The pdga has to allow companies to be more innovative. They are restricting technology advancement to prevent companies from making a great product, and taking market share from the big brands. We want dimples, textured tops, ect..
@vJackaRoo10 ай бұрын
Innova owns the pdga.
@chadbizeau599710 ай бұрын
@@vJackaRoodo they though? They lost the LVC as the opener next year lol....
@Tipsicc10 ай бұрын
I don’t think the dimples make it fly further but it gives you a good consistent grip on it. So you never have to worry about your grip slipping or gripping it wrong. This could also make your throws more consistent
@matthewboals159010 ай бұрын
I remember throwing them. Biggest issue was getting the dimples full of mud
@nickjpowers10 ай бұрын
Your local Ching Discs lover here. Thank you so much Jesse for showing these off. Make sure to check out their best and even more unique disc... the ORACLE!!!
@breinerinc10 ай бұрын
CHING production will resume in 2024.
@timquakenbush941610 ай бұрын
where did we get this information... @@breinerinc
@breinerinc10 ай бұрын
Source: I have the molds. Running great in modern day plastics. Will re-release in early 2024.@@timquakenbush9416
@FYUZNStudio9 ай бұрын
Breiner is the new Authority on CHING. @@timquakenbush9416
@FYUZNStudio9 ай бұрын
A favorable summary 😎 ..I'd note that Juju, Precision, and Velocity were created to market as a 3-pack when I split from Innova production. I may have missed calling Velocity a 'Fairway Driver' at the time. But (correct me if I'm wrong).. I think I was the first to market and standardize the four categories of { Putt & Approach | Midrange | Fairway Driver | Distance Driver } in DGWN with Tank, Stinger, Sniper, and Bomb respectively.
@jordanmiller957610 ай бұрын
I have 3 ching supreme juju's. They are THE straightest flying discs I have ever thrown in my life. Easily my favorite disc golf disc ❤
@IceBergTV10 ай бұрын
Im so jealous you get sent so many weird discs. Weird stuff wednesday is my favorite video series! I did a ching juju video ages ago. Its actually a good disc
@wooky546110 ай бұрын
You get some good ones for wed
@connorbatts559810 ай бұрын
prickly pines in elizabeth CO... can confirm... very hard course!
@snowe..10 ай бұрын
I wondered if that was it. I played in the winter so it looked a lot different at the time.
@taslsealley10 ай бұрын
I have all of these discs and they are some of my favorites. The one thing I never see anyone talk about is the diagram on the JuJu that is the +3 to -3, I always thought that if the line your thumb makes matches with any of the lines in that diagram that is going to affect the fade of the disc, like going from stable (+3) to under stable (-3). If the JuJu was still in production, I would own too many. By far my favorite upshot and putter disc ever.
@breinerinc10 ай бұрын
CHING production will resume in 2024. Will also be releasing some 'from the vault' original run(s) stock.
@alexanderjagell29639 ай бұрын
where is this info?
@breinerinc9 ай бұрын
@@alexanderjagell2963 More info will be available in JAN. Just finished testing modern plastics in the molds. Will start running discs in late DEC. I have a limited amount of original run discs... that will be released as part of the relaunch promotion. Website won't go live until JAN.
@alexanderjagell29639 ай бұрын
@@breinerinc Awsome!!
@Preppyskin087 ай бұрын
Don't be playing with my emotions. I'm going to check right now.
@jrodeck10 ай бұрын
What is the name of this course? I was in denver over the weekend and played a course with not a lot of trees
@calebschroeder28887 ай бұрын
PricklyPines. It is in the town of Elizabeth
@nyqpi3310 ай бұрын
I always pay attention when i hear anyone mention ching discs. I found a ching sniper mid range along time ago and it was my strait go to when i was new. It turned into a great turn over mid and now is retired with my other old cant find anymore collection.
@brannnnnnn10 ай бұрын
first, I remember ching. Also, when the trash panda rufus launching?
@tb188610 ай бұрын
I had a Genesis driver with the wavy grip points. Felt so nice in hand, but it's in the water at Interlocken. I still have my Legacy mid with an Ace on it.
@mikes168610 ай бұрын
I have a portable ching basket. Really compact and fits into the nylon bag to carry easily. Also have a ching bomb driver and ching sniper mid range disc. Some of my favorites when i first started playing disc.
@Geenimetsuri25 күн бұрын
Portable baskets are still called Chings here. Also, Scott Stokely nowadays has the license to produce the discs...and they're not anymore made in China. It's just the mold :-D
@tanner160210 ай бұрын
I think more ppl have heard of these than you thought. I used to bag a driver way back when. It got to be kind of a utility disc and then eventually got pushed out of the bag. Still have a few laying around somewhere. It was a good disc to hand a beginner to explain the difference in backhand/forehand and all that jazz.
@spene9310 ай бұрын
In the future, maybe tell your audience what course you're at, instead of just "one of the hardest courses in the greater denver area"
@snowe..10 ай бұрын
it's prickly pines in elizabeth co
@bakerby10 ай бұрын
I love weird and zany disc designs. I’m always down to see how they fly. That being said, I was going through an online factory story a few weeks back and found a Groove in clear champion plastic. I showed it to a friend for fun and giggles. Apparently I’m the proud new owner of a u-dye Groove. Argh.
@sireroyal906310 ай бұрын
I don't feel like the asymmetrical design of the dimples was analyzed enough. I'm not saying there is much to be discovered there either. But I would like to see a series of throws from same disc with different clock position for grip
@jonathanlatimer995710 ай бұрын
I used to have a ching legacy, it was the best forehand mid range. I miss it dearly. It was super old too, probably early 2000-2010
@breinerinc10 ай бұрын
CHING production will resume in 2024.
@johnweber3578Ай бұрын
I found one at my local course about 10 years ago and it was the driver. Idk if it was because it was beat in or super soft but it was under stable but I kept it in my bag for a water disc. I think that this was a great idea for beginners to learn how to grip and where to grip the disc. Overall it was a gimmick but i'm sure that they sold at the beginning and did okay. I have never seen another one or heard anything since I lost it in a creek so it was cool seeing this video reminding me of some good times in my past.
@robortgaming4789 ай бұрын
I love my juju ching its my C2-3 putter!!! Been in my bag for over 15 years!
@RJ269110 ай бұрын
Prickly is a fav of mine in town. All those north Denver folk dont get down to it enough.
@joeloreilly295310 ай бұрын
Loved the editing on the "double mando"!! This was very cool! Wish we could still buy them!
@jump910410 ай бұрын
I might mention that your success with these discs might also be due to the fact that since you're using discs you're not used to the mental opportunity to say "well, they didn't fly well and I didn't do well, but these are weird discs nobody uses so no pressure", that lack of pressure maybe can lead to a more casually and fundamentally solid game that you wouldn't usually play simply because of that phenomenon of having the pressure off of performing with discs that you SHOULD know how to throw. I know you said that the test wasn't very scientific. I do like the finger placement holes as a concept. The berg has something similar with its dome ridge for thumb placement and that is also nice.
@davidlegoff191310 ай бұрын
Great job throwing those discs. The mid was like a Roc, the first Driver was like a Teebird, and the last driver was like a Thunderbird. Very cool. You probably made everyone want these discs now. They seem to give great grip for consistency.
@FYUZNStudio9 ай бұрын
Been so long.. I thought I modeled Velocity off the Beast; McCormack called me out on that. I prolly studied his line for the Genesis nose/rim. Legal/moral rumors aside, IMO he was aggressive pushing PDGA approved rim width to the max, compared to Innova plodding along with strategic incremental increases to squeeze monetization through development. The Roc is 22cm ish.. I made all mine at 21.1 ish for consistency.
@eleven928610 ай бұрын
8:41 bruh you definitely farted. 😂😂
@tayloreddesigns685210 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the Holiday Disc Swap!
@Sobo27210 ай бұрын
As a collector of weird discs I definitely have a Ching (Velocity) in my pile. Recently had a chance at an Oracle which is even goofier, but one Ching is enough for me. The oracle is just 3 MASSIVE dimples. Like 2-3x the size of the ones on the drivers.
@mindlander10 ай бұрын
Those genuinely look like they fly amazing!
@user-wg3pd9kb3b10 ай бұрын
Ok, interesting. Question? Are you going to make one of your disc with this type of technology?
@jackcorbett699410 ай бұрын
Seconded. You should do this.
@HonduDan10 ай бұрын
I threw a Ching back in the early 2000s. I kinda remember the disc being alright...that being said, I also bagged a Wham-O driver that I absolutely loved.
@JasonLancaster6 ай бұрын
I putted with the ju ju for years. The main reason was the feel of my putting grip felt the same no matter what the temperature. Super hot or super cold. Loved those discs. The legacy was amazing for me once beat in. But they lacked durability. Honestly... I miss them.
@durtydan4209 ай бұрын
I had one of these in the past. Found it in a pond while looking for my disc
@DrPetersen1Ай бұрын
Stokely has just bought the rights to the Ching molds. He's got jujus on sale, and will have the other 5 accelerator discs up shortly.
@jcapicy10 ай бұрын
Is it possible the dimples force a better grip? As in thumb placement?
@Janiix8910 ай бұрын
I can imagine it giving you more thumb grip with less effort .. my grip sucks I would probably love this haha
@caseysmith54410 ай бұрын
Ching was the Innova made company and only the molds that were made by Ching with top and bottom a Ching innovation were totally Ching molds. My Dad used a Juju in the Supreme plastic (e-bay 2004--2005 for $35 USA) , a forerunner to the Champion only this Supreme floppy plastic. The discs for the company Innova and Chinese at the same time the first company were made from late 1990's not sure until 2002 right before we started. He has several other putters, driver a Medium Firm Wizard for driving only, a Rubber Puter too heavy a weight to float, another. The company in 2014 did a few runs of the distance drivers planning to get back into production but stopped, as between 2003 and 2014 the company did not make discs. Some older discs like this one was a Roc with the technology they used on the two later distance drivers.
@Sipu7922 күн бұрын
I have some of these discs, they are flippy AF and janky at best. "Accelerator contours", "Draft technology" ... marketing gimmicks if you ask me :)
@martyboyatt614210 ай бұрын
I still bag a Ching Tank (soft), best putt and approach ever. Also still bag a Ching JUJU
@FYUZNStudio9 ай бұрын
Tank was 'licensed' Innova mold. Juju was an Aero shaved down flat to reduce width to 21.1 and make it as slow as possible with flat side. Stan McDaniel test threw the first hand made prototype for me, and Dunipace confirmed the concept with production mini prototypes at USDGC longgg ago.
@JohnRider28 күн бұрын
Clearly Trash Panda has some molds to add!!😂😂
@Grovonator10 ай бұрын
kinda fun seeing all the online disc golf beginners discovering the discs we tried out like 12 years ago. its unlikely these discs make it in the bag for any serious disc golfer
@wickedpunch9 ай бұрын
I used to bag the JuJu until I couldn't find them any longer. Thanks for this!
@kobbz116110 ай бұрын
I'm not sure dimples performs better but I'm sure I could love and bag one of those discs, you definitely knew we'd want one after watching these you can't let us down please make an OS fairway! And a putter maybe :D
@seanu496310 ай бұрын
I have a velocity. But it's soo flippy I gave it to my kid. I do like the thumb spots though. It's a nice feature.
@slickmitch10 ай бұрын
Ching Tank was the first thumb trak as well and turned into the Rhyno. Actually, the Millennium tank, then the Rhyno.
@FYUZNStudio9 ай бұрын
I'm not aware of Houck marketing a Millennium Tank. Innova let me use the beadless version for CHING Tank and created a big bead on the Rhyno swapping mold parts.
@wiltzp121210 ай бұрын
Is it possible to buy those discs from somewhere? I dont care how they fly, but since holding a disc in my hand the first time I've always wondered why the hell they dont make those dimples...it would be SO MUCH better to hold on to a disc that way
@breinerinc10 ай бұрын
CHING production will resume in 2024.
@mattrandall783610 ай бұрын
Fun video. I remember the putter and mid but not the drivers.
@xxxsurshotxxx679310 ай бұрын
When i first started back in 08 I had some Ching discs. You're missing the best mid they made though. The Oracle!! I have 2 still to this day!
@girldaddan154310 ай бұрын
Too bad you couldn't get your hands on a Ching Oracle, could end up being your favorite discs. Soooooo comfortable and a very reliable disc
@xxxsurshotxxx679310 ай бұрын
I second this. I still have 2 of them!
@girldaddan15439 ай бұрын
@@xxxsurshotxxx6793 wanna sell one?
@trulsrohk910 ай бұрын
Ching dimples coming soon to a Trash Panda disc near you.
@Ben-wp4ft10 ай бұрын
Juju was my first putting putter 😃. Still have it! Don't use it anymore though.
@najssiness10 ай бұрын
i really like thumbtracks, so i can see myself liking those discs
@travynix10 ай бұрын
Love Trash Panda!
@johnnymartinez315210 ай бұрын
Whats the name of the course?
@fathomz10 ай бұрын
i left a clear gummy ching juju at a course around pandemic times when i first got back into disc golf. thing was likely almost 20yrs old. still miss it.
@breinerinc10 ай бұрын
CHING production will resume in 2024. Will also be releasing some 'from the vault' original run(s) stock.
@fathomz10 ай бұрын
well thats amazing@@breinerinc
@villekanninen626910 ай бұрын
I remember buying a 3-set of these from a building supply store for about 12 dollars. Tried them once on a business trip, thought they were awful, left them out on the course for someone to find.
@HenryBrewer110 ай бұрын
WHAT IS THAT BAG?! You cannot just casually tease that
@justinwilkie254010 ай бұрын
Lol I have had the distance driver in my bag since 2007
@CR0SSR0ADS10 ай бұрын
I started playing with Ching Discs like 10 years ago... Now they are collecting dust somewhere but they still keep confusing me...
@timquakenbush941610 ай бұрын
I use a Ching Genesis as a forehand driver...old man slow arm
@meister-t10 ай бұрын
WHY did you do that?! Now we all want to try those discs! lol
@FuckGoogle210 ай бұрын
It's nice he give some forerunners their due credits.
@breinerinc10 ай бұрын
CHING production will resume in 2024.
@cottonkeef563310 ай бұрын
Better put that red one in the bag! Let the history fly
@BryceRogers_10 ай бұрын
FYI your title says "Head" instead of "Heard" of... surprised nobody already mentioned it
@1andonlyMiro10 ай бұрын
I KNEW ABOUT THIS. Found one in base plastic and that midrange WAS fun. Until a SINGLE tree hit.
@jimmythegrounghog10 ай бұрын
The Juju was originally called the Mojo but Ching had to change the name because Mojo was used already. I have a Mojo never thrown it, used a soft Juju for a while for approach shots.
@Algaewarrior10 ай бұрын
I have the mojo putter. Lore has it that they had to change the name due to the Austin Powers copyright to mojo. Whether or not that is true I’m not sure of but I do enjoy putting with it. I didn’t know they made drivers as well. Very cool 😎
@JayWhitman8210 ай бұрын
Comming soon to the trash panda disc "excelator technology " 😂
@Thomas-bj9qg10 ай бұрын
What do you mean "never heard of"? It's my main putter. Juju for life!
@breinerinc10 ай бұрын
CHING production will resume in 2024. Will also be releasing some 'from the vault' original run(s) stock.
@mech0p10 ай бұрын
i used to throw their whole line along with an arrow and an epic and did suprisingly well with them,
@zachfarnsworth35110 ай бұрын
What course is this? one of the few i havent played on the front range
@snowe..10 ай бұрын
it's prickly pines in elizabeth co
@zachfarnsworth35110 ай бұрын
Thank you@@snowe..
@davidhill191110 ай бұрын
Great video! Maybe those dimples are something trash panda might incorporate on a few of their discs in the future? That is if that tech isn’t trademarked.
@FYUZNStudio9 ай бұрын
It would be on Patent, not Trademark.. but it's expired now anyway.
@reesesalen50339 ай бұрын
Has anyone made a contraption to throw discs repeatably each time? That way comparing discs is much more useful and trustworthy. Think like a baseball pitching machine or clay pigeon launcher etc.
@fishblade29 ай бұрын
Man I wish I could find a set of these.
@breinerinc9 ай бұрын
CHING will be back in early 2024.
@KN-xl6lw10 ай бұрын
I have a prototype Ching Juju that Mike Holgate sent out to testers via the PDGA forum. Very interesting concept and cool looking disc but IMO the dimples ruined the glide and made the disc understable. Maybe higher elevation was the missing link? You were certainly golfing those discs in an impressive manner. 😎
@scottrussell495310 ай бұрын
I actually had a Ching disc that I found at a thrift store. I now wish I hadn't given it away.
@StephenKattАй бұрын
Jesse with a J.E.S.E. Just Extremely Scientific Experiments.
@djbme8310 ай бұрын
A friend of mine putts with jujus and anytime someone sees it, they have to ask him what it is.
@toPGnikoms42010 ай бұрын
I found one a ching disc in my new yard 😂 they are crazy
@torvaga10 ай бұрын
Looks like a fun course
@Zkyrian110 ай бұрын
The Juju was my first putter
@williamfrance85610 ай бұрын
Where was this ?
@tdsgoob702210 ай бұрын
Omg i threw one if these at my college i tried to find it but could not 😂
@samhaisting452910 ай бұрын
What course is this?
@lxUn1c010 ай бұрын
It's Prickly Pines in Elizabeth, CO.
@BuzzzedSwan10 ай бұрын
Keep disc golf weird & fun! 👍
@russbaker686110 ай бұрын
What course is that?
@snowe..10 ай бұрын
it's prickly pines in elizabeth co
@JacobPorterLadder10 ай бұрын
I would love to throw these bad boys. As a berg lover the thumb holes sounds like a dream Grade A content as always ♻️
@alexanderjagell29639 ай бұрын
I love thumbtracks etc, I want this so bad!
@breinerinc9 ай бұрын
CHING will be back in early 2024.
@alexanderjagell29632 ай бұрын
@@breinerincany news on ching? 😅
@breinerinc2 ай бұрын
@@alexanderjagell2963 CHING Meso JuJu is done and releasing the 4th week of June.
@UnknowableSir10 ай бұрын
Are the Ching Discs PDGA legal?
@Sobo27210 ай бұрын
I believe that all of them were at one point. However just the Big Heavy and Ultimate are still listed.
@breinerinc10 ай бұрын
They are all PDGA approved.
@robortgaming4789 ай бұрын
Did you get any soft or rubber juju chings?
@TheButlerNZ9 ай бұрын
I would tell you how to find Ching's old info but the channel deletes even the vaguest references to a spiders home
@TheButlerNZ9 ай бұрын
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Your site kills any attempt to refrence an address on the either.... Search for the WAY Back Machine and look for chinguscompany but short for that last word... man this is THE last try... about 7 so far,...
@TheButlerNZ9 ай бұрын
FINALLY.... although Vague..... Oh and its actually .... forward... GNR Guitarist.... Sports for ching
@BrightGaming010 ай бұрын
Ok.
@drewbsn10 ай бұрын
PDGA legal?? Can you make some of them?
@Sobo27210 ай бұрын
Edit: I still had something filled in the search fields. Looks like they're all still approved. I believe that all of them were at one point. However just the Big Heavy and Ultimate are still listed for Ching. So I'm assuming that the PDGA just unlisted them and doesn't allow this kind of design any longer.
@breinerinc10 ай бұрын
They are all PDGA approved.
@j-nifty66649 ай бұрын
But are they PDGA approved?
@breinerinc9 ай бұрын
All of the CHING molds are PDGA approved.
@BillFromAZ10 ай бұрын
too bad the 'dimples' are patented. Love to see you include them on your discs.
@ArcticKats10 ай бұрын
I have 2 Juju's in my collection, a soft gummy one & a hard plastic like DX. I putted with them in 2008-2010, but never knew that Innova helped Ching produce the discs.
@caseysmith54410 ай бұрын
The Supreme plastic was like Champion, Innova basically got the info of what plastic company that Ching was getting its plastic from then got it and used a blend to have a stiffer plastic. The one other plastic at the time that was like this was Discraft Elite-Z the early version had a different feel and was more like how modern Latitude 64/other molds feel in the fully clear plastic. Ching also had the Disc Basket they got swiped from the company when they folded in 2002 or 2003 right before I started playing. This is not unlike when Millenium made some of the early Disc Golf Backpacks in 2007--2008 the older models they had one they shipped to China to make a clone of them, at the time the Millenium ones were made in Mexico or in Vietnam. The discs from Ching used to be worth more and only the Innova made discs from the company are worth anything especially the Roc like disc that had the same top the distance drivers Ching made later in a few runs in 2014 planning to get back into the company. At the time the molds made by Innova were made back when Innova East still based out of same city they Do USDGC since 1999/ since 2007 Throw Pink, those two events actually made discs. This was also the same town Ching was from even when the Chinese discs were made at the same time.
@breinerinc10 ай бұрын
The Sniper, Tank, Bomb, & Stinger were Innova molds. Millennium / Hyzerbomb was given permission to run the Tank mold -- they are available. All others are CHING molds.
@timquakenbush941610 ай бұрын
throw them with your thumb on the plate not in a dent
@JZMartinez10 ай бұрын
It's always the arrow. 😎
@trevorthompson390010 ай бұрын
I found one of these one time
@michaelrunge192210 ай бұрын
I have a Juju and a Velocity. Loved both of them. I would love to have another Supreme Velocity.
@michaelrunge192210 ай бұрын
I have a midrange too! The Oracle
@docxen10 ай бұрын
so trash panda driver is having dimples?
@willdurrant448710 ай бұрын
That explains ching rocs
@FYUZNStudio9 ай бұрын
CHING Roc is just an Innova Roc that was processed under a heat press to apply the Full Color imagery.. flattened it out a little. Flying Disc Museum let me blab about it in an article.