Video actually starts at 1:28 (and is very much worth watching!)

Using sand to explain/show TC in action. What a simple idea. Thank you.

Aside from the waste-my-damned-time intro, the video was pretty good.

I nearly bailed on the annoying blooper intro, but just made it to the actual content, which was great.

You guys aren't wearing golf hats...I forgot I was watching MOTOTREK!

This channel is criminally underrated.

Before buying a bike with traction control, I believe that everyone shall hone their skill on a standard bike. Nothing makes you a better rider than loose dirt and few falls. Master the figure of 8 on loose gravel with a bike fitted with 80/20 tires and then let's see who still needs traction control.

This is a really good explanation of traction control and most all youtubers who test bikes leave this out and talk about how intrusive it is and never talk about how usefull it can be. Great job!

Handy tip, if you find yourself on a steep loose climb with TC killing your accent, slip the clutch in and out to get some rear bite. Got me out of a situation I didn't want to stop in until I could switch off TC

Thought this video was going to be as bad as the last one with these guys, but I purservered and in the end it was ok. Plenty of very relevant and useful info. Liked it. Hated the intro.

I love this channel! Another great clip, thank you! From my experience, TC is not a slam dunk on rocky climbs. On a R1200 GSA, Enduro Pro mode, climbing a steep and loose rocky section with TC activated, the bike slowed to the point where progress halted. Mid-climb I started slowing, so I kept opening the throttle, then changed down to 1st and kept opening the throttle... alas, I kept slowing. Deactivating TC was needed to make that climb.

TC very well explained - well done. I find it interesting that the 2 new mid-size ADV bikes just out (Tenere 700 and KTM 790) have very different approaches to this. The T700 has no TC, simple ABS on/off, and more moderate linear power (70 hp). The more powerful, more expensive 790 has TC and many other bells & whistles. I think both bikes will sell well mainly because they are lighter in weight compared to the bigger 1200s etc. It will come down to personal preference and budget. Some people will like the simplicity of the 700. Others will prefer having the option of dialling up a TC system to a level that suits the terrain. I look forward to testing both when the 700 arrives in Australia.

Thanks Gents! Your video just single-handedly sold my wife on me getting a 15 year newer motorcycle. I'm looking for your Patreon page as you are reading this!!! Great content, keep it coming. :)

Just picked up a new 1090 and this video really helped me understand the TC settings. Thanks!

Hands down the best explanation of TC systems I've seen.. Very well done.

Abs is a blessing. I turned mine off for the first time while going off road today and I am very surprised at how much it really helps for on road riding

Excelente video! Keep em coming this is one of the best adv moto channel on KZfaq 👊👍

I know you think that opening 'gag reel' is amusing but seriously guys.. 01:32 in and the content hasn't started yet.. not good. The content after was useful however. Pro tip - next time stick the 'fun' stuff in your edit at the end. ;)

Outstanding best presentation of how these modes work on the sand. Thank you.

That was a Spectacular explanation!

The sand track demo was really nice to see and understand.

@5:52 How should to set up system when driving uphill? to be safe and the best In your opinion : Drive mode: Rain mode or Road mode or Sport mode TCC : On or Off Abs : On or Off Remark : I drive a Tiger 800 XCX.Thank you information....^^

I had heard different things from many people. A lot of them said that traction control and ABS should be turned off completely for off-road. I have almost no experience off-road on my ADV bike. Turning the traction control to a mode that allows some slippage makes more sense than turning it off completely. Now I need to watch a video addressing ABS off-road. Thanks for the info!

Ha ha, "I like more drama in my rides!" Well-explained vid, thanks.

Great explanation thanks. I have the features but wasn’t completely educated on the workings.

Cut the intro blooper stuff out...get to it!

Love that shot of the Columbia! Gorgeous!!

If your traction control is like mine on the 690 Enduro R, it is not as refined setting wise. On road/Offroad TC either on or off. You will have issues on soft dirt hill climbs. The 690 will stall if TC is not turned off. Reason being as the back wheel spins (which you need to keep going) it rolls off the throttle and momentum is lost and bike stalls. As the video says, make sure you undesrstand how your system works and it's limitations.

We need more detailed video on this. Hope we get soon.. 😀

Ok, now I need to go find the beach you were riding on and give my traction control the business

If you are going down, keep hold of the bars. Do not put out your arm. If you land on an outstretched palm you are likely to fracture your wrist or collar bone. Better to fall on to your shoulder and hip.

Ready to leave work and play with this on my scrambler 1200!

Good vid, as expected and I wouldn't have these gadgets if you gave them to me and neither will I ever have a self-driving car.

cool my bike has nothing of that sort i guess i would have to use my brain and skills

These vids are spot-on and very helpful. Thanks, Mototrek! And to repeat, your drummer is swinging! (That's a compliment.)

Saw this a month ago and liked it. Saw it today after trying and not liking '14 GS Rain mode up a washboard dirt road hill. More info needed. After that, please make a "downhill video" about rocky sandy downhills, straight and curvy, as I read that getting the brakes to work right becomes a challenge then.

Straight to the point. Clear and concise. Thanks for the video.

So as I understood, the proper situation to shut the TC is in the deep sand. Right?

cool vid, I need to find a beech now .

On my Africa Twin CRF, I put my TC off as soon as I ride on smooth terrain or steep climb. Not sure if this TC really helps in anything !? I just control the power delivery with the throttle !

Not all traction controls are equal. Try to go up a rocky hill on a Tiger800 xc, traction control will pretty much bring you to a dead stop before you're halfway up. No limited slippage, no amount of weight shifting will fix it... it just has to be turned off... The Xca has limited slippage but I haven't tried one. So... just saying... what you guys are saying is valid for the bikes you had, but really doesn't apply to all and would have been worth mentioning.

Thanks for the video, and nice to see you sportin' Randolph sunglasses, the only sunglasses still Made in the USA.

On public roads traction control will save your life it's brilliant

Please gents keep it professional as I almost bailed.

So cool. I have a KTM 790 Adventure R with all those gizmos. Guess I don’t need all the fancy protective clothing now.

New to adventure bikes, and don't even own one yet, but are you saying at the end of the video that you should turn off the traction control system.....or use the off-road mode????

Where did you guys record this? Looks like an awesome beach!

Yeeechhhh .... not for me ..... I’ll keep my KLR ... :)

Bikes without an off switch and have the front sensor eliminated by jumping the rear sensor and the front sensor so that the system gets the same readings thinking its the front and rear. Install a 3 way switch and you will have the option of using traction control when you want.

great vid as usual.... and I have to say I love the sound track.... parts of it remind me of Antonio Sanchez

I'm curious how the "Gravel" mode in my Africa compares to your "Rain" mode? Just made me wonder why the Africa doesn't have a "rain" mode. Added: Mine is a 2019 version.

thanks - you told me exactly what I wanted to know about traction control!

I go thumbs up for TC on normal tarmac roads but not off road riding.

What an awesome video. Thank you !

So I have a ktm 390 adventure with lean angle TC but no rider modes. Also have abs with optional off road mode. Would it be best in normal trail riding conditions to leave the traction control on? I've only ever rode enduro bikes so these fancy electronics are sorcery to me

Interesting and informative, especially as I have little experience and knowledge of traction control. My one experience was being given a brand new AT to test ride and being told to turn the TC on off-road and go whatever speed I wanted. I didn't quite do that...but I did ride a hell of a lot better than my ability would have allowed me... My reaction to that was that I'd prefer to learn those skills myself than have the bike do them for me. For now, on a CB500X, I have little need for it. (A very forgiving bike with only 47Hp). Still I know a lot more about it now - thanks :)

start watching at 01:30. Before that its just small talk

well done gents

For everyone who's exhausted at first 10 seconds: you can start watching from 1:26. You're welcome. P.S. That's probably the reason why those two haven't done any more videos on this channel.

Does Traction control work along with the ABS ? Or let me put it this way, does Traction control go off if I turn my ABS off or pull out my ABS fuse to turn off ABS ? MY Vstrom 650 has 2 traction control modes and it confuses me a bit sometimes.

Great video!!! Thank you

Great Info. I have the 2017 R1200GSA and to many modes... LOL Thanks again.

I got the F850GS as in the video, but without ride modes besides ROAD and RAIN. I hope I can upgrade later to the other modes (I'm poor).

[1st minute - no pressure at all guys! :D] Great video! Thanks for simple but detailed enough explanation with presentations. I wonder if TC will lead to lack of skills in the future for motorcyclist. No doubt it is useful, it is helpful, but would be great to get all riders to learn how to deal with difficult situations on non-supported motorcycle. Thanks again for this video!

That's thecdifference between you young kids and us old dinosaurs...we had to use all our senses at all times and have our own computer control the wrist...nowdays electronics make these rides available to plenty ppl, maybe even to some that shouldn't yet be riding something heavy n powerful

Excellent explanation; presumably that stuff still goes for my S1000 XR but with less off road drama?

All electronic aids should be able to be shut off so that if one were inclined to increase skill level and learn to control their bike (or car) or want to have manual control they can.

I have a KTM 790R which has plenty of TC, ABS and throttle response modes - which are great. One question I have is what is the best for deep soft sand ? I think, but have not experimented enough, that maybe best with no TC or lowest TC (1 on scale of 1-9 on 790R) . I assume you just need grunt (spin) to get up momentum (speed) to get out and on top of the soft sand .... appreciate if anybody has tips / proven experience - thanks ! (chunky tyres also helps)

sure....all these electronic stuff makes riding easier, more comfortable, more whatever.... I would like to compare this with preparing coffee. I can use a full automatic machine and just push a button to get me a cup of coffee. Or i can powder the beans , poor the hot water slowly by hand , like in earlier days my mom or grandma did. Both ways will give you the same result......a cup of coffee or climbing up a step hill...... I dont want to miss the feeling i made it by myself....thats my personal joy :-)

Traction control? No. Just install a sand paddle and put in a supercharged H2 engine. Always doubt, always throttle out.

Great and informative video guys ! Impressed......

I have a 200 cc Chinese dual sport. Why am I watching this?

I appreciated this info since I just bought a used Yamaha Super Tenere in January and haven't had a lot of practice off road yet. Although I have dropped it twice in the mud, once because my right pant leg caught on the master cylinder cover for the back brake. Now I can think about how to use the TCS to my advantage. Is there a video out that Mototrek did on how to slide the back tire around on bike that have constant "on" ABS? I saw the video that Bret did with the BMW and the Honda AT, but I couldn't afford either of those bikes so I need help learning how to do something I grew up doing on every bike I rode except my Moto Guzzi 750 Ambassador. The drum brakes lacked serious braking ability on my Guzzi.

Great explanation! Very clear and great examples.

Excellent video gents. Thanks :)

Expertly explained. Thank you!

“but for a newer rider, somebody that hasn’t really fine tuned their ability to manage traction on the ground, an electronic traction control is a fantastic tool to keep your ride safe and secure” So when will you learn how to fine tune your ability to manage traction control?

Thanks. Very informative.

I have the older version of the traction control on my 2010 r1200gs and I always ride with both traction control and abs off as it gives me a lot more control in offroad conditions and I know the bike well enough to let it do what I want without software chipping in.

anyone can give conclusion ? should we use tcs or not?🙄

My first downvote for a Mototrek video. I haven’t seen such a condescending video from a supposedly training site. My complaints: 1) You say @1:22, “...if you can’t read your owners manual...” well, my owners manual has about one paragraph on traction control. It states what it is, not how or when to use it. 2) You explain what traction control is but doesn’t explain when to use it or when to completely disable it (this is what the manual covers). I know how but not when to use it. It mentions either on or off, but not settings 1, 2 or 3. Big difference. Please stop the condescending videos. I’m here to learn and don’t need turn-off smart-assed comments

Very interesting and informative video with an annoying blooper-intro! I rate you 4.999 stars out of 5.

Good clip

We need a Wheelie mode.

Thanks great informative video . Thanks

This stuff is fine on the street; but is completely crutch and very intrusive offroad. ABS will have me rolling into trees the way I ride (from experience).

i learn something today ;-) merci

on the ktm can u go sport mode with offroad traction control?

Is it necessary to have traction control

Traction control on dirt is bullshit, I cant drift my 1200 gs with it on, I cant climb steep mountain passes, Its a kill joy, traction control holds you back on dirt, learn to ride and handle on dirt, if its raining and I'm on Tar, I leave ABS and TCS on.Dont believe the opinion in this video entirely, I cant climb a rocky hill with TRc on, it's ridiculous, I disagree with you guys on this one, If you climbing a tough loose rocky pass , and TRC comes on, you loose power and traction and will stall

Video starts at 1.30. For some reason

Nice informative content 👍

all my motorcycles have manual traction control, and i use gloves on the devices.

My T7 is all rider input

so basically it makes you a better driver than you are

This is a fun channel 😂😂 (start)

The political ads are ruining your channel. people come here to avoid political stuff but to be inundated with political ads on a motorcycle channel?

All the KTM modes are garbage except for street. Street off-road and on road, rain or shine.

Good one!

Someone see motocross bike with abs and traction control?