hey thanks! glad it helped. I've got like 15 tapes to go through.

Good tip thanks!

now im confused- which 2 does this replace? thanks :)

Thanks for sharing!

Hi - which FW800 to FW400 did you buy, can you share a link? I bought the one in the link in the video but theElego adapter doesn't fit the FW cable or the TB2. Thanks

You're welcome!

Ya works great. If you can avoid any adapters in the middle that’s awesome! Also works with iMovie.

@@landonbaileytech How do you transfer the mini dv to a Lenovo PC?

Thanks for watching!

ya the real time capturing is so time consuming! I think I have 10+ tapes to go, 60 mins each

Glad it helped

Glad it was helpful!

so many little pieces that can break though! :)

haven't tried that format, let me know how it goes

it's only gonna cost 100 bucks

nice!

I've only tried with my scenario

Glad it was helpful!

Glad it was helpful!

oh great! Hope it works out. cheers!

@@landonbaileytech Yay! It really works. I only needed two of the cables as I already had the FireWire. So I bought the Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter and the Elago Fireware 400 to 800 adapter. I used to use Pinnacle Studio on Windows PCs. Now I need to get to know iVideo. Thank you so much for your valuable information.

this isn't a PC how-to, so I can't say any of this will work.

You are welcome!

My pleasure!

hey thanks! can't guarantee every camera will work but this one did

@@landonbaileytech I found this new dual cord that saves two cords in the daisy chain: its Firewire 800 and 4 pin: www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-FireWire-Hi-speed-F019-006/dp/B000AAZQM2?th=1 From there the FW800 into the Apple FW800 - Thunderbolt adapter: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SQ2CJUS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 lmk!

@@landonbaileytech and this page for cables: www.samys.com/c/Firewire-Cables/3/449.html

I can't say for sure, I haven't tried

I’ve ordered the cables and will give it a go and confirm back

Let me know if it works out. I've only tried on this setup

I need to try that on my M1 stuff.

Good question

@@landonbaileytech Thanks, but what's the answer?! 😃

I can't recall 5 years ago why I did that

I haven't tried with a PC

sorry I don't know

I don't have one to test, but it looks like no if it's not working

I have no idea. I would have tested one first to see if it was working ok

that would be helpful for sure

oh hey, I only briefly tried with iMovie. I've done the rest with Final Cut, so I don't have any advice

cheers! ya not sure if anything can be done about clips

I don't know if it would work on any Ipad. I've only tested this particular config. cheers

cheers

from what I recall, in my case the camera has a FW 400 connection, and the Firewire Cable I owned already was the 800 interface. I just needed the adapter to connect to the camera. I'm sure there's other ways to do this, this was just the way I went. :)

hey that's a fair question. I can't say for sure if that will work or not. The camera I used in my demo was purchased used on Ebay, because my original camera was broken.

I plan to test this on M1 mac devices soon

I can't confirm that

DV should be the right connection. I can’t guarantee though, I just know it worked with my exact setup :)

hey there! does the Elura 100 have different output modes? First thing I would be looking at is all the Settings. I'm not familiar with the camera

good question, I'm not sure if it offers that. I'll have to go back and check . (took a look, and there is no option to choose a format for import)

I can't tell you if that will work or not. I can only confirm my setup

ya it's a wonky setup for sure

@@landonbaileytech Does it lose quality when its transferred? Like when you gotta compress it?

I don't believe so

Also do you have to save to your computer when importing or can you save the file directly to an external hard drive while it's importing?

Sorry, no I’ve only used FCPX

Most of my storage is external so that should be fine. I believe that may have been what I was doing. I’ll have to go check again

ya it's possible the USB doesn't support enough bandwidth for video transfer. I'm guessing it's old USB 1.1 stuff. Firewire allowed much more data to be sent for audio/video

ah that sucks. Is your displayport the same as I'm using? (Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter) that's the first thing that comes to mind. my videos files get broken up to the length of the recorded clip, definitely not 1 second long. I recorded all my tapes on an old Canon camcorder, so I don't think the source camera matters. Also I'm running the latest MacOs and FCPX and IMovie and it's still working fine.

Same thing here. Tried 2 different cameras, several diff cables, and connectors, the latest FCPX, iMovie. The only thing that worked was recording straight to QuickTime/File/New Movie. But, I could not record audio from the camera to QT. So, I had to run the headphone line out of the camera into an I/O audio box (I used a Scarlet 2i2) into the computer, select line-in as the audio input then hit play on camera and record on Quicktime/new movie and it would record until there was a timecode break on the tape which would stop the QuickTime recording but, the tape would keep playing. So if I did not sit and watch for the timecode breaks I would have to see where the recording ended and rewind the tape past that point and start the process again. I never finished importing the 45-50 tapes I have it was a total P.I.T.A.

I'm not really sure about the codec being used with Final Cut Pro.

hey there! I really can’t say. I’ve only got it working with my exact config.

Sorry, I can't comment on every camera. I can only show that my setup works.

sorry to hear that. any luck?

that's tough to troubleshoot remotely. Do you have the exact same hardware and setup?

I'm not sure

Im not sure

I haven't tried on a Windows system

Thanks 😅

Im not sure about the cable you mention, but yes S-Video and RCA would have a lower quality that straight digital.

​@@landonbaileytechLet me rephrase my original comment. I have a Windows PC that, predictably, doesn't have a FireWire input, but I don't want to have to go through all the trouble of buying an extreme myriad of adapters that I'll only ever need for one camera, so, to lessen the amount I have to spend, I was wondering if simple FireWire to USB cables existed, or if there were any simpler methods of working around not having a straight FireWire connection. I have found a couple of cables that claim to be FireWire to USB, but say they only work for certain cameras. I have also found FireWire to USB adapters, but didn't know if they have any viability. I'm just hoping I'm not sitting on a brick of a camera because I can't connect it to my PC properly to get the best quality and both audio channels (I tried plugging in the right channel and it emitted a buzz even though the microphone on board is stereo). In any case, I hope this clarifies what I was trying to say a little bit more.

Hey there! I haven’t had any audio issues myself. Did you try importing in iMovie as well?

Lando27Tech Thanks for your prompt reply. I am found a solution by changing the sampling rate to 16bit works fine. However, I will try iMovie as well. Thanks so much man.

hey there, I just tested with iMovie and it worked of for me. I don't know what would cause the issue for that error. sorry! Make sure it’s set to VCR mode and try an Import. Sometimes that will start whatever tape you have loaded

Violet Biggs Productions - I’ll give that a try!

Same thing is happening to me. I’m importing but for me, I’m getting numerous choppy bits of the same video. Super frustrating. I’m using FCPX and have a Canon Elura100. ...and then it gets stuck on “Processing”. I’m using a brand new this year MacBook Pro.

I used Final Cut Pro X, but you can also use iMovie

It’s Final Cut Pro X on MacOS

@@landonbaileytech Many thanks for your quick reply.

@@landonbaileytech Something for free?!

I’ve seen that QuickTime on Mac works pretty well. Just a small issue with audio from time to time.

I have not tried on Windows. this is for Apple only

@@landonbaileytech Thanks for the reply! I found a video on here of someone successfully doing it on windows, so I'm gonna try that out and see.

what kind of port is coming out of the laptop, Thunderbolt 2,3?

@@landonbaileytech Thunderbolt 3

ok so that should be the same setup I have in the video. my mac mini is Thunderbolt 3. expect you'll need something for PC as opposed to Mac. I'm not sure if the Mac cables are compatible

Did you try iMovie?

I have the same exact issue. I have a Canon GL2 and a JVC GR-D73U, and 6 different firewire to 400, 800, and a Thunderbolt Display with Firewire 800 port, and even the Firewire-to-Thunderbolt adaptor. NOTHING is working. I am on a 2013 iMac with Mojave. I also have many older Macs, and none can see these. my 6 cables and all these adapters can't be broken. Please, any help would be grateful! Are there certain settings I am supposed to select in macOS setting, under network to get the firewire port to read correctly? on my Canon, I see the DV IN. I have FinalCut Pro and Quicktime, I don't see my camera in either. Help please!

Violet Biggs Productions - I don’t see your reply. What is your suggestion, I’m excited to give it a try! Thanks again!

oh hey sorry to hear that. this video is a couple years old so it's possible the links are outdated and have been changed (not on my end). I'll take a look

elago FireWire 400 to 800 Adapter (White) is the one I have and it works fine. So I'm not sure

I am using Final Cut Pro

@@landonbaileytech I can't get FCP to recognize my DV camera

I can't say. I've never tested it

I’ve only tested with Thunderbolt

@@landonbaileytech I ordered what I think I need to accomplish this I will let you know when it works

??

do it!

I did one transfer already into iMovie but it keeps dropping frames and skipping.

it was probabably Final Cut Pro

that’s tough to troubleshoot remotely. are you using Final Cut Pro X?

@@landonbaileytech Thank you very much for getting back to me. Yes FCX, just bought the new one. It's strange because I can control the camera from the import, and hear it, i see the image on the camera lcd but it doesn't show up on the import window. just suond.

ah that sucks. The first thing I would try is the usual full system reboot. Unplug all the cables. Then try again from there. Sometimes it's something simple like that! Best of luck, sounds like you almost got it. Frustrating for sure!

my original camera was a Canon Elura. It no longer works for I found this used Sony camera on EBay for around $70. You’ll need a camera

never thought of trying that, because in my case the camera is really old and the quality is not something I’d want to use. so I can’t say if that will work or not :)

@@landonbaileytech I did the test. Took only three cables and the camera was immediately identified and worked perfectly! I can record directly from the HD camera into the recording tool of choice. The only concern is the number of devices connected to the Thunderbolt 3 busses. The more devices on each bus, the greater the chance of data dropping. For example, the MacBook Pro (2019) has two TB3 busses, one on each side. So, if you are driving two 4K HD displays, one on each bus (as recommended by Apple), inputting an HD signal on the same bus could cause either screen jitter or video frames being dropped from your recording. A better choice, if you want to use an older camera that works just fine like mine does, is to output the video directly into a device like the MCE QuickStream which will capture your video directly to an HD drive without loss. Then transfer the video from the MCE to the computer at warp speed. Much better than using tapes... but you knew that! Anyway, thus far I have NOT experienced either data loss or video jitter just yet, but this is what I've been warned about. Thanks again for a great and simple tutorial. Very useful. And, if I'm being honest, I must say that I was thinking that "just because you can string a bunch of cables together to 'connect' and old camera to a TB3 port, doesn't mean it'll be recognized or transfer data." In this case, I was glad to be wrong.

very cool thanks for sharing the results!

ah that sucks. I can’t say what would cause that. OBS might be worth a shot for sure. probably a bit of work to configure, but let me know how it goes

Lando27Tech OBS won’t capture any of the audio. From further research online macs have a problem if there’s any kind of gap between clips. No one seems to know why the first 20 seconds of a clip gets chopped up

there's a firewire port on the right front of the camera. under a hidden panel

@@landonbaileytech Darn. I don't think my camera has that :/. Bummer. It's a sony viewcam

hey there! I haven't tried. I also don't have a PC with Thunderbolt 3

what kind of MacBook Pro is it? I've only tested on the Intel Macmini shown in the video.

I don’t believe so. That’s why I bought this camera for as cheap as possible on EBay. It’s a player, and I don’t use it as a camera

hey there! I just tested and it works with iMovie. I use Final Cut Pro X, can't speak for Premiere Pro

@@landonbaileytech oh cool thanks, also do u have any idea if u can get a fisheye lens for the sony TRV18 ?

@solly mercer no problem! I don't know, I bought it used solely to have a it as a transfer unit for my old tapes

can you try it in iMovie? I've never used Premiere Pro

@@landonbaileytech Hi, thanks for your very swift response! I've tried it on iMovie, Quicktime and PP. Nothing can see my camera. I have new cables. I'm now updating to Big Sur. (2019 MacBook Pro right now). I do have an old mac or pc a cupboard so maybe time to dig that out. But weird how it just doesn't see the camera. Have tried on my old MacBook Pro 2013 and offline there too.

is your camera similar to mine? I know I had to turn it to playback mode so the Mac would see the camera.

@@landonbaileytech I have Canon XM1 PAL - tried all playback modes - on/off etc. So frustrating as so close to resolving this issue I feel.

ya I’m an NTSC camera, but hopefully that’s not an issue. Good luck, I don’t think there’s any other tips I can offer. tech/computer stuff can be frustrating for sure, but then rewarding once you figure it out.

ah perfect! thanks for sharing

I can't say for sure, this example was with Apple hardware

what do you mean?

sounds about right

That would be a challenge that would be tough to avoid. Did it make you happy?

not that I know of. That would be handy though. realtime tape conversion is so time consuming.

I think there was something like high speed dubbing, but the exact feature and which devices employed it escapes me now

:)

did it work?

ah k! let me know how that goes

I tried both recently. I found that the FireWire connection gave better picture quality than an SVH-S connector. That makes sense, because it avoids an unnecessary digital to analogue and then analogue back to digital conversion.