Trapping Pep and Klopp in Non-League

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Жыл бұрын

Welcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2023 experiment video I team up with ‪@DoctorBenjyFM‬ to trap Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp in Non-League Football at Wrexham and Notts County. Which one of these world class managers will do best and go from non league to legend?
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@mansoormurad5400 Жыл бұрын

Given City and Liverpool won 27/40 trophies while being managerless, that speaks volumes for how the match engine views the manager's position...

@kibakurosaki Жыл бұрын

Now you reverse it, put them both in the other team and repeat the experiment

@TomFM Жыл бұрын

Hahaha, I need you on my ideas team!

@itsTiagoSilva Жыл бұрын

Hire him, Tom

@neilm838 Жыл бұрын

Then it would be an experiment.

@kibakurosaki Жыл бұрын

@@TomFM that'd be an honour

@udincaux6248 Жыл бұрын

Now that would be fun 👍

@llSuperSnivyll Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile, in the fifth season in my save, Wrexham is completely stuck in the Conference National (even missing out on the Playoffs twice, one of them in the first season) while Notts County is currently second, 11 points behind my team in League Two. 16:40 Look at South Shields reaching League One when it isn't even in a playable league at first.

@MajinPorunga Жыл бұрын

Inaccurate experiment. Huge variables in the teams you picked. You should simulate them at the same club and see who does better and maybe go through the leagues to see how they do with a decade in each at the same teams.

@WERTYUIO821 Жыл бұрын

Great experiment once again! Perhaps try it again by trapping an elite manager in every non League team and sim 50 years into the future? I haven't tried it yet in FM23(just brought it) but in past FMs people didn't die(at least footballers didn't.). So perhaps we could see if having elite managers would help the Vanarama National League level teams reach the Championship and League 1 or perhaps one reach the Premier League. Perhaps to add to that, get a 1 to everything manager to every Premier League team. If you try it. Make sure to check the stadiums if they have

@mattshark7665 Жыл бұрын

I think Pep himself has said he wouldn’t do well at low level teams. I think Klopp is far better suited to managing a poorer team.

@jamesh1811 Жыл бұрын

Be great to see more videos with you and Ben!

@Journey22405 Жыл бұрын

As a former Green Bank player, im kinda shocked they got mentioned, i say player i was player for under 9s and i was moved from striker to midfielder cause i was too lazy lmao

@BriswallYT Жыл бұрын

16:51 - Who else noticed South Shields at the bottom of League One?

@callumjb7668 Жыл бұрын

I love these cool videos!

@johnshores4745 Жыл бұрын

could you do a reverse to see if it was because wrexham are a bigger club

@notemucp Жыл бұрын

Wrexham are small

@johnshores4745 Жыл бұрын

@@notemucp yes but bigger than county

@louiskent1724 Жыл бұрын

@@johnshores4745 notts county are bigger than wrexham in every metric

@notemucp Жыл бұрын

@@johnshores4745 ummm… nope?

@shaneg9081 Жыл бұрын

New to your channel. Kinda wonder what it would be like if these managers were really trapped at that level, with them leaving a team when it gets promoted. Are they so talented as managers they become absolute king makers for every team they touch at that level?

@gringote Жыл бұрын

hi @TomFM. i hope you doing well.. i have a issue, i didnt notice that in installed on pc the console version of fm23, and i want to transfer my save in the normal game to continue. but i can't find anywhere some advising how to make it posible. on web they say it is posible, but no one said how. many thanks, respect and keep it up.

@BrockMak Жыл бұрын

Ah, my first matter in Newcastle was using this screen to replace the assistant manager back to Eddie Howe, despite our stylistic clash.

@GeoFMFC Жыл бұрын

Great video just think putting one on wrexham was unfair. They do great on fm without any big manager.

@SamButler22 Жыл бұрын

Bolton, Preston, Wigan, and Wrexham all in a playoffs together; kinda my nightmare

@jamesjonson2617 Жыл бұрын

I haven't played this game since FM 2010 can you do this in normal career mode or do you need the in game editor to do experiments?

@maxiking8816 Жыл бұрын

I like that video format

@neckz Жыл бұрын

Hi Tom, how did you trapped them into this club? i tryd out myself but the "future transfer" trick (like you do for players to trap them) didnt work here? Could you give me an info?

@TheJoshayy Жыл бұрын

Simulate a season then add some world class managers to the teams promoted from the non-playable leagues

@davidfox4922 Жыл бұрын

There wasn't enough chat about Sam Clucas

@lilwild2412 Жыл бұрын

I'm new in this channel but u can put 2 non league managers in city and liverpool too!

@ltpRB Жыл бұрын

16:53 wow south shields in league one

@cainedbutable Жыл бұрын

I've got Terrence Vancooten as a right back on my Stevenage file 😂

@Har_old Жыл бұрын

Nice to see Kofi Balmer, went to the same school as me

@evilwolfuk Жыл бұрын

I am new to this but please tell me how to lock the managers into the clubs.

@minstreet_studio6265 Жыл бұрын

Can you try to make them work together??? like 1 as a manager and 1 as an assistant

@stonecold6521 Жыл бұрын

Never knew you're from Lincoln. I've lived here for years now. Born in Scunny.

@dbc1702 Жыл бұрын

Some comments have alluded to this, But what would have been better is Trapping Klopp at say Wrexham and simulate for 10 years, then go back and trap Pep at Wrexham as well and simulate him also for 10 years and then check the data and compare both under the same control settings. or as the comment below states from Kiba K, switch them around and run it again for comparison.

@yorkiebarowen Жыл бұрын

3:24 well this has aged well hasn't it

@angelarango1329 Жыл бұрын

Aunque no entienda por ser latinoamericano me gusta mucho tus dinámicas aunque no entiendo XD sigue así vas a llegar muy lejos Bro😃 Like y ya me suscribí

@safcjcp Жыл бұрын

Favourite thing was Sunderland promotion

@sebiieex Жыл бұрын

that dead pool money coming in clutch

@RetroProg 11 ай бұрын

Wrexham record number of wins...prophetic

@JaquiskiTarttNFL Жыл бұрын

Lollujo needs to fix Sheff Wed lol!

@BantamsOnline Жыл бұрын

Did Bradford City get new owners a few seasons in to this?

@cheesestring2032 Жыл бұрын

Try swapping national league manager to pl teams and 4 top chship managers and 20 pl managers to the 24 national league teams

@kjubi2259 Жыл бұрын

you know what TomFm i never coment video but you know what i want see suprs in vanarama national league north or sout whit all players and everithing but i want see how this shi.... club do in non league :D and of course as i m liverpool fan trap liverpool too whit only youth team fir liverpool and i think liverpool still be promoted

@helmutliess698 Жыл бұрын

Late comment. Maybe do both scenarios. Klopp with wrexham and then guardiola with wrexham

@RedK11 Жыл бұрын

As a Stoke fan, the Sam Clucas focus is pretty aggravating

@admthrawnuru Жыл бұрын

Now lock a terrible manager into a team that's super dominant like PSG (and load some lower leagues) and see how far it drops.

@reecewilkins637 Жыл бұрын

Big up Bromley keeping up with both teams

@TheRealKingLeopoldII Жыл бұрын

So both Notts County and Liverpool were eventually better off without Klopp lol

@connorjones9314 Жыл бұрын

Ryan Reynolds dream signing of pep

@tightfistedgoat5217 Жыл бұрын

Should swap all the prem managers with national league teams.see what happens 👀

@macsidia Жыл бұрын

And Goldbridge at Solihull Moors would stop them both!

@mrchrischamp1 Жыл бұрын

This hurts as a Wednesday fan

@cruiseylee Жыл бұрын

Why not make it fair and change the teams over that they start at?

@MatiasND Жыл бұрын

Can we just mention Sheffield Wednesday downfall?

@Chefarchiepope 4 ай бұрын

Pop and klepp

@T.E.S.S. Жыл бұрын

👀

@leightonsharpe2660 Жыл бұрын

Same clubs, same managers, switch and make a new video. Pleaseeeeeee

@richardgoldins4790 Жыл бұрын

So this a pc mod

@PaddyMcMe Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's weird between us Liverpool and City fans, there is real and genuine respect and admiration for each other's managers. Pep is the best manager of the past decade and I think you can argue that Klopp is 2nd, though Simeone, Conte, Mourinho & Zidane can all have an argument put forth for them being 2nd. People do over praise Klopp though. He DOES get the most out of his players, but the talent HAS to be there in the first place. People talk about our Front 3 but for Liverpool to win Trophies the defensive spine of our time the 'Defensive 3' of Allisson, Van Dijk & Fabinho is arguably the best in the world and without it we go from a Top 4 team in the world to a top 4 team in England. It's a MASSIVE drop off without them and our INSANE high line is only possible because of how good they are.

@gwood3070 Жыл бұрын

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@angelfire9622 Жыл бұрын

not an original concept ? omega luke's concept

@andreaspedersen2978 Жыл бұрын

Who cares

@MonTheWell1886 Жыл бұрын

This didn't just start being a thing 6 days ago lad

@coyootje Жыл бұрын

I just see it as an increase of the sample size of this experiment :) Every save is different so it's interesting to see how they vary.

@TomFM Жыл бұрын

Yeah tbf, I did it last year too so not that original

@Norhod Жыл бұрын

Tom FM did it already, the other guy is the one who stole the idea. Not that it matters that much though.

@mirandevrim387 Жыл бұрын

The most seuccesfull trainer in the Game Fc Porto trainer Sergei Conceiçao.İf one of the top premier league team sign him,that team dominate the league for years . Unai Emery is Alsa equally good.Both are classic 4+4+2 and both direct football.