He warped his discs. Pad and fluids wont make a difference to that. The more metal you drill/flute out, then less likely they are to stay intact. Making them hot and then driving through a puddle [quenching bath] is not going to result in a great outcome. Any component that is optimised for the track is, by definition, not optimised for longevity.

Okay, but 5.1 is not going to prevent brake fade. Indeed 5x fluids are slightly more prone to it than 4x fluids.

I track my Z4 and the two most important things to get done immediately (preferably before taking to the track) are brakes and alignment. Brake pads need upgrading to a more track oriented compound (nothing excessive) and fluid needs to be a decent high temp DOT4 or DOT5.1. In terms of alignment, almost all stock BMW alignments are annoyingly understeer biased for safety reasons on the road. With zero toe front and rear and more front camber (a lot more) the car is far more neutral/slightly oversteer biased. Once these two have been done its an absolute pleasure on the track and the 3.0 that I have is usually around mid pace relative to other cars on all the track days I have been on. So definitely no slouch!

@@DanSallis Thanks for the advice, will definitely look into that.

☝🏻

Thanks for the advice dude! I guess street pads and discs are just not up to the job

@@itsjoel keep the discs just pads and maybe braided brake lines and .4 race brake fluid Will make the car 100% better Standard rear pads should be fine

Fluid and pads are irrelevant to whether you cook your discs.

Looks like the Pepsi model, very nice.

I believe that is an Invicta lol

Always; creates hot spots and guaranteed to warp the then Discs. Anybody mentioned braided pipes.

Im in

???? I mean, sure replace the pads. But how is fluid change going to address juddering. C'mon. Don't be a div.

You would think so. It's the same engine as in the 911 Carrera 2.

It does, but from what I understand it's not as bad on 986s

Looks like a sub mariner.

Could be Tudor Black bay as wel.

Or a Rolex GMT Master II 5303.

Yeah there is. Fun.

Who the hell needs a reason? Lmao

I have every confidence in the engine!

Why is it russian roulette if I may ask?

@@GoldenCroc Because of how many similar cars engines have blown up when their owners have decided to track them! This is an old car with a high-mileage engine, even if the engine may be in remarkable condition for its age and mileage. Under normal-use road stresses, I don't think it's reasonable to have "every" confidence, let alone under track conditions. Of course, Joel's and your confidence may vary from mine, as confidence is largely subjective. Track day stresses are considered exteme conditions and also significantly reduce the longetvity of service items. Most road cars are not built to track. Proper track specials typically have uprated engine and other components, which should inform us of something noteworthy. Ever wonder why the warranty for most cars is voided if it's found the car has ever been on track? There's good reason for it. And that's when they're new. Confidence is a good feeling. Ideally, it should be well-founded. When someone says they have "every confidence", it suggests the absence of risk. No risk assessment for tracking this car would suggest no risk of any mechanical component failure, including the engine. My comment regarding the engine was intended as a friendly caution, based on knowlege of a significant number of engine failures in similar cars on track. My comment was further given in the context of Joel very recently giving the impression of a currrent lack of funds. Cars very much like this one have become a popular purchase with track days on a budget in mind. Problem is that the concept of track days on a budget is esssentially paradoxical. Moreover, I also doubt the recent inspection considered track use when the mechanic said the suspension work wasn't urgent. Tracking a car with suspension components known to be at the very end of their life isn't a good idea. There are potentially far greater consequences to tracking such a car than a blown engine, and which good brakes wouldn't prevent! I hope Joel reconsiders his "every confidence" and will enjoy the car nonetheless.

@@nigel.w Yeah, but engine wise I dont consider 130k to be that much, if they have been maintained well. Surprised to see them expire so often as you say, but maybe they havent been maintained well? That is considering modern engines if they dont have a design flaw dont really "wear out" all that much in most cases. But maybe the Boxster engine does have some flaws, I dont know. Cheers.

@@nigel.w You sound fun.