Trans kids are not new! We have been reading about them since the 1940s

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2 ай бұрын

George from the Famous Five was a trans boy back in the 1940s! He was persistent and insistent and showed gender euphoria when he was seen as a boy.
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@gleann_cuilinn
@gleann_cuilinn Ай бұрын
My grandmother would have been 9 or 10 when this book came out. She doesn't have a hard time understanding that I'm trans. She talks sometimes about how the world has become more accepting and how she thinks it's a good thing. Because there have always been some people who had these feelings. The language of this book is exactly like how I spoke of my gender troubles when I was a child. Thanks for sharing :)
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
If she is British, It is very likely that she was reading the famous five- this is book 7 I think.
@adenridesdragons1321
@adenridesdragons1321 Ай бұрын
Trans Day of Visibility! So glad to see examples of historic representation that seem to slip through the cracks, thank you!
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
It is really a piece of evidence that trans people are nothing new.
@joannasnee3871
@joannasnee3871 Ай бұрын
George was definitely gender non-conforming. She was a fictional character, so we can only look to the authors probable intention. The best way to do that it to imagine a conversation with Enid Blyton or to research whether there are any such interviews in existence. George was what was at the time known as a tomboy. I identified with her completely as a child. My name is Joanna, but I was always Joe. If I met kids who didn't know me, I used he/ him pronouns because I wanted them to think of me as a boy. My last wish/prayer before sleep at night was that I would be a physical boy when I woke up, and my first thought on waking was the awful realisation that I was not. These very few characters in fiction( try Swallows and Amazons)were like a lifeline to me and all the gender non-conforming girls who read them. It wasn't easy. My behaviour was mostly seen as 'bad behaviour','acting out' etc and I and others like me faced daily hostility from adults and children alike. Gender non- conforming boys got a much worse deal. Trans kids are trans. Trans kids are gender non-conforming, but not all gender non- conforming kids are trans. I'm a 63 year old gender non-conforming lesbian and happy to be a woman. Many straight cis women were also empowered by these characters who took them away from the strict gender roles of the times. Can we agree to share the joy of these characters rather than appropriate them to any particular cause?
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
@@joannasnee3871 I love your response! It sounds like you have had an interesting gender journey, I totally agree- both trans and gender non conforming kids had gender non-conforming characters to help them make sense of life. I think George was probably the most extreme of the time, I must look back into swallows and amazons- I loved them, especially that one of the Amazons changed their name because pirates had to be Ruth-less. It is interesting to look at older fiction and see that kids have always explored gender and that there have always been gender non-conforming kids all across the spectrum. Thank you for your comment!
@TyrelErickson-sw8dn
@TyrelErickson-sw8dn Ай бұрын
In a book recording life in the Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara villages along the Missouri River, one page had a plot map of everyone's gardens and farms near a village. One farm plot was owned by a man named " Wants to be a Woman".
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
Wow. Such simple visability!
@jasonkh4
@jasonkh4 Ай бұрын
Not, “Wants to be a Woman, but Isn’t” ?
@TyrelErickson-sw8dn
@TyrelErickson-sw8dn Ай бұрын
@@jasonkh4 translated to english
@TyrelErickson-sw8dn
@TyrelErickson-sw8dn Ай бұрын
@@jasonkh4 actually it totally could have been a woman's name, usually the females owned the houses and stuff in that culture. Haven't looked thru that book in years
@somebodycalledmerlin4786
@somebodycalledmerlin4786 Ай бұрын
OH My God, I LOVED this series so much as a kid (which was in no small part because of George)!! My mum had loved these stories when she was a kid and got my brother and me into them mostly in the form of audiobooks and it was such a defining part of my childhood, I am still shocked by how relatively little they are known today. Also I had no idea just how old some of them were, my mum was born 16 years after this book came out😂
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
Yes, Enid Blyton’s books lost popularity in the eighties and nineties because writers like Jaqueline Wilson etc were writing low effort high engagement books that reflected children’s lives of the time. But in the late seventies and early eighties I was devouring them from the library. The book in the video is one I bought from a jumble sale in 1986 (I wrote the date in it!).
@sunnyquinn3888
@sunnyquinn3888 Ай бұрын
Wow, I'm a trans (fem) boy whose childhood nickname was George! And I have a plushie puppy named Biscuit lol.
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
I wonder if that was a reference to George from the famous five?
@trollnystan
@trollnystan Ай бұрын
I used to read these books all the time as a kid. I even introduced them to a younger friend of mine who was about 8-9 who then insisted on being called George and wanted to cut her hair short. She turned out not to be trans but I think the books let both me and her play with our gender expressions a little in a time where that wasn't really The Thing (this was the early to mid 90s).
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
I think it is so important to have the opportunity for gender swap play, it is part of how we learn to understand gender. Millions of children read about George and role played as the famous five, many played with gender and a few saw their own gender expressed in George and felt seen.
@MsSteelphoenix
@MsSteelphoenix Ай бұрын
The wilful blindness of some people is awful. Thank you for this.
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
I am stunned that so many people have viewed my little video!
@davegar1816
@davegar1816 Ай бұрын
0:55 Love that 1940s sketchbook art style. Hopefully, this series won’t get banned at the library.
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
It was withdrawn from many libraries in the 1980s because of the racism. But no-one ever seems to complain about George.
@sadfaery
@sadfaery Ай бұрын
Very cool! Thank you for teaching me something new for TDOV!
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@janmeyer3129
@janmeyer3129 Ай бұрын
I always wanted to be George from the Famous Five - got to DO so many things
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
Oh yes, I always felt so sad for poor Anne who was never allowed to do anything except make sandwiches.
@dermottmcsorley8641
@dermottmcsorley8641 Ай бұрын
You might want to read the second Oz book.
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
Ooh! Thank you, I had forgotten that. I must revisit the oz stories!
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
The marvellous land of oz may have fallen into my online shopping cart… I vaguely remember a character who magically changes gender, but I will need to read it again.
@CraftyVegan
@CraftyVegan Ай бұрын
@@youareherediversity7321 there is a rather blatant reference of Ozma where she’s represented as “back when she was a boy” and it was very much a trans fem coded thing where she is described as looking like a boy but really being a girl deep down. It’s a very surprising little bit of representation
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
@@CraftyVegan i am excited to look at this again as an adult!
@laraeverdeen3544
@laraeverdeen3544 Ай бұрын
I recently finished re-reading the famous five series (it was one of my favourites as a child) and I never believed that George was trans. She was a tomboy, plain and simple. I was a tomboy like her at that age but I was never trans. I think Blyton was trying to represent the social struggle and injustice of being a girl in the 1940’s, and the expectation of conforming to your gender role. I think George hated that expectation and she yearned for the same freedoms as boys did her in her era, hence she was a tomboy. Also, the whole trans topic was taboo back in the 40’s, so I’m certain that Blyton would never of written a trans character in a children’s series that is now known for its sexism, racism and classism.
@sunnyquinn3888
@sunnyquinn3888 Ай бұрын
One reason why tomboys have always been more accepted in society than femboys is misogyny. People could readily understand a girl wanting to be a boy because deep down everyone knew that females were subjected to worse treatment than males on almost every level. It's like how everyone can understand a poor person wanting to be rich.
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
Interesting view, but I think many trans boys would see their experience reflected in George. I doubt whether Blyton framed it like that in her mind- but I think George reads as very determined that they are as much of a boy as society allowed.
@dustycookies143
@dustycookies143 Ай бұрын
Idk I feel like this is misleading, when I think of a trans person, I think of pronouns and stuff. When I was a kid I wished I was a boy, and I knew girls who wished they were boys, and would pretend they were sometimes. That, in my mind, never had anything to do with trans people. I had tomboy friends and I’m sure I also knew boys who would dress like girls, that was just life. From my conservative / transphobe friends, this is completely different. What they usually have a problem with is pronouns and accepting a reality that they do not want to take part in. This is where the issue lies.
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
Interesting comment, Transphobes also have a problem with using a gender switched name. In the books, George never directly asks for male pronouns, but every time someone assumes they are a boy it is commented on how much it delights them.
@julieporter7805
@julieporter7805 Ай бұрын
Ozma too.
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
I need to look back at Ozma- I don’t remember
@LURLINE_
@LURLINE_ Ай бұрын
transphobes when the entire history of thailand exists 🤯
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
Lol
@davidrodgersNJ
@davidrodgersNJ Ай бұрын
Hormone "therapy" did not exist in 1940, nor did surgical penis or breast removal.
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
True, the first phaloplasty was in 1950, one year after this book was published. The first male to female surgeries were in 1930. Unfortunately, a wealth of research into transsexuals and medical care was lost when Herschfeld’s library was burned by the Nazis in 1933.
@davidrodgersNJ
@davidrodgersNJ Ай бұрын
OK, so what do you mean by "trans kids" in the 1940's? Perhaps you mean boys who'd like to be girls or vice versa?
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
@@davidrodgersNJ both. Though being trans is about more than ‘wanting to be’.
@davidrodgersNJ
@davidrodgersNJ Ай бұрын
@@youareherediversity7321 Well, I think the current controversy over "trans kids" is (at least mainly) about people being given hormones and surguries while they are below the age of legal capacity. In that sense, I don't think "trans kids" goes back to the 1940's.
@jasonkh4
@jasonkh4 Ай бұрын
“Trans representation in children’s books” Literally the first page: “The characters in this book are entirely imaginary and have no relation to any living person.” 💀
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
Representation is about having fictional characters who have similar life experiences to you. It is not about them being factual it is about them reflecting real life and showing real experiences.
@jasonkh4
@jasonkh4 Ай бұрын
@@youareherediversity7321 are you suggesting that “facts” and “real life” are not mutually exclusive?
@chariot5660
@chariot5660 Ай бұрын
@@jasonkh4 you're being incredibly dense. That disclaimer is that the characters aren't supposed to be any specific person, not that they aren't realistic portrayals of types of people.
@jasonkh4
@jasonkh4 Ай бұрын
@@chariot5660 no, incredibly dense would be for one to take their cues on how to conduct themselves from entirely imaginary, (or FICTIONAL) characters. Literally the reason why Catcher in the Rye was banned for twenty years, and why some regard it as a “red flag” book.
@chariot5660
@chariot5660 Ай бұрын
@jasonkh4 so characters in books are all supposed to be entirely alien? Just completely fictional beings who don't think and act like people?? I was wrong, in addition to being dense you're an asshat
@harley5.7bviews5secondsago6
@harley5.7bviews5secondsago6 Ай бұрын
This is awesome, honestly
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Ай бұрын
Thank you
@harley5.7bviews5secondsago6
@harley5.7bviews5secondsago6 Ай бұрын
@@youareherediversity7321 of course! :D
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