Trek Supercaliber SLR 9.9 Gen 2 Tech Talk and Designer Deep Dive

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11 ай бұрын

Trek have completely rebuilt their radical Supercaliber XC race bike ready for the World Championships. So what are the details and developments on this Superlight Gen 2 race machine?
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Guy

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@nicknick194 11 ай бұрын

Bought the older version (2nd hand) a month ago. Its replaced a scott Scale 29er and my god its awesome! Flies round Dalby and was just enough travel for Grizedale and south lakes bridleways. I wanted an XC race full sus but also 2 bottle cages so this limited me. I dont regret the Supercaliber at all 😀

@adamkubiak1933 10 ай бұрын

I'm in the process of arranging almost the same move. I'm ending my affair with the beloved Scale and pulling the trigger on Supercaliber. Expectations are to go faster';-))))

@kirklawrence620 11 ай бұрын

Your reviews are always absolute BANGER! Thank you so much for what you do! That is one awesome update Trek has done with that bike. I’m SUPER happy with my 2023 Top Fuel 9.7. No racing in my future, so I couldn’t have made a better choice! 😀 Cheers.

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

Cheers Kirk, glad you enjoy them. Yeah they’ve done a great job on the Supercal, just got back in from 25 miles over the moors on it and it was flying. If you’re not racing or chasing climbing KOMS though Top Fuel is definitely the way to go 👍🏻

@thephoenixcycle8854 5 ай бұрын

Wow awesome, amazing bike! That really is the perfect bike for me and the trails l ride.

@elbiemetoo 11 ай бұрын

Excellent review. Thanks. I just ordered one. I have a gen 1 SC and love it.

@joeydirty6112 8 ай бұрын

Same! Love my Gen 1 9.9! But I’m ordering the Gen 2 XTR build shortly! 🤙🏻

@eriotero8397 3 ай бұрын

Nice bike!! I guess the Carbon Red Smoke color looks much better in person.

@Paganiproductions84 11 ай бұрын

The OG Epic World Cup lol lol

@brentcollins9727 11 ай бұрын

Those handle bars are super DUPER wide. Beautiful bike

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

They're 750mm but you can chop them down

@brentcollins9727 11 ай бұрын

@@GuyKesTV, I chopped mine to 580 for a more comfy and sportier ride

@mister_ray 8 ай бұрын

I cut the bars to 690mm and slammed the stem/bar combo.

@johnlesoudeur3653 10 ай бұрын

Great review of a super bike. I do not mind the cables as I am a form over fashion person...but the price makes my eyes and bank balance water.

@GuyKesTV 10 ай бұрын

The cheapest SL spec is actually relatively reasonable and the frame is only 200g heavier

@johnlesoudeur3653 10 ай бұрын

Yes I could be interested but the high cost of living in the UK has shattered my savings for a new bike.@@GuyKesTV

@kjwagoner 9 ай бұрын

does the new frame design fix the fragile chainstays?

@mattiasstenmark4918 11 ай бұрын

Love these videos! Riding a 2021 Top Fuel, really nicely specced weighing 11.75 kg with pedals, cages, garmin mount. New bike on the horizon and trying to decide between Oiz M 10 or Supercaliber 9.8 XT. Racing trying to get good results but only 5-10 races a year. Like the capability of my TF but feels a little sluggish going fast uphill and on the flat sections... any advice?

@Paganiproductions84 11 ай бұрын

The Current Oiz has more suspension travel front end rear 120mm

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

Sorry I missed this Mattias. The Supercaliber would definitely feel a lot sharper than the TF on the climbs and uphills. You'll be working harder on descents for sure though. Hopefully getting an Oiz to test very soon so stay tuned.

@jessezarate6571 7 ай бұрын

would you recommend sizing down? I was told by some that the wheelbase also grew quite a bit where almost a bike size down to get the same wheelbase was recommended by some. Just curious on your thoughts there- thanks!! your reviews are awesome!

@GuyKesTV 7 ай бұрын

I'd say stick with your normal size as they've shortened the stem to compensate for the reach growth

@notpablo8369 11 ай бұрын

Wished they bring back top fuel xc, then update x-caliber to boost TA

@pa3ck860 9 ай бұрын

Xcall need update. Geometry and Thru-Axle at rear

@clarencecruden7578 11 ай бұрын

Specialized world cup VS Trek Supercaliber SLR 9.9 Gen 2 that is what I want to see

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

That’s all covered in the live ride uploading next 👍🏻

@westbrookwellness4366 11 ай бұрын

Did you cover the brake caliper bracket difference.... 🤔

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

They're both Level Stealth Ultimate 4 pot on post mount or am I missing something?

@Nuno_bikes_fun 3 ай бұрын

Hi there, do you think a 2.4 tire will fit on that SID ultimate SL ? I really like the bike, but that fork is a little limited... Cheers

@GuyKesTV 3 ай бұрын

Officially RockShox say no which is why it comes stock with 2.2. All I can say is that I switched to 2.4 versions of the same tire and didn’t have any issues while riding. I can’t speak to whether there could be an issue with an extreme bottom out with that tire or a 2.4 in another model

@nickrossi7454 3 ай бұрын

With the tires trek specs the 2.2 that it comes with measures more like 2.0 and treks 2.4 measures 2.25. So you should be fine with the bontrager 2.4 tires

@jonpoon3896 8 ай бұрын

Am I crazy to think that this frame could be a very interesting candidate for a bikepacking build?

@GuyKesTV 8 ай бұрын

Not at all, probably the best short travel FS bike you could pick. You can fit a frame bag for a start!

@Nuno_bikes_fun 4 ай бұрын

Hi, I hope you still have the bike. I am planning to get a Supercaliber G2, the same color as you have on the video. is that a real black ? or there are red nuances ??? At trek website it seems there are some red "smoke" effects on the black colour. I my bikes have been black, so that is something I want to avoid....Cheers and thanks

@GuyKesTV 3 ай бұрын

Hi Nuno, bike has gone back so I can't send a close up photo but the red is definitely obvious in the frame.

@Nuno_bikes_fun 3 ай бұрын

@@GuyKesTV Thanks , meanwhile I talked with my shop and they also confirmed that

@shaundejager5508 11 ай бұрын

What I don't understand is how can this bike frame weigh 1.95kg but the Epic Evo is at ~1.65kg, Orbea Oiz at ~1.75kg, Scott spark RC ~1.8Kg. These bikes all have much longer travel plus they have the linkages? Is this supercaliber way more stiff or how does it compare to the longer travel (not downcountry) pure XC bikes?

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

I’d say it’s slightly stiffer torsionally due to the shock but the shock itself is much heavier. 130g heavier than a SIDLuxe of the same stroke before you take all the hardware and extra slider etc into account.

@silver_c1oud 11 ай бұрын

Rockshox Suspension with a Fox Dropper Post. Hilarious.

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

It’s the lightest option. Some come with Reverb AXS or Bontrager

@budycelyn 11 ай бұрын

how long until we get the live ride video Guy? btw this would be my choice of race bike if i had the money lol

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

It’s uploading now boss. Had to shoot some extra audio after a video chat with the Trek design team revealed some interesting stuff

@budycelyn 11 ай бұрын

@@GuyKesTV ok Guy thank you, i've put it in my watch list for later :)

@nickrossi7454 3 ай бұрын

I would have happily taken the extra 30 grams to not have the controls take gouges out of the top tube

@milliebays1801 11 ай бұрын

Sounds like the bushings are again too tight and will need to be manually sized. No mention of the lack of lockout lever option??

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

They are hand sized but they’re still pretty tight. I’m about ten hours in now though and it’s getting smoother. The dampers are same as a standard SID and SIDLuxe so you could fit a shock mounted lever or a single poploc but TwistLoc is the only twin cable system from RockShox currently AFAIK

@milliebays1801 11 ай бұрын

@@GuyKesTV so it looks like sid luxe shim tunes can be retrofitted then? Do you know what shimstacks come stock? Stoked sidluxe has tuning options available

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

@@milliebays1801 I’ll ask the design team

@milliebays1801 11 ай бұрын

@@GuyKesTV looks like the tuning guide doesn't list other options for isostrut. I didn't look at shim dimensions, maybe itd work. Sadly it doesn't look like you can retrofit a lockout lever. Big miss.

@Paganiproductions84 11 ай бұрын

A few tie rips would fix the cables mess

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

Yep, the bikes running Flight Attendant shock and fork at the Worlds looked super neat so hopefully that's not far off.

@HUKIT. 11 ай бұрын

At that price point that bike is screaming for a Reverb over the Transfer for aesthetics and to match the AXS.

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

Yes but a Reverb is 300g heavier

@likeris2 9 ай бұрын

what beter this one or S-works

@GuyKesTV 9 ай бұрын

This one

@MMartins92 11 ай бұрын

weigth of tyres?

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

718/722g for the 2.2 (with some sealant residue) 786/794 for the 2.4

@milliebays1801 11 ай бұрын

Acoustics

@frienduro24 11 ай бұрын

Those cables….

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

Yep, the bikes running Flight Attendant shock and fork at the Worlds looked super neat so hopefully that's not far off.

@tapuzak 11 ай бұрын

Claimed weight is 200 grams lighter than you stated here…1760g or so is claimed weight.

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

No it's not. Both the Trek launch PR and the website state 1.95kg for the frame and that was confirmed in conversation with the designers.

@tapuzak 11 ай бұрын

@@GuyKesTV you are 100% correct. I mixed it up with the specialized. Thanks. Great work.

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

@@tapuzak no worries mate, always worth double checking!

@fabricehardel8953 9 ай бұрын

headset look like a mess with all those cable...

@GuyKesTV 9 ай бұрын

Agreed, but still prefer it to headset routing for long term servicing

@Cracke007 11 ай бұрын

where is the chainguide...

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

That's a good point. None fitted and no obvious mounts either

@mmiller2978 7 күн бұрын

MRP now makes one for the 😅21+ Supercaliber, Procaliber and the 20/21 Top Fuel. MRP 1x SL chain guide.

@Jsurf66 11 ай бұрын

Unacceptable cable mess 😮

@GuyKesTV 11 ай бұрын

Yep, the bikes running Flight Attendant shock and fork at the Worlds looked super neat so hopefully that's not far off.