UPDATE: I have made a 2022 version of this video. Correction to video: The Dual Sport 1 actually uses a freewheel, not a cassette. Cassettes are typically lighter, more expensive, and more upgradable.
@gulfcitynd4 жыл бұрын
Both use a freewheel
@Not_Sure_4 жыл бұрын
Why are they using freewheel? That's like a Walmart/Target bike. I'm sure they work. I guess these bikes are for the typical "mom/dad types".
@arbjful4 жыл бұрын
For a freewheel I think the bike is a bit expensive. I understand this is intended to be commuter bike with some light mountain biking. The configuration seems perfect for a gravel bike.
@gsdubz99313 жыл бұрын
I mean is this a deal-breaker? In the market now and have gone as far as creating a spreadsheet to sort out all the differences. I think I have OCD! Mechanical vs hydraulic. Tourney vs Acera etc. It's making me crazy! The best part? I can't even find any of these bikes b/c of the pandemic.
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
@@gulfcitynd Actually the Marlin 5 uses a cassette!
@zTheBigFishz4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a DS 3 and love it. I already own a 2nd gen Domane SLR6 and a 2012 Madone. I got the DS for 3 reasons. 1. Riding with my wife when she rides her Townie. My other two bikes are just too fast plus I have to get all kitted up to ride them, so easier spur of the moment type riding with the Mrs. 2. I like just deciding to ride a bike in the way I did as a kid, just hop and ride around for a while...the DS is great for that. 3. Gravel, dirt roads, and light trails. I don't have an interest in technical mountain biking but I do like to buzz down fire roads, gravel roads, and the like. If it weren't for 1 & 2 I would have just gotten a gravel bike. For me the DS satisfies many of my personal requirements. Its a fun bike that isn't too fussy...just hop on a go for a spin.
@marcusandersonsrevenge4 жыл бұрын
I got my Trek Marlin 5 a few days ago. Best bike I’ve ever owned. Thank you for these videos.
@thesingletrackslacker85914 жыл бұрын
Love mine too. Accidentally went down some stairs that I thought was a ramp yesterday at a new park...It did fine. Chain didn't even fly off!
@rickysekhon57063 жыл бұрын
Here in India we have booking for 6 months 😭
@CooperxH3 жыл бұрын
Does the grip shape effect your riding on the trail?
@BMOutdoorz3 жыл бұрын
@@CooperxH The Marlin 5 does not have a grip shift
@xxacidwinterxx3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2021 DS1 after not riding a bike for over 20 years and I fell in love with cycling. I’ve had it for a little over 2 months now and have put almost 500 miles on it.
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@gustavopaulette34963 жыл бұрын
That’s nothing. I put 500 miles a week
@nawaal44523 жыл бұрын
@@gustavopaulette3496 not so subtle flex 🤭
@TA-rr1bf3 жыл бұрын
I agree! I haven’t ridden a bike in around 15 years and when I jumped on the DS2 today it just felt so natural and right. Before riding that I tried a Talon 1 and a Roam 4. Roam 4 because they didn’t have any other Roam, was more just for a feel and for me the DS blew them both out the water. Kind of regret not trying the Marlin though as that was on my list as well. But after riding the DS I kind of forgot about it 😅 Can’t wait till I pick it up tomorrow!
@MadGunny2 жыл бұрын
@@gustavopaulette3496 wow, you’re so cool
@eBikerHowie4 жыл бұрын
Once again, great vid. This is exactly what I do with the customers in the store. Show the DS first, then sell them on the Marlin 5 or 6. The Marlin 6 is a great deal for $650. All the gears you need to ride on road and off. Plus you can actually use it for trail riding. However, after showing my customers the Marlin 6, I usually end up selling them the 2021 Roscoe 6. A little more money but so much value. Tubeless tires, dropper seatpost, bigger tires, better suspension, 1x drivetrain, etc. Thanks again for a great vid.
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate your comments as someone who works in a bike store; and I’m glad you’re liking the videos!
@thesingletrackslacker85914 жыл бұрын
I really wish I had got the Roscoe.. My MARLIN is kinda pushing it for what I ride. It was the only hardtail left in March
@nomaanalwi94954 жыл бұрын
How's the roscoe for the road?
@eBikerHowie4 жыл бұрын
@@nomaanalwi9495 just fine. It's still a bike. It will go wherever you go. I don't think I'd want to commute 20 miles a day on it, but it will do it. And comfortably.
@tardxcore4 жыл бұрын
You said the Roscoe 6 is a little more money? It’s damn double the price of a marlin 6. You must be quite the salesman lol
@cedricbethea3583 жыл бұрын
Great detailed video. The Marlin series is the best value under $700. Every single part can be upgraded. I'm pleased with how rugged my Marlin 6 is in all weather especially rain and snow. Its a great hill climbing bike too. This bike has made me physically stronger and a better rider. I would highly recommend the Marlin series.
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@kayakerjer3 жыл бұрын
I have a 29er like the Marlin, but put on skinnied-down 40mm tires with a more road-friendly tread. This has proven to be the perfect combination for me: efficient for on-road but with a better suspension to handle rougher trails when I want to.
@buddy71364 жыл бұрын
I bought the marlin 7 2019. I bought a set of the narrow gravel tires to change out for the type of riding. Making my marlin a true dual sport in my opinion.
@santillanmusic3 жыл бұрын
How is the narrower set working for you? I have a marlin 6 2017 and looking at used Dual Sport 1 2020 for 575.00 as my second bike. I may just slap on some narrow gravel tires on my Marlin and call it a day...
@trackmedixuk3 жыл бұрын
Did it make a difference to the speed ?
@buddy71363 жыл бұрын
@@trackmedixuk I am by no means racing but in my opinion they corner better, accelerate faster and it is easier to maintain speed for longer distances than the knobby tires.
@buddy71363 жыл бұрын
@@santillanmusic sorry missed the comment. The gravel tires hold up great. Long pavement will chew up the knobs on your dirt tires. Mine are bontrager gr1 team issue 700×40. You will need a different tube to fit the gravel tire as also. But at the cost of a little extra work the tires are cheaper and take less space than a second bike.
@trackmedixuk3 жыл бұрын
@@buddy7136 I have the Marlin 6 but am thinking about returning it for the Duel sport 2. The marlin seems to be really slow, doe's not maintain speed and the seat is like sitting on a brick.
@zogomez79942 жыл бұрын
*Looked at a lot of options for getting my **Latest.Bike** . Great find in SAVA. Super light, nice components, really good value as it comes with many options only found in much higher priced bikes.*
@edmundgil60084 жыл бұрын
First time viewer. This video was awesome! I own a Marlin 5, and bought it on a whim, just because I love bikes! (Bike #5) I am so glad I did! It is such a good road fitness bike. I can’t get over how FAST it is on pavement. I ride my Marlin on 25-35 mile rides through our park & river bike paths, and always extend my ride up to the Friant Dam here in Fresno, California. It’s a bit of a tank up the hills, but the gearing is low enough to make it up! I just love it. A great all-around bike for literally anyone!
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Nice!! Thanks for watching, and I love to hear stories like that about people loving their bikes :) I have the same one!
@reinhardtviljoen56974 жыл бұрын
I just went out and bought the trek marlin 5 after this video
@Eric-pt4jj4 жыл бұрын
How though they’re all out of stock
@reinhardtviljoen56974 жыл бұрын
@@Eric-pt4jj I got the last on they had in a xxl size
@oneightsven23714 жыл бұрын
Same here had to preorder mine got 3 weeks ago
@louis98564 жыл бұрын
Eric Kashkevych that’s what I thought lol
@techytech14 жыл бұрын
I paid for mine about 4 weeks ago.. (factory orange Lg frame)... It's supposed to get here this week..
@dtroit24 жыл бұрын
Well this made my decision. Going for Dual Sport over the Marlin.
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@adhi_r4 жыл бұрын
No stocks anywhere
@clkgtr124 жыл бұрын
Good choice Hal
@aroindustries48953 жыл бұрын
I'm torn. The video convinced me when I watched earlier this week I should get Dual Sport when I was fully in on MTB. I probably ride trails 10% of time. From reading through the comments it looks like people prefer Marlin for all usage. Help
@gsdubz99313 жыл бұрын
@@aroindustries4895 did you decide on either? I'd say go for the Marlin, which is probably better to ride on pavement than the DS is to ride on rough terrain. I went back and forth as well. Planning on a Marlin 7, just waiting on it to become available.
@wvjeepguy81784 жыл бұрын
I wanted a dual sport, but found a 2021 Marlin 7 in stock 5 hours away. Got on the phone as soon as the shop opened up and paid em for it. Looks like I'll be taking a road trip Saturday!
@andresvelasco7074 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to find the last Marlin 7 2021 in Bogota last thursday, seems the bike frenzy is worldwide.... After 75 kms at plain pavement today I feel the 28T is way small if you intend wether commuting or go 60% road 40% on trails as this is my case nowadays... Some sales guy told me to shift to X caliber 8....
@harrygrimley43524 жыл бұрын
What did you end up spending for it?
@wvjeepguy81784 жыл бұрын
$840...retail pricing
@wvjeepguy81784 жыл бұрын
Yep...i run out of gear way too easily. Can only top out at around 25mph on flat ground. Pretty disappointing.
@kwaktak4 жыл бұрын
Thx for the comparison. Now I’m not regretting getting a 2019 Marlin 7 over a DS2.
@aroindustries48953 жыл бұрын
Neil K Walk why? I’m considering DS4 or a Marlin.
@greg.peepeeface3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the smartest videos I have seen on categorizing the bikes, and i think Trek owes you for this one
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you!! I appreciate that :)
@greg.peepeeface3 жыл бұрын
Talalipop MTB I’ve built company’s and have done product marketing for the automotive aftermarket for the last 30+ years, and I would’ve been super happy to find a creator of your caliber. Keep up the good work.
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
I’m flattered!! That means a lot to hear!
@francislaxamana87054 жыл бұрын
Nice presentation and comparison.Hope to get my Trek Marlin 5 here in the Philippines’s 😃
@stick2dapoint884 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. Sure helped me make a decision... I'm looking to upgrade from my current hybrid and wasn't sure if I wanted to go with another hybrid vs full mountain bike that also rides well on the road. I'm a casual, fitness rider, and I don't go on any trails (yet); I just do laps around town but it can get bumpy in certain areas. I prefer hybrid's over road bikes because it's a bit more comfortable & robust. However (like I mentioned), these bikes are so similar that I wasn't sure if I could get away with getting the Marlin for the off-road capabilities but still using it primarily on the road. After watching this vid, think I'll stick with hybrid and go with the Dual Sport.
@Matasky20102 жыл бұрын
If you don't go on ANY trails it should be an obvious decision.
@CristianHernandez-mz5xp4 жыл бұрын
I'd say with the marlin for the same price you get a wider range of activities. It is true that dual sport weighs less but it is also due to the tires mostly. The freeweel cassette only has 14 teeth at its fastest, while the marlin has 12 teeth, seems little different but it is a big difference. Also you can always buy better cassettes that are much more durable and lighter than freewheel cassettes. It has hydraulic brakes which are generally better than mechanical ones, because you basically need to adjust them periodically and if you do commuting it can be a bit boring. Personally I also find the marlin cokpit an advantage. Its levers are separate and in the dual sport not. In case of failure, you have to change two pieces instead of one. With the marlin cokpit you can always replace them one by one even with different brands. The same thing happens if you want to change to a monoplate, you only need to remove one lever. Even with the marlin you can change the tire for a thinner tire, reducing its weight equally and adapting it to the road for commuting and with dual sport, I doubt it. I would say this in general: Only if you want a bike to use casually would you choose the dual sport. If you want a bike for the future with a range of uses beyond commuting, the marlin is much better because of its better compatibility. Summary. Dual sport: Use only for commuting and not much else. Marlin: Use for commuting and a little bit more . By the way great video, I hope you keep doing more so that you transmit the information very nicely. Gracias!
@robertkyawmyintoo4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. I normally use (27.5*1.75") slick tyre for downtown commuting and swap back the original (27.5*2.4") mtb tyre for the weekend trail on my marlin 7. Absolutely loving it. ^^ Greeting from Yangon, Myanmar.
@swift71694 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing your expertise. I am trying to get back into bicycling and had no idea it was this complicated. As kids we just got on a bike and had fun with it. In fact, we didn't always have brakes at all and if you didn't want people to ask to ride your bike you just took the seat off and rode it standing up. Just hope to goodness you don't forget that you don't have a seat LOL!! Once I go back to work I intend on commuting with my bike but I also want the versatility to be able to go on some trails as well so understanding more about the Marlin made it more appealing to me. Being that both have suspension what does that entail as far as maintenance is concerned?
@CristianHernandez-mz5xp4 жыл бұрын
@@swift7169 Well, the only major difference between the two bikes is basically that one has mechanical and one has hydraulic brakes. However, if you're looking for simplicity in maintenance, I'd say Marlin 5 with the cassette. The freewheel (which is not the same as the cassette) is much simpler to change but much harder to clean. In fact you should not put water inside it because the grease in the bearings will be lost. Also the hydraulic brake does not need much maintenance, just replace the brake pads and fluid at least every year. The mechanical brake should be checked monthly for pads and cables, especially if they are exposed. I would say that the Marlin 5 is more reliable.
@shashankranganath57454 жыл бұрын
Great comment!! You cleared my confusion. Thanks a lot!!
@ShantaKarunaratne4 жыл бұрын
Cristian Hernández very useful comment as I have ordered a Marlin 6 and was wondering about replacing the knobby tires to accommodate riding mostly on road. Much appreciated.
@gunube3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are excellent. You cover the nuts and bolts without getting stuck in the weeds or offering too many opinions or preferences. Great job parleying the comparison groupings so they make sense, as well. Thank you Sir.
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Thank you too!! I appreciate that a lot :)
@aroindustries48953 жыл бұрын
I'm torn. The video convinced me when I watched earlier this week I should get Dual Sport when I was fully in on MTB. I probably ride trails 10% of time. From reading through the comments it looks like people prefer Marlin for all usage.
@JessicaSimonson19763 жыл бұрын
Yep I ride trails about 25% 75% on road and my 2020 Marlin 5 works......on my other mountain bike I have done river crossing almost at full speed where the trail is separated by a river....the parks department has buried logs on the river bottom in shallows to give you that traction.
@cedricbethea3583 жыл бұрын
The Marlin series can take a lot of punishment on or off road. Its a all weather bike as well. I would highly recommend the Marlin series for work and play. This is my review after having a Marlin 6 since 2017.
@midnightshade322 жыл бұрын
Depends. Dual sport is way faster on road. If you plan on mire road then trail the dually is the way to go. Trail riding more, marlin. Just from my test drive the other day, it was night and day difference.
@JessicaSimonson19763 жыл бұрын
I commute to work on the Marlin 5, 14.5 miles one way 29 miles a day about a 1 mile stretch is trails .....but mostly road travel. Yes even in December....here in Wisconsin. The dual sport wouldn't make it in winter here. Thankfully so far this year I have only faced ice...no snow, but up to 35 mile an hour head winds. Which adds to the commute time.....lol.
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
That’s impressive!! Definitely some proof of the marlin’s versatility :D
@JessicaSimonson19763 жыл бұрын
@@TalalipopMTB I have my Marlin set up with Rock Brother grips, profile design bar ends, aluminum pedals with toe cages, lights, 2 water bottles, rear rack, trunk bag, upgraded suspension seat, kickstand, lock, and handle bar extender for a later GPS unit, mirror.
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
@@JessicaSimonson1976 Pretty decked out!!
@JessicaSimonson19763 жыл бұрын
@@TalalipopMTB just to make the 29 mile round trip commute easier during my night travel seeing I work 3rd shift.
@Mike-cz2yw2 жыл бұрын
Weird I use a DS2 in the winter in... Canada. No problem too..
@bacard10023 жыл бұрын
Great video. You answered everything without talking about specs that we dont need to know about to make a good decision. In my case, I want a marlin 6, but need a DS3. I ride mostly on roads but like how strong mountain bikes are when I need it. Getting a marlin 6. Thanks again
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Glad I could help :D
@CCsnrs4 жыл бұрын
Marlin 6. I use it both on the road & trails.
@SirHilary14 жыл бұрын
I work in a bicycle 🚲 shop part time and inherited a 2016 Dual Sport with no wheels. It has some minor bottom frame damage but is mainly cosmetic and I've just spent the afternoon using some professional car body filler and paint. Not perfect but looks good and will be hidden by the front chain set. In all I'm spending about £200 to restore this neglected bike to get it back on the road. The 2020 module is not much different than the 2016 in terms of spec. Your video was very helpful for me and it will be perfect for my needs 👍🙏
@hurt17042 жыл бұрын
Since you work in a bike shop, you might be able to answer this. I have a 21 dual sport 3 and want to upgrade the drive components (chain, sprockets etc) to the 22 dual sport 3 1 x10. Any idea if this could be done and how expensive it would be?
@andrewhaas86144 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I was looking for some info comparing the two. Thanks for your videos, they are concise and informative - well done!
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that :)
@reggiesanders1284 Жыл бұрын
This review is most timely. I previously was a roadie for over a decade and decided to try the Trek Marlin 5 because new Road Bikes are now out of my price range. The Marlin is obviously heavier but smoother and I don’t have to look for every nook and cranny in the roadway - but-it-was-expectedly-slow. The Dual Sport or FX Sport 4 ($1,799.99) and FX 6 ($2,799) are both Carbon, have more speed and is somewhere in the middle on smoothness but you are in a much more upright position. Choices, choices!
@freeziree4 жыл бұрын
A few months ago I got the 2020 version dual sport 3. And its comfortable on road and not much going off road . And punctured my tube 3 to 4 for times 😂😂.
@maxebutler44723 жыл бұрын
I am going to upgrade from a bmx bike to a mountain bike and this review really helped me after my friend told me to get hybrid. Think i'm getting mountain
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@codyshoemaker41563 жыл бұрын
If you can get a 2021 marlin 7
@timotheyszczepanski66444 жыл бұрын
basically, dual sport is better for road and commuting and the marlin is better for being a very entry level mtb
@JessicaSimonson19763 жыл бұрын
Trust me the Marlin works better in winter than the dual sport especially here in Wisconsin....lol
@Liljon19833 жыл бұрын
I was up in the air on what trek bike these were the 2 i was thinking now i have finally made my mind up because of this review thanks so much.
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Glad I could help :)
@dm65254 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos! They are well done. The Trek Marlin 5 was a good bike for me as i started MTBing again. The road or paved trails it was very good in speed and fun. On medium off road trails it was a nice ride as well. It only lasted about a year and the crank and derailer started to break regularly. They are also hard to replace because of the 8/9 cassette is rarer and only the Acera level offer replacement for the tourney... you cant put on a Deore without replacing the cassette. The frame is excellent though as well as the seat and breaks. I would get the highest marlin next time as a beginner bike because the lower end drive train components are not worth it in heavy use.
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Unfortunate to hear about those parts wearing out, but i’m glad you’re enjoying the bike in general despite that! I was planning to upgrade my drivetrain eventually as well when things got worn out.
@Jesus-eb8yk4 жыл бұрын
Nice Im a beginner looking for on getting a trail bike, this really helps. Nice video.
@aroindustries48953 жыл бұрын
Jesus what did you go with?
@Jesus-eb8yk3 жыл бұрын
I GOT A TREK 4..
@THEDARE420113 жыл бұрын
@@Jesus-eb8yk I am planning to get one is it worth it?
@mnbvcxzzxcvbnm3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Really appreciate your efforts and time for making this video. It is really helpful. One suggestion: Please include a verdict section, so that viewers can get to know what you personally think about the bikes you cimparing. Thanks again. 🔥
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Thank you too! I started doing that in my recent videos and will continue to do that now :)
@nitrane4 жыл бұрын
Once again great video! Would love to see a Giant Talon comparison...😊
@santillanmusic3 жыл бұрын
Great Video, Thanks for the breakdown! I own a 2017 Marlin 6 and test rode a 2020 Dual sport 1 recently, and the DS1 felt easier to ride. The geometry on the DS1 felt better for my body type.
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@ImportedFromSerbia2 жыл бұрын
DS1 is not for off road, especially if path is wet or so. Tires are not for that type of terrain. M6 is different player, but lack smoother ride on pavement.
@davidnelson68933 жыл бұрын
We just picked one in Turlock,Ca. Red with white size large dual sport
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@sousuke.higashi2 жыл бұрын
I ordered the Marlin 5. Great video.
@TalalipopMTB2 жыл бұрын
Thank you :D and good choice!
@Gmny1MOA4 жыл бұрын
Me and my aunt bought both of these bikes...I was in the market for a road or gravel bike so i got the ds1 bc i am using it strictly for fitness on rough surface slag asphalt roads w some potholes and patchwork areas...its the best route around me for fitness w a number of steep hills coming and going...my aunt bought the 650 dollar marlin whatever # it is idk....I'm interested to see how they perform...we have to wait for them to be assembled and go pick them up this week...I've been doing the 6 mile route for a month now on a 15 yr old 50$ Walmart schwinn so I'm sure the cheapest thing at Walmart present day is prolly alot better than what I've been suffering on these past weeks let alone something like these treks...I'm pretty excited ab it
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Nice!! That should be a fun way to compare those bikes, and yeah they'll both definitely perform better than that bike you have now.
@scottblues23322 жыл бұрын
These videos are awesome! Very precise explanations! As a beginner, thanks a lot!
@TalalipopMTB2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! So glad they helped out :)
@ummey4 жыл бұрын
I actually wanted this video before purchasing my new bike! I just did a video on my channel on the new 2021 Trek Marlin 6!
@tmayberry75594 жыл бұрын
No matter which bike you choose the DS or the Marlin you can always switch the tires and put mountain bike tires and road bike tires on either because the rim size is the same
@kathryngeorgakopoulos67223 жыл бұрын
Would the speed significantly increase on the Marlin if you put road tires on it?
@tmayberry75593 жыл бұрын
@@kathryngeorgakopoulos6722 yes
@kathryngeorgakopoulos67223 жыл бұрын
@@tmayberry7559 thanks for responding so quickly!
@tmayberry75593 жыл бұрын
@@kathryngeorgakopoulos6722 in fact I have found using two different tire sizes is better A smaller one on the front and a larger one in back usually within 3mm. The back tire will give you more traction and will act as a rear shock while the front will give you a more aerodynamic profile. Hope that helps
@kathryngeorgakopoulos67223 жыл бұрын
@@tmayberry7559 good to know! thank you!
@lifewithsebastian45343 жыл бұрын
U are awesome thanks for that easy explaining saludos from Mexico 🇲🇽 good day bro ...new follower
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nathanmunir4 жыл бұрын
Dude great videos. Thanks to your multiple videos, I figured out what I wanted best and bought a Marlin 6! It's coming in 3 days!!
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Nice!! Hope you like it!
@bplotts14 жыл бұрын
I bought the X-Caliber 7 after watching this video
@rdviper964 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've been looking for a direct comparison video between the 2 styles and you provided it! To be more specific on the models, though, I'm looking directly at the DS2 vs Marlin 6. Initially, I thought I was going to just be primarily a rails to trails / street rider w/the occasional off-road dirt trail but this summer has taught me I may need a little more than just a road-centric bike. My biggest concern, however, is comfort as I have some back and neck issues and my current mtb showed me that leaning forward for too long just causes a lot of pain there as well as on my wrists. I guess I won't know which is the better choice till I actually get to test either out but I've been leaning toward the DS2. I just need a bike shop near me to actually get some bikes in. Last time I called, they told me they weren't getting new ones till August. Your video has me getting the phone ready to call and see if any shipped early! Thanks again for the vids! Great content!
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! And yeah it’s really unfortunate but my local bike shops are pretty picked clean at the moment too. But definitely test riding both is crucial to figuring out exactly how they feel. I appreciate the comment and support!
@rdviper964 жыл бұрын
@@TalalipopMTB I went w/the DS3 primarily because I was able to get it immediately despite having to travel over 2 hours away to the store that had it! Love the bike and after sitting on a Marlin for a few minutes, glad I made the decision I did. It's been a great bike and I'm still watching your other comparison videos. Very informative! An idea to think about for future stuff would be accessories or upgrades you can do w/different series of bikes. For example, I'd like to look at getting slightly wider tires for my bike someday but I'm not sure what the max would be that would fit. Anyway, thanks again! Keep up the great work!
@c19commander444 жыл бұрын
The Marlin 5 is not for long distance,unless you change the 29 size tires and adds smaller tires.700 tires.
@hieubui51222 жыл бұрын
thank you for your videos, after watching your videos I will go for Marlin 5. I'm just focusing on commute road (usually I ride for 30km every night) - but the street I'm riding they have a lot of speed bumps + potholes. I think that wheels on dual sport will be intolerable for those bumps and holes above
@TalalipopMTB2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! And that does sound like a good decision :)
@Osscar123563 жыл бұрын
Its rainint at home and im bored so just watching your videos 😁
@ohjosejose66924 жыл бұрын
Had to watch this over and over before I decided on something else at the end lol
@michaelmaaba54634 жыл бұрын
what did you end up getting? I'm so torn HAHAHAHA
@anaisanais894 жыл бұрын
I've been seriously stumped on whether to get the verve 1 disc, the Marlin 5 or the dual sport 1. Thank you for this video because I think I just ruled out the ds-1.
@jeremiahlugrain84634 жыл бұрын
If you get a verve at least get the verve 2, has suspension in the seat and adjustable handlebars. If you get dualsport, at least get the dualsport 2. It has a lockout for front suspension so when on a flat road it rides a lot better, and better components.
@anaisanais894 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahlugrain8463 very helpful info, thanks!
@albertmanzo95103 жыл бұрын
SUPER REVIEW! Answered all the main questions!
@ryanwoodward94673 жыл бұрын
just in case people are worried about damaging the frame the bike frame on the marlin 5 2021 has a built in chain guard
@franklynlopez73264 жыл бұрын
Maybe over a month ago I got the Trek Marlin 5 in same color as you shown the Aquatic Blue. Bikes amazing. Bur my one down fall is that you can't upgrade the drivetrain to a 1x12. For me to do that I have get a rear rim with ei5h an 8 speed cassette. But again bikes is amazing. I do go off road on and handles good after a few adjustments to shocks
@AllanDelosReyes4 жыл бұрын
Awesome I’m glad i pre order the Marlin 5
@unimz66694 жыл бұрын
Great vid your content is really good and your video quality is getting better 👍👍👌😁😁
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@narb3h3 жыл бұрын
Dual Sport 4. Bad ass bike for an all round purpose.
@hurt17042 жыл бұрын
Sure wish I could find a dual sport 4. What’s the next best alternative?
@Moostery Жыл бұрын
I can't decide. I'm going to spend an equal amount of time on pavement and on trails but I also want to be able to handle tougher trails.
@firefeature453 жыл бұрын
Great Videos, Talalipop! I'm completely torn on whether or not to buy a DS3. I wanted the DS4, but I've called every bike shop within several hundred miles and nobody has them. Trek support said there won't be any more stock for 2021. A LBS is getting a shipment of DS3s next month, though. The reason I'm torn is that I'm buying this bike to ride mostly rail-grade trails, which are generally very compacted peat, with a little gravel, but not much. I ride a Diamondback Hybrid on them today, and it works well. If I go the MTB route, I would do the X-Calibur for the better, lighter frame, and replace the wheels with narrower ones, but I'm wondering if the DS3 might be better overall for the type of trails I ride. Thoughts?
@dalejuhl85913 жыл бұрын
I have a Marlin 6 as result of the shop being out of the Dual Sport 3 (COVID) I REALLY like the Marlin but still want the DS 3. So only 1 thing is certain, which is my newly formed bike addiction 😋.
@dot25622 жыл бұрын
Bought the marlin 7 for delveroo, best buy ever, had a boardman hybrid before, honestly, not to much difference.
@4507jrod4 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks , very insightful.
@saurabhjadye4 жыл бұрын
Lovely video. Please also compare the trek FX series to the dual sport with regards to commuting or touring.
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Sure! I'll look into that as well.
@rickfensch3 жыл бұрын
Very well put together comparison video. Thank you very much!
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
@lampoyo2 жыл бұрын
The lollipop tires got me
@TalalipopMTB2 жыл бұрын
HAHA :D
@taransagoo3503 жыл бұрын
incredibly helpful, thank you. It helped in making my decision! (Marlin..)
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!!
@davidleal71333 жыл бұрын
The biggest difference if you ask me is that the dual sport has a better frame quality but a smaller max tire width I gave a marlin 6 and out of the box it’s ok but mine now has. Bmx stolen crankset with a ebay euro bmx bottom bracket profile racing 29t front chainring a 11-40 8 speed rear cassette with eBay wolf tooth road link longer and red rear derailleur housing also it has origin8 riser stem and the a shape origin8 handlebars and a manitou markhor fork
@reinhardtviljoen56974 жыл бұрын
I like the videos they are good quality
@00dreamer003 жыл бұрын
Merlin or dual sport? Both are so nice what a tough choice!
@Bakamiloto3 жыл бұрын
nice review... it helped me which is which. now i am decided.
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JochyEstrella4 жыл бұрын
Basically the DS is more like a bike for road and sidewalks, typical scenario here in south east Florida, Marlin will do both plus grass, gravel and light trails a lot better , specially if you go ride beach or lake parks with dirt paths, thanks for your review ... I was trying so settle ... I’ll get the marlin even do the Ds have a lighter AL frame.
@mav2knight4 жыл бұрын
Not true....I have a Dual Sport 3 and over gravel and light trails, it handles them great and much faster than the Marlin with the wider tires. The Dual Sport is a great fitness/gravel/light trail bike which is what it is made for. Plus the components are better upgrades than the Marlin. Plus, if you like riding hills, the DS will go up them like nothing before the Marlin even gets started. Marlin's are great for off trail but can't compare to FX or DS on bike paths, road etc....
@mav2knight4 жыл бұрын
@Joe Kinchicken The FX and DS have basically the same components except tires and front suspension. While the FX can go on trails, it's tires are 700x32 which are closer to road bike tires and the DS has 700x40 which are a little wider and have a little more mtb tread though not nearly as aggressive. If you are going on any rail trails, gravel and even dirt trails more than 30% of the time, I'd get the DS. The DS 3 is more expensive but has better components than the DS1 or DS2. I'm about half pavement half trails (light trails, not big roots and rocks) so I bought the DS 3 and love it. It is much faster than a mtb and only a tad slower than the FX which weighs less. Both the DS and FX are 2.x9 so if I were you, I'd buy the DS 3. It can be a beach/fitness/gravel/light trail bike and is faster than most.....
@JochyEstrella4 жыл бұрын
@@mav2knight Agreed ... for fitness, sandy paths the DS is better but once riding on rough gravel trails it will be more prone to punctures and rim damages IMHO.
@WilliamR-nt5ek4 жыл бұрын
Just a couple thoughts... btw, good video. I noticed there was a extra port NOT USED on the right side of the frame of a few of the bikes you were showing... that...HAD a front shifter. Is that routing for a dropper post? Thought 2. I was considering the new 2021 DS 4.... but Trek Chat told me... I couldn't upgrade the fork for a regular Mtn. Bike fork with more travel. I guess what I'm looking for is... a Mtn. Bike... with more higher speed road like gears. I also really prefer a 1X drive train. I've been looking at the Salsa Journeyman 700c.... it comes with 38c tires but can fit 51c. But it has no front suspension... it's considered a bike packing rig. I'll have to look at the Marlin closer, now that this video has turned my head a little.
@VantagePoint24 жыл бұрын
William R The Marlin also has very limited fork upgrades as it has a straight headtube, the Roscoe has a taper and a 1x drivetrain. You’re not going to find a Trek mtb with the road gears you want, along with better fork compatibility. Trek bikes that come with road like gears, won’t have a tapered headtube. Also road gears are almost always a 3x drivetrain to give you more range. In my opinion you have to choose between the marlin and the ds.
@eBikerHowie4 жыл бұрын
@@VantagePoint2 I agree. Just spring for the 2021 Roscoe 6. No compromises. Does everything and more.
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Yeha usually there is an extra port when the bike has a 1x drivetrain since it doesn’t need a second shifter for the front derailleur, as there is none. But yes Trek usually does include another extra port for dropper post routing as well! So sometimes there’s 2 extra holes.
@EleStrings3 жыл бұрын
I have a marlyn 5 whit 700 tires and 43 theets gear , and works really good.
@francoisellett72984 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see the actual weight on these models, manufacturers tend to be a little creative with the weights they put in a catalog or website. I have a 2017 DS2 I use for fitness rides, I really enjoy my DS2, mostly street and bike path riding but once in a while I cut across a trail with it. Most excellent comparison review.
@sumitat14 жыл бұрын
Again. Nicely done comparison ..👍
@miremadr7937 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, thank you
@TalalipopMTB Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@enkeierick3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a comparison of the higher end DS and Marlins? Or even the Marlins and the Giant Talons?
@sahilgusain4 жыл бұрын
Helloo mate...as always thanks for the video. R u ok reviewing the introductory Road Bike series for Trek, Scott etc? If u r only related to Trek bikes then a video on introductory Trek Roadbike series will b highly appreciated...cheers
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I was thinking about those, but I just know less about road bikes at the moment. I’ll probably research them more as my channel grows and get around to it though!
@sahilgusain4 жыл бұрын
@@TalalipopMTB take ur own time mate, m planning to buy 1around middle of 2021 so hope by tht time u'll find something for lads like me..cheers mate
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Aw yeah!
@shafeequerogue94273 жыл бұрын
I have two purpose to carry my bike The first which should show good confort while go for long drive like above 100 kelometers in a day and second is to drive and challege some gravel road while go in long drive So does marlin sereis suit at me?
@holdfenyluna76063 жыл бұрын
I cant count how manyt times I saw this video and still do not know which bike should I buy :) I love DS, but I am small and do not understand why only MTB-s and Gravel bikes come with 650B wheels (ok I know other manufacturers has cross bikes with that size.) I love all your videos. Thank You!
@TomerBenDavid2 жыл бұрын
Which one did you get?
@holdfenyluna76062 жыл бұрын
@@TomerBenDavid None of them. Unfortunately in my country I could not get in my size, so I bought a gravel bike and I am not regret it. If I had found I would bought the DS, because it is good enough to bad roads in my town.
@TomerBenDavid2 жыл бұрын
@@holdfenyluna7606 gravel bike is it without suspension??
@holdfenyluna76062 жыл бұрын
@@TomerBenDavid Yes.
@TomerBenDavid2 жыл бұрын
@@holdfenyluna7606 isn't that over bumpy on gravel?
@salvadorgutierrez21083 жыл бұрын
Wow awesome video 👍
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@besimqamili70553 жыл бұрын
My bike is called FOCUS and its cross series and the tired are Hybrid
@Sangram-IND4 жыл бұрын
Brooooo, Thankyou so much very very beautiful video always love ur video . I love it. Thankuou ♥️👍
@ninjamaster7724 Жыл бұрын
At first i was thinking about getting a Giant Talon 1 but now i'm tossing up between a Giant Roam Disc 1 or a Giant Escape 1.
@taxfinancialadviceinportug47452 жыл бұрын
Great video - thank you very much
@TalalipopMTB2 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@set9214 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. The percentages were a bit overkill, tho.
@Osscar123563 жыл бұрын
Omg why are your videos so good
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Aw hahaha thank you!!
@camomoto25443 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a 2021 marlin 6
@TalalipopMTB3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@ngarmy66023 жыл бұрын
Make video about hardtail marlin trek best strongest For big and hard ride and for DH trail TREK 9.5 something like that
@haranind4 жыл бұрын
Good video....easy to follow
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nixodian3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review, I was gonna buy 26” for my daughter who’s ~138cm, and got told by bike shop 24” is ideal. Thoughts? Also gonna buy entry mtb for self, Cannondale trail 7 or 8 or Trek, suggestion appreciated. Thanks
@trackmedixuk3 жыл бұрын
The marlin looks so much better.
@sidduhiremath47634 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video.please make video of 2021 dual sport 3 please.Because I m planned to buy sir
@krishsane20143 жыл бұрын
Bruh I have both of these bikes! The dual sport is good for commuting and dual track trail. The Marlin 7 is amazing for trail! lol.
@AlessioDApice3 жыл бұрын
marlin 7 seems to have better components at the same price as the ds 3. rockshox fork 100mm vs suntour 63mm, shimano deore 1x vs alivio 2x9 gearbox, deore vs acera shifters .... why choose the ds if you just need to change marlin tires?
@slickwill63363 жыл бұрын
I have a dual sport and getting a marlin 7 and I’ve been doing jumps with it idk how I have not broken it yet Edit: I have bend my brake lever my brakes don’t work as well and my gear changing is messed up and the part that tells you what gear you are on has snapped off.
@midnightshade322 жыл бұрын
Don't think those are made for jumping. I'd get a beater bike, or old school BMX for tricks/jumps. Or if you have the cash to burn, an expensive mtb made for that.
@james007bray4 жыл бұрын
Great video, definitely great as I'm looking and having a hard time deciding which one I wanna get. What bike shop had the dual sport 3?
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
It was Folsom Bike, but all 3 of them were already sold to customers :(
@james007bray4 жыл бұрын
@@TalalipopMTB none to be found here in the Bay Area
@1kulkat814 жыл бұрын
@talaipop MTB I just bought my ds3 (same color as on the video) but had to wait well over a month before it became available.
@danielcodreanu33904 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video interesting and helpful
@c19commander444 жыл бұрын
What a great review talalipop.
@TalalipopMTB4 жыл бұрын
Aw thank you!
@c19commander444 жыл бұрын
@@TalalipopMTB You are welcome-the video was well edited also. brilliant.
@nguyenkhoa127410 ай бұрын
thanks you very much !😍
@TalalipopMTB10 ай бұрын
No problem!
@gerda70564 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about which one is the best for xc. Thanks for the videos m, haven't seen much yet but they seem interesting