That’s a LITERAL federal crime‼️‼️

honestly, i truly don’t believe anything this old lady says! if she had been an integral part of her boy’s life she would been there. This young woman and wife of the deceased husband, father and son probably isn’t the easiest person to like and deal with but spreading idiotic lies and gossip especially at this time is absolutely No way for the older woman to behave

Correct

She sure did! Don’t mess with someone’s mail, the feds tend to take that pretty seriously.

I guarantee that mom is a narcissist who thinks her way is the only way!

And I believe she has her tv on

We definitely need bonnet reform. ⚖️

Maybe because it's Zoom Court, not in person. But she might be ghetto enough to wear pajama pants and slippers and a shower cap to in person Court

ANYWHERE in public 🤦🏽‍♀️ 😡

They were not legally! You may have missed it when the woman openly admitted in front of the judge that she lied and told the coroner that they were married but they were not. Those words came out of her mouth. As a former hospital administrator, myself, of many years that also tells me she lied to the hospital staff and told them that she was wife. If they had no just cause to believe her. If they had no just cause to believe her, then they would not have been alerted to make her prove that she was his wife. That is their responsibility if it was ever brought to their attention because the hospital could be sued. Just an fyi respectfully.

@@angelicrealtor they were married for two months so when she told the coroner they were married they were married. Even the mother said they got married two months before he died

This was out of spite.

She's old south and trust when I say they have a entire different way of thinking and believing things idk what it is someone could hit them in the face with an entire book of truth and as long as it doesn't go with what they believe to have happened it's not the truth.but I do feel for her tho bc she never got to say that last goodbye

That's the majority of women

@@jabarimutabaruka365 its not "women" its a type of person. My husband is that way. If its was he thinks...that is it. doesnt matter what some facts may say. He often will start sentences with "I dont see why..." when discussing an issue where he believes something that research and facts disagrees with. He sees it his way and that is it. He is emotional about it because its how he feels so he thinks it must be right. I on the other hand put myself in other peoples shoes TO much and i constantly do research/learn/look at the facts about a situation and consistently change my mind on different issues depending on what the facts I have looked into has shown me. Its a personality type. Your generalization leads me to believe you may be coming to conclusions based on your emotions and not the facts since your response is in no way based on any known research on the matter.

I agree 100%

Lala is a size 6 for the record.

Yes sometimes that’s the case. But other times they will restart blood thinners if there is a risk of clots. So we can’t know since we weren’t there.

@@fp1912 - Yeah, there are cases where they go back and forth. Blood thinners increases bleeding and risks death. No blood thinners and they have blood clots that also risks death. Dangerous situation. But the bottom line here the old woman has no evidence that the younger woman did anything wrong.

It is confusing that he died of a blood clot and they had just taken him off of blood thinners so I could see why dum-dum could find a reason to think that this woman killed her son on purpose but it sounds to me like someone should be inquiring why he was taking off blood thinners and then died of a blood clot shortly thereafter it's all really sad especially for the kids

You are correct my husband goes back and forth

Judge is so nice.

Momma got on bonnet. I don't believe anything she says

​@@nothinspecial893right and chillin on the couch like she was just eating her snacks and watching her stories 😂

From what I can hear, she’s watching tv

When my mom was dying at my house, palliative care, I called my sister who,abused me, stole from me, was an alcoholic etc…, because it was the right thing to do, so she could say goodbye to her and my mother.

Yes! Manning's suggestions are worth following... they should move on and live for the child / children he left behind. Besides, none of this craziness will bring her partner back to life.

Exactly

For sure. The mom used phrasing like “she moved him to California. “Implying that the man did not have any choice in the matter, and he was like a child. He can make his own choices, and if he wanted to go to California, he was going to California.

YES! 100% if he wanted mom to know he was okay he would’ve called her the moment he was well….and he didn’t. Speaks volumes

Yup. I heard that too. She lied to the hospital and told them they weren’t married when they were. It doesn’t matter if it was only 2 months.

Didnt she say her son had a son by his girl.

She already knows everything!

Maybe her shower cap is too tight.

@@romerjusu3804 it’s a bonnet you slav fuck

​@@romerjusu3804 why do these older women not dress appropriately for court! I am aware of the issues of their hair, but in the live, court she would dress appropriately and do her hair. Stop it ladies! 33:36

I love this judge when she tells them about real life❤

I caught that. Lol. Her son wasn't talking to her.

@Tonya then she lied straight to the judge swearing she never checking her mail even though the daughter in law gave the judge a video of her doing it. The son most likely had enough of his mom's bs and he went low/no contact. I feel bad for the daughter in law and her kids.

She said her son's dad's family were at the memorial service. I pray that the grandson will be okay.

Omg u caught that lol

​@unchained_wings mom is a menace to society

That part!!! 🙌🏽

After I got past the initial shock, I had a good laugh. Thanks for sharing.😉

My Nan's ashes were spread at a local beach she loved to visit. Just as the they were being spread a big wave suddenly came in and some people got wet feet. We too think she would be laughing her head off 🙂

What a beautiful story, thank you for sharing!

😢😂😊 ❤ That was beautiful. Thanks for sharing 💭🔥💯👑

Same happened to me when I put my grandpas ashes in a lake he loved to fish in. A little breeze out of no where comes and the ashes were in my face I inhaled them lmao then later on felt grit in my teeth (no biggie..just my grandpa)😂 when it happened no one saw everyone was sad and crying so I played it off 😅

I agree with everything you just said. I too will NOT allow my mother to make any decisions regarding my health or anything in my life. I too have a DPA (direct power of attorney) and my mother is no where on there. I'm sorry you've been dealing with an illness for so long. I am glad you have great support. Please stay safe and strong. ❤

@@miss_vigal I'm really sorry that we have kinship in this regard. It is a very hard struggle to co.e to terms with knowing your own mother isn't worthy of being in your life. I hope that you are doing well and are happy. Sending you all my love and support!

@@MeruAyano Thank you so much for your kind, considerate words🙂

I *really* looked, but didn’t see a single tear.

Some women are a Uterus that delivered a child

You'll get no name calling from me. You're 100% correct.

Good on you! Somebody needed to say it.

I am black and I approve this message.

Thank you for saying this!!

Why would anyone want to name call you on your 100% correct message? Some of my grandkids are black and I know what the bonnets are. You are right, it is pure laziness. I'm surprised the judge didn't say anything to her, but she may have thought it was a headwrap.

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Why do you feel that you can project your feelings & experiences on this case? I’m asking because I have an extremely toxic MIL. Yet, I choose not to project my experiences with her onto other people out of common sense.

@@indirastone7382 It’s not projection. It’s experience there’s a difference and it clearly shows in their comment.

@@indirastone7382 because I am a mother, grandmother, retired Marine, retired CJ Professor, teen mom, DV Survivor, suffered physical and mental abuse by a narcissistic mother, (recognizes a Narc, if I was blindfolded), have a strong sense of discernment, over 60, loving, articulate and intelligent, to name a few, but more than anything, that’s what Content Creators such as myself have a COMMENT Section for🤷🏽‍♀️I hope I answered your question, besides, that’s why generational curses keep growing no oneTELLS, to stop it. And there are millions of men and women who may have experienced the same thing in life, I believe it’s important to let others know they are not alone. Stay Blessed Sistah, and ask yourself, why did MY response trouble you so much?🤷🏽‍♀️❤️

Then sh3 said about the power then claims that its the 1st time she heard of that. She literally said it!!!

Who would want to turn off lights with kids there. Especially her grandchild 😢

@@shareewilliams7007 Worse, she is trying to insist a judge ordered the power turned off with the kids still living there. Absolute bull.

@@nctpti2073 totally agreee!! That's s sad

I have a real question. Is selling tickets to a funeral and selling off the ashes of a dead person an actual thing people do? I find this really disturbing.

I think what she was saying about paying for ashes is that they got ashes put into a necklace.

@user-il9lq7jl9c okay that makes a little more sense but what about selling tickets to the funeral? Is that to help cover the cost?

Absolutely. Not only the hate but the greed.

​@@patriot8938 Especially the GREED

Greed. My stepmonster has been evil since my father died. She threw away sixty-five years of a collection of his tools, projects, garden equipment, clothes, pictures, etc., in a landfill instead of giving it to my me and my brothers. She has helped HER daughters buy millions of dollars of property to rent out as AirBnBs, but doesn’t speak to her stepchildren. She is evil personified, I hope karma shows her what a bitch she can be.

Fat eyes??? 😂😂😂😂

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Ms. Turner is lucky that Ms. Starks didn't call the Postal Inspector. Looking in her mailbox is Federal crime.

YES IT IS

The mother in law admitted they were married three months prior to her son's death. The mother in law had no legal rights or business forwarding a married couples mail ain't no judge no where advised her to do know b.s like that.That woman had only been in her son life six years.No female can come between a son and his mother unless the son allows it.If the son was calling his own mother telling her when he was in and out the hospital again she can't blame her daughter in law.Both women just don't like each other period. I wouldn't have my children around nobody that was going around saying I stop my husband blood thinner took him outside and he died.That's being accused of neglect and just letting somebody die.😢

I would have referred Turner to Feds and had her jailed for mail tampering and fraud.

How could she be if she wasn't even allowed to see him in the hospital. That mom wasn't on anything. The wife was.Shr is a ghetto lying mess. Sounds like the son didn't want to deal with her .

Only difference between a POS ex-wife and a POS mother-in-law is a few years. 🤷‍♂️

Right? I'm quite surprised that some commenters are taking Ms Turner's side and saying that Mrs Starks needs to be nice to her simply because that's his mom. There are, however, unfortunately lots of parents that don't deserve their children and who are so toxic that they have to eventually be cut off for their children's own wellbeing. This is clearly one of those cases and there must be some wild history here, especially considering that the dad isnt even willing to give Mrs Turner some of their sons ashes. Although there is likely lots of bitterness and resentment at play here, it at least appears that Mrs Stark was simply supporting her husbands wishes and is now looking out for her own child's best interest

I feel like we watched the same video, as opposed to a number of other commentators who seem to think the GF is the problem in this scenario. Seems like granny is the one with longtime boundary issues that her son and ex were very well versed in

Some people have no understanding of real life & live in a bubble where everyone is nice & good. Problem is they assume thats reality & cannot empathise. The same type of person who insists other people forgive whoever has wronged them when its of no consequence to them. They probably also assume all older people are sunshine & rainbows. 🙄

What she did was evil Asf to keep the body like that

Sad thing is, I think the judge cares more about trying to bring peace to the relationship than the parties involved do.

@@danajohnson4757 - It's just a damn shame that families can't lay aside their differences at a time such as this. That woman has lost her son, and any of us who are mothers knows what kind of state she would be in at that time. I would go out of my mind if I lost one of my kids and their partner took over and shut me out of any plans or refused to update me on what was happening. This is not the time to be carrying on their petty little cat fights. Have some respect for the man who died and let everyone who loved him come and see him at the funeral home, or write a letter to put in his casket, or whatever they feel they need to do to get some relief from his death.

Makes me think the judge is to busy to be bothered to have proof made official.

​@@TuckyBlue_1👏👏👏. Exactly. Judge made a decision before she entered the court to hear the litigants

She does but it was misplaced here. She gave barely any concern to the wife who is the victim of the mothers stalking and abuse. It's disgusting.

Time? With a PSYCHO????

It's easier to be angry then mourn the loss. I went thru this with my MIL but at a much less extreme level.

​@@dalpz205it's really sad when loss brings out the worst in people at a time when they need each other. I've watched it in my own family a few times. It's heartbreaking. I'm sorry this happened to you. ❤️‍🩹

Well said. My MIL was a covert narcissist and it's taken me 10 years after her death to forgive her. There never could have been peace between us because she couldn't stop punishing me for marrying him.

10 minutes

@@chasep1310 2 days 7 hours 16 minutes

An hour

5 minutes

Once she clears the Courthouse steps

Exactly. "He wasn't married, but they were married for 2 months." then he was married! Whether it was a 20 year relationship or they met on the side of the road and married in Vegas. Every marriage is still a paper by law.

💯. Grandma is the problem - her own adult son wanted nothing to do with her. Can we not skip over that part in the comments? Lol

That is a damn lie! Spouses have no legal presentation OVER anyone! THE SPOUSE OVER STEPPED HER BOUNDARIES!

Ms. Starks said her husband was not raised by his mother. Mother said she has a bad reputation/record. Father didn't inform mothers side of the family that he has his son's ashes. Sounds to me like he was raised by his Father and there is no issue between Daughter-in-law and Father-in-law. At least the little one has a relationship with his Grandpa from his fathers side. Blessings aren't always obvious.

That's what I did, lol.

Trust me, she's not. Way to many people talk and talk and talk and never listen.

@Old Woman From The Mountains why am I laughing? I am not being kind but you are correct 🤣. Ms.K.Turner is a prime example of being a bad mum when she was younger now that she is in her golden years she is attempting to present herself as the loving mum and the former girlfriend now wife Starks maybe very similar to his mum.

OMG I thought it was just me 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

Mrz Fieldz is a sensitive and thoughtful person who has seen some things.

@@simbamom452 I just mean that there are people out there who will ruin a good thing for no reason. Just enjoy watching the cases, no need to contact litigants. But i just hope my appreciation for all of the hard work that goes into these videos doesn't go unnoticed.

The fact that people burn themselves with coffee clearly marked “caution hot” on the cup just shows how morally and mentally bankrupt we are.

​@@rf4341Hope you're not referring to the Liebeck v McDonald's case

Good Morning love! Hope your day is going well! ❤️

far better than most therapists!

💯👌🏿🙏🏿

Thank you 😊

I love this judge. She is being so real and gives so much good advice. She handled the case very well.

Correct! A funeral home will let people buy small urns or jewelry! Typically it’s arranged through the funeral home and paid for individually. There is a short window of time to purchase this directly after the death. The remainder of the ashes are typically given to the next of kin or if something is in arranged in advance might be given to another family member.

I think they probably shared the cost of the cremation. That’s just my guess. They may have all purchased smaller urns for their portion.

Wearing a bonnet no less.

I don't care where they sit, as long as they are centered, there is no disturbing noises around them, the internet works and the camera is steadily placed.

Dr. Google has had me dead buried everytime I go to the internet for advice. Needless to say, I'm still here above ground with no chronic, fatal, long-term or short-term illnesses or injuries (actually, I have rather unremarkable health profile). But still, according to the good (or not so good) online doc, I should be dead 😉 Lol.

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😂😂😂😂😂I hollered!

Exactly, this is just too much drama. I'm worn out just listening.

Sounds like you just need to take them less seriously 😂

Hell- this is my bedtime viewing

I couldn't agree more, my respect for Judge Manning grows and grows, her career as a LEO gives her a unique perspective.

Vote for people who support police reform. Far too many people ignore non presidential voting periods. Look at what happened with Roe versus Wade.

It’s a federal crime

VERY! It is a federal crime with serious punishments. You can't even open someone's mail in your own house

Because she wasn't going to have anyone tell her what to do.

That was her son. What parent wouldn't go

@@peggylawson1364 I swear I’m not understanding why so many ppl in these comments are acting like she shouldn’t be there? Even if their relationship wasn’t the best he was clearly in her life. My mama has passed but up until her last day id like to see anybody tell her she couldn’t see her sick child. She woulda been in jail lol 😂

I would go check on my child no matter who told me not to go!! And the wife is petty.

@@peggylawson1364 Speaking as a MIL, I have worked hard to develop a good and loving relationship with my DIL. I focus on the good and keep my heart open to her 24 - 7 and keeping my nose out of their business. She calls me Mom, and I never asked her to, we are friends. By doing this, I have my relationship with my son AND the grandchildren intact and strong. I don’t understand these “mothers “ who refuse to stay out of their GROWNUP (supposedly) child’s (usually a son) business. They refuse to cut the cord. This only ends up badly. She’s a meddler period.

You didn't pay a bit of attention to the advice that judge manning gave them did you?

That's right..

I think the judge was just using it as a litmus of whether or not, she could listen to facts. She clearly did not take that into account when she rendered her decision.

Exactly, she was also not letting anyone talk but Mrs Turner 😢!

Give them enough rooe

I have the same question. I believe the mother

Exactly

I don’t know that the mother just didn’t phrase it that way. He was still a grown man who could make decisions. He wasn’t a vegetable.

He was grown man..

If you have never delt with an ill family member they can definitely be grown and not able to make the best decisions. I am sure his physician did recommend him to move that far...

Zoom! Totally lame…

My Pleasure! ❤️

How do you acquire these?

@@jalazzyy judge manning livestreams her court, just search for Judge Alex Manning. She’s not the only one either, Judge Simpson and a bunch of others do to. Judge Bryant is another good one.

Thank you sister for being considerate 👏🏿

Exactly. The mom kept saying “I have nothing against Mrs. Starks, but I would always tell my son to get out of the relationship because she’s toxic.” Sounds like he wanted the relationship and didn’t want to hear his mother bashing his lady over and over.

Exactly

NO, you shouldn't if the MIL is an AZZ and her child wanted nothing to do with her.🤨

I think they said she was sent an invitation but didn't come. But it also depends on the situation. In this case it sounded like the son wanted nothing to do with his mom. And if the relationship is sooooo toxic that having her there would make every si gle person uncomfortable and prevent all other family members from being able to grieve in peace and safety then there are times people - even the mom - shouldn't be invited. Nonetheless, I think I remember hearing she was invited but chose not to come, and subsequently acting like a victim