Note to the Project Manager: Looks like an awesome product but a deal breaker for many people. Why did Garmin decide to go to MURS (Multi-use radio service) that no one else uses?! That is a VHF band radio that does not even pair with their own handheld Garmin Rhino which uses the UHF GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service)! That band is the standard now for many off roaders including Jeepers, Overlanders, and more recently SxS, ATV and MC. Further, there are loads of GMRS radios available and nearly no MURS! MURS is limited to 2 watts, and GMRS can go up to 50 watts. So not only does the 2 way radio, but also the great polling or car-to-car location feature not work with the $500 Garmin Rhinos some of us have, nor any of the VHF Race radios or GMRS many SxS's have from Rugged Radios, PCI Race Radios, and others! And, from what I understand, the Tread is not compatible with Polaris Ride Command or the Yamaha products. In short, it appears it does not work with anything other than another Garmin Tread. I don't think others are going to scrap their $2500 systems and run to Garmin. I have long been a Garmin fan and have many of their GPS units. Very disappointing on what otherwise looks like a terrific product...

For 20 years we hunters and hikers have been purchasing the Garmin Rino units. These use the UHF GMRS frequencies, why would Garmin now switch to VHF MURS frequencies. We have asked Garmin for years to allow the Rino to use external antennas for the GMRS radio. Now they’ve come up with a completely incompatible radio communications system. Doesn’t Garmin realize that the Rino users are the same customer base as the ATV/UTV off road riders. What am I supposed to do, shelve my $600.00 Rino and now go out and purchase a $800-$1,400 Tread system. Garmin should produce a GMRS version of the Tread.

so whats the difference now between the SxS and overland edition?

I was curious about the wireless camera issue. I called Garmin and was initially told the Wireless BC 40 was compatible with this new SxS GPS. I was later told by a potential customer that the BC 40 is NOT compatible. I recontacted Garmin support and they confirmed the BC 40 will not work but they were coming out with a new camera. Is there any idea when this will happen? Having a backup camera on my rig (X3) is vital.

Are all those maps predownloaded? With the overlander you have to download them for each area and if you are out of cell reception you can not download them.

Everything else looks great. But MURS is almost useless, you need the subscription service to get any real communication. If it had GMRS, I would be the first inline.

No GMRS, no deal