Staring at a small bald man who looks like a thumb haha

The aliens also asked him to do DMT

😆😆😆

lol

"Move the probe about a fist from your face"

More people should do so.. then

Ugh ikr?! He was like, "This is a big deal. I should present my best." Love it and him.

It's the biggest podcast in the world. Most influential. Oh, and Joe's Rogan's best buddy Bryan Callens dad is a lifelong council on foreign relations member........

It takes one to know one....and I agree totally, you can see he’s a gentleman.

On point with this comment 💯

So was Einstein a price to pay indeed

Because he is a Liar.

He's been lying for nearly 50 years straight about this bullshit.

​@@anacc9261how

@@DavidTheGoliathSlayer What? Who the f called Einstein a liar. Stop making sh** up. Plus, Einstein was vindicated several times during his lifetime. 4ucking comparing Travis Walton to Einstein, holy shit.

You can see why she divorced him.

@@TheFrenchPugI can see why someone would divorce you if you could even get married. Being insufferable online is not a good trait

@@kenm6835You're obviously not good at reading people and making inferences off a one sentence comment. 🙄

Ive seen things in the sky i cant explain… i even seen flashes of blue light coming from the woods as i was driving on a highway and i cant explain it… the weirdest thing i ever seen was also witnessed by four other friends and id call it a mothership if thats what it was! It was the size of 3 highschool football fields.. cloaked!!! Couldnt tell its exact shape or color but seen at least 3 flashing lights on it and it was only a few hundred feet in the air and made absolutely no sound!!!!! This thing didn’t turn like a plane would…it shifted!!! Craziest scariest unexplained event I ever witnessed with my friends on highway 2 around midnight or so and it just so happened their wasn’t a car in sight in front of us or behind us! Just us and this giant thing in the sky!

@@tianahsayers1077my dad and I saw something similar on I-95 one night. The creepiest part was the fact that it made no sound at all and had no type of propellers to make it go. The speed at which it flew off is something I thought only happened in movies. Gravity didn’t seem to exist to the craft. My life changed that night I haven’t been the same since.

Yeah....here inside like a galaxy aircraft

Do you think biden looks like the “aliens” Travis remembers and Hollywood tried to replicate, Coast a.m and Steve Qail have me wondering, I don’t think they are aliens, I think they were hunting dear, and their craft can be set to hunt.

Wow bro that made me spit out my drink too funny man 😅😂🤣🤣

😂😂😂

Watch "Fire in the sky" if you want a visual of what happened great flim.

BEST comment and two likes... There is your like value gauge

Yep some people like that and just make funny jokes about it...

I laughed so hard!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

That’s what he gets for wearing a necktie. Sucka.

Travis Walton tells his entire story Joe “I saw this video of a monkey riding a motorcycle and jumped off to try and steal a baby”

He has taken you for a mug.

What getting rich and famous from his "story". It's to much like a 70's Syfy alien story to be true.

He endured a lot for creating a ridiculous hoax.

This guy is sooooooooo full of shit when you constantly say um and ahhh you lying ! Policing 101

That is awesome! I've met him, had a great conversation with him as well. The most down to Earth man that's been up in space on a UFO!

Yes. He stands tall and proud. Even after the probe...

Lmao 🤣

Lmfaaao

This comment is underrated

killcount 207?

These comments are hilarious Hahahhahaha

Lol why isn't your comment number 1

Hilarious

😂👌

Rogan exposed

That's so funny bro, hahahaha... Lol

Oh no no no

I wish him the best as well. Especially after they probed him...

​@@Acoustic-Rabbit-HoleLike how Cartman was

LOL! @@brendansmith3851

I'll teach you something young one, never get "instant vibes"

I have seen that too bur with only 3 lights. The cirkular moments were not regular though, so it was almost like they were playing or showing off.

​@Sara-et1bp yes , showing off is an impression I got

I have seen the ship in the sky it looks like the outline of it a ship but invisible

@ladylove360 YES ! I saw this same phenomenon a few times....one outline in particular was HUGE , traveling across the afternoon sky near south-western Ohio. Like a "cloaking device" ....at least eight "points" in the outline..... I noticed because I was always looking up to the skies....

I don’t sorry

The mind control worked haha

Martian manhunter reference?

We are the ship 😵

He looks like elonMusk

🤯

Hilarious!

You are racist.

@@aliveli-hq6zk Who is racist?

@@georgegreig8054 mind your own biz

@@aliveli-hq6zk Intergalactic Mongol?

It was a cia black op... sounds crazy, I know but most likely what it was

And the fact that the others involved have always kept to the same story too without any financial gain

@@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7204 and all passed polygraphs while travis was missing. Save for one. Not that he failed it; just inconclusive

@@dannychop4824 You went from saying what it was without a doubt to that's what It most likely was......so you don't know but still saw fit to talk rubbish.

@@josephlang2586 polygraphs don't mean anything, they can be easily faked.

he had to slip in a roast

Lmfao

“The Red Spaceship”

Joe: you're absolutely right ;)👽 Travis: fuck not again!😱🙈🍑🍆

@@Bloodborne900 lmfao

He isn’t. He has made a living off this. He knows after forty years how to act because folks like you think of yourself as experts on reading people

​@@salvagemonster3612so "people like you" are good at reading people? Just asking 😊

He is lying.. of you cant see that, you might have brain damage

He's lying lol. Do you still believe in Santa Clause too lol?

A lot of abductions are man made back in the day the one from pensicola whatever it was called and so was the Betty and Barney one. So I believe it was a man made one with our UFOs and body suits

I think they got what they wanted from him and it being his semen

@@courtneymetoyer4406 If aliens wanted human semen all they need to do is create a semi-realistic female android.

He didn’t have any injuries.

@@tombreckinridge6218 Exactly! Despite the several witnesses reporting he was launched up to 20 feet from some kind of blast. I don't know about you, but no human would survive that without some internal damage, broken bones, lacerations, etc. But he was perfectly healthy?

@@Ryan-sf8nf I’m just saying it’s a fact he was checked out by a doctor right away and they didn’t find anything wrong with him. A clean bill of health. That’s a known fact, him getting beamed up into the sky and almost dead isn’t a known/provable fact.

Not gonna work

@@marcustulliuscicero9512 he’s gonna have to get trump on his podcast for me to turn on Spotify

It's working, but I'm resisting to further the better content by playing hard to get. 4D Chess, baby

@@MegaUtube99 that would be crazy. Yeah I would download Spotify for that

Right? Next he will bring Annie Jacobsen back... it’s in the book Joe

That's what I said Ronald..

Aye gotta look respectable to be able to pass off a lie

@@TheCosmicGuy0111 yes!! I feel like he’s full of shit.. like if he’s thinking “ok gotta remember wat I said last time (and every other time he’s said this bullshit) so ppl won’t think I’m ‘he’s’ lying”

@@erwinlopez8368 he is not lying. But it was kind of his fault, don't approach these crafts they emit very dangerous high energy and will KILL you dead! They were nice for helping him, not everyone would be so lucky.

A liar also

I have exactly zero interest in those vapid Car-crashion people, attention seeking idiots. *They have no credibility.*

It’s highly regarded as a hoax, even by firm UFO believers. He later said it was staged, but then took it back shortly after

"I had this trip once where a bunch of Jokers were circling me flipping the bird saying fuck fuck fuck you fuck you fuck fuck you! You the think the aliens experienced a trip like that?" -Joe Rogan

Hahahahahahahaha, I like his show but joe can be quite annoying and very two faced and fake at times. Perfect example is him with undertaker

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dead

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You’d believe anything 😂

@@perkosherrigh7243 earth is flat

@@perkosherrigh7243 it’s almost like it’s a joke 😳💡

It doesn't help that Joe is wearing an Annunaki space captain's gforce compression shirt..

Can you describe the ufo at all?

My mom and me seen one we used to live up in the mountains we were on a trampoline and out of now where we saw a disk with red lights come and hover above us and then my mom ran to get her camera and it straight up beamed off like supper fast blinked and it was gone.

Me and my friend in high school where on a sports trip for a state tournament, we smoked some weed went to bed heard a hummin and seen a bright light, then his music started playing I told him turn your music off and he said it was his alarm, what seemed like minutes of laying there was 8 hours I guess and we felt like shit all day.

I feel the same way. He takes his interviews seriously and I do appreciate his general approach. Much respect. Truthfully, if there was ever a reason for me to be a guest on this show, I might show up unshaven while wearing an undershirt and gym shorts. Maybe with the can of beer I hadn't finished the previous night. That would probably be my last appearance.

He fooled you didnt he? Lmao

Looks like had eye brows stache and head hair dyed to perfect match no grey

He could have taken a little more effort to get it fitted though

Lex Friedman

A complete liar it’s people like him that have the world the way it is

@@snowy1584 sorry man, but when my son died at 11 months, I had to recall with my eyes to the side. Call me a liar sir.....

@@lizahall2163 you're a liar.

@@jklman11 no wonder my dad knew i was lying when i was a kid 🤦🏻‍♂️

Also common with ASD. It's like the eyes take in too much information which makes speaking and processing language very difficult.

I'm sure he thought his acid trip was real.

​​@@paintspot1509clearly you've never done hallucinogenic drugs, you don't see aliens or spaceships or anything like it

a very poorly done one. he would not pass one now

@@dareal5401 he passed more than one, because the event truly occurred.

@@user-yb2qy6gu7x i believe that he believes his story.

The Ariel School encounter is a good one

do you really think it possible that spaceships are taking people and only 8 people who passed lie detectors.....know about it for sure??

@Jade Zee I know.. these people are so gullible that believe him. You think im gunna believe a word that comea from "military intelligence" that probably works with CIA.

@@joeselsbury543 well I can't believe is your ignorance at what was being discussed and military intelligence never came out of his mouth in a sense that that's something he was believing I worked on a couple of documentaries about Walton and the story is probably one of the most believable based on the fact that more than one person sought and nobody could explain how he was returned or what had happened to him medically so rather than just base your judgment on listening to what you heard on Joe rogan's podcast you should probably read a little more about what happened to this guy

What story? He didn’t even tell a story he rambled on the whole time 😂

Same here. As a kid, I had nightmares for a long time.

The part where the aliens remove his eye...

@@clydechestnut656 I hate that part the most

Same. Saw it in theater then went camping in flagstaff (about an hour or two from where this happened) the next day. It was creepy.

Dude that movie still scares me in my 30s! Definitely the most terrifying alien abduction scene ever

Clown.

Hahahaha he does kinda. Review bruh

Terribly underrated 😂😂

Which dude? Lol

Looks like a 60 yr old Alcoholic tin tin

Lol I thought he looked like Hitler but ok 😂

If Joe would say: "Okay, let's talk about something else entirely then, to not traumatize you", Travis would say: "Well, okay maybe I can tell you a little bit."

Psychologist =@@6feetunderpants

Well, what's the point.? That's what he's here for. Lol

@@6feetunderpants hahaha FACTS

That's what he's there for.

Hilarious? It's just slight variations of the same few jokes over and over.

@@brucewayne404 why did the chicken cross the road?

@@killisionblasto4774 Why?

@@killisionblasto4774 WHY????

@@brucewayne404 knock knock✊✊

Did they censor your content even tho the aliens said they would never do that?

Xdddddd

You are a clown

That's entirely possible.

It's hard to laugh when it is so serious. This is a clear and present danger to mankind

After all that probing, I'm just happy his still HAS balls at all.

Exactly, that would have been a lot better

What?! Wow! That was gracious of him to assist you and speak with you.

@@kaylaschroeder1 He was, and I found him to be so sincere and very believable. A good man for sure.

U should upload the recordings on here for us if u could

@@stevenarmstrong3799 Its on a micro tape I would have to record it onto my phone and then upload it from there.

@@alexandraburgess3534 why wouldnt you? Please do.

Attention. Clout. Money.

@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong namaste

His body language suggests he’s lying his ass off 😂

@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong He and his friends were literally losing money and reputation from this! You have to remember this was the 70s when this happened you couldn’t make a situation like this profitable back then! This man has absolutely zero reason to have lied for over 40 years

@@vibes1680 It makes him relevant. He can go to all the little alien conventions and get people to listen to him and respect him.

Holly shit 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Review brah

Brilliant

I'm his father

😆

I'd give my gramps props for sticking to the bit for 45 years lol

I've known some ww2 vets who've seen some things who hate talking about it

hes trying to constantly look to the the left the sign of someone not lying maybe he knows this and makes a point to look to the left when thinking so he dont look like a liar

@@DankAlchemist he passed multiple lie detector tests

Cool story bro. Accept that polygraphs are pseudo-scientific nonsense. Demonstrated over and over in actual scientific tests to be barely above chance in accuracy. But sure. Aliens.

Wow, KZfaq deleted my comment about media/government using latest coverage on UFO phenomenon AS A DISTRACTION. FROM WHAT I DON'T KNOW, CAN'T REALLY PIN POINT. But I feel at this point, we should be interviewing an alien at some Starbucks. You think? You know, close encounter of the 5th kind. What media is spitting out just a black dot on radar. What a joke!

Yeah polygraphs are bogus. I had to take a polygraph and it said I was lying when I was absolutely telling the truth.

Mentioning polygraph in any context other than 'they don't work' or 'are not admissible as evidence' is stupid.

@@WynnterGreen crazy how no one asked for your opinion. You have to be brain dead if you think we’re the only things in this universe.

Lmfao

😂😂😂underrated comment

Fax

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ReviewBrah: *tries Alien burger* ReviewBrah: "My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined."

Lmao except on jre talking about gang stalking

Wow... ha ha ha!

Thanks. And ouch

Those leg kicks are fuckin brutal

For real. If you're ever abducted by aliens and find yourself on an examination table with no clear beaker on a nearby shelf that you can use to defend yourself with, chop at their legs with calf kicks and fight your way to the escape pod hangar. Now, you'll know you're going the right way, because typically these are stationed on the docking part of the ship at the periphery. Alternatively, if you find yourself heading towards a more sophisticated looking area, you're likely heading towards the bridge. This will likely be heavily manned (or "alienned" as the technical term is since aliens don't have "men" in the traditional sense of the word), so make sure you use good head movement, and continue calf-kicking them until you get to the navigation panel. These LED-like displays will have a foreign language, but you will be able to intuitively interface with the contactless control scheme. Guide the ship to the nearest coastal town and try and crash land it smoothly where you can escape and swim to the shore. Now if the CIA (or NWO government spec ops) come to eliminate you, remember to leg kick them in between their armour -- those are the weak points. Just some advice so you can safely survive if (and when) this situation arises. A bit unrelated, but have you ever tried DMT?

@@aleksandarjovic4275 congratulations you have the talent to write Michael bay movie plots

@@cracksmoker1506 where’s the explosions though?

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Lmao😂

I see and appreciate what you did there 👍

Took me a sec... lmao

I agree

CIA?

Yeah legit was just thinking that lol

@@huko4266 defo drugs.

Yeah he sucks at explaining things

Is he a congressman?

The roadman in Ilford scared the aliens away

@@eedeatlikkle3652 ‘attack the block’ in real life

Bruh, Im from leytonstone, london. When I was about the same aga, but in the 00's. I saw this circular disk with a light in the middle, hovering above wanstead flats. I still don't know what that was!

I and a friend saw one too when we were eleven years old near our town where we grew up. It was a disc shaped object sitting above as though it was watching us watching it for probably 15 seconds or so. With no warning it suddenly zipped up and was gone. I’ve rarely talked about it, obvious reasons. I believe Travis and his coworker’s. Perhaps one day we all will know. If “they” want us to know and we are ready for such a life altering event. Only time will tell.

What you saw was father Christmas testing his new whip I always think it's funny people think a civilization would travel all this way to do you a mad light and flight display to whip off home 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what happened was you drank uncle bhundas special drink and was tripping balls

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I know right. That and the tv show Sightings scared the crap out of me.

I just mentioned to my mom that she let me see it in the theater and I was like 10 or 11. I had just watched it again and was like WTF she let me watch this????

@@jakelancey4769 same I remember as a kid my mom laughing at me for me finding it so scary. Rewatched it recently and am just like WTF

War of the worlds from 2005 is honestly the only movie that I have reoccurring nightmares about.

That delicious brown sludge they fed him looked satisfying

He's consumed by his own lie, so deep you can barely hear his voice.

@@mewkatlol hes failed lie detectors. and he can never produce any of the 'MRI/EEG results' and whatever else he always claims.

@@mewkatlol it’s almost like it’s his first time talking about this to a big audience. Plus with all the trauma I’d be hard for me to look someone in the eyes too

Yeah, he's as boring as his dumb movie.

This had me dying 😭😭😭😭

So it’s just every few people that claim they were kidnapped by intergalactic beings, fought them with a metal pole and escaped their spaceship then? Just a few of them that are telling the truth? Clown. It’s proven it was a hoax already do your research before posting nonsense.

Uh um lol

« It seems like he doesn’t want to keep reliving it... » the guy has been on every interview

Scared the piss outta me too as a kid lol

doesn’t wanna keep reliving it yet he’s going on podcasts 😂😂 he’s a con artist can’t believe ppl fall for this stuff

@@bernieralexandre1107 Why do you think? Moneyyyy

ask him when will the aliens take over

Lollll a real no nonsense person 😂😂😂

These comments 👎🏻 nothing about this man says liar to me. People have become so distrusting of anything and everything but mostly of themselves.

@@Theassemblagestyle lol stfu guy talking about abduction and aliens

@@bernieralexandre1107 you probably think the Russians did it, huh?

bruuuh this comment section

Only one to actually make me laugh

Ay yo, pump this comment up the ladder people lol

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@@jameshowlett1251 👍

Facts!!

Same man 😂

Same, every night for years I was just waiting to get taken.

Those ugly scary mean looking alien faces 👽

maple... syrup...

I'm always terrified of big foot BBC raper

Some gravity falls shit fr

Missing 411

you aren't native. be quiet.

@@lastraven7205 cringe

That’s the hair dye 😂

This so true, first thing I thought.

Kinda reminds me of the older version of 5 lol

No, he looks like your crazy neighbour

Circa 1979

Except Fire in the Sky is nothing like Travis's account.

I definitely agree! He comes across as a very humble man who has experienced a trauma that has defined the rest of his life! It’s crazy a majority of people who are making fun of him have never met someone with true PTSD!

Well said. It’s also not uncommon for people having to remember and retell a story, to look off and stare at nothing, while the memory replays in their minds. These people are confusing things like police murder interrogations etc with retelling a trauma. I’m not sure what I think about UFO abductions, but do know all the people in that truck have had the exact same story for years and that later police reports were released from the same day, from other people, some they didn’t know, reporting something off, that all fit in perfectly with Walton and co-workers filed reports and story to this day.

How is your statement so confident when you use probably? Probable doesn't make it true, as much as you believe otherwise. "This is a story you've told so many times" I will probably win a Lottery. By your opinion, i will with the greatest confidence and guarantee. Telling a story you've told 100s of times before and each question shows probability he's lying. Um, uh um, uh with very basic statements. Hmmmmm

@@onemic187 I used Probably because I am not 100% certain. How can I be 100% certain? lol.

An introvert would presumably avoid the interview in the first place. He stumbles, avoids eye contact, avoids detail and goes off on random tangents because he is lying. He says in the interview that he's had a number of ufo encounters and sightings, of all different shapes. Do you believe that too?

A liar that doesn't want his fraud and changing story to be discovered. That's who wouldn't want to revisit it. That and he was going to lose his logging contract for the area and all the money the forest service still owed him unless an act of god could nullify the contract... Cue the UFO literally one day before the contract deadline. And his 1971 conviction for stealing and forging checks... If I were him I wouldn't want to remember it either

You do know that his entire career and livelihood is based around revisiting that night right

Michael Rodgers and Travis Walton pleaded guilty to stealing and forging checks. They accepted a deal to have their records cleared after making restitution. Walton was described by friends as a "UFO freak" and they said he was obsessed with the topic almost his entire life. There was a financial motive. Rodgers had a contract with the US Forest Service and had underbid the contract significantly. The project was behind schedule after already being granted an extension. Penalty was one dollar per acre per agreed deadline to completion. The abduction took place 5 days after completion deadline and a new penalty was about to be imposed on the contract. The Forestry Service was holding ten percent of payments until the job was completed. It was going into winter and Rodgers would have been delayed until spring to complete the project. After the abduction, Rodgers said he and his men would be afraid to enter the forest again and asked to have the contract terminated. That is exactly what happened 13 days after the incident. The withheld payments were given to Rodgers and another company took over the project. 2 weeks before the incident, NBC televised the famous abduction account of Barney and Betty Hill. Travis watched it and so did his coworkers. His family didn't seem upset about Travis being missing and wanted to give up the search early. His brother said he wasn't worried about it because "aliens alwavs return abductees in time".

@@littleoldmanboy Also surely you'd want to remember such an out of this world experience; nothing else in your life would compare to the intensity and absurdity of that night!

Exactly. Such an honest response to a traumatic event--you *dont* go back mentally to relive it.

RIP. Every time he avoids moving forward in the story to the actual abduction, do a push-up

@ValCronin how to turn into the hulk in minutes

Was too pissed to do a pushup

Charismatic and calm people can fool just about anyone. Especially the naïve and gullible

So genuine? The one time he took a properly administered lie detector test, he failed it hard lmao.

@@pamew source?

One of the witnesses made this statement in March of 2021.....“I, Michael H. Rogers, being of sound and rational mind, do hereby give notice that I am no longer to be considered a witness to Travis C. Walton’s supposed abduction of November 5, 1975.” “I have been waiting a very long time to say this... I am very tired of holding this in."

@@marconotplayinn8015 The national enquirer hired Jack Mccarthy the most experienced Polygraph examiner in arizona. 1. His findings returned a verdict of GROSS DECEPTION 2. Mccarthy caught Travis intentionally holding his breath before answering which skews the stress response testing mechanisms involved 3. Phillip klass now unfortunately deceased who investigated Walton was shown Waltons test results which showed Travis' blood pressure spike when asked questions which match the same time Walton held his breath 4. Mccarthy violated a NDA to tell the truth as opposed to staying silent to protect himself 5. Mccarthy discovered Walton used speed (frequently to which he indicated himself by describing his end of work state as amped up which is unheard of for a logger), marajuana and LSD 6. Walton was found to have committed theft and forgery of pay roll checks 5 years earlier

Braaaaa I love these stories , cause that means we all seen one , I seen one up close when I was 18, and yes there was red pulsing lights coming from the bottom , disc shaped, and the engine was totally silent , when it flew away it went like 20,000 miles per hour or more , you definitely seen one

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Bahahahahahha *crying*😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

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A very buff version of the alien

Haha

@James D, writer of Fahrenheit 1984 Someone needs too have David Fravor, Travis Walton and Bob Lazar all on at the same time. That would be a very interesting conversation.

@@bomanidaalchemist5801 Lazar and Fravor would have an interesting conversation. Walton would drag his words just to say hello. xD

@James D, writer of Fahrenheit 1984 Travis was seventies, Lazar was late eighties.

@ absolutely. This guy was pretty thoroughly discredited.

Got to this comment exactly as he said that

Please share any details?!?

Why do you bring up “ being a Native American “? What kind of importance does that play in your comment? Does it make you feel important?

@@alviglez7349 I said it just for you

Because he wants to give credit to the stories of his people. Nothing wrong with that.

@@humbertothebeliever2443 so only native Americans live in AZ? It’s irrelevant is like me saying being African I can tell you that lions eat meat. Like no one else have seen lions before. UFO’s and being “Native American “ living in AZ have absolutely nothing to do with each other. He only brought it up so people could be like WOW you’re Native American???? You’re so coolllll 😂😂😂😂

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I've got a bridge to sell you...

​@@TheFrenchPugIt is credible look it up

This interview had countless signs of deception. Id bet my business he is instead a sociopathic pathological liar. Both are mental disorders that he can get help with too. It's not his fault.

​Frankie Gonzalez but what about the other 5 that all all passed lie detector test on even the Start when they seen the craft and seen travis get hit with some beam or whatever ?

@@shaunb8443 source?

​@shaunb8443 dude there's no such thing as a lie detector test. It's called a polygraph and it does NOT detect lies. "Lie detector" is a misnomer. Just FYI.

@forwardmoving8252 well yeah but commonly known as a lie detector test. Yes these "polygraphs" have flaws and can only imagine even more back then, however, to some degree would indicate some level of truth. Lies , raise heart rates , blood pressure , clammyness of skin /sweat glands whatever else. So considering they passed this indicating that no lies where told, surely holds some weight, no?