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Before Limp Bizkit: How Nu Metal Became Pop - Revisited

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Trash Theory

Trash Theory

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@TrashTheory
@TrashTheory 4 ай бұрын
Every now and then I get people asking for a playlist of every song mentioned in my videos: Well here's a Spotify link for this one: open.spotify.com/playlist/6zAwXVjm19CTGMMqItaHqY?si=7de7cdb96f7045b8 and the KZfaq Music one: music.kzfaq.info/sun/PLooaZ33lSalfYA5iieOyW4czkRSviBYHS&si=DMISvWu3vo7oCBR0
@thepeacefulenemy4026
@thepeacefulenemy4026 4 ай бұрын
Oh that’s so awesome. Thank you!
@LNVACVAC
@LNVACVAC 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 4 ай бұрын
What abt Skunk Anansie? They're Selling Jesus Again? That album was good.
@edgarwalk5637
@edgarwalk5637 4 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@edgarwalk5637
@edgarwalk5637 4 ай бұрын
@@klyanadkmorr I was thinking that. They also have electronic elements, so that could be a new topic altogether, which would be 👌
@r3strt
@r3strt 4 ай бұрын
don't forget about the time that "Killing in the name" became UK Christmas no.1 in 2009 just to protest against X Factor
@dinzy14
@dinzy14 4 ай бұрын
Fuck me, was that REALLY 15 years ago?! I’m gettin’ old 🥴
@juicemofo
@juicemofo 4 ай бұрын
Their BBC performance is one of the funniest things I've seen in my life. kzfaq.infoeo34LFFWNPQ?si=IF7tG8_loGcFnczv
@sonikku956
@sonikku956 3 ай бұрын
That might have been left out because RATM is a rap metal band, and not a nu metal one (despite how influential they were to nu metal)
@mrECisME
@mrECisME 3 ай бұрын
Ironically they only did this Because they were told to
@fragglebrock6772
@fragglebrock6772 3 ай бұрын
I worked at Sony when it happened, v funny. Both songs owned by them. Joe McElderrys product team trying to get the RATM song taken down 😂
@OmahaGTP
@OmahaGTP 4 ай бұрын
This era was as amazing as it was terrible. You had to be there and I am glad I was.
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 4 ай бұрын
I'm too old for emo and too young for punk, of course I was there!
@micktorrans8123
@micktorrans8123 4 ай бұрын
This is the perfect description
@demo3456
@demo3456 4 ай бұрын
it was our generations music. I was 14 in 94 and Nu metal was my soundtrack. Like a lot of us.
@lainiwakura1776
@lainiwakura1776 4 ай бұрын
@@demo3456 That extends to the early 2000s, when I was in high school and SOAD was around.
@roelfkromhout
@roelfkromhout 4 ай бұрын
Well put. I’m kind of protective of it as that stuff was my youth, but the reality is that the vast majority of nu-metal is real awful. With a few notable exceptions. Deftones for instance, I think they had already managed to move past the nu label by their second album really.
@alphacrisis
@alphacrisis 4 ай бұрын
That woodstock line up was insane. No surprise it all went up in flames.
@LordMarlle
@LordMarlle 4 ай бұрын
I've always thought that Limp Bizkit's skills as musicians were underrated. Sam Rivers funky basslines, Wes Borland weird riffss ,and John Otto's drumming. A much better band than the haters would have you believe
@LeadMe2TheBliss
@LeadMe2TheBliss 4 ай бұрын
Limp are a good rap rock band, definitely can't touch KoRn but Korn were more of a nu metal band and Limp were more of a straight-forward rap-rock band. KoRn and Limp are 2 very different bands when you really think about it. I have to admit though Limps rhythm section is genius! Sam and John are quite a duo...I think most peoples issues with L.B are obvious, Fred Durst has a very limited vocal range and overall just isn't the greatest singer...
@simplenough
@simplenough 4 ай бұрын
Their image and fanbase ruined their credibility
@wigs666
@wigs666 4 ай бұрын
Fred Durst was such a bozo, any of LB's interesting bits were overshadowed by his personality
@LeadMe2TheBliss
@LeadMe2TheBliss 4 ай бұрын
@@wigs666 He was a douche, for sure.
@Daneki
@Daneki 4 ай бұрын
Take em to the matthews bridge!
@memunns
@memunns 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Worth noting: Limp Bizkit played on Day 1 of Woodstock '99, Saturday. The major damage happened on Sunday, the next day. Fred Durst is a douche sure, but Limp Bizkit can't be blamed for Woodstock 99. They had no part in the terrible conditions, terrible security, planning, etc. They just went and played like they were supposed to.
@janezverbic2093
@janezverbic2093 Ай бұрын
Yea, but they pumped little idiots up, other band(some with greater ethical integrity would read the room better and give a little speach to the"youths") so i still blame them, newer liked em anyway!
@beezlebub3955
@beezlebub3955 4 ай бұрын
Angel Dust was and will always be absolute fire
@Armakk
@Armakk 4 ай бұрын
Best alt-metal album of the 1990s, hands down.
@MadGeorgeProductions
@MadGeorgeProductions 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, although we sadly lost the guitarist as he thought it was disco bullshit or something like that.
@colletti914
@colletti914 4 ай бұрын
You heard it here, folks. Try PCP!
@beezlebub3955
@beezlebub3955 4 ай бұрын
@@colletti914 🤣🤣
@jupiterthecity
@jupiterthecity 4 ай бұрын
@@MadGeorgeProductions No big loss. He'd totally be the type of guy who is still deeply concerned in 2024 about "posers" infiltrating metal
@ludouniversalis
@ludouniversalis 4 ай бұрын
The transition from Clawfinger's to Korn's slur-titles was brilliant and made me laugh out loud. Great documentary as always!
@jackiespaceman
@jackiespaceman 4 ай бұрын
“Babe, cancel yoga. TT’s talkin’ bout the BIZKIT!!”
@LisaBabe85
@LisaBabe85 4 ай бұрын
Literally listening to this on my way to a full moon yoga class 😂😂
@jr-fu6gj
@jr-fu6gj 4 ай бұрын
i hate my generation. #Rubyfreeman
@MrWayout74
@MrWayout74 4 ай бұрын
@@jr-fu6gj hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Same rules apply
@jasongarcia2140
@jasongarcia2140 4 ай бұрын
​@@jr-fu6gjwhy
@whiteydiamond
@whiteydiamond 4 ай бұрын
Cringe
@lanagievski1540
@lanagievski1540 4 ай бұрын
Casual Bananarama name drop was insane
@izaakbakker9531
@izaakbakker9531 3 ай бұрын
but so right
@sstanfo1
@sstanfo1 4 ай бұрын
You are the only who could get me excited about a Limp Bizkit video 😂😂😂
@austintrousdale2397
@austintrousdale2397 4 ай бұрын
Finn McKenty: am I a joke to you?😖
@MrMmnngghh
@MrMmnngghh 4 ай бұрын
@@austintrousdale2397 That's not an underrated in joke...that's a HIGH QUALITY in joke 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Yixdy
@Yixdy 4 ай бұрын
​@@austintrousdale2397 maaann, I stopped watching him a long ass time ago. It's weird to say he sold out, because like I *really* would prefer it if every KZfaqr at least ran a patreon and did some sort of sponsorships (preferably non-shit companies, of course) but finn just oozes this like "I got my CCCP tattoo covered up the same day I got my real estate license" vibes
@talesxavier5752
@talesxavier5752 4 ай бұрын
​@@Yixdyhe was always like that, it's worth remembering that he was Sargent D of Metalsucks, and the articles he wrote were horrible.
@Yixdy
@Yixdy 4 ай бұрын
@@talesxavier5752 oh, interesting I had no idea, I was never one for reading or caring about reviews of music and stuff because when I started getting heavy into music (heavy into heavy music?) the Internet was nearly in it's current state so I could find stuff on my own. Anyways, I think I'm going to go through and read finn's old metal sucks stuff and have a laugh lol
@ArchangelThunderbird
@ArchangelThunderbird 4 ай бұрын
wow, i did not expect to see the guano apes in here. lords of the boards and open your eyes were hilariously huge in the german skater and snowboard scenes.
@Eric_Hunt194
@Eric_Hunt194 4 ай бұрын
Remember going on a school exchange to Germany, and all the German kids were really into Guano Apes. It was round then that I was in my "mosher" phase so i picked up Proud Like A God from Ändra in Münster.
@TheBlackD
@TheBlackD 4 ай бұрын
Their music was quite common in extreme sports videos. Those videos had such a cultural impact back in the days.
@Scriptadiaboly
@Scriptadiaboly 4 ай бұрын
Ukraine loved GA - especially 2000 and 2003 albums and Path with Apocalyptica
@nyengster
@nyengster 3 ай бұрын
We loved them here in Denmark too
@danel1922
@danel1922 3 ай бұрын
where H-BLOCKS though?
@GP1138
@GP1138 4 ай бұрын
I still maintain that Korn's first album is a fucking monster. It's juvenile at times, but it's brutal.
@nothingelse1520
@nothingelse1520 3 ай бұрын
Yeah their first album is the one that truly stood the test of time, I am into high end audio gear and I use Blind to test stuff constantly.
@krissybetty2892
@krissybetty2892 4 ай бұрын
Living Colour are so underrated, those guys deserved to be way bigger
@aotctd
@aotctd 2 ай бұрын
LoL They were literally on Mainstream TV and Radio What the Hell are you talking about ?
@zombielynx21
@zombielynx21 4 ай бұрын
Break Stuff is a perfect single. It's all dynamic shifts and mood.
@simplenough
@simplenough 4 ай бұрын
Any fan of rock music should see them perform it once in their life
@zenleeparadise
@zenleeparadise 4 ай бұрын
The lyrics are obnoxious and obvious and uncreative and hearing that song always makes me chuckle. I listen to it for a good fifteen seconds before inevitably getting sick of it immediately and changing the station, though admittedly it's usually with a smile on my face and a playful head shake. It's a bad song. Its good qualities are not enough to overcome its bad qualities.
@TheInsaniacGuy
@TheInsaniacGuy 4 ай бұрын
​@@zenleeparadise You just clearly have never packed a chainsaw & skinned an ass raw.
@ReXtion88
@ReXtion88 4 ай бұрын
Wes Borland is a fucking genius
@colletti914
@colletti914 4 ай бұрын
​@@zenleeparadiseThank you. I'm actually admittedly a big Limp Bizkit fan, and that song is just so boring to me. I have no idea how it got so big.
@blouburkette
@blouburkette 4 ай бұрын
The McDonalds of Metal just about sums it up. Still enjoy it. TT: You should cover Ween. I think it would be a fun long video for you.
@Borninxixax
@Borninxixax 4 ай бұрын
Before (and After) Ocean Man?
@yondie491
@yondie491 3 ай бұрын
Considering how in depth these videos are, that would have to be at least five hours long.
@1travstone
@1travstone 3 ай бұрын
Ween is an incredible band.
@aotctd
@aotctd 2 ай бұрын
Why are you styled like My Generation and how we grew up ?
@rolanalberto3064
@rolanalberto3064 4 ай бұрын
I likened FNM’s “Angel Dust” to Weezer’s “Pinkerton”: critics just never understood those albums from the time they were released. Now, both albums are considered cult classics on numerous “Top tier” lists and pioneered the development of their respective genres: Angel Dust was to Nu-Metal as Pinkerton was to 2000’s Emo and Powerpop. Commercial flops that were became timeless classics 👌
@WILD__THINGS
@WILD__THINGS 4 ай бұрын
18:15 And to take that one further, on the Limp Bizkit song "Stuck" Fred Durst raps "All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi. Far from Suicidal, still I get them tendencies"
@xReflamed
@xReflamed 4 ай бұрын
I love how many female artists you included in the end reel with contemporary artists!
@franohmsford7548
@franohmsford7548 4 ай бұрын
Should probably have given at least a mention to the likes of Human Waste Project and Kittie who were there in the 90s. Yes I know Kittie have done a Deftones and disavowed Nu-Metal but come on :)
@Nick2Fish
@Nick2Fish 4 ай бұрын
​@franohmsford7548 several of the bands featured in the video have at one point tried to distance themselves from the nu-metal label, some just gave up, accepted it, & rolled with whatever it brang
@goslin91
@goslin91 4 ай бұрын
Without being up to that point yet, I'm going to say Poppy, and then probably Chvrches (because they're always mentioned in every video)
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 4 ай бұрын
@@Nick2Fish I think at this point it's how you separate the good nu-metal bands from the derivative trash. If you have ever said "we aren't nu-metal" then you're probably worth a listen!
@joeyree22
@joeyree22 3 ай бұрын
“United by the power of weed”, ain’t it the truth!
@JoeMamaBesser
@JoeMamaBesser 4 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for mentioning Prong. Far too often neglected.
@bgorski6937
@bgorski6937 3 ай бұрын
Agree.👍✌
@wallac11
@wallac11 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for recognizing Prong's influence. A very underrated and influential band.
@NateTheGnat
@NateTheGnat 4 ай бұрын
They were years ahead of their time. And once the rest of the world caught up with them, they had already disbanded.
@izaakbakker9531
@izaakbakker9531 3 ай бұрын
@@NateTheGnat saw them and helmet a couple of times in the last few years. Helmet definitely want to show how good they can do cool jazz . Prong are still angry. Actually clawfinger Were really fun live as well . One of my favourite current bands is ho99o9 industrial trap death metal hardcore punk . with outfits. lovely
@vadersjester
@vadersjester 3 ай бұрын
I remember hearing Who's Fist Is This Anyway at a friend's house in the 90s and "Playing for the hate team" immediately made me laugh and start listening properly. Quality band.
@peacexlove
@peacexlove 2 ай бұрын
I was personally excited to see Hed PE get a shout out 😂
@XavierGoncalves89
@XavierGoncalves89 4 ай бұрын
Chester's screams eventually got me into all the screaming stuff, screamo, post-metal, post-hardcore etc, so I thank nu-metal for exposing me to different stuff
@cheeselad2401
@cheeselad2401 3 ай бұрын
Linkin Park was a gateway drug for me too
@transsexual_void_fairy
@transsexual_void_fairy 3 ай бұрын
screamo is SO GOOD post hardcore is sO GOOD
@aotctd
@aotctd 2 ай бұрын
@@transsexual_void_fairy It's hilarious
@theheltonator2852
@theheltonator2852 4 ай бұрын
I still have my original cassette of Body Count with Cop Killer on it
@Dshado
@Dshado 4 ай бұрын
I can't stop thinking you describing the drop in Killing In the Name Of as "cathartic". Its exactly how it feels.
@Psykostatik
@Psykostatik 4 ай бұрын
Love all your videos. Keep up the great work. Sidenote you forgot to mention how Industrial/ Industrial Metal had a huge impact on Numetal as a whole.
@WeEatGhostsband
@WeEatGhostsband 4 ай бұрын
Would love a video on the Dillinger escape plan and mathcore in general
@bgorski6937
@bgorski6937 3 ай бұрын
God I love that band! Good shout. I'd love to see a video on DEP.
@tdp2612
@tdp2612 4 ай бұрын
25:30 that transition was beautiful, well done. As someone who knows nothing about nu metal I had no idea what was coming
@Cleindori
@Cleindori 4 ай бұрын
The music of my childhood. I regret nothing, still in the playlist. Thank you for another informative doc!
@zplapplap
@zplapplap 4 ай бұрын
You’ve created a definitive reference document. Congrats on a job well done. 👍🏽
@bgorski6937
@bgorski6937 3 ай бұрын
His whole catalog of videos are good and really well researched.
@craigcharlesworth1538
@craigcharlesworth1538 4 ай бұрын
I think it was around the time I heard Papa Roach that I knew nu-metal was done. Deftones were and are a legitimately great band and Korn were obviously pioneers, while Bizkit were... well, Bizkit were Bizkit. But Papa Roach were the point where I realised this was going the same way as grunge and Britpop; every label trying to sign up anything that moved until the market was flooded with shite. Shortly after that came Alien Ant Farm and that was really when I felt like the wheels were coming off. Was it worth it? We got Deftones out of it, and Slipknot, Korn and SOAD had a handful of good tunes. As a metal fan, it was fun to see something adjascent to the music I liked actually getting played on the radio and appearing on Top of the Pops. So yeah, it was alright. But it really doesn't need a fucking revival.
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 4 ай бұрын
Papa roach was my lesson not to buy an album off of the strength of one song. I still enjoy Last Resort but if ever a band deserved to be a one hit wonder it was them.
@iamcode.4
@iamcode.4 3 ай бұрын
Yep. That general era very clearly became the time companies figured out how to take something that was popular and wrap it in a radio friendly package to shove down everyone's throats.
@transsexual_void_fairy
@transsexual_void_fairy 3 ай бұрын
a HANDFUL of good tunes? a handful?
@aotctd
@aotctd 2 ай бұрын
@@transsexual_void_fairy F U L L OF G A R B A G E
@pfbmdgn
@pfbmdgn 4 ай бұрын
"Break Stuff" was the 4th single from Significant Other
@xxtool420xx
@xxtool420xx 4 ай бұрын
lol "or whatevers going on with Mudvayne" lol
@juliangheiler7646
@juliangheiler7646 4 ай бұрын
At around 32:30 the line about people accusing Sepultura of selling out with their single-string riffs on “Roots” really pisses me off because it’s pure ignorance. If you know anything about capoeira or Brazilian culture you’d know that the sound (especially in the sample riff in the video) mimicks the sound of the tradition instrument berimbau. It’s extremely clever and well done.
@mattmiller4821
@mattmiller4821 23 күн бұрын
i was a nerdy 14 year old when Beneath The Remains came out. Me and all the metal heads i knew NEVER thought Sepultura sold out with Roots. From the first note the first time you heard the opening track, every metal head i knew had this shit on loop. Hands down best album of 1996. Old person brag. Saw them live a in Nov. '96 right before Max left; without a doubt the best live show i've ever witnessed.
@juliangheiler7646
@juliangheiler7646 18 күн бұрын
@@mattmiller4821 Crazy old person brag haha. As someone who was a year old in 1996 I was very grateful that Max & Igor (to me the most important elements of the Sepultura sound) did the Return to Roots tour in 2016. I got to see them perform the entire album. Not as good as seeing them in their prime, but I am thankful that they did that.
@martharunstheworld
@martharunstheworld 4 ай бұрын
I'm not a Nu Metal fan, but I do love some of the bands that inspired them. Faith No More, Prong, Helmet, all great music! And of course, even if I haven't heard of the band or even like the music, I'm going to watch your videos because they're really good!!
@Aubee89
@Aubee89 4 ай бұрын
Love this channel! Thanks for awesome content over the years
@baloymoisesrodriguezcolmen7812
@baloymoisesrodriguezcolmen7812 4 ай бұрын
The best essay I've ever watched about nu metal, you mentioned everything, from classic music to the new "standard" I never expected to watch a video where bands like at the drive in, fleshwater and such other artists were mentioned to explain the whole story of a genre like nu metal, it is like, every single essay out there is just shallow af
@NunSuperior
@NunSuperior 4 ай бұрын
This vid sums up my 20's. Other bands (there are so many) : Systematic, Skrape, Rammstein, Mudvayne, Kittie, Infectious Grooves, Grinspoon, Blindside, plus all the tangential Industrial bands and whatever Rob Zombie's stuff is.
@BitzboxTV
@BitzboxTV 4 ай бұрын
This was the music I grew up with during my teens. Can't say I listen to any of these bands that much these days but this video has certainly made me want to revisit them all.
@LeadMe2TheBliss
@LeadMe2TheBliss 4 ай бұрын
Same here, but I never stopped listening to it and I even saw Coal Chamber in concert for the 3rd time last summer with Mudvayne.
@BitzboxTV
@BitzboxTV 4 ай бұрын
@@LeadMe2TheBliss I bet that was an epic gig!
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 4 ай бұрын
This is the music I got into in my 20s but seeing as all the bands I was into in my teens are cited here as proto-nu-metal (Pantera, Machine Head, Sepultura etc.) it was inevitable I would get into nu-metal, the people writing it were listening to all the same stuff I was.
@tsartomato
@tsartomato 4 ай бұрын
they just never made anything good since then. they grew up and turned into old people and music is for the young
@greyarea6688
@greyarea6688 4 ай бұрын
Limp Bizkit is something I have a bit of a love/hate relationship towards so I'm very much going to enjoy your latest video! 😂
@LeadMe2TheBliss
@LeadMe2TheBliss 4 ай бұрын
We all have a love/hate relationship with that band lol join the club!
@PC__________1973
@PC__________1973 4 ай бұрын
well done including Urban dance squad and clawfinger
@transsexual_void_fairy
@transsexual_void_fairy 3 ай бұрын
indeed.
@freke80
@freke80 4 ай бұрын
This was a really well-researched and insightful video that brought back a lot of great memories from that era of music. I loved how you traced the origins and evolution of nu metal, from the early rap-rock crossovers through the rise of bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park in the late 90s/early 2000s. Your passion and knowledge of the subject really shines through. The way you contextualized the music with what was going on culturally at the time was spot-on. And I appreciated your balanced take - celebrating what made nu metal exciting and impactful for a generation, while also acknowledging some of its more problematic elements. Overall, this was a super engaging and nostalgic trip down memory lane. Your videos are always such a treat - informative, entertaining and crafted with obvious care and attention to detail. Please keep up the amazing work! Your thoughtful deep dives into music history are a real gift. Thanks for putting so much effort into this stellar content.❤
@rudolphcordon3017
@rudolphcordon3017 4 ай бұрын
Thanks to the resurgence of nu-metal, there have been a load of videos lately documenting it's origin and rise. Then comes the serious debate of it's significance within metal. IF NU-METAL DID NOT HAPPEN, THE METAL BOUNDARIES WILL NOT HAVE BEEN PUSHED AND METAL WOULD HAVE GOTTEN BORING.
@aotctd
@aotctd 2 ай бұрын
It became boring because of that
@WrexsolToob
@WrexsolToob 4 ай бұрын
I think the world is finally ready for a heavy version of 'The Living Years'
@toppersundquist
@toppersundquist 4 ай бұрын
That takes me back... I gotta listen to Prong again.
@Iram_Ali
@Iram_Ali 4 ай бұрын
I didn't like most of the music in this video, but I really enjoy the way you make these videos, so I watched the whole thing. Excellent work as always 👍
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 4 ай бұрын
Trash Theory talking about nu metal. Today’s going to be a great day!
@kapage74
@kapage74 4 ай бұрын
Never expected to hear Spiritbox in a TT video, was a nice surprise at the end As always yiu smashed this, but thank you for showing the human side of creation at the start and putting in the effort to update it, your work on it was really clear to see
@bgorski6937
@bgorski6937 3 ай бұрын
He surprises me in every video with some of the bands he mentions. At this point I really shouldn't be surprised anymore.
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 4 ай бұрын
I would've mentioned Godflesh, if only for their very obvious influence on Korn, but fantastic video as usual
@VuotoPneumaNN
@VuotoPneumaNN 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, they never get mentioned as an influence to nu metal, and it’s absolutely preposterous. Korn based their guitar and bass tone on Broadrick&Greene’s.
@johnbehan1526
@johnbehan1526 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, there's not enough room in one video to go over everything, but I would have dropped in nod to industrial, NIN are another glaring omission. Pitchshifter and Misery Loves Co weren't big bands but they were definitely part of this equation for me as well.
@johnbehan1526
@johnbehan1526 3 ай бұрын
Oh fuck and Fear Factory and White Zombie n' all. How can you do rap crossover and groove metal without La Sexorcisto? Anyway, nu metal was kind of a distillate from a lot of influences, too numerous to name. This video did a good job of getting the point across: there's 5 or 6 good bands with one or two essential albums, but it was a flash in the pan as a scene
@VuotoPneumaNN
@VuotoPneumaNN 3 ай бұрын
@@johnbehan1526 Pitchshifter is totally forgettable and derivative band. Misery Loves Co could have fit as part of a general nod to what was happening around Europe, but they aren’t really that important. Yeah, Fear Factory should have got a mention.
@johnbehan1526
@johnbehan1526 3 ай бұрын
@@VuotoPneumaNNSo What? Derivative is the point. Pitchshifter drew together Ministry and Godflesh with the mid pace of that "Black Album" Metallica, and they had that early 90's Melvins/Fudge Tunnel/Therapy?/Big Black sound. The muddy guitars, simple and riffs and a more British sensibility in the electronic parts made Korn and Deftones sound pretty familiar to me in 1995.
@BigBubbaloola
@BigBubbaloola 4 ай бұрын
Please do a deeper dive on Faith No More. They are sorely underserved here on YT about their careers and spin offs.
@davidmatheny1993
@davidmatheny1993 4 ай бұрын
My home state of Georgia seems to have a band that finds relevance in almost every subgenre of rock. Sevendust happened to be our contribution to "nu-Metal".
@ClockwiseCat
@ClockwiseCat 4 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that Ross Robinson produced The Cure's self-titled album in 2004. It has some good songs, but the production is mostly horrific. However, the best song on the album (Lost) has some clear nu-metal influences.
@morganmensa5129
@morganmensa5129 4 ай бұрын
Korn Life is Peachy was my jam. I still got the promo cassette. This is very well researched and spot on as I remember it.
@morrigan43
@morrigan43 4 ай бұрын
a great video! as a nu metal fan born after its golden age it has been fascinating to see it become almost mainstream again. i was already mostly aware of most of the influences on the metal side of things, but this video made me realize that maybe i'd enjoy late 80s/90s hip hop too, which is a genre i never really dived into before! i've never heard of "judgement night" before either but i think it might be what i start with:)
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 4 ай бұрын
Definitely give Body Count a listen. a perfect crossover of old school hip hop and metal and sadly as politically relevant today as it was back in the 90s.
@lainiwakura1776
@lainiwakura1776 4 ай бұрын
If it's not on KROQ, it's not mainstream. Idk what KROQ is thinking is cool now, but they're wrong and new heavy music needs to be played more on radio.
@lainiwakura1776
@lainiwakura1776 4 ай бұрын
@@misterthegeoff9767 I feel that way about "Holiday in Cambodia."
@sebastianmaydana7380
@sebastianmaydana7380 4 ай бұрын
I'm watching this because I love your videos. I could never click on other guys' Limp Bizkit KZfaq essays
@ricequin
@ricequin 4 ай бұрын
I was sure I remembered hearing Killing in the Name on the Chart rundown on Radio 1 and being cut short after the first “F bomb”. Thanks for confirming I didn’t imagine it.
@xiocata9597
@xiocata9597 4 ай бұрын
its unbelievable that more than half of this 50 min video is only 4 years time wise so much have happend
@TheJordan75
@TheJordan75 4 ай бұрын
I feel like the only thing that was not mentioned is the influence of 90's industrial rock and metal on Nu-metal. Also, I feel like Dropout Kings, Slaughter to Prevail and Tallah definitely deserved a mention at the end.
@talesxavier5752
@talesxavier5752 4 ай бұрын
Also bands like DangerKids, Blind Channel, Blackgold, From Ashes To New, Cane Hill, HourHouse, .bHP, Omerta, Sleep Theory, Hanabie, Ocean Groove, Blood Youth, Static Dress, Vein-fm and Paledusk definitely deserved a mention on this new wave of nu metal bands (and is worth mentioning that metalcore is now very influenced by the genre).
@EmyrDerfel
@EmyrDerfel 3 ай бұрын
Rammstein fit into all of this somehow, but also don't fit in anywhere.
@ObsidianSouls
@ObsidianSouls 4 ай бұрын
Great job for going into more depth. And being candid about not endorsing some of the less savory aspects of the genre's melodies.
@faithlessfate
@faithlessfate 4 ай бұрын
I remember this from high school… good times. Great video.
@gardenboydon
@gardenboydon 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! Nu metal had an undeniable influence for sure. However I don't know if I would ever want to experience that scene again lol
@kydewees
@kydewees 4 ай бұрын
311 were massive in America. Their 1995 blue album had many singles on the radio in addition to Down with videos on constant rotation on MTV. Tons of pop hits in the late 90s. Set the blueprint for Limp Bizkit especially with using a piccolo snare.
@cris_261
@cris_261 4 ай бұрын
I saw 311 with Incubus as the opening act. Both bands put on a great show.
@kydewees
@kydewees 4 ай бұрын
@@cris_261 Amazing, the band from Omaha, Nebraska often forgotten in the nu metal discussion but I remember 311 being all over radio/MTV back in the 90s. I don't think many realize Korn and Incubus were on the same indie label (Immortal) that had a deal with a major (Epic/Sony).
@cris_261
@cris_261 4 ай бұрын
@@kydewees Korn developed a big fan base in the 90s in Utah. I don't remember the year, but Korn was part of a show with God Lives Underwater and KMFDM that performed at Saltair.
@lainiwakura1776
@lainiwakura1776 4 ай бұрын
311 is a band from my childhood in the 90s, the only song I don't like from them that I've heard is their cover of "Lovesong."
@Olly__Zines-By-Blade
@Olly__Zines-By-Blade 4 ай бұрын
This video was so fuckin cool, I listen to a fair bit of this stuff but it tends to fall on the more popular side of the genre, so i'm excited to listen to all of the music mentioned and undoubtedly find some new favourite tracks now
@franohmsford7548
@franohmsford7548 4 ай бұрын
Great video but I feel that Linkin Park's "In The End" and Limp Bizkit's "Take a Look Around" certainly both deserved a mention along with "One Step Closer" and "Rollin'". - Also nice to see the new female acts promoted at the end but why not mention the likes of Kittie and Human Waste Project who were there in the 90s?
@lainiwakura1776
@lainiwakura1776 4 ай бұрын
"In The End" doesn't have enough screaming.
@patrickaker4380
@patrickaker4380 4 ай бұрын
This era hit when I got my drivers license. That meant getting my first car, and in turn my first car stereo system. Was non stop nu metal playing to and from school and I don’t regret a second of it.
@TheStubLord
@TheStubLord 4 ай бұрын
this is bringing me back bro, well done
@yahoozle123
@yahoozle123 2 ай бұрын
Huge respect for mentioning Loud Rocks, very underrated compilation! I still listen to the Incubus version of Big Pun - Still Not a Player to this day
@misterbailey9406
@misterbailey9406 4 ай бұрын
I love your narration so much in your videos! You even said “Sade” correctly as (shar-day) just like on the original printings of “Diamond Life”. I’m so glad I subscribed 😊
@c.brogansavage3385
@c.brogansavage3385 4 ай бұрын
Wow. So incredibly well-researched and put together. I was building a playlist whilst watching. I did start to get a bit depressed towards the end but then you shared the new artists and I instantly felt better! So happy to see the new wave of artists building on this genre. Also Deftones 4eva 🖤🖤🖤
@oroman007
@oroman007 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video. A deeper look into the late 80's/early 90's NYHC scene would be a great expansion to it.
@mutantdog.
@mutantdog. 4 ай бұрын
I’m gonna dispute the claim that Limp Bizkit kicked off the trend for 80s covers, I’d argue that Marilyn Manson’s version of Sweet Dreams was far more significant.
@JhonNye96
@JhonNye96 4 ай бұрын
Good point!
@LeadMe2TheBliss
@LeadMe2TheBliss 4 ай бұрын
I like some of L.B's songs but I hated that cover, not because it was L.B I just don't like the song itself...KoRn are probably my favorite band of all time and I will say the same thing about Word Up...just a bad song and not a good choice for a cover song. Even Munky from KoRn says he wishes they didn't release Word Up.
@ihateyoubees
@ihateyoubees 4 ай бұрын
As someone who grew up in the 90s and listened to Nu Metal (and still do) Sick New World was amazing last year, and it was amazing to see thousands of other people my age listening to the music that I got made fun of a lot for liking. I also want to say thanks for including Guano Apes! They are one of my favorite bands of all time.
@millerhxc
@millerhxc 4 ай бұрын
"Britain didn't really get Godsmack" I grew up in London and I went out straight away to get that debut album. I loved them at the time. I feel like I knew people who liked them too - maybe they weren't huge but known enough.
@transsexual_void_fairy
@transsexual_void_fairy 3 ай бұрын
when i was a kid in the early 2000s looking for nu metal (i was already a fan of slipknot and korn) , godsmack was often recommended along with mudvayne, sevendust ,dry kill logic, kittie, coal chamber...
@Joe-qq6bs
@Joe-qq6bs 3 күн бұрын
You forgot Slayer's Diabolus in Musica. Great video though. The best I've seen about Nu-Metal.
@LeadMe2TheBliss
@LeadMe2TheBliss 4 ай бұрын
I saw Helmet open for KoRn in 2022, very awesome concert from both bands!
@browntabproductions
@browntabproductions 2 ай бұрын
Thoroughly enjoying ALL of these Segments. Just pissed I’m discovering them so late. Awesome writing, editing, research, and, vo. Keep up the good work. Thank you. 🤘😎🤘 LOVE to see you take a deep dive into “Punk 1977-1980: London vs. New York City vs. Los Angeles”.
@MrJTHOMMO
@MrJTHOMMO 4 ай бұрын
I thought the story with RATM and BBC Radio 1 was that they played live and were asked not to swear but then did and it was broadcast.
@TrashTheory
@TrashTheory 4 ай бұрын
That was BBC 5 Live when it got to Xmas Number One in 2009. It has somehow happened twice. The BBC never learns.
@ReXtion88
@ReXtion88 4 ай бұрын
@@TrashTheory To be fair, it's a no-win situation. They have to ask Rage not to do the explicit version, and there is no chance that Rage will ever accede to the request
@acetate909
@acetate909 4 ай бұрын
​@@ReXtion88 BS. They made sure every audience member at there show got the jab. Way to stick it to the man and stand agaisnt the global pharmaceutical criminal cartel.
@SyntaxErr19287
@SyntaxErr19287 4 ай бұрын
@@ReXtion88only experimental vaccine requests
@JustinWoo
@JustinWoo 3 ай бұрын
This is the best deep dive of a musical movement I lived through I've ever seen. It's very easy to totally disregard this moment in metal but it's pretty hard to understand where metal is now without understanding nu metal.
@zombielynx21
@zombielynx21 4 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I wanted. Thank you.
@alisonjane7068
@alisonjane7068 4 ай бұрын
this was the soundtrack to my high school experience. i'm so happy right now. gonna tuck in with some ramen and enjoy the ride.
@RuthlessMojo
@RuthlessMojo 3 ай бұрын
I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s listening to rap, hip hop, alternative and metal music. My first CD was Paul’s Boutique by the Beastie Boys. I was also into Ice T, Run DMC and Faith No More. For me Angel Dust was a revelation, just as Incubus’ SCIENCE was years later. In my late teens I taught myself guitar and when I was at university in the mid 90’s I joined a band. They were mainly into grunge and alternative. With there alternative and punk leanings I added rap and metal and we wrote an album of music in several months. We combined rap, punk, grunge, alternative, metal, rock, lounge, blues, soft rock and funk to create something fairly new at the time. My personal influences at that time were The Doors, Faith No More, Ice T, Cypress Hill, Das Efx, NWA, Eazy E, Primus, Incubus and even U2. Really good times. Much better than the crap that’s peddled on the charts today.
@kevins8071
@kevins8071 3 ай бұрын
I’m sure someone has mentioned this already in the comments, but boy was the 90’s an amazing era for all sorts of musical styles and genres. I don’t think we will ever get that again. The Gen X in me is proud.
@antivalidisme5669
@antivalidisme5669 4 ай бұрын
Another banger I should say. I have to admit that I paused the video a ton of times to listen to some songs- mainly Public enemy, Body Count, Faith No More and Sepultura's ones I should mention- , and though I completely missed the Nu metal wave, maybe because I'm 50 years old and from a non English speaking country, I absolutely love your approach. Oh I almost forgot to mention that the Nova Twins and their kind of meta modernism slap in my humble opinion, and they are certainly not alone as you perfectly mentioned . Cheers
@r7coo
@r7coo 3 ай бұрын
I'm doing exactly the same - some real gems here , an amazing video.
@osi666
@osi666 2 ай бұрын
Love your music essays really much.. Thank you!
@NuMetalfan1996
@NuMetalfan1996 4 ай бұрын
I think Nu-Metal is more Metal than Metal Elitists and Traditionalists think it is. Rock Musics roots come from American Deep South Bluegrass music of the early African Americans. But Metal’s roots come from Ethnic Tribal music from Africa and South America. Metal is about that primal urge to groove to the beat of the music. And it’s that primal urge to groove to the music is what the Groove Metal and later Nu-Metal/Rap Metal bands in the 90’s wanted to revisit. As in the 80’s Metal was becoming technical and more about the musicianship which in turn Metal started to be influenced by Classical music in the 80’s. But Metal’s roots is of Ethnic Tribal music of grooving to the beat of the sounds. So Nu-Metal is far more Traditional Metal than people think it is.
@pickyourteethup
@pickyourteethup 4 ай бұрын
That opening is basically the tracklist of my favourite minidisc at college
@Severinate
@Severinate 4 ай бұрын
The Prodigy - Fat of the Land.
@MrMmnngghh
@MrMmnngghh 4 ай бұрын
Wat Tyler - Fat Of The Band
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 4 ай бұрын
I'm with you. Firestarter and Breathe (and sometimes Poison but that was off Jilted Generation) were the only dance music tracks that were also playing in the metal clubs when I was a teenager. They were my first exposure to the fact you could have keyboards and samples and still have a metal sound and a Pridigy show is the only place where you will see the old school ravers and the metalheads hanging out together.
@Severinate
@Severinate 4 ай бұрын
@@misterthegeoff9767 Exactelly. Prodigy crossed genres right at the time Nu-Metal became the next big thing. Tom Morello also guested on 'No Man Army' and Jim Davies (Pitchshifter) was a regular member.
@zeitok8
@zeitok8 3 ай бұрын
I love The Prodigy, but they weren't alone, the '90s were full of fusions everywhere every year.
@IainFrame
@IainFrame Ай бұрын
Some fantastic music there!! Great video. Thanks.
@PelleSpokes
@PelleSpokes 4 ай бұрын
Really commendable to remake this video, great stuff!
@KaessirAddaj
@KaessirAddaj 4 ай бұрын
Although your original video on this topic was very good, the remake is fantastic! Good job, keep it coming!
@austintrousdale2397
@austintrousdale2397 4 ай бұрын
Like the difference between a pamphlet and an encyclopedia 👏
@nuke97
@nuke97 3 ай бұрын
I lived this entire era from jr high to high school. You nailed the era. Awesome video.
@tansbizarreadventure
@tansbizarreadventure 3 ай бұрын
i can’t describe how much i love this channel, i listened to most of the groups you cover when they were past their “prime” and i love the lore that you cover also at 40:32 im dying at the “vanilla ice again” comment
@BrightLightsTonight
@BrightLightsTonight 3 ай бұрын
Leaving aside the genuinely interesting overview of a genre that I would have otherwise had ZERO interest in, I need to note that your execution of the gag at 25:25 is flat-out PERFECT.
@miahthorpatrick1013
@miahthorpatrick1013 3 ай бұрын
First class doc, TT! I love that you pointed out more than once that Deftones had a Sade-vibe going on occasionally. Really been getting into Sade lately and I’ve loved Deftones for a very long time.
@CappyLarou
@CappyLarou 4 ай бұрын
United by weed...I almost died laughing
@DQSpider
@DQSpider 4 ай бұрын
no lies detected tho
@laurisaarinen1126
@laurisaarinen1126 3 ай бұрын
So happy with all the bands mentioned here, you have done better job at documenting nu metal than anyone else on YT. I grew up in the era, and have a lot of love for many of these bands, but weirdly my favorite bands are the ones that kind of "associate" with nu metal but are not exactly. 311, Incubus, Deftones and Slipknot have been mainstays through the years for me. But even Slipknot and Deftones go beyond nu metal enough that it doesn't seem to describe their sound well enough. I end up always loving those bands the most who defy genre labels, like also Faith No More and Jane's Addiction.
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781 4 ай бұрын
Mate you are the ultimate source of music genre summary. I am stunned by how well versed you are in so many genres. Keep going! ❤
@wallac11
@wallac11 4 ай бұрын
You did a great job here analysing the artists in the 1980's that were the roots of this genre.
@kauemv2
@kauemv2 3 ай бұрын
I would love to see video playlists from your awesome videos!!!
@gibberishdump1610
@gibberishdump1610 4 ай бұрын
You should do before suicidal tendencies
@phogmasheeen
@phogmasheeen 4 ай бұрын
This episode is clearly the high water mark for Trash Theory. Much love for this fine work...
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