra and 86 to be made by another manufacturer.
@mochabear88
@mochabear88 5 ай бұрын
wasnt ready for this news
@brianclauzel4973
@brianclauzel4973 Ай бұрын
I really hope this eventuates and comes to market
@James-cs2wi
@James-cs2wi 5 ай бұрын
Touring sports wagon looks lovely😊❤
@dannyphamous
@dannyphamous 5 ай бұрын
Manual hybrid wagon is instant buy! I got my miata because max fun, manual, good reliability, good 33+ combined mpg (38+hwy), and not a 4 door suv or sedan. If this is fun as a GR Corolla with more interior space, a hatchback, and 40+ mpg then I'd be happy. Current GRC and GR86 are ~22-24mpg combined.
@MrQuay03
@MrQuay03 5 ай бұрын
Outside of enthusiasts, 99% people don't care and won't buy if it's not affordable I like my old manual mazda 3, mr2 but they are rare and dead tech
@felixswart5986
@felixswart5986 5 ай бұрын
This is close to what I am looking for. I was hoping Mazda would update the 6 and make it available as a stationwagon. Is there so little demand for a shooting break/stationwagonish family car that: 1. Is a rear wheel drive, 2. Available as a plugin hybrid - range does not need to be more than 30 miles to cover my daily commute. 3. Has acceleration of 0 - 62 of sub 8 seconds 4. No piano gloss plastic 5. Physical controls for the infotainemant system.
@supercyan4869
@supercyan4869 5 ай бұрын
if i were to guess, we in North America would get the liftback/hatchback sorta design. no shooting brakes ever come over to us unfortunately even though they definitely should. i’d definitely take a look at the liftback gr86 though as i did like the stinger for its liftback and i feel more sedans should do it as you get more practicality without needing to step up to a cuv/suv
@why8410
@why8410 5 ай бұрын
I saw that mazda 6 on the cover. Please make a video on it.
@VILSONDUSEVIC
@VILSONDUSEVIC 5 ай бұрын
Kirk, any news on the new ES?
@Anamnesis
@Anamnesis 5 ай бұрын
if you're in North America and you actually believe a product like this would ever darken the doorstep of any Toyota dealer when all they want to sell are hybrids, crossovers, and hybrid crossovers, you really need to take a breath and understand reality 🤣
@Toyota4Life
@Toyota4Life 5 ай бұрын
Stop hating.
@Alex-lc1bv
@Alex-lc1bv 5 ай бұрын
He wasn't hating though...​@@Toyota4Life
@ccabz08
@ccabz08 5 ай бұрын
Intriguing; give us the shooting brake for sure.
@gizmic
@gizmic 5 ай бұрын
Corollas even on E80 always had 2 door hatch, 2 door coupe, 2 door lift back, sedan, 4 door hatch and 5 door lift back
@urs6onfuturas975
@urs6onfuturas975 5 ай бұрын
I'd even take the Corolla wagon we don't get in the states.
@zkiller195
@zkiller195 5 ай бұрын
Far and away the best body style for the Corolla too. But then again wagons usually are.
@colincharan-kumpula6424
@colincharan-kumpula6424 5 ай бұрын
Gr86 and Supra are not Toyota. The Caldinda GT-FOUR rebirth, long live the wagon.
@springertube
@springertube 5 ай бұрын
@@zkiller195 This ^^
@theday2learn
@theday2learn 5 ай бұрын
What is the link to your discord you mentioned at the beginning of your video?
@samuelwong6995
@samuelwong6995 5 ай бұрын
I recalled at some point. Toyota meant to share the FRS platform with Scion to create a 4-door RWD sedan and develop a premium version for Lexus. Eventually Scion went out of business, and it seems this project was ended. But it is interesting to remember that IS used to have a wagon version.
@JayJager
@JayJager 5 ай бұрын
Wagons are so underrated, better than an suv in every way except off-roading but what SUV driver goes off-roading seriously
@rudy_dstroys1821
@rudy_dstroys1821 5 ай бұрын
I dig the 4 door GR86. Takes me back to my 2006 Nissan Sentra SER Spec V days. 4 doors is still needed lol
@DavidDLee
@DavidDLee 5 ай бұрын
In the wagon config, it looks like a dream car. They never get us this in the US though. All the buying public wants is an elevated seating position. Luckily, I snatched a Stinger hatchback to enjoy, while we wait.
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 5 ай бұрын
Kirk, why the high beltlines are every new car? Ugh... high beltlines make the cabin claustrophobic, like you're trapped in a tin can. Please, automotive designers, lower the beltline. Create open and airy cabins. Not every car has glass sunroofs. Also, for the shooting brake, make the design even sleeker by hiding the rear door handles up high like the Prius so it looks like a coupe. What Toyota did with the Prius's doors is a stroke of genius.
@speedyninetyone
@speedyninetyone 5 ай бұрын
Side impact requirements raise the belt lines. So you have some metal between you and the front bumper of the F-250 that t-bones you as it runs a red light while texting.
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 5 ай бұрын
@@speedyninetyone Don't believe this. The protection in doors does not run the full height of the doors. This is a stylistic preference which I hate but has become the defacto style.
@cloudyview
@cloudyview 5 ай бұрын
​@@davidhunternyc1you don't need to believe it, but that's the cause. It's all safety related.
@xXVibrantSnowXx
@xXVibrantSnowXx 5 ай бұрын
It's done like that for Safety reasons, even if some don't want to believe it's true @@davidhunternyc1
@sun2012
@sun2012 5 ай бұрын
Really want a manual hybrid wagon, awd like the one in the gr corolla would be the best to switch between rwd and awd
@ellomirza
@ellomirza 5 ай бұрын
I’m so happy about this assuming it’s true. There’s a new 100000000 horsepower carbon fiber wedge coming out every week and the same people buy them just to put them away in a garage. What do we the people get? If I had a billion dollars to spend on a car I’d still just want a small fun manageable affordable hybrid. I don’t want something that difficult to enter and exit and loud inside, harsh over bumps, feels like I’m doing 25 when I’m doing 125mph, draws a crowd everywhere, I’m afraid to leave parked in public etc etc.
@kangzau1006
@kangzau1006 5 ай бұрын
Shooting brake would be great, but i don't want to be disappointed when they scartch it. Impressive display of scale model cars in your arsenal
@artimus0112
@artimus0112 5 ай бұрын
Hey! I'm not sure but you said that LF-ZC will be the new flagship for the Lexus lineup but since that LF-ZC is now claiming to be HZ so what about the flagship Lexus?or more specifically the LS.
@serenitynow8265
@serenitynow8265 5 ай бұрын
Yaaay!! Bring on the sporty wagons already!! Long overdue.
@davids5313
@davids5313 5 ай бұрын
There rear is beautiful, old school meets modern
@Illankid
@Illankid 5 ай бұрын
I like the idea. But isnt the g70 being discontinued
@user-iz3gv5vo6b
@user-iz3gv5vo6b 5 ай бұрын
It would be great if they made it a 3 door liftback/shooting brake/wagon like the TE72 Liftbacks. They were great once you swapped in some parts straight off the AE86 parts bin and after-market. But of course that would never happen, so this 5-door "Hybrid Manual Wagon" would be the next best thing!
@illdeletethismusic
@illdeletethismusic 5 ай бұрын
3 door is dying out even in tiny city cars, wagon is the best option that can actually sell
@Talasas
@Talasas 5 ай бұрын
Missing an opportunity for a GR Corolla Touring. They have everything they need to make it on the shelf.
@edanirz
@edanirz 5 ай бұрын
Yes,.please make that wagon!!
@nissanzenkiboy
@nissanzenkiboy 5 ай бұрын
I actually seen this before somewhere floating around. But after having two 86s they were not that reliable really fun but it killed my pockets . But I do like the wagon
@eklektikTechno
@eklektikTechno 5 ай бұрын
But will it come to the US? We Don’t have the Golf R Estate unfortunately
@niallk9336
@niallk9336 5 ай бұрын
That spec sheet says 3000 lbs. That's light asf for a hybrid. Even the teeny tiny 1.2kWh battery in the Q50h brings her up to 4000 lbs. It's not just battery weight -- bms, controller, thick gauge wiring, motor itself (made of magnets), mounts w/shock absorbers ... it's all heavy. And on a heavier frame wagon... AWD is definitely out at that weight. I wonder if there's any weight savings by mounting a hybrid motor directly on the rear axle... but I imagine that savings is lost in the exchange for the size of motor needed to be on the axle w/o getting wrecked by it.
@dec2397
@dec2397 5 ай бұрын
I’m only like half way through the video but all of this talk about the impinge 3 got me thinking… What if Toyota essentially stuck two G16 engines together to create a crazy twin turbo inline 6? 2jz successor??? 👀 Yes I know this probably has nothing to do with the video but imagine…
@godzilla8568
@godzilla8568 5 ай бұрын
Right!? Look at what Aston Martin and Cosworth did with a inline 3 (the V12 in the Valkyrie). I can only dream to see Toyota do something similar.
@ssanc6
@ssanc6 5 ай бұрын
I would like one, but I don't think there enough us in the US
@heyyitsandy
@heyyitsandy 4 ай бұрын
a manual shooting brake hybrid would be so good…. I’m with you, cautiously hopeful - it would be the perfect daily and almost TOO good to be true!
@KnoXar
@KnoXar 5 ай бұрын
if they do this one, i will deffo buy it if it comes out on the EU market. I'm really sad about stinger being discontinued.
@elfishcoder7287
@elfishcoder7287 5 ай бұрын
Sedan or wagon with a manual would be so cool. The 3rd gen of this car is going to be cool regardless of which form it'll be released.
@Count_Smackula
@Count_Smackula 5 ай бұрын
That rear 3/4 view looks like it took inspiration from the Lexus CT200h. IJS
@Linknelson
@Linknelson 5 ай бұрын
I’m all down, as long as those head lights are different, they should go for a retro square look some how
@teressastevenson3844
@teressastevenson3844 5 ай бұрын
Cool vehicles
@RetroMotiveAdventures
@RetroMotiveAdventures 5 ай бұрын
You also forgot about the acura TLX for "fast" big coupes. Kinda same class as the stinger was.
@illdeletethismusic
@illdeletethismusic 5 ай бұрын
i thought i was lucky to still get my Passat with a manual, but a GR wagon could be so much cooler! They got the GR Corolla so right, manual, physical handbrake, physical switches for the important features,.... Would have ordered one had they been available in europe.
@avan5902
@avan5902 5 ай бұрын
Hot Wagon with a 6spd would be dope
@ML-gb7cn
@ML-gb7cn Ай бұрын
Im in.. loved my mazda 6 wagon
@jamesmustin7289
@jamesmustin7289 5 ай бұрын
The drawing is rework of the Volvo mini station wagon or shooting brake . That Volvo was a classic
@cra_55
@cra_55 5 ай бұрын
Sporty medium-sized RWD sedan from Toyota? Is the Mark X coming back?
@Thinginator
@Thinginator 5 ай бұрын
Not loving that front styling, but loving the concept. With around 350 hp and over 400 lb ft of torque, that’s getting the same performance as a classic V8 muscle car out of a 3-cylinder hybrid drivetrain. Wild how far technology has come. I really hope they don’t chicken out and deny the American market that sweet wagon, it’d make an awesome daily/fun family car.
@Nordestada
@Nordestada 5 ай бұрын
Trueno is Spanish for Thunder. True ea (as in egg) no. That wagon looks awesome to me that likes wagons. Thanks for sharing!
@peethasaccent
@peethasaccent 5 ай бұрын
Would love the wagon! remind me a bit of Lexus CT.
@JamieMakin
@JamieMakin 5 ай бұрын
This car would be the answer to my prayers!!
@TheEToE
@TheEToE 5 ай бұрын
Too cool even if I does come out it’s too cool to come to the usa
@scotter
@scotter 5 ай бұрын
What does "shooting break" mean?
@wescoleman6390
@wescoleman6390 5 ай бұрын
Shooting brakes are to coupes as station wagons are to sedans.
@NeoGee
@NeoGee 5 ай бұрын
Call me boring, but make that 5 door hatchback/shooting brake with an awd hybrid set with around 200-220hp and I'm happy! Make it the entry trim level powertrain with more powerful powertrains above for those that want more performance.
@1DonFF
@1DonFF 5 ай бұрын
This is most likely the re introduction of the discontinued mark x model but under the gr 86 name.
@akandoldbcornothing1007
@akandoldbcornothing1007 5 ай бұрын
I agree, I dont think it will be a shooting brake. Most likely to be a sedan if this is legit. I would hope they put this in the new IS, then I’ll trade in my current IS350 for it or get the 500
@fuji598
@fuji598 5 ай бұрын
I'd be very sad if we end up losing one of the best entry level lightweight FR coupe offerings just to make way for another $50-60k car. The new MR2 sounds cool but I just can't get that excited about something that expensive. I was hoping for an affordable, lightweight AW11 successor that might slot in around the miata, but they ended up going the SW20 turbo route (more power, more weight, more cost), if the leaks are any indication. Props if they're able to keep weight(and cost) relatively similar, but with a turbo and a larger body, realistically it'll end up being heavier, and costing more.
@MonkeyPower55
@MonkeyPower55 5 ай бұрын
I’m surprised nobody else is saying this. This will mean a bigger heavier more powerful more expensive car a lot of us won’t be able to afford. The extra weight and longer wheel base will make it less agile and fun to drive. Make this a new model and give us a proper 86 please.
@fuji598
@fuji598 5 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyPower55 Agreed. Why would you make the sucessor to a lightweight, reasonable power, affordable 2 door car not that? I'd be open to a redesign with a proper hatch, but otherwise it'd be a grand departure from what the car is supposed to be. We already have plenty of expensive, high power cars. Let us have cheap ones.
@ThePilotGear
@ThePilotGear 5 ай бұрын
well sh*t. now I want one.
@lecoureurdesbois86
@lecoureurdesbois86 5 ай бұрын
I could see the second design (red) being called "Celica" I would like a fun hybrid for a daily driver. Kinda like a CRZ. Or this...
@Gpat80
@Gpat80 5 ай бұрын
I think the IS should get a turbo or twin-turbo v6 to compete with the m340i, type-s tlx, audi s4, and g70 3.3T. It would also give you a reason to step up to the IS from this toyota sedan. Also maybe a new isf with a turbo v8?
@ItalianMetalHED
@ItalianMetalHED 5 ай бұрын
The elongated look hot hatch mazda already does with the 3's.
@NGl-wv1qn
@NGl-wv1qn 5 ай бұрын
Shooting brake with “flip up” headlights, I’m in. That can be the Nuevo Trueno.
@Scisca1a2a
@Scisca1a2a 5 ай бұрын
It reminds me of the perfect daily - the Euro version of gen 9 Civic Type R. Awesome car
@justincredible1990
@justincredible1990 5 ай бұрын
Would Subaru be joining in on this platform too with the BRZ?
@Revenant7n
@Revenant7n 5 ай бұрын
As a current Stinger GT2 owner, yes please!
@hk20000
@hk20000 5 ай бұрын
They did exactly the same thing 20 years ago. Re: Altezza. And that didn't work out anywhere outside of Japan
@Ian-yt
@Ian-yt 5 ай бұрын
i JUST bought a gr corolla, now I gotta get this too?!?!
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