You change your socks?

Milking that $7500 tax credit. They're taking the credit, trading it it for probably near MSRP, rinse repeat. Not supposed to take the credit if you buy intending to resell, but hey, what's a little tax fraud between dad and son?

Agreed! And each time they buy, "it's the greatest car ever" then 3 months later (or whatever) trading it in.

@@skywalker2852 I don't get it either. It's not like the new one is considerably better than the previous.

@@PQV-8898 Kia is way better than a VW

I thought the same thing, but for $250 I had a 240v NEMA 14-50 outlet installed in my garage. Even a basic 16amp 240v charger ($200 on Amazon) will charge at 3x the speed of 120v. You never know when you might want a quicker charge in case you need to use the car for longer trips after work.

@@mowcowbell Well that and actually use less electricity too (there's a higher conversion rate penalty charging at the lower voltage.)

Have been charging my i-pace inside on a 120 for bout 6 weeks while another vehicle is in shop - 240 awaiting back in the elements - 😆

I'm always surprised that people dismiss it and quote how long it would take to go from 10% to 100%. The solution would be to charge it sooner than 10% and use a fast charger if you are ever in a situation where you are at 10% and need it closer to 90%.

I rocked the 110v for over a year. It was totally manageable. Once or twice had to go do a third party charger top up. Getting the 240v turned it from being manageable to being something I dont really think about

I just put a deposit on one.

All the local Hyundai dealers in Western NY have 1-2 ChargePoints like this installed. Free to use with the ChargePoint app and you even get a branded Hyundai/ChargePoint NFC card you can tie to your CP account. Basically saves you taking out your phone but convenient. Our selling dealer on our I5 Ltd is 2 miles from our house and in a great area for restaurants and shopping. Their CPs are just 62.5 KW units with one CCS and one Chad plug each.

I really like the id4. But next to the Ioniq 5 the id4 all in a sudden looks so frumpy.

There was the MK7 e-Golf, but was limited in range due to a small battery (35kWh) and discontinued. It still is a great car and I really love mine (2017 e-Golf SEL)

It's ironic that Ioniq 5 looks more like a traditional VW design and nothing like any Hyundai and VW is going into a totally different design language with their I.D. EV's.

both cars inspired by Giorgio Guigaro. He designed the MK1 and the Hyundai Pony.

@@leonarddejesus6752 Hi I have a e Golf 2015 SEL it was a California car and now it lives in Canada on the Est Coast I’m a European car technician and I had to have one I love it but one thing I wish it had is a heated battery pack I lose so much range when the battery is cold but I try to keep it in a heated garage during the winter months if there was a mode that would just keep the battery at 80% soc and keep the temperature at room temperature when the car is connected to a AC supply I think that just for fun I might build a heated coolant loop underneath the battery with PEX plastic pipes or in floor radiant heating coils this is what they should have From the Factory what I always wonder how the car is able to charge when the pack is under freezing conditions as you know lithium cell are not supposed to be charged under freezing conditions I was never able to find any information on this subject I have look in self studies programs and did not find any answers.

Everyone should wait like you. These additional dealer fees are ridiculous

im with you, no rush to get this car with the mark up

same here. i have an id4 awd on order. would like to get this car but the mark up here in cali is beyond ridiculous for a production car

I went to their website and they have markups for all the Ioniq 5”s. At least they are honest about it and let you know upfront unlike other dealerships where you have to find out once you get there.

When you change vehicles as often as he does. Does he really need it to be at MSRP?

Tell us briefly your impression of each in one sentence

did you qualify for the $7500 fed credit per vehicle not in the same year obviously

@@brianborkowski5977 ID4- competent all around, great driving car with great range held back by poor software. Ioniq 5 is also a great driving car with great interior room and a solid all around daily driver. Dislike the lack of battery conditioning and hence slow charging in winter

@@Tsuave30 Yes. As far as I can tell, there are no restrictions on how many of the $7500 credits you can take. I didn't get them in the same year but I don't think that would be an issue either. For state incentives, however, you have to pay back (if there are any)

@@tomcramer1450 good point about the preconditioning. I assume a software OTA update could fix that issue. 🤔

How long will you have to wait for your ID4 from date of order.

@@geosam56 well. Has been a long wait for most. For our first edition we waited almost a year and We ordered our Awd last September and I doubt we get it before June. If you need one quicker I suggest scanning dealers and let them know interest in case folks don’t go through with purchase

Same height here. I've only driven the ID4, but I found the dashboard and doors to be a bit high and restricting of good visibility, didn't like that. Kyle says he likes a car where you feel down in it, but I prefer good visibility of my immediate surroundings. Ioniq 5 seems more to my liking so long as the windshield and roof isn't too low.

ID4 is much larger, and more efficient

@@shemmo ID.4 is not much larger at all. I've owned both.

@@FreddyRozen I guess he is referring to the room inside.

Yeah a lot of grocery stores have tons of excess parking, especially off to the sides. I am actually looking at buying a plaza right now which has a ton of extra parking, I could probably put in about 50 chargers easily and not touch the existing spots that are there. Trying to figure out how much it will cost and if there are any programs that will pay for them

We have quite a few supermarkets here in the UK which provide chargers - albeit farly low powered ones but in some cases free. A restaurant less than a mile from my house has a 50 kw DC charger which is available to anyone - even if not using the restaurant but 350 kw chargers are few and far between....

Beat on that landlord! EV charging - not expensive at all for a L2 Chargepoint setup, or similar - will be a perk for current and future tennants.

Or charging at work.

Thanks for watching!

As OCD as I am that matte paint would NEVER work for me. I like to keep a smooth finish.

I could only afford the base model that isn’t available yet 50 to 60,000 is too much for me

@@markfitzpatrick6692 Yes, it's a lot of money, although I'd argue it's relatively good value compared to other EVs with the same sort of tech and space.

Laser was a Plymouth. Dodge was a Daytona. Very cool - and for a time, desirable - hatchbacks back in the mid 80’s.

@@dennislyon5412 Wait!! I had the Laser. It was a Chrysler!

I normally hold on too, but the used market is stupid right now with EVs that I don't blame anyone for trading up. Obviously, he was paying more for each higher level trim even if he was essentially breaking even on the previous car when you take into account car fees, taxes, and interest.

How cool! Good luck w your car 🚗

You can take $7,500 tax credit once a year for as many times as you chose.

Credit should really be limited to once per year and I think you should have to own vehicle for at least until end of calendar tear to claim the credit. I saw a used Ioniq with 700 miles at MSRP, but it should really be sold for $7500 under MSRP since it is no longer eligible for tax credit.

Hey Chantelle. Thanks for the help today enabling my first EA session with this new i5 rig. Great job!

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I giddy out because it looks like a Delorian.

It looks like a VW Corrado to me, one of my favorite cars.

I feel the same way, like am I missing something here lol... just really boxy and ugly looking to me.

re: "looks like a 1978 Plymouth Horizon" ouch that hurt, i used to drive one of those ya know. #HORIZONLIVESMATTER

Agreed, if he paid MSRP it's cuz of the "KZfaqr discount". Sucks for us peons who can't benefit.

Aaron, what dealership? I too would like the RWD Limited in Digital Teal (two tone green interior), but there are none. I'd buy an AWD in a minute if they'd sell it to me for the RWD price. I'm near Albany and you are on LI, right?

@@tomrossman9371 check their inventory. Centereach Hyundai. The only reason I got the AWD at the RWD price was because they were supposed to get a few in stock in the next couple weeks. I put down the deposit for it then they said they were getting no ioniq 5 models for the next 45 days. So whatever is in stock is what they are selling. They are selling at MSRP so no mark ups. They have plenty but not sure of the trim you want. Good luck.

Got an AWD in the UK. It’s pretty good to be fair Ioniq 5 Real World Drive kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNWbhLipurexpJc.html

They are both great cars for sure. But there are many things I like more about the Ioniq5. Thinking of shooting a video update this weekend to share my thoughts…

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