We deep dive into the comments from Incident Report 043: it's time to step up and protect front line healthcare workers. incidentreport.com
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@nurseopinion7 жыл бұрын
It is a felony in Nebraska to assault a healthcare worker doing their job. The ANA/NNA pushed this through the Nebraska State Legislature to law.
@cassanndregjoni40357 жыл бұрын
staffing ratios should be much more important than whether we have an open water/coffee etc. container at our desks...
@Jesswithlessstress7 жыл бұрын
Cassànndrè Sager, Yes, so true!
@pedinurse15 жыл бұрын
Once they have a criminal they should have 2 cops and a guard dog that will attack the crazy, this whole thing of the customer being right is bullshit, this undermines the staff, none of them care, none of them care, because we are mostly women we are expendable
@erickagray63497 жыл бұрын
Noting pisses me off more than being told a patient is VIP. All my patients get the same care and treatment. No more , no less.
@ZDoggMD7 жыл бұрын
VIP Syndrome is real. And real damaging.
@LaSmoocherina7 жыл бұрын
Ericka Gray - I had taken care of a family in the hallway that needed assistance. A provider came to visit and called me into the room and asked me if I helped them because they were her friends and I knew they were VIP because they were her friends. I told her, "No, I had no idea..." She said, "I know. You did it because you're awesome and you'd do that for anyone." I said, "you bet." And she realized that's a horrible thing to say. To say that someone is more important. They weren't even a patient assigned to me. But they had asked for help, and did it in a respectful way. Why wouldn't I give them any tricks I have in my bag? They were so grateful! That was a great reward for me!
@erickagray63497 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I treat everyone in the same courteous manner . I do have to say that most " VIP"s were more embarrassed to be labeled as such and would fall all over the staff and thank us for our care.
@LaSmoocherina7 жыл бұрын
Ericka Gray yes! And they should see the REAL picture. Not one through rose colored glasses
@sarahjackson99485 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@pollycrookston48267 жыл бұрын
Had my zygomatic cracked, chunk of hair ripped out, faced scratched and bloodied and a concussion by a pt. I was told by admin that I was lucky because the last staff she'd attacked was still in a coma. Are you kidding me? And that makes me lucky? What a crock of shit. Thank you for talking about this!
@MRORiverside7 жыл бұрын
Polly Crookston omg, I hope you are taking legal action against the hospital
@LaSmoocherina7 жыл бұрын
Polly Crookston holy SHIT! We need a union.
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
Are you fucking kidding me?! I would fucking sue the damn hospital, more like my parents would because I live with them still, but still!
@singjosingsing5 жыл бұрын
Why was she not in jail?
@BigB23ABCUSA7 жыл бұрын
I get hit and kicked all the time as a med tech/cna at a assisted living facility and management just says I must be approaching the residents wrong. All for $9.50 an hour.
@deborahtschopp43377 жыл бұрын
I like when we fill out a unsafe staffing and we get laughed at but then administration blames the nurse if things are not taken care of or charted
@Joy4everM0RE6 жыл бұрын
Deborah Tschopp it's the same at my hospital. It's always us nurses at fault :(
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
So dumb.
@TheBandaid77777 жыл бұрын
I'd quit before I went to sensitivity training over an incident where a patient tried to harm me. Probably also lawyer up.
@LaSmoocherina7 жыл бұрын
We have had protocol/a script recently put in place that we aren't supposed to put up with bigoted pts who don't want a black/Muslim/Asian/Indian/gay/etc to take care of them. I'll have to get the exact script if you want it... We're supposed to say, in the most professional way possible, that we don't honor requests to switch care providers based on bigotry. Then if they continue, we are supposed to say, "that's my colleague you're taking about, and I don't appreciate it." If they continue, we can then say, "I'm sorry you're unhappy. Feel Free to get your healthcare delivery elsewhere."
@atoceansmercy7 жыл бұрын
Hey can you post it?
@LaSmoocherina7 жыл бұрын
atoceansmercy - I don't think I can without breaking my corporate privacy regulations. I'm sorry
@reneeschweiger99213 жыл бұрын
I love this!
@jasz22007 жыл бұрын
I had a patient tell me if I hurt him while placing an IV he was going to punch me. He was not joking. I jokingly said, " be careful I can duck and weave". I am a petite woman, but a look in my eye must have given him pause. He screamed like 2year old but did not hit me.
@rpleck5937 жыл бұрын
I was assaulted by a patient, reported it, and was required to clock out, give a urine sample, they took blood and made me do a breathalyzer. They asked me what I had done to make the patient hit me. Also, when I went to admin about something completely different, patient safety issue, they had changed the grid in the ICU to take away our techs and triple all of us every day regardless of open-heart recovery, IABP, CRRT, etc. I complained and the CFO called security, had them escort me back to the ICU, and I'm not able to be rehired at that facility for "behavior issues."
@joygernautm66415 жыл бұрын
Yuuup. In my years as a nurse I have “only” been kicked, punched, spit on, sexually grabbed, cursed at, pinched, yelled at, and cut with a box cutter. We are told “officially” that we are not expected to tolerate violence...but then simultaneously not given the support we need when things happen. Injured nurses have to fight for compensation. Psychological trauma takes weeks or monthes to be “diagnosed”, and in the meantime the nurse is losing her home because she has no income in the interim. It’s a mess. It’s safer to be a cop than a nurse. At least they have weapons and don’t get criticized for defending themselves.
@barbaramorton85237 жыл бұрын
Had a floor nurse in Michigan that was brutally beaten in the bathroom by a patient. I built an entire plan for education and safety plan for nurses to be able to call for help. One thing was get panic buttons the nurse can wear on them when caring for someone with history of being violent. another nurse manager actually said to me, "that is a hipaa violation and against the patients rights to have a label on their facesheet marking them as violent. Are you kidding me??? the hospital never initiated any training or plan. they pushed it to the side. m
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
Shit, the fuck?! So hipaa is more important than their hospital staffs lives?!
@momo220106 жыл бұрын
I'm a new grad nurse in the Billings Clinic ED. They have just hired a police officer to be at our facility and this will hopefully be 24/7 soon. We have a 'bat phone' that will call the police the minute we pick it up. The police show up immediately to show support and BC encourages us calling them or using the bat phone any time we fear for our safety. They highly encourage reporting every incident, even to the police. They say we can't make positive changes unless we have proof that this is a problem. I am fortunate to work for them and thankful that you are helping work toward having better healthcare work experiences all around!
@coral120167 жыл бұрын
Had multiple times when I had to 1. correct an inmate who threatened my nurse (I threatened him back). 2. correct the C.O who wasn't doing his job. 3. correct family members who threatened me. Amazing I made it out of that Hospitalist job alive.
@darkshadow30726 жыл бұрын
Adebowale Prest I worked in a hospital that had 3 prisons nearby, so we often had patients who were inmates. Often the female nurses would ask me to cover the inmate pt because he scared them... and I did it every time. I also did what you did... would go in and set him straight for getting out of line with one of my female nurses... and then i would blast the COs there for letting it happen. then sometimes the inmate was the most polite person you ever met for the rest of his stay. Amazing what the comment: "Do you REALLY want to treat the person who gives you your pain medication like shit?", accomplishes.
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
@@darkshadow3072 I may be short/small as hell and a girl, doesn't mean I can't take a hit or deliver a good blow to the face. I would say the same things as you just did.
@singjosingsing5 жыл бұрын
You're AWESOME!
@megd75935 жыл бұрын
Your nurses and CNA’s (who rarely get the credit they deserve) are fortunate to have you. We RN’s can’t do it without our CNA’s, and having a hospitalist who stands up for us is a welcome relief. Well done and thank you!
@sashav68477 жыл бұрын
Z, in BC we recently had our RN registration fees REFUNDED (~ 350$ CAD) as our health institutions FAILED to provide safe staffing ratios as agreed in the Nurse's Collected Bargaining Agreement. I took a photo of the cheque i just from the union if you want a copy to discuss this. this issue is ALL over the place.
@smoorez87 жыл бұрын
I have had a patient actually start to violently throw objects in the room at me because I didn't answer a call light to fix his pillow positioning (which he was capable of doing himself) during a code blue a few rooms down. Was a new nurse at the time and mentioned it to charge and it was brushed off as a unfortunate situation but nothing was done. Wish I had realized then what I see now which is that being abused verbally or physically IS NOT a part if my job description regardless of the situation.
@deborahtschopp43377 жыл бұрын
I press charges all the time I don't care you cross the line I press charges
@catbee14525 жыл бұрын
I sure do miss the days of 4-point restraints and two burly techs who applied it. Nowadays, you can't even lightly restrain a confused, self-harming patient who has just pulled their IV out for the 7th time.
@singjosingsing5 жыл бұрын
When they pull out their IV that many times, I'm sure they don't want it - Same for NG tubes and tracheostomies... just sayin'
@catbee14525 жыл бұрын
@@singjosingsing A fully oriented person would communicate, "I refuse any further treatment." A confused or disoriented person is unable to understand that their IV, trach cannula or urinary catheter is necessary and will usually pull these out. Do you work at the bedside in the acute care setting?
@jerridalrymple24486 жыл бұрын
I’m a nurse, and while I’ve never faced such brutality, my heart goes out to this nurse who did. I work for a not-for-profit hospital where HCAPS rules our lives.
@gehennacub7 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a new graduate RN that my preceptor was literally threatened by a patient and the patient's family. They said they would wait for her in the parking lot and hurt her. The administrative supervisor did nothing, didn't want to call the police, didn't even want to do anything but tell her over the phone "handle it yourself." And even though the police were called, they did nothing. All she got was a security escort to her car that evening. That was it. The hospital still has no security where anyone can just walk in and do anything. Talk about not caring about nurse lives.
@Etta19997 жыл бұрын
A patient kicked me in the knee, I wasn't encouraged to fill out a safety report but I did, and now I'm being told that my knee injury is preexisting. 😑😡
@kellyangell49877 жыл бұрын
In the nursing home I have been spit on body fluid thrown at me. A patient with gang ties had me threatened by his homies. I am just lpn med nurse no backing from supervision, they do not care about staff. bottom line they will keep dangerous patients who are abusive to staff to keep the money coming in. I had one family threaten to throw me out a window for not moving fast enough I had 32 patients I was the only nurse. I was made to apologise to the family.
@kellieknox99155 жыл бұрын
I was sexually harassed and assaulted by a patient as a nursing student. As a survivor of molestation, it was particularly hard for me and triggered a major series of flashbacks, panic attacks, and nightmares. I reported the situation to my preceptor as was our university’s policy and was told, “It’s ok, older gentlemen like to flirt with the young girls. It makes them feel young again.” I wouldn’t call groping my genitals during a transfer “flirting” and I sure as hell don’t think this man’s ability to “feel young”is more important than my physical and mental safety.
@lissa783lissa7837 жыл бұрын
I use to be a nurse's aide in a nursing home. I was attacked twice, repeatedly punched in the top of the head one time, then the next time I was backhanded by a guy on the run for the drive to the hwy (surprise!) and it took everything I had to stay up and keep him there for HIS safety. I received a neck injury in the first attack, but was told to forget about it. 15 years later, still have issues. They did not even put it on the books. The problem, I don't know anyone in that profession, nurse, CNA, housekeeping, dining, that hasn't had at least one story of being attacked. Patients have even tried to sexually assault the staff. We know that most of the time it is dementia, but still, it would be nice if the admin would at least acknowledge that there is an issue.
@Wingweaversknowsbest7 жыл бұрын
I was assigned a "VIP" patient who was a family member of an administrator. During the course of my shift the patient punched me in the left cheek and left a nasty bruise. My supervisor went up the chain of command to report it. The administrator came down to my floor to state that I was lying and probably bruised my face through my own clumsiness. I left that job a few weeks later. I've been at my new hospital for a year or so and had one incident but administration dealt with it appropriately.
@olive18887 жыл бұрын
Wingweaversknowsbest I've heard that we still have the right to calll 911 if we are assaulted by patients. There has to be a loophole in the system in our favor.
@olive18887 жыл бұрын
Wingweaversknowsbest I am sorry that you have gone through that too FYI that was bull shit, I am glad that you left. So many people refuse to leave a job because of the pay, but is it really worth it when youre giving yourself a damn pep talk to clock in ? No.
@Wingweaversknowsbest7 жыл бұрын
Olive' The Windy City Witch Agreed! I love my profession and it's crazy to think I was second guessing my decision of being a nurse after this event. That's the main reason I left.
@erickagray63497 жыл бұрын
That is horrible! I am glad that you found a better place where your administrators will stand up for you .
@classified7737 жыл бұрын
So glad you stood up for yourself. Administration can be mind-boggling but so far I am glad that so far I never had admins treat myself or my team like that. The moment they do, I'm out.
@DrNatanaelVazquez7 жыл бұрын
A security guard in the hospital where I was doing my residency got fired because he followed the rules (the rule being that in that particular department, a patient could only have 1 family member in the room). The family was disruptive and aggressive therefore, the security guard did his job... the hospital fired him; FOR DOING HIS FUCKING JOB!
@singjosingsing5 жыл бұрын
booooo
@megd75935 жыл бұрын
That’s pathetic.
@claymonster12355 жыл бұрын
I know this is a year late and I'm in Canada, but this conversation us so so so important! I am a community support worker/psw and my job is to support people within their own homes with daily care, monitor and admin meds, attend dr appts, and to advocate for any patient needs. Two years ago, a patient began to show delusional/physotic behaviours. My admin staff, family doc, and patient family were all alerted as per protocol, but services continued. I walked in one day and she began to hit me and tackled me to the ground. I left, contacted management, and police then got hauled in for a discipline meeting for contacting police without direction and was made to continue daily visits. This patient continued to aggressively attack any worker who attended her home, but we were all advised that as long as she was compliant with med admin, there was nothing to do. Eventually she refused her meds, landing her in a psych ward at our local hospital. We endured this environment, daily for 7 months! A year later, the patient was released and our services continued for 6 months before she was unfortunately, overcome once again by delusions and paranoia. This caused many of our staff to quit, leaving us short staffed causing the remaining staff to work extra. 60hr work weeks became the norm. I asked, no begged for her services to be paused and she becomes once again hospitalized in the psych ward were she could be properly supported and were we could continue daily visits/support from us. I was reminded that if this happened, funding transferred to the hospital and we recieve some of the highest govnmt funding based on this patients care needs (the fucking bottom line!). Fast forward only 1 week from that conversation, and I am Currently at home, unable to work due to a stage lll separated shoulder and blown ac joint which will require a second surgery (already had one) and minimum of 3-6mo off work due to an attack from this patient. I am a 34yr old community worker, not a football player! Now as a Canadian, I am incredibly lucky to have free health care as well as receive extra benefits/insurance through my husbands employers, ensuring we still receive some financial compensation well I am off. But here's the thing: I am PISSED that we have to draw on these benefits as well as private insurance, when my admin team was recieving sometimes as many as 3 or 4 incidents reports daily. I was punished for calling police as mentioned before (others as well) and made to feel that I just couldn't handle my job by my own supervisor. Heres the thing, I love the work I do! I am exposed to such a diverse group of patients with diverse needs and 99.9% a dream to work with but now I'm at the point were I am now considering not just a job change, but a full career change, running from the medical and social service industries I am so passionate to be a part of. these last 2 years have been some of the hardest of my life. Im beginning to feel my mind is breaking just as my body is and am currently receiving help from a psychologist for 'compassion fatigue' (funny, I still feel very compassionate for my clients, but have 0 respect for the company I work for) The expectation that we as frontline health or community workers continue to endure this abuse is insane. The effects caused by years of medical professionals has left all of Ontario, my province, in a health staffing crisis. Our local uni dropped the psw and nursing program as it went from most popular class to only having 6 graduates between both programs in 2016. Many of Our local physicians have been forced to close private practices due to no staff, and move either to our local hospital or completely out of town. We need this conversation to continue. We need to protect our precious medical community as a whole and we need to stop the abuse from patients, but most importantly administrators and society as a whole.
@Joy4everM0RE6 жыл бұрын
One of my CRNs was pushed out because she stood up for the female staff against a male travel nurse that was way too handsy. He made all of us uncomfortable and made unwanted sexual advances multiple times. But it was the CRN that was called a bully and a lier by the higher ups.
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
Did they sue or something?
@Splitchipsonblack10114 жыл бұрын
Thank you for addressing these issues. I don't think the public has any idea what nurses deal with. Overworked, underpaid, no breaks, treated like crap. However, the administration knows but chooses to turn a blind eye while their pockets get fatter.
@Daddys1977grl7 жыл бұрын
you keep using laughter to deal with it. i love it. they always say "Laughter is the best medicine." I am one of the most favorited nurses on the floor and patients ask for me on my days off to be sure to get me on my next shift. main reason.......I am the cool fun nurse that takes time to educate patient in layman's terms and learn their families and let them joke as much as they want without feeling bad that they are joking about something so serious by explaining that jokng around is the best way to take your mind off it. And if you can't laugh at yourself who can u laugh at. BTW we just got a hermit crab today and my kids named it Zdogg
@ZDoggMD7 жыл бұрын
YES! There's a crab named after me!
@Daddys1977grl7 жыл бұрын
ZDoggMD the kids and I are excited that you recognized us. Thank u So much. My son loves Doc Vader.( and off course I do)
@johnswanson26007 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge Ascension, Aurora, and Froedtert all have a zero tolerance policy. It's a universal policy to the area both in the hospital and among us in EMS. All 4 private EMS companies in the city as well as the local Fire Departments WILL back up employees pressing charges against someone who assaulted them.
@samuraisoul26 жыл бұрын
I'm just hearing about this story! I do not work in healthcare, but am so grateful for the amazing care I received after my CVA a few years ago. A pox on any who would harm nurses or hospital personnel in any way! Thanks for the fighting for them ZDogg and I stand with you!
@brandiigiibson5 жыл бұрын
I'm clearly super late to this party, but the VIP talk really got me. When I was a brand new nurse I made a mistake because I was so nervous with a VIP patient. Before meeting them all my coworkers made sure to let me know the family was bffs with our CEO.
@aradnea19827 жыл бұрын
I'm a Canadian New Graduate Nurse just finishing my consolidation hours I I'm just going to be honest the nurses look warn out and seem to have lost parts of themselves I have seriously been wondering if I have made the right career choice. this is so sad.
@246catdiva7 жыл бұрын
nursing is amazing. if you're getting worn out its 1)time to switch facilities you work for 2) you're not taking enough vacy 3) switch departments. That's what ive done and it's been working out so far. You don't need to suffer at the same place forever if its not working out
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
@@246catdiva thank you so much for this, I'm gonna take your advice.
@elidasanchez44617 жыл бұрын
I got punched by a pt and the cops said that it was his mental state that cause it and didn't do anything about it. I didn't hear a word from administration. My director didn't even ask if I was ok.
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, see I start clinicals soon for nursing and still live with my parents. If that happened to me, I'd just tell my father and he would raise hell. Same with many people where I live. Everyone knows not to mess with me. I wouldn't be the one getting violent, but other people would.
@joeyINful5 жыл бұрын
Student nurse here! Started training martial arts last year for exactly these reasons. I worked as crisis response in a psych ward for a couple of years, and the violence from patients, coupled with neglect from administrators toward their constituents’ safety, is nothing short of fuckin despicable! My colleagues in psych and the ER better wise up and start training ASAP!!!
@ewang98914 жыл бұрын
We also had a case in New Zealand which made me wanting to leave nursing. A community mental health nurse went to visit a low risk patient at his home. She was brutally beaten, and had boiling water poured over her face/neck/chest. He told her that he was going to kill her and he was going to get away from it. And he did, even her lawyer told her that she was going to lose the case because he had a mental illness diagnosis. She was hospitalized for over 3 months, and didn't even get informed when the patient was transferred back to her area, once again for patient's confidentiality. She complained and got told she didn't have the right to be informed. She ended up on social media for support...this whole thing is just so messed up!
@chrismiller51687 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how poorly Healthcare providers are treated and the fact that admins will back up a violent patient instead of backing up their own employees.
@classified7737 жыл бұрын
Chris Miller A fellow secretary was assaulted by a patient's family member and he was forced to resign from his job because he refused to apologize. Only when he got a hold of lawyers they changed their minds and is permitting him to take ol' boy to court. It sucks our staff, especially nurses & docs deserve better in addition to our CNAs and ancillary staff. They label people as commodities.
@chrismiller51687 жыл бұрын
Ameerah AlZbi That's really sad that people are treated like that and admins don't stand up for their employees. I can't count the times that a patient has tried to kick or punch me and there are no repercussions.
@classified7737 жыл бұрын
It sucks and sometimes I think people who enter into Hospital Administration should be either MDs or RNs prior to becoming hospital admin because seriously they don't always see the bigger picture it not at all.
@chrismiller51687 жыл бұрын
Ameerah AlZbi Sad part is that many of the admins where I work have their RN. Guess once they switch scrubs for regular clothing and get that fat check they forget where they came from.
@classified7737 жыл бұрын
Chris Miller i think the term humble slips from their vocabulary when that happens.
@danielbanando51673 жыл бұрын
I was a teacher for 30 years and the same thing has also happened many times to teachers
@halfgoodhalfevil6 жыл бұрын
I work in physical rehab, multiple settings. I've known many directors who have quit because they were tired of getting punished for standing up for us employees or they were forced out with constant harassment or blatant lies that threatened their careers. Administration really needs to get their act together, places I have left because of the way management ran things ended up getting in big trouble within a year for them being so shady. It is important for us as providers to tell them it is unacceptable to be treated in such manner by working for places who treat us right, even if it is less pay. I work for a low paying facility now, but it has good ratings because we are happy and in turn give extra to our job
@frenchlumiere38157 жыл бұрын
I just want to share my support and thoughts with this comrade across the planet.I am a nurse here in Oz,and we too have this crap happen here.I am shattered that the care factor by management is the same there as here...ZERO.thoughts and prayers sister from a comrade.xoxo#nurseslivesDOmatter.
@katybrennan82225 жыл бұрын
Nurses deserve respect!!! The same with CNAs, they also deserve respect!!!! They all have my respect forever!!!!!
@robinmeede42117 жыл бұрын
that's why I'm looking to leave bedside after 7 years nursing
@shelleychandler31714 жыл бұрын
I have been hit, kicked, scratched, spit at, things thrown at me and more. And yes, many times it is dementia patients but no one cares. You have higher nurse patient ratios and with the patient population increasing in average age and comorbidities, seeing more and more dementia. You have to take the abuse, can’t restrain physically or chemically, keep your other patients happy-I.e. “satisfied”, and not let the dementia patient wander or fall. It is exhausting. I would love to see some of the people in the offices have one of these patients sit with them in their office while they work. You said nurses should report every incident; but, after a long, crazy shift-the last thing you feel like doing is report and do the forms-you just want to leave. Also, nurse gets in trouble for staying on the time clock and “poor time management” to complete the forms-seen that before...
@stephaniestiltner-foret79387 жыл бұрын
Phlebotomist are trained that it is common to be assaulted and or threatened. ALL of the people I have worked with have had both of these happening at least every week if not more often.
@stolman21975 жыл бұрын
I do medical in a drug rehab setting. Several years ago two employees, at a competitor were assaulted tied upand had their lives threatened. The county attorney declined to prosecute these rich adolescents because the families would fight it & it would cost too much money.
@robertmasty20307 жыл бұрын
The ascension health comment is true....they have a zero tolerence for violence against anyone in the system from the patient to the house keeper to the nurses and doctors. we feel everyone should feel safe in our health system.
@LaSmoocherina7 жыл бұрын
Fan of this Tribe Talk format.
@brasschick42147 жыл бұрын
In Victoria Australia we have stronger penalties (in legislation) for assaults on emergency and hospital personnel than assaults on the general population.
@kathyweewee15 жыл бұрын
It still happens way to often. But reading these comments makes me glad I work in Australia.
@nmc18593 жыл бұрын
Money shouldn't even enter into the discussion. This is too egregious of a crime to ever ever try to cover up. Basic MORALITY and ethics must come back to all institutions.
@elizabethdustin7375 жыл бұрын
I had a patient kick me in the stomach while I was pregnant. When I reported it I was told not to chart it in the chart but to file an incident report ( internal only) and was told that he was “really sick” so I could not press charges. Same week a nurse did call PD for a patient who assaulted her and she received a write up for “not using appropriate chain of command” what a joke.
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
What a joke! Seriously bs!
@jacirogers91095 жыл бұрын
This is terrible. That corrections officer, I hope, was instantly fired. We have to make sure all frontline workers are safe. My daughter is a nurse, and I cannot even imagine.
@deborahtschopp43377 жыл бұрын
Most security guards in hospitals are not responding fast enough and then don't really know why they are doing
@tengwarsoup88365 жыл бұрын
I don't work in healthcare, so the most I know is from spending a week in the mental health unit for aggressively wanting to kick the bucket on myself. There were some patients who had originally been belligerent, but when they got some stuff sorted out and were back in their right minds, they were incredibly ashamed of themselves and grateful towards the staff who dealt with them. If even the goddamn psych patients can realize they were in the wrong when they, out of their right mind, hurt staff, then it makes abso-fucking-lutely no sense for hospital administrators to not back up the people working there who get assaulted.
@RatorGrimender5 жыл бұрын
12:50 yes, exactly, thank you
@pridenprejudice20044 жыл бұрын
In the ER where I used to work as a social worker with the psych patients, we'd often have cops bring patients in, release them from arrest, and then want to be notified when they were being released so they could pick them up again and put them back into custody. They'd do this be cause the departments were too cheap to pay for a police guard for their suspect. Then when I'd tell them that they have no right to that information, sometimes they'd get pissy with me and my coworkers. Sorry dudes, but you can't have it both ways. If they're not in your custody, you don't get to breach HIPAA. Really pissed us off.
@jozzowozzoable7 жыл бұрын
These stories make me beyond grateful that my facility has the astounding security team that takes our safety so seriously, and that my unit has the rockstar management team that has no problem going to bat for us.
@Thor2911DM6 жыл бұрын
We had a visitor threaten staff in the ED and that visitor went to jail. No questions asked by the PD. The local PD is very responsive and protective of the hospital.
@deborahtschopp43377 жыл бұрын
She should sue the hospital and the jail and officer
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
Yep, I think they already did. Poor girl.
@darkshadow30726 жыл бұрын
I'm still watching this and am as angry as you are, if not more so. I went to bat for another nurse who worked for me who was sexually assaulted by a patient when she worked a different shift. Get this... I was the bad guy. The hospital would not help her legally or represent her in a criminal complaint. They told her she would have to do it on her own and then ostracised her. I was ostracised for siding with her. Even the nurses union she belonged to would not help her. Everyone, yes EVERYONE. took the position that it was an occupational hazard because she worked in mental health. Yeah... all female mental health nurses should expect to be sexually assaulted by patients when they go to work. my god, i wanted to vomit. Still do when I think about it. She was so good with patients and helped so many people... and she had to leave mental health due to the trauma she experienced... both from the patient and the hospital.
@nmc18593 жыл бұрын
I feel the same in that I really like it when people take pride in their jobs. Any moral job. High or low, seemingy big or small. People dont wanna do some of these jobs. Theres a multifaceted societal problem. I believe one aspect is that too often, people dont make enough to provide for their families. Then they take a job they hate or are not good at.
@darkshadow30726 жыл бұрын
I am an RN with years of experience in the acute mental health sector. You are right, a mental health dx doesn't excuse bad behavior. I have de-escalated even some of the worst paranoid schizophrenics.... yes some require pharmacological and other interventions... but that is what a Crisis Management Team is for. Where was the CMT here?
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@Jacdoc20027 жыл бұрын
There was a psychiatrist in PA who carried a gun and shot a patient who murdered his social worker and shot the doctor. The doctor was at risk for loosing his job. I'm trained and carry to defend myself but I would be fired if I was to protect myself or my staff at work
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
I think my life is more important than my job though! I mean, I'd much rather lose my job than end up dead! Only got one life, but you can get many other jobs!
@DenaInWyo5 жыл бұрын
I am going to be totally clean and honest here. I truly, as an admin, want to know what to do here. If I have a 75 year old lady who bites a chunk out of my nurse's arm because she has severe dementia, what can I do? If I have a TBI who knocks a CNA upside the head, what can I do? I can't put either of these people in jail. This is truly a burden on my heart, and truly incidents that have happened. I have my staff's back in every way that I can, and if a person in their right mind had done those things, they'd be speaking to the police, but honestly I don't know how to fix this. I work in a place that routinely has patients suffering TBI and dementia, and they are at times dangerous people. It's not just a matter of "send them out"..send them where? The mentioned case was a no brainer..that CO should be sent to prison. What do I do abou the routine violence that has been going on as long as there have been nurses?
@BandiGetOffTheRoof7 жыл бұрын
Lessons for life: When in doubt, just try to do what is right and it will usually work out best.
@LaSmoocherina7 жыл бұрын
Love to Stephanie. Hugs and love. Message me if you ever want to talk about anything. Because I'm a mother baby nurse, I have special training in the loss in pregnancy/fetal demise. You should not only get time to mourn. But you should get extra time because the reason for loss was JOB RELATED. I hope you used workman's comp and use workman's comp to talk to a therapist about it. I look forward to the show on fetal loss. We've come a long way. We offer the parents to hold the baby that they lost. We do a lot of thing. My hospital does this well. And it's the most rewarding as a nurse to help these patients. I AM that nurse that will step in. I had a pt last week that slandered me because I put the brakes on them hoarding supplies to the nth degree. REAL TALK: MD nurses have fought to have recourse when assaulted at work. I worry about my son who is autistic in a healthcare setting. He's very strong and I worry that he might hurt someone not meaning to and we'll be sued when really he just doesn't understand. I've had many prisoner patients that have just had babies and they always have 2 correctional officers and they've always been great. I CANNOT BELIEVE that the C.O. Didn't ring the alarm bells when this 1st happened. In my hospital we have something called a "Mr Strong". And our security guards rounds about 6 times more frequently if we have a KNOWN security issue. Like when a dad pulled a knife on a mom because they were fighting over the baby's name. Tom- There are anxiety dogs THAT DO help veterans with PTSD. Look up K9sforwarriors. I've been followed to my car by a family that was mad because I had to send an infant to the NICU for methadone withdrawal. Only now after 5 years of asking did we finally get granted to have ONLY our first names on our front badge.
@vernaramirez13816 жыл бұрын
I have taken a CPI course that is comparable to the police course. (Crisis Prevention Intervention)
@deborahtschopp43377 жыл бұрын
The rational for what hospitals do don't make sense I would let a patient go before I try to stop them it's not up to me
@shannonproctor36287 жыл бұрын
Where I live it is illegal to carry a gun on hospital property concealed license or not. A tech where I used to work was arrested because someone saw her pistol in her purse as she put it in her locker. She was fearful of the Walk through the parking lot. Because the lot was huge, it was dark when we came in and there was one rentacop patrolling in a golf cart.
@onepawatatime79254 жыл бұрын
Please do an episode on service dogs!
@forbiddenstar67 жыл бұрын
I'm an rn and I have been punched bit kicked ect. our hospital has no officers we have security that arnt allowed to have handcuffs or any weapons just a flashlight. we got in trouble for an officer handcuffing a pt that pulled out 3 knives and tried to assault the staff
@christinedrehman70377 жыл бұрын
I was wrtten up for not going to see a hospice patient as a tornado was traveling over my house and through the town. I stayed on phone with them and tried EMS who couldn't respo,d either rt weather
@majeshirkaku15433 жыл бұрын
I hear you z
@hmg287 жыл бұрын
Had a patient call me the "n" word, as soon as I walked in the room to say good morning. Told my manager. She walked in and apologized to the patient for the inconvenience that my "presence" may have caused.
@frenchlumiere38157 жыл бұрын
Sweety,that is BS on a massive scale...i am so sorry that you had to go through that.I hope that their presence was short lived.xoxo
@darkshadow30726 жыл бұрын
hmg28 That pisses me off when I hear it... I had a crisis situation on my unit once and had my staff call the nursing supervisor - who was black - to the unit. When she arrived, the patient yelled out "Don't let that Black N****r B***h come near me!" She didn't even have a chance to respond before I jumped him hard (verbally): "Dont you EVER refer to someone on my staff with that word... NEVER!" I'm 300+ pounds, white, and wear a long pony tail and beard (not your average looking nurse), which has its advantages in those kinds of situations. Problem was immediately solved and he apologized profusely to me the next day. I told him not to apologize to me but to the RN at whom he directed the remark... and then brought her down so he could do it in public.
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
@@darkshadow3072 you are the best!
@courtneygraham19056 жыл бұрын
Late entering this comment, but long hours and having to live far away from where you work (most people have to drive 30 min to an hour from work) prevents nurses, paramedics, EMTs and so on from seeking to take self defense or Krav Maga classes. Once upon a time, nurses' shifts were 8 hour shifts which gave them time to take care of their families, do self care and so on. 12 hour shifts help hospitals keep payroll and overhead down, while putting more onus on the staff. Paramedics and EMTs have more need for self defense and by the time I get home I have no energy to do anything but pick up the house kiss the hubby hello and go to bed before getting up to do it again.
@shabbygirl83627 жыл бұрын
Watch 'Keepers' and it will change you life on this matters! It's on Netflix.
@olive18887 жыл бұрын
Not A Beauty Guru I started watching Keeper yesterday, and it pissed me off. My heart goes out to those women and that poor nun.
@shabbygirl83627 жыл бұрын
Olive' The Windy City Witch I've watched it twice now..mm
@juliamihajlovich6 жыл бұрын
Disgusting. My goal is to become a surgeon and continue to rise the ranks after so that I can speak with authority i to these situation. This makes me LIVID! Just absolutely disgusting.
@staceyvandenberg85567 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the CNAs!
@darkshadow30726 жыл бұрын
Stacey Vandenberg some of the best nurses who have worked for me were CNAs. I'm an RN and I love the look on their faces when I get one who hasn't worked for me before and I go in to help them or answer call bells on a busy hallway. CNAs work very hard for little thanks... I always try to brighten their day if I can.
@sarahmerritt49317 жыл бұрын
I know this is in no way similar to this but when i was a nurse aid, i had a patient look down my scrub down while i was doing something and kept making comments to not only me but also the other patient in the room as well as that person's family. I was extremely embarrassed as the comments would continue anytime i had to enter the room. The nurse didn't do anything in my defense, the charge nurse didn't do anything in my defense. My unit manager didn't do anything about. All my unit manager said to me was "i know him personally, he's just like that". I always wear something under my scrubs and im very caution of how i have to do things a certain way so i don't get harassed like that again.
@pedinurse15 жыл бұрын
we had a pt attack us with an IV pole, he was old
@hrosemd7 жыл бұрын
Fuckin' A.
@thegingerunicorn1784 жыл бұрын
I’m so sick of this service animal bull shit too Tom, IM WITH YOU BROTHER
@juliachambers7255 жыл бұрын
A lot of hospitals are raising nurses wages to national standard level. Our hospital is a bit behind because we get increases as little as 1 or 2 percent a year. What’s the best way to ask to do a better job at raising our wages? Just thinking of what we get to do: all that hard work! Hm. Listening to your podcasts I don’t want to be silent no more in any areas of nursing. Our managers are very protective of nurses if they are abused. We got lucky.
@MrPaulosophy4 жыл бұрын
Laugh all you want but that's how I found my GP. Just saw a finger and I went for it.
@Celebfinewn7 жыл бұрын
That instinctive protective response that made you want to punch that homeless woman in the face even tho you knew she didn't fully know what was going on is THE SAME THING that makes people make threats to doctor's a nurse's. Is it ok? NO. But that is what is happening
@brendawalter48435 жыл бұрын
Super late to the party...but I'm a MA student. The content of one of my courses was literally teaching us that we will be abused, but we need to retain patients, so their behavior will be excused.
@wendyprice20847 жыл бұрын
Truth
@Jacdoc20027 жыл бұрын
It's all about HCAPS and paperwork. Nurses get understaffed at hospitals, nursing homes etc... and administration wants the reports to look good regardless of the care or safety of their workers.
@karenlewkowitz58582 жыл бұрын
Protect your wife and get her out
@suecbrn2 жыл бұрын
And now, she'd probably be prosecuted for something related to her own attack. And I agree ---those Admins - MFer's.
@trinitylivingston12865 жыл бұрын
This situation is really truly fucked up. I think that Sacred Heart Children's hospital is better, but idk right now. I love this video. I'd probably say you be careful with them or I'm gonna come after you in a joking manner. I have a horrible sense of humor. My dog has an instagram page too because of my younger sister. A person who stabbed someone, but is scared of needles, ok..Humor is an important part of life.
@kristiehayes88485 жыл бұрын
The CO in this case leaving sounds shady to me. That is clearly an obvious failure to do their job, but something sounds off here.
@majeshirkaku15433 жыл бұрын
Admin wants to do coz thet dont sue
@juliamihajlovich6 жыл бұрын
The miscarriage story....I’m done
@BhutanBluePoppy6 жыл бұрын
1. Can we get a link to the prior episode please? This is 1st time I've heard about this incident. 2. Did you do a show on the Utah E.R. nurse who was attacked by a policeman. She was politely following hospital protocol & it interfered with what he wanted to do - no other reason for him threatening to arrest her & forcibly pulling her out to his police car, threatening arrest.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8-RatSklZfeYYE.html
@beccaturcotte51446 жыл бұрын
They are not just for the blind, they can detect seizures, help with mobility, and more real medical issues. I am really surprised you thought they are just for the blind.
@Celebfinewn7 жыл бұрын
It's not ok to hurt healthcare workers but at the same time taking to hard of a line with the people who may not know what they are doing is going to make people more afraid to get help for somethings
@LaSmoocherina7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's miscarriage and sometimes it's fetal demise. It's all in how the pt views it. But I actually said I would not go work in the ED when I was in child bearing years.
@Sisterlisk5 жыл бұрын
Guy on the left is super cute, too bad he's married 😁
@kellywest60695 жыл бұрын
try working in special ed. bites, scratches, blood-borne pathogens, hair pulls...