interesting, I couldn’t get it to work on mine with OBD11 for my Q3

They don't remove it. They just don't give it unless you pay for the upgrade.

Not possible on the latest models with just obd11. Need VW servers for paramaterization as well

I would say if it's a leased car then some eagle eyed ones may have an issue and say you modified the car. Never heard of an issue like that though.

You'll need the right hardware, but there are extra steps required such as parameterization which is another security step requiring dealership software. Not possible with just obd11

@@laymandiy Thanks. I have the latest Golf Mk8 Life (1 month old) with all the required hardware (camera in windscreen etc). For some obscure reason only the vehicles sold in Europe and UK have this function enabled but not in Australia. Function can be enabled on a Mk7.5 but the same technique does not work on the Mk8. Dealer is not willing to do anything! Hence my interest in your method.

Multiple things, e.g. it doesn't have data for your country. Sometimes it's just you need to take it for a drive

Do you have the correct camera?

Unfortunately, tsr data needs to be loaded into the camera. For many countries this wasn't done. Unfortunately, you will not be able to get this functionality. However, if you drive through a country where it exists it will turn on

If you have the kit, follow the instructions. If your camera requires parameterization, it just won't work. Revert to original

It's the next stage to this that is really good. The predictive cruise control. Slows down and speeds up based on traffic signs.

Sorry, no chance. Need additional equipment

I'm sure it sure but it would be a trial and error with the bits.

I don't think it's possible at the moment without parameterization if camera which involves connection to the VW servers

Should be. However it appears is a mixed bag depending on the camera you have. I'm sure it's fine for 18my

I normally say after 2020 it's hit and miss with these procedures, so unlikely, sorry.

Yes should do.

Are there any steps your weren't able to complete? Have you driven the car since?

If you don't have blind spot from factory then you're missing the mirrors and the 2 rear sensors that go into the bumper. You won't have be able to just code them in.

@@laymandiy I have the whole hardware from harnesses, radars or controllers and the mirror indicator lights, I know how to connect the wires I just need to understand how to code it using OBDeleven

@@laymandiy actually all the hardware is OEM and specifically for my VW CC

Have you used an ob11 app at some point?

@@laymandiy sorry for the late reply. I've used to activate some apps with credits, but never long coding before. Any suggestions at all please? Many thanks

Yes the last option of VZE / VZA I explain in the video which option to select. Ideally you want a hybrid where it shows maps signs and then it overwrites it with what it's picked up from the camera

It's still possible. However there are extra steps outside of vcds to do, unfortunately.

What would be that extra step?

Parameterisation of the hardware , you need to do it online direct with vw

You need at least vcds hex-v2. Some countries don't have tsr. If it works in Germany there is nothing wrong with the setup. Maybe try trying the vze option in long coding (see video)

You will most likely need to parameterization of the camera. If you have lane keep assist, you have the right camera.

(I've 5Q0 camera with a working Lane Assist)

Not possible on the letter models with just obd11

Definitely not, this is vag group

New Tourneo Connect is made by VAG so I wondered if it would work - same factory, hardware and software @@laymandiy

I am aware but I'm not sure what diagnostic interface it uses. I would assume that it would be ford for service etc. Nonetheless even if it's VW, it wouldn't be possible since it would require parametrisation as well which is not possible with obd11

You want map speeds or real life speeds picked up by the camera?

Yes, with the addition of parametrisation which will need to be done with dealer software or vcp. It's not easy..

Unfortunately it only seems to work well with the first gen mqb hit and miss with the second gen (depending on hardware used) and doesn't work at all for Evo.

I have Cupra Formentor 2022 Europe, and i dont have traffic sign recognition, but i do have traffic signs on my nav. Can you tell me could i code it on virtual cockpit, at least i would like to have signs from nav read on cockpit?@@laymandiy

You may not have the right hardware, e.g. camera

Possibly, check if you have the right camera

Would love to, but lane assist is slightly more complicated as you need to have the right hardware installed and enabled. Unless you're talking about the "drunk" version of lane assist

I turned it on using OBDeleven but since mine does not have the control switch it is always on and activates on speed higher than 40mph. I would agree to layman that it is mostly drunk version.😊

Yes

Unfortunately you need more tools on the newer models. But you can change mood lighting in the car. Not sure about the dash colours

Yes..

@@laymandiy Both OBD and modules look a little different for me. 'Traffic sign recognition 0x21' (no underscores) is found under 'Vehicle function list BAP' 'Menu display road sign identification' is found under 'Vehicle menu operation' When long coding, none of the bits are labelled. On updating controller 17, byte 5, bit 2, I get the same 'Dynamic Road Sign Display Error' in the dash, so same coding seems to apply Finally, on locating controller 5F, byte 24, bit 6, it was already unchecked, despite the fact that I have the display of Nav traffic signs activated. This makes me wonder if the coding should be different on this model? The end result is that no traffic signs are displayed and I when I select the Road Signs in the dash, I get the 'Road Sign Display Error' message. Any thoughts or advice you can offer?

@@garynicholson360 The slight renaming of things is poor admin from obd11 however the byte/bit may not have descriptions for your vehicle but if it's mqb platform you should be fine. As always it's advised to do a backup so you can revert to it. However similar names under a different adaption, I don't think would work. However this is the beauty, you can try it and revert if it doesn't.

There are many variables here. For example if you're in country which doesn't allow it, or it cannot recognise the traffic signs in your country

@@laymandiy No meu país é permitido. é um Audi a4 b9 de 2018.

Ativei o assistente de faixa e está a funcionar.

Definitely not

@@laymandiy any idea for ID4 cars in how to do it

Is it permanently on ? Normally clearing all the faults and a drive fixes it

Should do, yes if you have all the hardware.

@@laymandiy it has got a camera on the windscreen. What other hardware do I need? Thanks

There isn't enough information here to determine. Front assist and acc doesn't mean you'll have TSR. The main thing is the camera given that you don't have lane assist or TSR already makes me think you don't have the right camera.

@laymandiy Thank you for ur response 🙏 I also think I don't have the camera. But I need the oem parts to make it work. But I don't know which camera part exactly I need. I don't wanna use a thirt party part.

Don't think there is a third party part you can even use. Part should be easy to find, just find the parts catalogue online and look for the part number for a spec of vehicle that has it. Most likely will start with 5q0 ...

Car?

@@laymandiy troc 2020

Do you have the A5 camera or Adaptive lane assist

What trim level do you have? You need at least premium plus or greater...

@@laymandiy I do have premium plus.

@@yury.k So whilst you have the hardware, these steps are for MQB you have the MLB Evo. So whilst this may not work for you, it appears you have the hardware ready. I will have to look into MLB evo I do not have a car at hand to make the assesment.

I have found that it's a 2 step process. 1st step is paramatisation of the camera which can only be done using ODIS / VCP and the second step is to use obd11 or vcds to finish the coding.

@@laymandiy Thank you for trying! Are there any instructions that cover that process?

It just means it's not picking up any signs. What country are you in?

@@laymandiy i see all of traffic signs, recognizing is perfect, but still this error. every time after 45 km/h or 5 minutes run. I'm from Israel. Maybe it need to write correct country number in par_country_code_RSR and Par_country_code_VZF ?

You can try that.

@@laymandiy That - how?

Take it for drive, if not then I'm afraid you also need camera parameterisation. It's a newer model thing.

@@laymandiy I have taken it for a drive and still the same result. I will check around for some more information since it's a later model. Thanks for your great video!

Most likely the the camera needs to be parameterised

I have been informed that if you have the right hardware, there will be the extra step of parametrisation of the camera required

Yes, so newer models are struggling with this. There is more security. Once it's been worked out, I'll post a new video. As it stands there is a step that you cannot do without vw involvement so stuck atm.

@@laymandiy Ah, I see. I couldn't use any of the apps either - they let me select "yes" but then failed to write after I ticked save. The credits were used then refunded. Was that also caused by the additional security? Is it worth me keeping the product? I currently can't do much with it. When do you think it will be worked out? Thank you for your help so far.

I wouldn't touch the apps at all.. they are just a series of commands in a script, known to cause problems, because you don't know what exact changes it is doing. Up to you, it's a good diagnostic tool as well for all VW maybe help some locals out for a couple of quid here there and you've made your money back

Car make, model, year, and which step are you doing?

It's not the version, it's the car. It dependant on obdeleven company putting descriptions for your car in the database.

You can try, but I think the bolero struggles with the fusion mode where as Columbus works out of the box and Amundsen has a better chance.

@@laymandiy thank you for answering!!!! What is fusion mode? I run navi with my phone over Android Auto and USB and have no speed limit shown on instrument cluster (if this is fusion that you have mentioned). I just need that road sign that is read is shown at instrument cluster in front driver, but not on the Bolero. Can I just skip some of your steps then?

@@laymandiy Yeap, works, but works very bad and unreliable.

I think you'd need to follow all the steps and flick between fusion / non. Fusion steps in to substittute map data

Not sure, is your VCDS genuine?

Seems unlikely they'd install a camera if you have nothing that uses it. The camera is pretty big from the front of the windscreen you should see two notches, one is camera and the other is rain sensor. Sounds like you probably just have the rain sensor

@@laymandiy I did take a closer look and there is a camera there above the rain sensor. I did also look at my dads s5 which has drivers assistance and they look the same. It does make some sense from a manufacturing perspective to just make one assembly for all q7s so that maybe why it’s there. I do also have pre sense so that’s why it could be there. I’m not 100% sure if it is the right a5 camera I’ve seen mentioned and if it is will it require tweaking and coding I’m not willing todo to get the rest of the drivers assistance besides acc

There's two ways either obd11 it and do the changes see what pops up. Or detrim and check the model of the camera

@@laymandiyI do believe it will work as I just activated lane keep assist with the obd11 app and it works. I only have the free tier so I maybe I’ll poke around later

No, acc and front assist use only the radar. Generally sportline doesnt come with upgraded cameras.

If you have the big camera (A5) then yes. Or if you already have lane assist.

Tried the long coding way, and there's nothing remotely similar as option to what's shown in your tutorial video or in other pages in the web. Vw must have changed something on newer >2021 Tiguans

Yes they have.. newer ones require parametrisation on the camera to enable the bits and adaptions on the obd11. Unfortunately it's out of scope for most people as it requires using official VW equipment with a dealer code.

You'll need paramaterization as well. Cannot be done with vcds / obd11

Doubt it, it's not on mqb platform.

Vze is hit or miss. Have you taken it for a drive?

@@laymandiy hey thanks for replaying. Yes i have and its working. But when i drive past a speed limit with 60 and a line over (means the speed limit is 80) then it shows nothing. And whwn i drive it sometimes says «limited functionality» on my MFD display. What does that mean? I am living in Norway btw.

Limited functionality means it hasn't picked up a road sign either from the camera or the maps data. Laws around speed on maps vary from country so it could be multitude of things. yh it might not have what that means. In the UK a kind of black and white no entry sign means national speed and it does pick that up on mine.

@@laymandiy thats what i mean, black and white sign. I asked a friend with an audi rs3 218, and his car detects those signs as well. There are nothing i can do? At least its working with most speed limit signs.

Not yet

Sorry, I don't think so. As it doesn't have the adaptions / long coding

This is for mqb platform you have MLB where the camera needs to be parameterised first followed by these codings on obd11 or vcds

@@laymandiy so is it possible for me to parameterized the camera? Or should I take my car to mechanic to do that? Sorry but all these terms are very new to me. I just googled the mqb vs mlb platform so got to know my car is on different plantform.

You can parameterise yourself if you know how, it's not as simple as what is shown in this video. You'll need to research and learn what's required the steps etc.. you can use VCP or ODIS plus you'll need the interface to connect to your car. Any old mechanic cannot do this you'll need to go to retrofit specialist.

Yes it would.

Sorry this is most likely not compatible with your car.

@@laymandiy copied on that thank You for prompt Reply

Is your lane assist adaptive? I.e. you have adaptive option which centres the car between the lines?

@@laymandiy not sure but the lane assist does automatically steer the car back to the lane if I don't touch the wheel. I don't think I have an option to change that to just notify of lane change. If I don't indicate, the car will try to steer its way back into the middle of the lane

The effort involved in enabling this would not be worth the hassle if you're asking this question. Unfortunately they are not a simple plug and play device.

Need more then that, have you got the cameras?

Yes I trust I do have the cam Is there any way to check

Easiest would be the trim level you have. But if you look at the rear view mirror if the base it goes into isn't at least a handspan then you don't have the camera... Bear in mind there are 2 types of camera and the bigger one is the one you need

What country are you in?

@@laymandiy New Zealand.

I would go back redo the steps, perhaps try flicking the VZE toggle

@@laymandiy Yes, I did the flick the vze to coded, and the MMI has a menu to set +10km/h, +15km/h, but the instrument cluster cannot show any traffic sign.

Does your nav screen on the dash not cockpit show speed signs, even as the ones from maps or better yet the one being scanned by the camera?

Not at the moment.

If it has all the hardware, don't see why not

@@laymandiy It has the camera on top of the window as you pointed out. What does the traffic sign recognition actually do?

@@lb1011 all I can say is give it a go. The camera recognises real traffic signs. Really useful for variable speed limits.

Not yet. It doesn't really work on cars 2021 onwards

Are you able to see the option for vze?

@@laymandiy is that in the same A5

Byte 16 bit 04 should read traffic vze somethinf is that the same for you as well?

@@laymandiy there is no descriptions when i look at the (bits) for each byte. On yours it tells you on some of the bits what they activate.

Make model year and trim level please

You can try it, somewhere in 2020 they switched to requiring parameterisation

Link to navigation isn't superficial. Try flicking the VZE parameter in long coding. Also silly question, is your windscreen clean.

The windscreen is crystal clear 🙂 I will try this, but as far as I have searched a lot of people have the same problem with me and noone has ever found a solution. I think the VZE parameter was unchecked

I can see why not having maps can be an issue. Would it be easier to add navigation?

No, it is almost impossible. I'll have to change the infotainment unit, change the wiring and then verify the new infotainment in an official AUDI service. And I forgot to tell you that AUDI says that I cannot make this upgrade 😛 dead-end!

Sorry, not at the moment.

If you click on the control unit, go to the live data parameters check if you have "SFD activated status" Unfortunately, newer cars, VW has put some security that obdeleven can circumvent but it's a bit of a hit and miss.

@@laymandiy Thanks, will check it tomorrow.

Borderline, not sure. Some 2020 models+ require parametrisation

Car? Year?

@@laymandiy 2023 skoda karoq. I found it under different menu. Bu I received message "Traffic Sign is not functional". I guess İt is closed in My country TR Other websites said Road sign Fusion should change to Road sign Detection. " It is not changable. " "Under messages were not shown" Control unit A5 (front / advance camera) Adaptation Select : channel numbers indicate end of speed limit Importance to actively invest Show Valid suffix View Channel Valid suffix Corresponding value adjust default: 00100111 Traffic_sign_recognition_0x21_msg_bus = Databus Infotainment / Databus extended ???? One website said that you should be changed camera parametres

@@Kanaryago that's correct. The camera for newer models needs to be parameterised, as it stands, can only be done directly via vw

Yes, I believe it should, as it's old enough to not require parametrisation

Everywhere where it is legally allowed, yes.

Gps and maps aren't the relevant items on this. The high line camera on the front is.. it needs to be there for it to detect traffic signs .

@@laymandiy cool ! My VW Atlas comes with front camera sensors .. I’ll try this with my OBDeleven … thanks

What was the error?

There is one other way to do this but need to know if you have a HUD

Unlikely... There will be other steps

Did you flip the VZE toggle?

@@laymandiy what is it about?

Please watch the section in the video about vze

You'll need additional tools not just obd11

What is additional tools, could u tell me pls?

For starters, vcp, subscription VW servers to activate and finally this to do the coding (you can use vcp also)

Have you taken it for a drive?

Possibly, but doubt you have the hardware installed. Plus it's the mlb platform so steps will be different

Not without paramaterization.

It's not necessary but if you don't even have nav then I doubt you have the right camera

@@laymandiy how do i know what type my camera is , i'v Skoda Superb compi 2019

The profile of your rear view mirror base. If it's large with a camera lens

Did you take it for a drive after?

@@laymandiy yes unfortunately