Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1.4 - Memento Mori

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@MAllen853
@MAllen853 2 жыл бұрын
Sean, not to knock anything, but there was something you gave a down to that I disagree with. You gave a down to the Starfleet officer giggling at the other's being startled by the dog. I can tell you from firsthand experience, clearing a room with weapons out and very much on guard looking for threats, I had a situation where I was doing the very same thing, and someone got startled by a life-sized cardboard cutout of a character in a shopping mall. The person was startled thinking it was a burglar and there were a few giggles. But then you get over it, move on with your game face. And when it's all over, we laugh about it. When you're dealing with intense stress, you have to find humor in things, it's how you cope. I found that part to be very realistic as I've lived it. And in the episode, guy was startled, someone giggled, and they moved on. I found it to be realistic. You can't be distracted; you have to be focused.
@TheSirUno
@TheSirUno 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. Have done room-clearing on multiple occasions, and this was basically spot on, or as much as it could be within the ST universe. This is how these things happen. Can't go with Sean on this one.
@eperor
@eperor 2 жыл бұрын
I second this! 😂
@penegakkeadilanpembasmikej5022
@penegakkeadilanpembasmikej5022 2 жыл бұрын
That's what happening when someone give opinion base only by his thoughts not by experience
@AngryMonk_24
@AngryMonk_24 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Blue...👍🏼
@orion790
@orion790 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I thought this was actually well done and a very “real” moment.
@gr3ndl3r
@gr3ndl3r 2 жыл бұрын
I think Anson Mount deserves an up because you can see that he feels every loss, and that while he's thinking tactically, you can see how much he hates giving the order to close those bulkheads. That to me, is what a true captain is supposed to be. I think Captain Pike could actually become my favorite captain, Sisko still has him beat, but those moments of humanity are making him a close second.
@Kasilyn_S
@Kasilyn_S 2 жыл бұрын
that sigh of relief at the end when he learned about the whereabouts of those crewmembers it just hit me to the core
@DocD173
@DocD173 2 жыл бұрын
It also really falls in line with what was established about his character the pilot, in that the burdens of choosing who lives and dies weighs very heavily on Pike’s soul.
@drhibas
@drhibas 2 жыл бұрын
He is such an excellent actor.
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 2 жыл бұрын
SEE? HE is much LIKE Hunter's Pike! Takes every loss personally, and is FULL of self doubt! Hunter's Pike had a lot of self doubt!
@tanman99
@tanman99 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. His acting is so on point in this episode. I love the very subtle interactions, oftentimes silent, with his bridge crew in this episode. Especially Ortegas.
@Rhewin
@Rhewin 2 жыл бұрын
That scene where Captain Pike thinks Uhura and Hemmer are dead worked so well for me. Not because of tension around whether they lived or not, but because of Anson Mount's amazingly genuine performance. Seriously he's quickly becoming one of my favorite captains.
@garyrobbins283
@garyrobbins283 2 жыл бұрын
We knew Uhura would be okay, but we weren't completely sure about Hemmer.
@Eleglas
@Eleglas 2 жыл бұрын
We knew they would be fine, but I still welled up a little seeing Pike's reaction and relief just as he's about to give an order. Anson Mount's acting is amazing.
@trhansen3244
@trhansen3244 6 ай бұрын
Every single time Uhura is on I cringe. She is truly one of the worst actresses ever. And Ortega with her little quips? If an officer on the bridge did that all the time she would be kicked off. Being on the bridge is not like being in the high school cafeteria. And that engineer? Whose idea was that? He is a cartoonish jerk. And this series had so much potential.
@charlesjohnson7458
@charlesjohnson7458 2 жыл бұрын
The humor is like when Odo asked Garak, "You'd shoot a man in the back?" and without missing a beat, Garak responds, "Well it's the safest way".
@MrTbk1701
@MrTbk1701 2 жыл бұрын
Everything Garak says is brilliant. I also love when comments on the boy who cried wolf.
@KnightRaymund
@KnightRaymund 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTbk1701 never tell the same lie twice
@stipe3124
@stipe3124 2 жыл бұрын
Garak, plain and simple
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 жыл бұрын
@@stipe3124 Garak, simple Tailor. Or sew it would seam...
@stipe3124
@stipe3124 2 жыл бұрын
@@tetravega567 And very good tailor, with just a few more skils than all other tailors 😁🤔
@luciandragos8556
@luciandragos8556 2 жыл бұрын
I get the clicking. The sounds we have had before where a lone Gorn acting in an intimidating manner to a mammal enemy. We never heard them "talking" to each other. Also Gorn could also be using it as code on the hunt like the lights
@GPsarakis
@GPsarakis 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was going to say. The sounds in Area could just as well not be how they talk for all we know.
@bluecadet8517
@bluecadet8517 2 жыл бұрын
@@GPsarakis yeah it could be like their basal sounds they made prior to developing a Language
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 2 жыл бұрын
Hey as SOON as I heard the clicking from that girl, I'd guessed it WAS the Gorn straight away! It SOUNDS reptilian! Snakes click vocally as well as hissing!
@avrahamishshalom1799
@avrahamishshalom1799 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's the sound the hatchlings make, not the adults; like alligators on Earth. It was the hatchlings hunting them for food.
@bluecadet8517
@bluecadet8517 2 жыл бұрын
@@avrahamishshalom1799 but hatchlings usually only hunt things their own size like insects or small fish not something the size of adults so assuming that it is similar for the gorn as earth crocs and alligators the hatchlings wouldn't have been hunting the colonists who are roughly equal in size to adult gorn maybe slightly smaller
@HikariKenzaki
@HikariKenzaki 2 жыл бұрын
On Up number 5, I really like there is a point where Ortegas is freaking out and Pike doesn't say a word. He looks at La'an and lets her do her job as Acting XO.
@HikariKenzaki
@HikariKenzaki 2 жыл бұрын
Little nitpick, Kyle is not a Lt. He's a non-com Transporter Chief like Chief O'Brien or the various other Kyles in TOS/TAS
@zainabamadahy9918
@zainabamadahy9918 2 жыл бұрын
The death of the crew member was more than your typical redshirt demise. We didn't know his name but we saw him dying heroically while saving another's life. Thanks for the review.
@tanman99
@tanman99 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that but they actually took the two seconds to introduce him earlier in the episode to make a tiny story arc.
@trhansen3244
@trhansen3244 6 ай бұрын
I was kinda hoping that would be Uhura. The show would improve dramatically.
@zainabamadahy9918
@zainabamadahy9918 6 ай бұрын
@@trhansen3244 Well, I guess everyone is entitled to their bizarre opinion. Personally, I don't see why the show needed James Kirk and I'm happy to consider this an alt-universe so they can kill him off.
@trhansen3244
@trhansen3244 6 ай бұрын
@@zainabamadahy9918 I haven't gotten there yet but obviously James Kirk should not be on this show. Neither should Sam '70s Porn Star' Kirk. Or M'Benga. Or Chapel. Or Ortega. Or that British security chick. They basically got rid of every character from The Cage except two. Wow, what a throwback!
@RobertLeaverton
@RobertLeaverton 2 жыл бұрын
This episode is all about submarine culture and combat. The Puget Sound area of the Pacific North West is home to many Submarines and submariners. The tracking of the enemy ships was strait up a Sonar tracking analog. The crushing of the hull is always a risk when diving deep to avoid enemy vessels. Even to the seemingly unimportant reference to filters, was very relevant to folks who work on submarines. A very cool episode, I absolutely loved it!
@darmal8770
@darmal8770 2 жыл бұрын
I agree... they called it radar, but wasn't it actually sonar?
@eperor
@eperor 2 жыл бұрын
Formerly stationed in Bremerton, Puget Sound Area, I second your comment 😊
@Agarwaen
@Agarwaen 2 жыл бұрын
it does remind me of a futurama episode. to paraphrase; "how much atmospheres of pressure can the hull take?" - "well, this is a spaceship, so one"
@RokiKrassinger
@RokiKrassinger 2 жыл бұрын
@@darmal8770 it had the familiar "ping" noise and other "submarine vibes", but "SOund Navigation And Ranging" doesn't work in the vacuum of space. Nor was it a radar either, as it didn't work with sending out radiowaves, but with certain sensors automatically picking up oscilliating gas turbulences something something. What we got, as far as I remember, was just Pike saying to Spock something like "you turned a compass into a radar", which makes sense, but strictly speaking the Enterprises navigational systems have nothing to do with a compass, nor did Spock's modification to the navigational scanners have much to do with radar/sonar ...apart from the really cool display and the "ping" noise.
@francisschweitzer8431
@francisschweitzer8431 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to say the same thing. The whole episode reminded me of “RUN SILENT RUN DEEP”
@clairewilliams9416
@clairewilliams9416 2 жыл бұрын
Strange New Words is the Trek I’ve been craving for the last 20 years. Don’t get me wrong I love lower decks and prodigy and Picard had its moments but SNW just really hits the spot in the way the others could not.
@coreyledin-bristol7068
@coreyledin-bristol7068 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I actually felt a little relaxed watching this episode that Trek was going to survive and be ok
@richardpartington3559
@richardpartington3559 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. You hit the nail on the head.
@vapoet
@vapoet 2 жыл бұрын
I had a massive issue with Prodigy in the first two episodes and it was niggling through my brain throughout the rest of the season. The first two episodes were to me, Star Wars. It isn't until they were visiting planets that I got a Star Trek vibe from it.
@Eby98194
@Eby98194 2 жыл бұрын
Really love Prodigy
@Eby98194
@Eby98194 2 жыл бұрын
@@vapoet I agree
@Gusty45
@Gusty45 2 жыл бұрын
Reptiles make a variety of vocalizations like clicking, chirping, and barks as well as hissing. Each has specific meanings. Clicking makes sense for the Gorn, an intelligent species, because they use a Morse code like system to communicate. Which can be encoded in clicks. The writers obviously did their research and were able to give the Gorn intelligent vocalizations beyond the played out Hollywood hissing sounds. When you give your reasons for a down sometimes I agree, sometimes I don’t, but sometimes they are just uninformed like your down for the clicking.
@phillipgaige6156
@phillipgaige6156 2 жыл бұрын
Up to Ethan Peck for his stoic “I’m not crying. You’re crying.” Look to La’An during the mind meld. I felt Spock’s loss in my guts. Love your vids.
@LordBloodraven
@LordBloodraven 2 жыл бұрын
It was also a great opportunity for La'An to be vulnerable while not being afraid. That brief moment when she felt Spock's pain and empathized with him from having known that kind of grief.
@lovipoekimo176
@lovipoekimo176 2 жыл бұрын
I loved that too
@shaneblackburn8910
@shaneblackburn8910 2 жыл бұрын
This show continues to impress. This episode was the best one yet.
@joshuahatton3223
@joshuahatton3223 2 жыл бұрын
I think you may have missed a fun moment with Spock! After Uhura told Pike they were ok, the camera focused on Spock and he let a smile creep onto his face, I assume out of relief or joy that they were safe! He allowed a little bit of his humanity bleed out, but he did so knowing no one would see it but the camera audience! I thought it was a great touch!
@MrCuddy2977
@MrCuddy2977 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@trhansen3244
@trhansen3244 6 ай бұрын
Spock is not Spock. And the actor is not good. Why go to all the trouble of making this series if all they do is crap all over the original.
@kspforensic
@kspforensic 2 жыл бұрын
Pike: “Yes, let’s take the ship down to crushable depths! Thanks Spock!” Spock: “That is not what I suggested.”
@trhansen3244
@trhansen3244 6 ай бұрын
A scene which illustrates how neither actor is that memorable. Except Pike's very high hair.
@NomenLuni1975
@NomenLuni1975 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was the best episode so far, and loved that it was clearly inspired by Balance of Terror and Disaster. SNW is easily the best of the current era of Trek shows.
@Land967
@Land967 2 жыл бұрын
also inspirised by Wrath of Khan in regards to having a tense submarine battle in a blinding equalizing cloud of whatever
@23hughmann
@23hughmann 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with your last statement, Nomen, would even go so far to say that it the best Star Trek that I have seen in many, many years! As far as best episode of SNW, for me, it has to be “Q&A” from Short Treks, which features Spock & Una, (“My name? It’s Number One!”) when Spock first arrives onboard the Enterprise (In case you haven’t seen it yet) If you haven’t seen it (or even if you have, I HIGHLY recommend it!)?
@NomenLuni1975
@NomenLuni1975 2 жыл бұрын
@@23hughmann Yep. I've seen Q&A and I loved it too. The part where they sang "Modern Major General" was absolutely brilliant. :D
@v.sandrone4268
@v.sandrone4268 2 жыл бұрын
and das boot
@trhansen3244
@trhansen3244 6 ай бұрын
Being the best of the current Trek shows means it's the 6th best Star Trek series. I do not believe actors know how to act anymore. It's all about these magic 'quips' that are supposed to be humorous but almost always land with a massive thud. None more so than those by Uhura.
@TheMadTube
@TheMadTube 2 жыл бұрын
“The Aenar believe the end only comes once you have fulfilled your purpose.” “What was your purpose?” “To fix what is broken.” That gives me *all the feels!*
@GPsarakis
@GPsarakis 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great bit of dialog. The episode has a few scenes that hit you in the feels.
@guaposneeze
@guaposneeze 2 жыл бұрын
My father passed away quite recently. The last conversation I had with him was quite normal, we made small talk, he asked if I was watching any good TV. I mentioned there was a new Star Trek. It was literally one of the last things I said to him. My father was a handyman. He was always working on one more thing around the house. The hood was still open on his old 1930's Ford he was slowly fixing up because he was going to get back to it to install a water pump when he had the energy. That line hit me so hard. I just can't even explain.
@DarrinBell
@DarrinBell 2 жыл бұрын
The giggle about the dog was great. It felt so real. The guy didn’t laugh at the other guy, he laughed because that bit of unexpected humor released tension. It was realistic. As for M’benga’s daughter, Una gave him a separate power supply for that, that’s not tied into the ship’s systems. So it wouldn’t have been affected.
@bradwoodard8289
@bradwoodard8289 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, from my military experience the giggle felt very authentic.
@sam21462
@sam21462 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I stopped watching when he downvoted that. It was perfect save for what he would have called him once he stopped giggling, and that would not be for TV, lol.
@alakani
@alakani 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradwoodard8289 From mine, Sean's observation of 'kinda dicks sometimes' also felt very accurate :P
@JediBeavis1971
@JediBeavis1971 2 жыл бұрын
Four episodes deep, and SNW is rapidly becoming my favorite ST series, ever. ❤
@jasonshortt7
@jasonshortt7 2 жыл бұрын
There's a moment that I loved from this episode. Ortegas says they are going to I think prepare to engage the enemy ship as it approaches and the Captain looks at La'an and gives them this look. La'an then tells Ortegas to relax. Pike didn't want to reprimand Ortegas for getting ahead of herself so he had La'an do it. So very well done. Great episode.
@impactfoto
@impactfoto 2 жыл бұрын
My issue is that how exactly was she going to 'engage them'? They had already established they had no weapons.
@trhansen3244
@trhansen3244 6 ай бұрын
Ortega has no business being in Starfleet.
@jasonmarantino4770
@jasonmarantino4770 2 жыл бұрын
Big up for Ortegas. I like her banter with the captain. This week with “bombs away” and “dive, dive dive”… i think she plays the cocky pilot well. Yes she brings up the negatives like flying into the brown giant that the science expert says will crush the ship… but she is cocky enough to make those comments out loud to her captain…
@cptkirk1978
@cptkirk1978 2 жыл бұрын
And the captain probably appreciates it in a small way
@danrlewis
@danrlewis 2 жыл бұрын
I get Tom Paris vibes from the character for sure
@BhavsBeats1
@BhavsBeats1 2 жыл бұрын
Ortega deserves an up based on her banter and one liners
@tanman99
@tanman99 2 жыл бұрын
But does it without being subordinate or obnoxious or self righteous.
@Scipio488
@Scipio488 2 жыл бұрын
She has really grown on me in a way I didn't expect (and in which Tom Paris certainly never did).
@demobbed688
@demobbed688 2 жыл бұрын
@seanferrick, I quite liked the way the security officer laughed at the other that jumped at the dog. As a former soldier it's probably something I would have done as soldiers use humour (usually quite twisted) to put themselves at ease in sometimes very dangerous situations. Also PTSD affects everyone very differently. I myself have never been diagnosed with it (although my wife is sure I suffer from it). I was involved in an incident 24 years ago as an 18 year old that at the time shocked me and I managed to block it out in my younger years but it now haunts me and I can see in my mind the aftermath of said incident as clear as if it was yesterday.
@jeremydyck5989
@jeremydyck5989 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree: laughing at the things that terrify us is how most of us in the military get through the messed up things we've seen.
@hublanderuk
@hublanderuk 2 жыл бұрын
I suffered a bit of PTSD after what happened to me at age 13 being on a sinking ship. I got over it with a ride on the Woolwich ferry the next week. My Grandad a WW2 survivor since he could not join the army due to eye sight so had to fight on the home front in London. Which was just as dangerous. So if I could go on a ferry I was over the sinking and I must say I have no problems with ships now but I always listen to the Safety Briefing before putting to sea. Also I have found things that should have hurt like falling over. If I am laughing when I fall on my arse it does not hurt if I don't laugh as I fall it hurts. So people find it weird I am falling and laughing.
@janmitchell3976
@janmitchell3976 2 жыл бұрын
@@hublanderuk when i burn myself(cook) i laugh every time i cant even say why . its not a fun or a funny situation, humans are pretty weird under certain conditions
@lokisgodhi
@lokisgodhi 2 жыл бұрын
I concur with your take on this.
@JaredLS10
@JaredLS10 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, i felt the laugh made the scene more believable in my experience and opinion.
@JayMallow
@JayMallow 2 жыл бұрын
Just when I think I can't enjoy this show more it impresses me. This episode directly went back to the original idea that space combat would more be like naval combat than anything else. The direct references, "Aye sir! Dive! Dive! Dive!" just had me grinning. Also GOD Anton is showing how awesome he is! His speeches are legit inspiring! Also his depiction of relief when Uhura responds was equal parts, "Thank GOD!" and "I needed that win". This is worth the $5 a month alone.
@trhansen3244
@trhansen3244 6 ай бұрын
The writing is generic, at best. The effects are great. The acting is below average. I am glad I am not paying to watch this. But I did make a promise to watch this entire series. I already know there is a musical episode. I will watch that on an empty stomach.
@Enterprise1701J
@Enterprise1701J 2 жыл бұрын
Peck saying sensors like Nimoy (“sense-oars”) was very appreciated by me.
@GPsarakis
@GPsarakis 2 жыл бұрын
I caught that, I never thought about it till that one episode of Lower Decks made fun of it.
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 жыл бұрын
*dramatic theatre voice THAT! Is the mark... of an ACT-OAR! *raises clawed hand
@Scipio488
@Scipio488 2 жыл бұрын
Good catch.
@TRLAuthor
@TRLAuthor 2 жыл бұрын
I swear, every week it's a contest between Jess Bush and Celia Rose Gooding for MVP of Strange New Worlds. This whole cast is so, so good, but these two are just on another level.
@cptkirk1978
@cptkirk1978 2 жыл бұрын
I feel ortega isn’t that far behind..i love her quirky humor lol
@wearwolf2500
@wearwolf2500 2 жыл бұрын
@@cptkirk1978 She's probably my favorite in the show.
@cptkirk1978
@cptkirk1978 2 жыл бұрын
@@wearwolf2500 kind of reminds me of jadzia a bit
@leons.kennedy6710
@leons.kennedy6710 2 жыл бұрын
It's a really strong cast overall.
@seannorton69
@seannorton69 2 жыл бұрын
I just love Strange New Worlds. I think Pike looking at the dead crew members must have him think of the crew members he'll save in the future.
@charlie-obrien
@charlie-obrien 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I feel that those moments will become omnipresent, but not necessarily spelled out as the series continues.
@timbolden774
@timbolden774 2 жыл бұрын
Re: The mind meld: You mentioned that we usually see it as thoughts only flowing one way, but I can think of two big examples of mind melds that are more of the two-way street you describe. First Picard and Sarek in the TNG episode "Sarek," when Picard takes on Sarek's emotional burden and imparts some his stoicsm so the Ambassador can get through a difficult negotiation without breaking down. Then in the fantastic VOY episode "Meld," you have Tuvok and Suder, where each of them take on characteristics of the other.
@caroln63
@caroln63 2 жыл бұрын
That clicking sounds was exactly like the sound made by the aliens in ST TNG Schisms. Really loved this episode. Strange New World is fast becoming the best of the new Star Treks
@sarahscott5305
@sarahscott5305 2 жыл бұрын
The more I see of TrekCulture's growing community, the more I like the people involved in it 🖖😘
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 1 Sez!
@dairedarcy1130
@dairedarcy1130 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, feels so friendly and welcoming.
@ShawnMM
@ShawnMM 2 жыл бұрын
It reminded me of "Balance of Terror" in a very good way with the tension of the battle. I'm loving the series so far. random Ensign hides behind Uhura Captain Pike "What are you doing?" Ensign "Deploying plot armor, sir."
@markandrews6142
@markandrews6142 2 жыл бұрын
Anson Mount is playing Pike so well...his reaction when Uhura and Hemmer respond after the escape and explosion is marvelous! His humanity shines through as his Leadership. His moment and face while he is amongst his lost crew's caskets...Pike is becoming my Favorite Captain and I watched the original series when it was brand new!!!
@daviddesjardins7751
@daviddesjardins7751 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, Kirk fought the Gorn captain. Perhaps there is more than one species of Gorn. Many hierarchies in nature and science fiction have workers, drones, soldiers etc.
@Tinrs80
@Tinrs80 2 жыл бұрын
Good good point💯💯💯
@xodiaq
@xodiaq 2 жыл бұрын
We have a planet with over 7,100 languages. To imagine one Gorn group clicks where another hisses isn’t even a stretch.
@ariellekolodzinski6947
@ariellekolodzinski6947 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if you’ve read the novels, but the second book in the typhon pact series (forget the actual title) established this. Books aren’t technically canon but it makes sense
@charlie-obrien
@charlie-obrien 2 жыл бұрын
When the Gorn communicate with each other, they use a clicking code (but is that the only communication possible?) and when the Gorn Captain is speaking to Kirk; #1 it's verbal and #2 it is being translated by the Metrons so that Kirk and the Gorn can understand one another.
@williamsakalaucks6335
@williamsakalaucks6335 2 жыл бұрын
The scoring for the memorial of those lost was beautiful
@sifrost6869
@sifrost6869 2 жыл бұрын
Love the way this episode used the sound of the hull creaking, just like in movies where its used on a submarine as a point of high tension. Keep up the grand work Sean!
@levismith8816
@levismith8816 2 жыл бұрын
This episode did definitely have a das boot feel to it
@23hughmann
@23hughmann 2 жыл бұрын
@@levismith8816 I totally agree with your “Das Boot” reference!
@23hughmann
@23hughmann 2 жыл бұрын
Totally!
@wearwolf2500
@wearwolf2500 2 жыл бұрын
There's also the "skipper" comment and "Dive, dive, dive"
@GPsarakis
@GPsarakis 2 жыл бұрын
@@levismith8816 It was 100% a submarine type battle, that much was clear. Honestly if we did have space battles between ships irl they'd mirror underwater submarines fighting each other.
@JLPelath
@JLPelath 2 жыл бұрын
I recall while I was watching episode one, thinking, “Wait- is CHAPEL gonna be my favorite character?? CHAPEL???” Four episodes in, and the answer is still yes. Yes she is.
@shaneblessley1141
@shaneblessley1141 2 жыл бұрын
Chapel gives me the same grin as Reno (Tig Notaro) in Discovery... I just love both of them
@whitedragon7
@whitedragon7 2 жыл бұрын
It's official...I got a crush on Captain Pike. 😂
@Retrohertz
@Retrohertz 2 жыл бұрын
yep
@fabianafontes2546
@fabianafontes2546 2 жыл бұрын
Same here 😂😂😂
@AndrewD8Red
@AndrewD8Red 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I mean, how could you not?
@sandramangano6391
@sandramangano6391 2 жыл бұрын
... are there even people who don't???
@origamimambo545
@origamimambo545 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked the scene at the beginning where they spot the Gorn ship while the away team is on the planet. It all unfolds in seconds like it should. they see an unidentified ship, Captain says bring back the away team, and a second later, they report that the away team is on board. Thank you transporters. Too often in all of the series, this kind of thing is carried out with all of the leisure of a stroll in the park.
@Eleglas
@Eleglas 2 жыл бұрын
Anson Mount's acting was absolutely stellar in this episode. We all knew that they would be alive but the relief that hit Pike when he heard it hit me hard.
@sallensmae
@sallensmae 2 жыл бұрын
Sean - DS9 - The Defiant fought a battle in a Gas Giant dealing with so many of the same issues - how are you not referencing “Starship Down?” ❤️
@ronniemark3627
@ronniemark3627 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@j.rileyindependentproductions
@j.rileyindependentproductions 2 жыл бұрын
The Doctor's Daughter was provided an independent power supply as referenced in the episode in which we find out that Una isn't human... Which is another thing in which suggests that there must be some sort of adaptation in process for the blood transfer.
@jamisonedwards8162
@jamisonedwards8162 2 жыл бұрын
Also an adaption to transfuse through her shirt....
@j.rileyindependentproductions
@j.rileyindependentproductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamisonedwards8162 there were rips in her uniform, so we could give that a pass... But that's been an issue from TOS on when certain directors ignored injection issues. Some did well, but others "Just use their shoulder. Doesn't matter they have a uniform and/or armor on." Most noticeable when drawing blood to check for Changlings on DS9.
@charlie-obrien
@charlie-obrien 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamisonedwards8162 In the Star Trek tradition of never rolling up their sleeves to get a shot. Lol
@munkduane
@munkduane 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought this was the best episode of Star Trek in YEARS!!! THIS is Trek!
@tsutomuskneepad
@tsutomuskneepad Жыл бұрын
Seán, what is "thank you for putting up with me in general" supposed to mean, seeing you on screen is a delight as always!! You're one of my most favourite people on trek culture, along wit Marcus and Ellie. Thank you for your hard work!! Watching new episodes of Star Trek doesn't feel complete without watching your ups and downs afterwards!!
@jeeshadow1
@jeeshadow1 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I think I got a reference you missed! When the cargo ship originally didn't respond to the hail, Pike ordered the ship to yellow alert and the shields up. Saavik would be proud!
@wesleyehowell
@wesleyehowell 2 жыл бұрын
Uhura was great. Her, "Get fine with it" reminded me of her later in life: "you wanted adventure, how's this? Got the old adrenaline going? Get in the closet!"
@veggiet2009
@veggiet2009 2 жыл бұрын
I have a big UP for the use of space in this whole series so far, the way they use the cgi and the choreographer, the fact that the ship is shown dodging and weaving in previous episodes, and then the brown dwarf and black hole visuals, mwa! **chef's kiss**
@botz77
@botz77 2 жыл бұрын
Felt like Balance of Terror, which is a pretty great thing. Classic submarine warfare stuff. Really liked it.
@joermnyc
@joermnyc 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the clicking could be another vocalization from the Gorn, maybe it’s their “stealth” form of communication used while hunting. Also, while running from Khan in the Mutara Nebula, Spock did have semi-partial sensors since he picked up a faint signal from Reliant turning under impulse, which gave him the idea that Khan was fighting 2-dimensionally in 3D space.
@Echostation3T8
@Echostation3T8 2 жыл бұрын
Memento Mori: Ingredients: A heaping pile of “Balance of Terror” A dash of “The Wrath of Khan” A pinch of “Starship Down” Mix and serve at room temperature.
@tanman99
@tanman99 2 жыл бұрын
Also mix in a healthy amount of “Disaster” and a pinch of “It’s Only a Paper Moon”
@stipe3124
@stipe3124 2 жыл бұрын
@@tanman99 Uhura and Hemmer are totally like Geordi and Beverly. And also in The Expanse Drummer and Ashford, i love those kind of stories
@yarnman7
@yarnman7 2 жыл бұрын
Must include a drop of "Arena"
@MA16v3
@MA16v3 2 жыл бұрын
Slightly above room temperature. Remember, the environmental systems were being overwhelmed by the brown dwarf.
@williambell3304
@williambell3304 2 жыл бұрын
Cetacean Obs: The blind, injured engineer talking someone through a task is very reminiscent of TNG with LaForge and a Romulans "Commodore".
@levismith8816
@levismith8816 2 жыл бұрын
Remembrance day for the federation reminds me of memorial day which is this coming Monday for us here in the states. Great timing and great episode
@Gery1214
@Gery1214 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to make this point.
@levismith8816
@levismith8816 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gery1214 great minds think alike
@hublanderuk
@hublanderuk 2 жыл бұрын
Remembrance Day in the UK is AKA Armistice Day 11th November is the day to remember the fallen of our armed forces.
@michaelmccullough1034
@michaelmccullough1034 2 жыл бұрын
This was such an intense episode! I'm really loving Strange New Worlds and it's probably my favorite Trek series of all the Paramount + shows
@geekishgir
@geekishgir 2 жыл бұрын
I am loving this series as being old enough to have watched the original as a girl. This hits all the right chords, and it is a real love letter to Gene Roddenberry and his vision for the show. Same trope setups but beautifully done.
@andyhoude4647
@andyhoude4647 2 жыл бұрын
This has been an amazing show. At this point I think I'm ok if they only use Canon as a guideline and not a law. Seriously, Uhura, Chapel, even Spock, and others are clearly being given opportunities to be more than TOS depicted them as. I'm ok with that. It would not be fair that such a competent officer such as Uhura gets stuck as a communication officer with no other relevance. Let this show grow organically with the characters
@stevengalloway8052
@stevengalloway8052 2 жыл бұрын
Underlying theme of this episode was Memorial Day, I think. Perfect time for this time of year. A tragedy for those who became part of the memorial.... 😑
@danroth7260
@danroth7260 2 жыл бұрын
I thought about that too. I also wonder how far in advance the airing schedule is put together and if it was planned or just sort of a coincidence.
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 жыл бұрын
/Grabs your face *REMEMBER!*
@whitedragon7
@whitedragon7 2 жыл бұрын
There was one part that I was curious about. I couldn't help but notice Spock sweating. I don't know why this stood out for me. I was just remembering that T'Pol on Enterprise and Tuvok on Voyager both mentioned the conditions needed for Vulcans to sweat. So, I guess maybe the conditions were met with power down and no environmental systems working and that Spock is half human. I don't know. I just don't recall Spock sweating anywhere else. Also, did anyone catch Spock smile a little during the end scene when Pike thought that Hemmer and Uhura were killed, and Uhura called out, and Pike was relieved? They panned to Spock who did a little half-smile before turning away.
@dad6167
@dad6167 2 жыл бұрын
Spock is half-human so his tolerance for heat might be less
@Lingosel
@Lingosel 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. From what we know, Spock’s Vulcan traits are definitely dominant. Vulcan’s sun is so bad that they even developed a second eyelid to be protected, they must’ve be able to withstand much higher temperatures. I don’t mind Spock sweating, but they should at least showed the difference between Spock vs the human crew. As a matter of fact, Spock’s sweat is more prominent than La’an, which is very odd.
@KougajiCalling
@KougajiCalling 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that smile!
@GPsarakis
@GPsarakis 2 жыл бұрын
Those little smirks and smiles is something you see him do often in TOS at times. Along with the classic eyebrow raise.
@KougajiCalling
@KougajiCalling 2 жыл бұрын
@@GPsarakis Yup! I love it! He's doing such a good job channeling his inner Nimoy!
@TheGreatElderOne
@TheGreatElderOne 2 жыл бұрын
Forget the "Pike Maneuver", for all intents and purposes, this captain just effectively defeated the "Kobayashi Maru"!
@francisschweitzer8431
@francisschweitzer8431 2 жыл бұрын
Allow me to play the Vulcan Advocate…… Interesting
@GPsarakis
@GPsarakis 2 жыл бұрын
Now that you mention it, it kind of fits, though there's no gas planet or nebula near in the test for you to run and hide in. But point made, it was looking like your no win situation for sure.
@rythe24
@rythe24 2 жыл бұрын
Except the Kobayashi Maru is a no win scenario. Defeating it wouldn't be the point, even if it were possible. The idea is to test how a Starfleet officer handles a no win scenario. In other words, Starfleet wants to see how officers meet their death, because that shows if they have what it takes.
@federicomarintuc
@federicomarintuc 2 жыл бұрын
About the latinum up: I love the part where the Gorn ship is in interception course and Pike orders to stay still, Ortegas then say "initiating evasive maneuvers" and La'An, as acting number one, puts her in place instead of Pike
@GPsarakis
@GPsarakis 2 жыл бұрын
After Pike gives La'an the look to do her job as acting number 1. Didn't even need to say anything, just a look.
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 2 жыл бұрын
@@GPsarakis Nice callback to the TNG ep where Picard & some aliens were captured n replaced to study command structures/hierarchy. Picard got the crew to capture them with a nod.
@lorenzo1701
@lorenzo1701 2 жыл бұрын
Love how Pike has faith in the Enterprise in surviving the pressure of the brown dwarf and black hole, showing how Enterprise is also an heroic character in Star Trek!
@arroberson8796
@arroberson8796 Жыл бұрын
Always.
@infinitwizdumb
@infinitwizdumb 2 жыл бұрын
The Gorn do make clicking sounds along with their hisses. See the Star Trek: Enterprise for which they make an appearance
@QuintusAntonious
@QuintusAntonious 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the clicking might have also been how their claws sound when walking along the deck, or their scales rubbing. Either way, it isn't against canon.
@alexruddies1718
@alexruddies1718 2 жыл бұрын
We've also never really seen Gorn people communicating between each other. So perhaps clicking is their way as interpersonal communication.
@cmoser22
@cmoser22 2 жыл бұрын
I've really been enjoying SNW. I also love Jess Bush. I feel like the relatively large cast has been so well balanced.
@GerardKean
@GerardKean 2 жыл бұрын
I love that this show is episodic. I'm tired of waiting 10+ (including filler episodes) weeks to finish a story.
@AshleyBluewater2010
@AshleyBluewater2010 2 жыл бұрын
The clicking made me first think of those inter dimensional aliens that kept Riker from getting any sleep lol.
@Nebagram
@Nebagram 2 жыл бұрын
the fight in the brown dwarf also reminded me of the DS9 episode Starship Down.
@erichweiger9329
@erichweiger9329 2 жыл бұрын
It is a shame that we couldn’t see more of the remembrance pins. Seeing them in Chicago (where they were displayed) there were pins for the Europa, the Shenzhou, and for Discovery (which I assume Pike was wearing)
@bradkrekelberg8624
@bradkrekelberg8624 2 жыл бұрын
I caught some TOS background music (from the Tholian Web and probably others) being played during this episode. That made me so happy. This series is really being lovingly done. And can I just say those little displays at the top of the bridge stations that call back to the TOS bridge displays really need their greens and blues back. Make it happen, guys.
@madrabbit9007
@madrabbit9007 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the doberman my first thought was, "Crap! They beamed into Racoon City!"
@archangel1of7
@archangel1of7 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe no one's mentioned Spock's smile at the end when he's turning back to his station. I honestly feel like that's a noteworthy moment.
@mrmarvel9309
@mrmarvel9309 2 жыл бұрын
With Pike this episode, I thought back to his concerns that he had in episode 1 about knowing the future and I kinda felt that they were taking place here. He was putting the Enterprise in a dangerous position, assured that it would hold. Granted it had to because they were dead either way but it still because he knew he was going to live past those events he took actions that, did save the ship but it is one that someone else might've not done.
@asgoodasitgets97
@asgoodasitgets97 2 жыл бұрын
With this episode, Star Trek is back !!!!! This episode was the bomb, I loved it. It reminded me of how I felt watching Capt Kirk in my 20's.. IM SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW I COULD JUST SPIT......THERE I SAID IT. Please Star Trek, start writing that Gorn Movie now, we all know you can deliver a masterpiece. if you did, you would make a old man happy one more time, Gods knows i love my Star Trek.
@matthewbarry4464
@matthewbarry4464 2 жыл бұрын
SNW is fast becoming my favorite Star Trek Series. The writing, performing, and direction has been close to perfect.
@xandersnyder7214
@xandersnyder7214 2 жыл бұрын
I want to talk for a second about the sound design and music. After watching Episode 4 "Memento Mori" I am convinced that the sound design and score teams have to be filled with massive fans. I watch the show early in the morning and watch with noise canceling headphones, so I hear a lot of the nuances that go into the sound design. The team has done an amazing job of bringing effects from all of Star Trek into the sound of SNW. While I have heard sounds from all of the shows, they have intentionally made the effects from TOS to be the most prominent. It really brings a sense of audio continuity to the show, it also helps with the immersion and is part of what makes SNW so familiar even though it's the first season. On to the music, the quality of the score is film worthy in my opinion. I am usually hyper critical of a show or movies score, as it can really make or break a story (see James Horner's score for Wrath of Khan). The use of score elements from TOS as well as parts that evoke the Star Trek film lineage are incredibly on point.
@jgoebel1226
@jgoebel1226 2 жыл бұрын
Solid agree. In fact one of my favorite bits from this episode was the half second flourish of music when La'an smirks at the destruction of the second Gorn ship. It had to have been a tribute to Jame's Horner's _Surprise Attack_ from Wrath of Khan, just the tiniest hint of Khan's blaring trumpet leitmotif.
@GrooveHillStudio
@GrooveHillStudio 2 жыл бұрын
I love this series so far! Thanks for the content TrekCulture team!
@spidermurph
@spidermurph 2 жыл бұрын
My view on the Gorn clicking sound was an up. I thought, this is clever we are learning something new about the species. Maybe this is a sound they use in hunting parties for communication or even a kind of excited purring. My down for the dog scene was a little different. My first thought was 'why don't Gorn eat dogs?' my second part to the down was the janky aluminum patio door with what looked like a key lock that the dog was behind. Fantastic episode. Strange New Worlds has brought back a lot of the classic weekly excitement we all love from Trek. We are only four episodes in and I feel like we are really bonding with the crew. All led by Pike who makes a perfect Captain.
@Beohun
@Beohun 2 жыл бұрын
The dog had probably staid hidden until the initial assault stopped.
@Adenfall
@Adenfall Жыл бұрын
This was one of the greatest episodes of any television show ever. It was perfect in every which way. It was suspenseful, had great action, beautiful to look at, the acting was terrific. The story was awesome. It felt like we were watching a submarine battle take place (which was the point though) Anson Mount is becoming my favorite captain. He knows his weaknesses, so he on has Spock tell him about his black holes and gas giants. But he still controls everything around him. I would follow this man everywhere.
@rebeccapass701
@rebeccapass701 2 жыл бұрын
Nurse Chapel has study archeological medicine. She knows how to treat people without the advanced equipment. Loved it.
@jamisonedwards8162
@jamisonedwards8162 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't that be more historical medicine as opposed to archaeological? Unless there was some literal digging into the past of human medicine. You'd think manual first aid and field surgery would be covered at some of the medical schools.
@shdon
@shdon 2 жыл бұрын
I found a lot to like about this episode. Some of my favourites: - how they handled the exchange between Una and M'Benga as she wakes up. These two characters simply giving each other a smile spoke volumes without making a big deal out of it. - Uhura is fast becoming one of my favourite characters. No disrespect to Nichelle Nichols, but Uhura in TOS was underused. In SNW the character is finally given the chance to shine. - Anson Mount's performance was great, imho. Pike's leadership style really worked for me this episode and the tension and relief in that final scene on the bridge especially made me appreciate Mount's acting skills as he made it believable. To be honest, when he appeared in Discovery, I wasn't really sure about the character, even though I knew from canon that he was a good captain.
@TheSuperSnake313
@TheSuperSnake313 2 жыл бұрын
LOVED Remembrance Day! Brilliant concept, thank you Trek. Also loved the teamwork and technobabble in this episode. This show feels like the Trek we've been waiting for, once again, thank you to everyone working on this show
@VikingVet
@VikingVet 2 жыл бұрын
Can I say how much I love that they aren't just beaming down to a planet in their indoor uniforms, but that have outer wear and body armor?!
@jamisonedwards8162
@jamisonedwards8162 2 жыл бұрын
Why do security teams in the not-so-distant future of Start Trek ditch the armor for a standard Red Shirt?
@penteractgaming
@penteractgaming 2 жыл бұрын
Arent the hisses and growls made by the adults? Why would that mean their young would also make those noises instead of clicking, especially since she survived a gorn nursery planet full of their young?
@kev30631
@kev30631 2 жыл бұрын
La'an was great in this. She is good in the number one spot. It feels right. Her character is becoming more likable to me. I love the bridge crew. Great episode
@1953Stephan
@1953Stephan 2 жыл бұрын
The whole series deserves an Up! Love it! Love it! Love it !!!!!
@davidmacmillan616
@davidmacmillan616 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the original bridge computing sounds that were used for a few seconds
@jlevogiani2012
@jlevogiani2012 2 жыл бұрын
They throw in lots of those. Adds a homey touch. I also noticed a tricorder scanning sound effect in one scene.
@willshields383
@willshields383 2 жыл бұрын
Bit unfair to give a down for the Gorn clicking but later say you're not about to pick apart canon...
@andrew-johnbowman7480
@andrew-johnbowman7480 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree. And maybe the clicking is a thing Gorns do when they're deliberately trying to screw with prey to make them more panicked. Might not be anymore a natural sound then me whistling when messing with people when playing hide-and-go-seek.
@darmal8770
@darmal8770 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrew-johnbowman7480 isn't the clicking thing similar to the morse code they were using? A visual representation, per se?
@coltigh4232
@coltigh4232 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrew-johnbowman7480 I think clicking noises in general are just more unnerving than the other sounds. More menacing. I think about both the aliens in Signs and the subspace aliens in the TNG episode Schisms.
@danroth7260
@danroth7260 2 жыл бұрын
@@coltigh4232 Humans just get the heebie-jeebies when animals make clicking noises I guess
@niki8635
@niki8635 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is the best episode yet and I was surprised you didn’t give it a perfect score like you gave the first episode love your show
@jasona5283
@jasona5283 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess I'm just not a big nitpicker but some of his downs are just ridiculous I thought this channel was less toxic and while it is more positive than most it's still the usual lets find flaws and try to pick every little detail apart which to me doesn't work I'm more about enjoying things than knocking them down.
@Lavadog11
@Lavadog11 2 жыл бұрын
He has a down quota to meet.
@jasona5283
@jasona5283 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lavadog11 Lol still the up vote should have been way higher. He seems like a cool guy but I think this is the the last video I'm watching this episode was amazing not sure what else he needs.
@keithtate1241
@keithtate1241 2 жыл бұрын
I remember waiting for the premier episode of TOS and how much I enjoyed each new episode. As much as I have enjoyed every enteration of Star Trek over the years it has never felt quite the same, until now.
@memeyers1962
@memeyers1962 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this series so far. I love the stories in each episode, the development of individual characters, the camaraderie of the crew. I must also say that my husband has not been impressed with the latest Star Treks, but really likes the two episodes he’s seen so far.
@fairview3725
@fairview3725 2 жыл бұрын
I am loving the series so far, it is amazing. I loved this episode, I think everyone did an excellent job...but I believe it was Christina Chong who deserves the MVP award for this one.
@thisphillipbrian
@thisphillipbrian 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good breakdown, as always, Sean. I cannot express how impressed I am with Christina Chong, even though some of the La'an stuff didn't feel earned to me. Yet, Chong is absolutely brilliant. She is acting to the hilt and it's fantastic.
@rockfan243
@rockfan243 Жыл бұрын
Uhura and Hemmer become my favorite duo on the show and quickly developed a father daughter vibe that was just precious ❤.
@ismike1982
@ismike1982 2 жыл бұрын
The show uses a lot of the Michael Piller formula for TNG - making us care about each character that much more by centering an episode on that character while still carrying out a major story. We learn so much about La'an and yet it was an action packed gripping episode. Absolutely fantastic!
@darryljames0111
@darryljames0111 2 жыл бұрын
All I have to say is, I can't believe we've waited so long for a Pike centric series, but I'm so glad we've waited this long for this pike series.
@darryljames0111
@darryljames0111 2 жыл бұрын
Ps Sean, did you not hear the enterprise end theme playing towards the end of the episode?
@Sk8rToon
@Sk8rToon 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since Futurama, I giggle every time Spock uses the “Spock-o-scope” & he used it a lot in this episode. I love their definition of pacifism. It involves defense. I will say, I think this episode would have been better had I not known who had “plot armor” & who didn’t. It will be interesting to see how future generations react. This show feels like it will be like Star Wars where do you watch in production order or chronological order? Like with Wars I’ll probably be a production order purist, but I don’t have kids yet so who knows.
@francisschweitzer8431
@francisschweitzer8431 2 жыл бұрын
Spock looks Bender in the eye.
@emc246
@emc246 2 жыл бұрын
It was very funny to have La'an sent on a super dangerous mission only to have Spock say "actually I'll go too" and make sure they couldn't die.
@Lingosel
@Lingosel 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I don’t really mind this. I’m relatively a newer generation (in my 20s). Back when I first watched the old treks, TOS etc. I always know the plot armour exists and always have the mindset the major characters won’t possibly die, at least until end of series. I had a few surprises along the way, but that’s mostly due to real life reason between actor/actress and production instead of in-universe reasons. So, in essence it’s no different than knowing Spock and Uhura won’t possibly die because they were in TOS. Hell, Michael miraculously survived all that crap in Disco like a freaking god, why can’t someone.. say Hemmer survive a normal day on the Enterprise.
@starchy101
@starchy101 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly with how the writers handled the show, plot armor works to it advantage. As is the case with Chief Kyle - we know he'll survive but not his friend, it adds a sort off impending doom and tick to the episode, or when we see Una on the operating table and another semi-blink if you miss it in the background the communication officer (idk her name but the white eastern asian com officer) was lying on the operating room in the background. We know who'll live but we wont know who will die and the writers use the plot armor to their advantage by showing us how the plot armored characters will react and shape their future aspects.
@jipillow1
@jipillow1 2 жыл бұрын
4 episodes in and 4 absolute bangers. SNW is just killing it
@PantherSpectre
@PantherSpectre 2 жыл бұрын
I love the TARDIS and weeping angel on the shelf!
@Bakamoichigei
@Bakamoichigei 2 жыл бұрын
On the Gorn sounds, someone brought up the interesting point that the hissing and growling in _Arena_ could have just been an intimidation display, and the clicks described here are their actual means of communication. Which is some good worldbuilding. Personally, I think it's just that the production decided it would've been too silly to have this little girl growling and hissing at La'an. 😏 Also, if TNG Season 6's _Schisms_ taught us anything, it's that alien clicking sounds are creepy af. (That scene on the holodeck where they recreate their shared abduction experience gives me chills every damn time.) I have a down of my own regarding the Gorn 'morse code' though... Why, why, WHY, is it in English? Like, I'd understand if La'an's brother worked out the meaning attached to certain patterns and THAT'S what was in his notes...but why would they have an entire morse code alphabet that is literally the English alphabet, and used to spell English words?
@RoystonMalcomber
@RoystonMalcomber 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this episode. For moments, I forgot this was set before TOS, and I was genuinely fearing for Uhura life. I really thought when the young girl was clicking, it was going to be a reference to the aliens in TNG: Schisms. My mind didn't go, "Ohhh the Gorn". I loved the sounds and rumbles, also the call to the sounds and rumbles of the hull pressure. It really felt like the ship, was a ship.
@FPRuzius
@FPRuzius 2 жыл бұрын
Sean, it's called a mind 'meld'. There is no door that also works the other way, no 'could be both ways'. It's a fusion of two minds, becoming one. The Vulcan chant often recited in different variances says as much: 'Your thoughts to my thoughts. Our minds are merging, our minds are becoming one'. And when Tuvok melds with Suder (VOY ep: Meld) it is clear that both paries have access to the others mind. Picard melds with Sarek (TNG ep: Sarek) and they exchange parts of their personalities and emotions. Mind melds have always been both ways, but sometimes depicted as being one reading the mind of the other, I'll give you that. Still great episode, keep it going!
@jpwphoenix1701
@jpwphoenix1701 2 жыл бұрын
I was definitely remembering “DS9: Starship Down” in this episode when they’re in the brown dwarf. Not only with the ships looking for each other inside the gases but also with the radar on the view screen to monitor where the enemy ship is too.👏😀
@willujames4989
@willujames4989 2 жыл бұрын
La'An and Ortegas. Wow.
@bobcartledge5250
@bobcartledge5250 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, Sean, I can't give you the "seal the bulkheads" scene as a call back to Voyager. This is because such scenes have been a staple of naval battles and oceanic disasters since the early '40's. Something happens to the ship/submarine/starship, you have to seal a bulkhead/room/deck to save the vessel, someone is left behind. Stakes are raised, "heavy is the burden of command", cut, print, next scene. There is nothing unqiuely Voyager about it. Voyager did it well, especially using the doctor for it, but it wasn't theirs.
@ImranChaudhry
@ImranChaudhry 2 жыл бұрын
When it was revealed that Uhura and Hemmer were OK, you can see Spock smile a bit as he turns away from the viewscreen. I like these subtle things they put in this show!
@fritzhotzonefritz8392
@fritzhotzonefritz8392 Жыл бұрын
Also, this situation is a classic submarine cat-and-mouse plot reminiscent of "Balance Of Terror" from TOS. The tension and pacing are perfectly executed. Thumbs up.
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