Train Sim World 2020 - Can you rush learning PZB?

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4 жыл бұрын

After a BRIEF read of the quick look guide on PZB and SIFA, so lets see how we get on with the DB BR 425 on the Hauptstrecke Rhein Ruhr from Duisburg to Essen.
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@Beastlysimmer_uk
@Beastlysimmer_uk 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else screeming at the screen when he was not lowering power when he was getting close to 45 kmh
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, wanted to speed up lol
@Martin-cf6yv
@Martin-cf6yv 4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry you are not the only one LOL
@mr.haitian2729
@mr.haitian2729 3 жыл бұрын
i mastered pzb few weeks ago. loving germain routes more!!!!!!!
@meticulousgeek
@meticulousgeek 3 жыл бұрын
Each mode has 4 speeds associated with it: max, 100hz, 500hz start and 500hz. You can find out the mode you're in by looking at the PZB indicator lights. The corresponding 1000hz speed light will light up. So, if the 85 light is on that means you're in mode O (passenger). If the 70 light is on then it's mode M (fast breaking freight) and when 55 is on that means you're in mode U (slow breaking freight). Mode is set once *before* you turn on PZB and doesn't change by itself. However, if you want to change modes it's possibly to switch PZB off, change mode and then turn it on again. Or change mode and turn PZB on and off, that will work as well. It's also probably a good idea to not use SIFA when you're learning PZB for the first time.
@tehangrybird345
@tehangrybird345 3 жыл бұрын
Speedrunning has advanced to Train Sim World
@theunclebsimchannel6434
@theunclebsimchannel6434 4 жыл бұрын
Well, just learned something new
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
How not to do it? LOL
@atent5124
@atent5124 3 жыл бұрын
Being serious, learnt PZB in an hour and thirty minutes from PTG rail
@Michaelxxx1936
@Michaelxxx1936 Жыл бұрын
Yes, just forget all the chat and go to PTG rail for most rail Sim tutorials. All his videos are superbly presented and are a joy to watch.
@francislouiseocampo2750
@francislouiseocampo2750 3 жыл бұрын
Is this available in train sim world 2020 collectors edition
@Beastlysimmer_uk
@Beastlysimmer_uk 4 жыл бұрын
Of it is flashing 70 85 it means you are in monatring that means you cannot exceed 45 kmh, but it's best to stay around 40 kmh to allow for leway, if there is not a Magnet in sight you can clear pzb with the pg down key on the keyboard, how use Q for sifa acknowledging and del for pzb acknowledging
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
It’s gonna be some extra work to get used to it all
@jamesstevenson9340
@jamesstevenson9340 4 жыл бұрын
Taken me a few goes to finally use Pzb confidently and just makes the game more fun and challenging handy having a keyboard connected to my xbox so can use the pzb a bit more easily. All in all good video recommend you download the manual from the msb route as that helped me understand pzb and sometimes the key references are handy by me as pzb changes from freight to passenger services
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
Yea I use a keyboard. I think the next video I record, I might use PZB. maybe not the dB Br 204 scenario I keep failing on LOL
@nomis1246
@nomis1246 4 жыл бұрын
MegaSim if you want an easier track with PZB than take „Rapid Transit“. I would say Main Spessart Bahn (MSB) is the hardest track with PZB.
@TheBritishAce
@TheBritishAce 4 жыл бұрын
Just missed the stream, was out walking, are be in next time, when is the next one?
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
No worries, did a video and thought I have enough time for a little stream. Enjoy!
@TheBritishAce
@TheBritishAce 4 жыл бұрын
@@MegaSim Fair enough 😁
@frankhartmann3824
@frankhartmann3824 4 жыл бұрын
Hope I am not commenting too much but I want to help you see what went wrong in certain parts of your trip. At 17:59, right after passing the station, you encounter a green main signal (top green) with a green and yellow (bottom diagonal signal) telling you that the next signal could be red. This will trigger your PZB and require an acknowledgment within 4 seconds, which you do. Note that the 1000 Hz lamp lights up as you pass the signal. The problem here is that you do not slow down fast enough to below 85 kph and the PZB system detects this and forcibly stops you. There is a built-in braking curve that you must stay under to avoid this. So if you would have slowed down faster to get under 85 kph you would have been fine. You just coasted instead of braking so that by 18:24 you are still at 94 kph and you should be under 85.
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh gotcha! So it’s not the speed limit I’m looking at on the dial, but even the 85 icon means I need to be maximum of 85, not the dial speed
@frankhartmann3824
@frankhartmann3824 4 жыл бұрын
At 19:14, you exceeded the restrictive speed again. If you have a green signal ahead, which you did, release from PZB control and then and only then can you exceed 45 kph.
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
Just been reading up on it. So many signals and being on the look out on screen. Some you tubers can remove the HUD and use the speedometer on the dash. Some trains it’s too small and I can’t see it. Or I can’t remember the speed changes on say GWE so need the HUDs for that info
@frankhartmann3824
@frankhartmann3824 4 жыл бұрын
Also, the reason that you were eventually able to get the train going after your initial failure was that you released yourself from the flashing 70/85 PZB monitoring at 4:13 . Otherwise, you would have been stopped again at 45 km/h like before. Again, it is not about how fast you accelerate, it is about staying within an allowed speed range given the signaling aspect that you are under.
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
But yea as you said, once I figure it all out with signals etc, hopefully I can enjoy it more
@frankhartmann3824
@frankhartmann3824 4 жыл бұрын
@@MegaSim Indeed. And then with LZB system as well, you'll feel like you really are truly "simulating' German rail as best as the game will allow as opposed to just "playing a game" . And thanks for the vids. Please keep them coming as we countdown to TSW2.
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks looking forward to TSW2. Work is starting to get busier, so gonna need to ensure I have some extra time for videos. It might mean doing a few bundle recordings to then schedule in, instead of on the day or a couple of days beforehand, so they need to be generic in what I’m saying (no details on q&a response, new screenshots etc
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 3 жыл бұрын
Learnt this the hard way I had to ask the forums to why I got stopped by PZB and how to use the PZB mode correctly including AFB cruise Control. If you couldn't learn from this try asking the forums for help
@The_taurus
@The_taurus 4 жыл бұрын
A week before tsw2 launch will dovetail show new dlc for tsw2 bc idk if I get east costway and then they say we are working on e.g Northen line I would be sooo mad pls help
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
We won’t know what they’re working on till the roadmap is released. Also not sure when the next route/train will come out, 1 month, 3 months. Just can’t be sure. You do what you feel is best. I like east coastway, it’s a good route. But if you’re worried wait until the next sale?
@The_taurus
@The_taurus 4 жыл бұрын
@@MegaSim when is the road maps being released?
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
Supposedly it’s a week before launch 👍🏻
@cat7678
@cat7678 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid I don't turn pzb on(the train just stops whenever it feels like it)
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
Yea something about going upto a certain speed within a timeframe. Get to that speed too quickly, the emergency brakes are activated
@jamesstevenson9340
@jamesstevenson9340 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah your restricted to 45km/h and then you acknowledge it if you are operating a passenger train I believe the top speed you can go is 140km/h if you go on the manual it kind of goes into detail on how pzb works and what to do also whenever you pass a seed limit below 10km/h you must click acknowledge and slow down to below 85km/h or the respected speed limit or whenever you pass a yellow signal
@anthonypecoraro5472
@anthonypecoraro5472 4 жыл бұрын
@@MegaSim No. PZB is about slowing down in time, not speeding up in time.
@frankhartmann3824
@frankhartmann3824 4 жыл бұрын
At 20:08, you are out of restrictive monitoring (i.e. no 70/85 flashing) but you are just about to pass a signal with a restrictive speed ahead (green/yellow on top, yellow diagonal on the bottom). This will trigger the PZB when you pass it and you have 4 seconds to acknowledge it, which you didn't do, so PZB stopped you.
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
Did the PZB light up or something or that I have to acknowledge it? I noticed the SIFA light on the dash (not HUD) is very faint in the colour change, as you need to acknowledge it within 2.5 seconds before it sounds
@frankhartmann3824
@frankhartmann3824 4 жыл бұрын
@@MegaSim No, unfortunately, there is no light that activates when you pass a speed reduction sign (typically an orange triangle on the right side of the track) or a main signal with an upcoming restrictive speed (the yellow diagonal lights). You just have to get used to looking for them and knowing you have 4 seconds to react. It will be interesting to see if TSW2's new HUD will include something for that to make PZB easier for newer players.
@anthonypecoraro5472
@anthonypecoraro5472 4 жыл бұрын
@@MegaSim acknowledge immediately after the signal, then get down to 85 kmh asap.
@Thorpe
@Thorpe 3 жыл бұрын
You're only ever going to be on mode O for passenger services in this train. It doesn't change. You only change it on a switch yourself. The other modes are for freight services. Those will be slower speeds than O.
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 3 жыл бұрын
I figured that out eventually. On the quick guide, I should’ve looked down the list, not across
@Thorpe
@Thorpe 3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaSim Well, maybe you'll get the hang of it soon. Probably best to try it on Main Spessart Bahn.
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 3 жыл бұрын
Will do
@nomis1246
@nomis1246 4 жыл бұрын
08:20 that is a bug 😅😂
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
YAY!!
@habiburrahman-sj1mv
@habiburrahman-sj1mv 3 жыл бұрын
If your on ps4 just press circle do stop the beeping
@frankhartmann3824
@frankhartmann3824 4 жыл бұрын
PZB is never really about getting UP to a certain speed within a certain amount of time. I was surprised to hear you phrase it this way. All of the PZB restrictions are about getting DOWN to a restricted speed within a certain time or a certain distance because of a signal change or speed restriction. Watch PTGRail's German signaling guide here for a good high-level introduction that includes PZB amongst other signaling info: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hLhjesKI0K_bkXU.html. Also, the TrainGuy has some specific PZB videos here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sN5klMpet964oqs.html and also kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bsCCm7ijltHWpmg.html.
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
I thought looking at the quick guide I thought that when it said within an amount of seconds, it was the increase instead of decrease. I will get there soon
@littyboi633
@littyboi633 3 жыл бұрын
What is the best laptop to play this on
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 3 жыл бұрын
It’s best to checkout the specs on steam to get a good idea. I guess a laptop will need to be quite beefy. Or play on a console?
@trainkidsofficial4916
@trainkidsofficial4916 9 ай бұрын
2:58 and 18:23
@damianc.0.681
@damianc.0.681 3 жыл бұрын
Old hud is... weird
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 3 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, we are all getting used to the new one now
@marcusireland5696
@marcusireland5696 3 жыл бұрын
AWS is better ngl
@consha6121
@consha6121 3 жыл бұрын
Its kmh not mph you kept saying mph
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 3 жыл бұрын
When you’re used to mph for driving in the uk, it’s automatic to say it 🙂
@ashleyrobinson4217
@ashleyrobinson4217 4 жыл бұрын
No you can't 🤣🤣🤣
@MegaSim
@MegaSim 4 жыл бұрын
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