Alex O’Connor deconstructs Ben Shapiro and Ed Feser (REBUTTED)

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The Counsel of Trent

The Counsel of Trent

Жыл бұрын

In this episode Trent examines Alex O’Connor’s (aka “the Cosmic Skeptic”) and Genetically Modified Skeptic's objections to the argument from change for the existence of God as put forward by Ben Shapiro and Catholic philosopher Ed Feser.
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@someguyontheinternet2729
@someguyontheinternet2729 Жыл бұрын
When I watched Alex's response video to Ben Shapiro, I immediately said "Boy, Alex did a good job with his replies. It would be cool if Trent did a rebuttal to see his perspective on the matter" well, it seemed like I got what I wished for lol.
@djo-dji6018
@djo-dji6018 Жыл бұрын
Alex's arguments are so easily defeated that my brain almost hurts while listening to him. And as a former ultra-confident atheist now converted to the Catholic Faith, I say this with no sarcasm or ill intentions whatsoever.
@tylerwyat9592
@tylerwyat9592 Жыл бұрын
I think Alex forgets that by quantum theory, energy is quantized and not continuous. That was the whole "ultraviolet catastrophe" issue.
@HodgePodgeVids1
@HodgePodgeVids1 Жыл бұрын
Love philosophy and metaphysics. Makes my brain hurt
@mariobaratti2985
@mariobaratti2985 Жыл бұрын
Challenging Feser... that's bold Alex
@EstudioVoitheia
@EstudioVoitheia Жыл бұрын
Very IMPORTANT! It is absolutly not true that there is an infinity number of degrees that the cofee can be colled neither the distance between hands can not be reduced infinitively. the reason for that is that physics show that space and time are not continous but discret. We cannot add and infinity amount of decimals points to the T° of the coffee. The smaller distance and time period is given by the planck scale. That is the principle of quantum physics.
@Mrs_Homemaker
@Mrs_Homemaker Жыл бұрын
Me trying to understand this before my coffee has kicked in 🥴🥴🥴🥴
@Vtorch
@Vtorch Жыл бұрын
The potential of my head hurting after watching this video,......actually happened. 😁
@lionorfieldgules3740
@lionorfieldgules3740 Жыл бұрын
It seems neither of the atheists have really spent time pondering the concept of Divine Simplicity. Most of Aquinas' proofs are, first and foremost, an argument that Divine Simplicity is necessary to explain the complexity of this world.
@honeysinz3546
@honeysinz3546 Жыл бұрын
Omg ,when I watched Alex I thought to myself how Trent will respond to that and here it is .
@FiatMihiSecundumVerbum
@FiatMihiSecundumVerbum Жыл бұрын
Sitting here pretending to understand anything
@IWasOnceAFetus
@IWasOnceAFetus Жыл бұрын
This is such a good reply to Alex.
@diannalaubenberg7532
@diannalaubenberg7532 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Trent. I understand these arguments better now!
@nathanbustamante1525
@nathanbustamante1525 Жыл бұрын
I like that Alex shared his patron only segment on Ed feser. That was generous
@paularnold3745
@paularnold3745 Жыл бұрын
Alex O'Connor's objection using a block theory of the universe actually explains the eternity of God. In a block universe nothing is simultaneous (spatially or temporally) to observers who are part of the block universe, but for the Eternal God EVERYTHING is simultaneous.
@DeannaWillistonOFS
@DeannaWillistonOFS Жыл бұрын
I love how Trent brings in precision rules 💕🤓
@edwardanderson2847
@edwardanderson2847 Жыл бұрын
Comment for the algorithm.
@mike-cc3dd
@mike-cc3dd Жыл бұрын
If I had a dollar for every scholar who reverted to occams razor to "debunk" miracles but somersaulted through mental gymnastics to reject a creator....
@petery6432
@petery6432 Жыл бұрын
POV: You see that Trent is defending an argument from motion, and now are wondering how quickly MoR will take to respond to it.
@xaviervelascosuarez
@xaviervelascosuarez Жыл бұрын
The answer to the problem of "potential actuality" you give is spot on and I was happy that one of my philosophical heroes was brought to bear. When I saw Alex's video, Boethius' definition of eternity immediately came to mind. "Interminabilis vita, tota, simul et perfecta possessio." I believe that many (if not most) of atheists' most challenging challenges come from a defective understanding of eternity (evil, free will, etc.). Now, eternity (like everything else about God) is intricately bound to the divine simplicity, and I wonder how apologists such as WLC manage to fair so well in their debates without having this notion very clear. I think he (Dr. Craig) would save himself some intellectual acrobatics if he did come to understand that God's perfection calls for eternity and perfect simplicity.
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