Trickstar Final: Andrew Franklin vs Michael Guthrie

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Trickstar Final: Andrew Franklin vs Michael Guthrie | Tricking Battle

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@DimitrisDkKyrsanidis 10 жыл бұрын

Mike had only one round which was not good let's say... But all the other rounds were just unique, stylish, and with difficulty in them and a very good variaty of tricks and execution in 4/5... On the other hand Andrew had really good execution in all rounds and cool style, but no difficulty or variaty... For me Guthrie was definitely the winner without a second thought :)

@Novastar.SaberCombat 10 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more. I can't even really add anything--you hit it right on the head... I literally was just saying: "whoooaa, look at the creativity in some of Mike's passes", and was... well... you know, a bit less impressed with Andrew overall. They both did great, but... yah... I don't get it, hahah.

@BlackDragon69XS 9 жыл бұрын

bias with anis n danny they dont like guthrie

@grazida0276 10 жыл бұрын

Definitely think Mike should have won. He flubbed a bit but his difficulty was off the scales. I feel like there is some bias among Danny and Anis towards kicking :p

@BlackSandTricking 10 жыл бұрын

oooooo killem dante

@grazida0276 10 жыл бұрын

@Jammerjoint 10 жыл бұрын

Mike had better kicks overall imo.

@kanyinsola61 7 жыл бұрын

But he shouldnt have tried things he didnt have perfect im a second dan black belt and ive been thought that martial is about discipline and perfection is a big part of that

@hecttorPKFR 7 жыл бұрын

well in that case Michael's technique is far more perfect than Andrew's, Andrew landed his stuff but with more effort and it was lower difculty, mike also only touched the floor once, and he at least beated Andrew in 3 rounds

@simos7024 10 жыл бұрын

This battle reminds me of the one between Vellu and Chris Afonso. Vellu tried to variate as much as possible and showed new and difficult tricks, when Chris basically did the same combo over and over again. Here's the same thing except Andrew did was pretty good as well, but not nearly as good as Mike in general. I think the judges just don't want the famous trickers to win. :(

@liheng89 10 жыл бұрын

moad alami Actually, throwing a triple cork would be kinda cheap in my opinion, everyone knows what Mike is capable of coming into this competition, I'm pretty sure he consciously chose not to do it. He failed one round and that was enough to cost him the win, but man envergado punch bs14? double full punch bs12? That mega cork combo? tell me that's NOT breathtaking..

@bakirev 10 жыл бұрын

That last part awkward as fuck.

@Jammerjoint 10 жыл бұрын

R1: Mike barely R2: Andrew R3: Close call R4: Mike barely R5: Mike R6: Mike Andrew's great, but he showed next to no variation, obviously way below on difficulty, and took no risks. In short, boring to watch. Minus R2, Mike was just as consistent, just as clean, and showed versatility. I have nothing but respect for these judges, but this just doesn't make sense.

@AlaaKnowsAll 10 жыл бұрын

Like how can you read this and think this battle won fair and square. You'd be an idiot. Good job on the specifics man!

@ro-ck-yo5295 6 жыл бұрын

It’s called bias. Judges like this need to step back and take a look at the big picture.

@SGFAA 10 жыл бұрын

Michael guthrie won...

@damnameneys 10 жыл бұрын

wtf? why??? Μike deserved to win!

@seanbroderickfreeruning3526 10 жыл бұрын

I was SOOO mad Guthrie lost, but then i rewatched all of Franklin's passes, and I think the last two or three passes gave him the upper edge.

@PaulTong 8 жыл бұрын

Just remember, Judges are tasked with judging one particular aspect of the trick and NOT an overall performance. If it's anything like bboying, the 5 aspects are : Foundation, Creativity, Difficulty, Execution, and Conversation. Whether or not these are the five Trickstar uses, watch the video 5 times looking ONLY at a certain aspect. That is how you judge - non biased. - doubt anyone will read this, since it's old news, it's here just in case

@DinoArmy13 7 жыл бұрын

Paul Tong these judges weren't judging like they do at red bull they were all judging the whole battle

@joelschroepfer4094 7 жыл бұрын

Paul Tong I read it :D

@alfscott11 10 жыл бұрын

this was dissapointing. flow, get more competent judges next time

@SystemRichie 10 жыл бұрын

They are competent, but biased.

@alfscott11 10 жыл бұрын

***** i know they are all og's i mean more competent at judging.

@LSUMM567 9 жыл бұрын

Fancy seeing you here...

@jackli4593 7 жыл бұрын

I guess they should hire you, since youre very competitive.

@SystemRichie 10 жыл бұрын

The reason why Andrew won is to have a contradictory, unexpected end to the whole tournament. Hence, leading to more views and more attention for their channel etc. They know what they were doing.

@SystemRichie 10 жыл бұрын

Flow Andrew definitely did really well I must say.

@p.b.9787 10 жыл бұрын

Flow hahaha even Flow thinks Michael should have won. Guthrie has the best corks and jsteps in the world. Also his difficulty was much higher and he was a much more explosive tricker. But congratulations andrew

@SystemRichie 10 жыл бұрын

Amazing battle either way though and I am sure Mike is not angry about the outcome as well. :) respect goes off to them both

@mikezhang2511 9 жыл бұрын

andrew kick ass

@BlackDragon69XS 9 жыл бұрын

SystemRichie he was

@PunksElectro 10 жыл бұрын

WTF? Guthrie winner!!!!

@ParkourChris 10 жыл бұрын

Dude. Such an amazing battle. Michaels triple full blew my god Damn mind.

@auskoofilms 10 жыл бұрын

I wasn't sure the first time I watched it. But counting each pass… Mike 4, Andrew 2.

@radMisc 10 жыл бұрын

Just the mere challenge to stay perfectly calm when facing Guthrie deserves an award. To watch him fuck up one landing, knowing you have a shot if you pull off all your moves perfectly, and then do exactly that, is definitely enough to win.

@matrickster4314 7 жыл бұрын

Shout out to Steve terada and Jeremy marinas for voting for Michael Guthrie, he should've won with his difficult technique kicks and twisting. Hope season 2 comes out soon.

@TannerBraungardt 9 жыл бұрын

HELL YEAH MICHAEL KANSAD FTW

@Wynnifred117 2 жыл бұрын

michael kansad

@derekloche7719 10 жыл бұрын

The judges were consistent the entire competition. Clean tricks over difficulty. Think of each pass out of 10 pts with "a perfect combo" combining trick execution, trick difficulty then quantity of tricks factoring in hierarchically. The second you crash, you give up all the points. You lose the run. Andrew's asses scored: 6,8,6,7,6,7=40 Michael's passes scored: 8,0,7,7,9,8=39 Even though Mike had much higher trick difficulty, he completely loses a pass and kills his score. I'm not saying this is how it should be but rather that the methodology the judges applied was consistent. You can say bigger tricks deserve a lot more points but the fear becomes you have everyone just throwing big tricks and no one landing them just to be able to compete. Execution has to be top priority when dealing with competitions. If we want these competitions to be more legitimate,we need to adopt scoring similar to gymnastics or ice skating where the difficulty of the pass determines the max amount of points you can earn but execution determines how many of those points you actually get. tl;dr the judges were consistent, change the scoring system, spam dubs

@Novastar.SaberCombat 10 жыл бұрын

Hmmm... I see your point. Like... maybe a "multiplier" for each tier of difficulty? And perhaps a major "subtraction" if you fail badly or whatever...? In any case... hmm... if it is ALWAYS solely about clean moves, it just discourages people from thinking outside the box with passion, fury, spirit and heart. And if it leads to it becoming "homogenized" like gymnastics... it'll be a sad day. :( Not only in my OWN "low level" eyes, but... I can guarantee that the originators of Tricking would be sad, too. :( *sigh*

@Jammerjoint 10 жыл бұрын

"If we want these competions to be like gymnastics" There's the bombshell. We still don't have a consensus as a community of what we want tricking to become. Why can't it be like bboying? Bboying has evolved a competition culture that is COMPLETELY different from gymnastics, and works well for them. It even fits our cultural roots. I train with a lot of gymnasts, and trust me when I say the cultures are water and oil. Why should we aspire to be something we're simply not? A score kill for a crash frankly does not make any sense. Even in gymnastics this does not happen. You'd just get a .5 deduction, a whole point if it's really bad, but never a zero. You lose points for that skill, not the whole pass. If anything, cut it in half. Note, I'm not blaming the judges for adhering to a system, but I'm criticizing that system. Also if we're making the comparison to gymnastics, Michael should have gotten a lot of extra points for difficulty.

@Novastar.SaberCombat 10 жыл бұрын

James Liu very true that a "score kill" would be bad on anything other than simply not combo'ing or passing. I mean... what if you throw an INSANE combo... 90% of it is ridiculously off-the-charts, Anis-Jerm-Graham style berserk... but then on your final move, you bail a bit and your knee goes down. Or you even "roll" out of it. Soooo punish that "pathetic" combo with ZERO points??! IDK. Methinks not, but it's just my opinion.

@derekloche7719 10 жыл бұрын

James Liu I said if we want the competitions to be more legit, we don't have to adapt gymnastics style scoring or something. The judging as it stands doesn't accommodate for situations like this battle.

@Jammerjoint 10 жыл бұрын

Derek Loche My bad, I slightly misread your comment.

@3rdCoastAlliance 10 жыл бұрын

This is Sesshoumaru, and first off I want to congratulate both Michael Guthrie and Andrew Franklin for making so far in the tournament series, both of you have battled through some pretty heavy hitters to get to this point...so great job in that respect. Not that my critique is needed, because the judges are competent enough...but Andrew certainly won this. Here's my breakdown: R1 - Tie (debatable) R2 - Andrew R3 - Andrew R4 - Andrew R5 - Guthrie R6 - Guthrie It was really close, so close that if you make an argument about Guthrie taking the first round, then this contest would be a draw.

@williammoelgaard7325 10 жыл бұрын

michael had more variety and his difficulty level was much higher. that being said, andrew landed all of his moves unlike michael but well done to both trickers!! andrew stayed calm and executed everything perfectly!! :D i still love michael guthrie though :D

@williammoelgaard7325 10 жыл бұрын

just question: do they all battle on the same day because they looked a bit tired :P plus they also wore the same clothes throughout the tournament :P

@1337edit 10 жыл бұрын

Guthrie a winner and not a word more!

@BlackSandTricking 10 жыл бұрын

I saw this coming... I just had a feeling danny and anis were gonna get guthrie to the final battle then make him lose to make him look bad. But then again i could be wrong. good battle though

@AlaaKnowsAll 10 жыл бұрын

This is so true

@BboyDyme 10 жыл бұрын

You are delusional. Andrew clearly won.

@AlaaKnowsAll 10 жыл бұрын

Dylan P if you can explain to me the tricks Andrew did and then explain the tricks Mike did they're not even on the same level man!!! I can sit here and say the specific tricks Mike did in the battle that Andrew can't even attempt doing, aannddd Mike is still sharper and cleaner than Andrew. Don't get me wrong Andrew is a great tricker but he can't even compete with Mike let alone beat him!! It's unexplainable man

@BboyDyme 10 жыл бұрын

This video is a perfect example of how clean and simple tricks can beat elite level tricks. Guthrie's tricks are clean but they weren't as clean as Franklin's from what i saw. Also the small screw up on Guthries part costed him alot. Franklin's sets were on point, sharp, and clean. It wasn't a easy win though, You could tell it was a very close battle.

@cfausto88 10 жыл бұрын

I thought Danny and Anis used to be friends with Mike?

@MureTricks 10 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, Guthrie was the winner

@sageturtl4996 7 жыл бұрын

good for you

@lohan570 10 жыл бұрын

You all have your opinions and your opinions are all valid but according to this competition, the winner is decided by the judges. Each of the judges, despite their inclinations and affiliations, has contributed immeasurably to the movement that is tricking and is therefore qualified to judge based on the criteria that they see as definitive of tricking.

@h311purg3 8 жыл бұрын

That was beautiful

@AlfonWHAT 10 жыл бұрын

Mikee

@DKScrewGravity 10 жыл бұрын

How can this be real...

@martinbielinski1807 9 жыл бұрын

Michael Guthrie 100%!! he was just incredible, and definitely should've won! Andrew was very good, but seriously.... Michael is amazing

@Coreykoon 10 жыл бұрын

Mike losing = More controversy = More views Politics.

@lucasmcbride6271 9 жыл бұрын

lets do a trick battle of Michael and Andrew now

@34DaCandyMann 8 жыл бұрын

Dude I agree !

@TonyFA 10 жыл бұрын

That was a close battle, Guthrie dominated two rounds, but messed up on one of the combos which cost him a lot , but Andrews snappy kicks, consistency and variety got him the win for sure

@LifeofTheodore 10 жыл бұрын

Mike should have won. He used extremely difficult transitions and his dubs are so smooth.

@Creekmore 10 жыл бұрын

Why do you people care so much? They're both dope and they both put on a great show. If you people spent more time studying these tricks/training and less time getting frustrated over the outcome of a video, you'd be surprised at how much more fun tricking can be.

@kntricks 10 жыл бұрын

I agree with the decision. Andrew was a little cleaner in his execution. Guthrie became a little too repetitive.

@chrisxcreates 10 жыл бұрын

Guthrie also messed up in one of his early passes i think that might have contributed to him losing

@jnorthtwists 10 жыл бұрын

though andrew's combos were really clean and well-executed, i still think mike should have taken the win. his kicks were incredibly sharp, his twisting insane as usual, and he did some very creative stuff in there.

@akrobatapobyku 10 жыл бұрын

Michaeal was like a tornado, he was destoying everyone in his path since the very start and he lost at the end. Well, congratulations Andrew! This was an absolutely amazing battle. I like those faces of the judges in 2:57. And yeah, awkward ending, lol.

@NarvinCheeWood 10 жыл бұрын

GREATTT BATTLE!! but I do disagree with the judges a little here... Guthrie won this

@FaiThWii 10 жыл бұрын

ahaha the end was so awkward with Andrew xD

@sefaozkan8772 10 жыл бұрын

Anis Cheurfa + Daniel Graham + Steve Terada + Chris Balualua + Jeremy Marinas =Mike Guthrie

@sageturtl4996 7 жыл бұрын

suuure

@ZakFerguson 10 жыл бұрын

Wow..... It was pretty even. I can't argue with the results.....

@anthonysback1185 10 жыл бұрын

Don't worry mike will always be a legend!!

@Shack 10 жыл бұрын

Andrew killed it! So clean. And Guthrie has a few flops, Franklin was clean all the way through. It is not about what one person CAN do, it's about what they showed IN the battle. At the beginning the judges stated their criteria and Franklin nailed it.

@lucascrispy799 10 жыл бұрын

OMG!!! best battle ever!!!!

@IndustriaTrash-unique 9 жыл бұрын

gracias por venir

@jaycub4711 8 жыл бұрын

I don't give a shit who the winner is I love em all.

@bryanliptrot5466 4 жыл бұрын

Watching this 5 years later shows me how bad the robbery actually was

@doubledocable 8 ай бұрын

It's still a robbery

@ckpk 10 жыл бұрын

as someone said, michael guthrie definitely does harder stuff, and bigger combos, but andrews body form is so fluid and clean through his moves, not even a hint of correcting for being off balance mid combo, it looks lovely to watch

@kevinseiler2989 10 жыл бұрын

EPIC BATTLE

@akbar657 10 жыл бұрын

hold on a minute ! Mike was ending combos with snapu swipes here like he was eating them for sweets :S

@TheSrdjanovic 9 жыл бұрын

In my oppinoin the judges are completly wrong. Michael won this battle without a second thought. Andrew was amaizing dont get me wrong but michael´s way to trick was far more imoressive. Harder tricks were cleaner as andrews in relation to difficulty of tricks. and it´s kind of weird that anis and daniel voted for andrew he is their buddy and they train together and michael had/has some issues with anis and daniel. But anyway this battle was amazing both tricker went hard, but michael went harder. Loocking farward for the next JAM Battle ! You should keep Jeremy and Steve for judging the next Battles.

@nateclasen 5 жыл бұрын

Guthrie’s the only guy that mid combo can be like “kinda messed up that kick, guess I’ll save it with an easy TD triple full”

@tamarrio 10 жыл бұрын

3 judges stink!

@eremitico100 10 жыл бұрын

Bravo Dario!

@dillonehrmantraut 9 жыл бұрын

It seemed as if Michael had a variety of different combinations he was pulling and had a good style while Andrew based his whole performance off of his kicks and pulled one big move at the end of them.

@SteveDahlin 10 жыл бұрын

round 1: Mike round 2:Mike round 3:Andrew round 4:Mike round 5:Mike round 6:Mike

@derekata7769 8 жыл бұрын

that was an awesome battle

@MarioPoljakOs 10 жыл бұрын

I watch it 3 times and Guthrie win by 4:2 agants Franklin, but i dont know how judges judge this battle but oke. If you judge by using this: difficulty of tricks - flow - combination of tricks and kicks Guthire is winner by my point of view.

@xexu1tricking1 10 жыл бұрын

LA BATALLA PEOR VALORADA Y MAS DESCOMPENSADA DE LA HISTORIA DEL TRICKING

@thosealexdays 10 жыл бұрын

There's no way that guthrie lost... All of his rounds except one decimated, franklin began to look repetitive, still respect to both, it was a shame matt emig couldn't continue, he would have been am immense contender :)

@yannsalvignol4630 6 жыл бұрын

what is the name of this awesome music

@TheBangofett 10 жыл бұрын

Andrew nailed it, he was clean and fluid , its not about the best trick ,its about all the pass

@Nessy336 10 жыл бұрын

good, good. i enjoyed so much

@Markks3run 10 жыл бұрын

Mike is the real winner here!!!

@AidenShurikenHeckman 9 жыл бұрын

AWESOME!!!!!!!

@SamerMurad81 10 жыл бұрын

emig battled in 1 much only ?! i cant find another battle !! i was thinking about he deserve to up for final match battle

@SamerMurad81 10 жыл бұрын

Flow oh thats sad -_- injuries is the Taxation of tricking .... hope he is ok now

@garcia6067 10 жыл бұрын

Judges are very funny!

@Phazze_music 10 жыл бұрын

yeah Andrew was really good and clean in his moves !

@reubsreu 10 жыл бұрын

Pretty gutted about the decision.. Guthrie should have won hands down. Awseome series flow hope to see more.

@MrAndy24deth 8 жыл бұрын

Andrew clapping at Michael's last combo at 3:45 lol.

@70ME3E 8 жыл бұрын

yeah, how fkin classy is that? others had bad manners in some matchups

@sovady 10 жыл бұрын

Waouw What a battle! does anyone know the song during the final? I definitely love this beat! thanks

@loskikines 10 жыл бұрын

Parece final de telenovela mexicana

@batuhanhadortkas 9 жыл бұрын

Why the hell didn't guthrie win????? Guthrie should have been the winner

@sageturtl4996 7 жыл бұрын

good for you

@banban6947 10 жыл бұрын

Epic battle!!!! True inspiration, Andrew style is awesome.. but Mick win for sure..

@juhoman_ 10 жыл бұрын

I've never been fanbuoy of Guthrie but that mega cork combo was awesome. Now when this is over it's time to unsubscribe because I don't want to see any parkour on my front page.

@master1387 10 жыл бұрын

And thus....the beast is slain....

@hellwroughtangel 10 жыл бұрын

Amazing stuff omg this was so awesome! :D

@bbuster9 10 жыл бұрын

such a close battle! gotta say tho mike looked unusually off his game and andrew went in. Also still dont really understand why they put in a slippery layer of puzzle mats for the competition when the floor at JAM is already really nice to trick on. I think that could be a large reasons for the slip ups we've seen throughout competition.

@co2min 10 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know the song playing during their battle?

@Tharlef 10 жыл бұрын

Dope! Can I get the song plz? I would have liked to see a Emig - Guthrie battle

@movementcrew3467 9 жыл бұрын

Yeah whats the song guys?

@ilyassaadi439 5 жыл бұрын

miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike won!

@davidsantos5676 10 жыл бұрын

Hi guys, What's the hardest kick for you??

@seyepher 10 жыл бұрын

this was probably such a close battle mike had way harder tricks but the deciding factor was how clean Andrew was executing, really precise and powerful. if mike didn't slip up that one time it might have been a different outcome

@codak123ful 10 жыл бұрын

Andrew Franklin sticks too his style of Kicking. He was playing save and Gutrhie thruth some hardcore stuff at this Battle. But in the beginning he was fallling to much. In the first Rounds if Guthrie failed he recorverd with a move that fits in in the fail situation and so that knowing not noticed!!!

@70ME3E 7 жыл бұрын

hay, why no trickstar 2, 3? its osom

@gabbes 10 жыл бұрын

At least to me, that battle was a obvious win for Guthrie. I think even Andrew whould agree with that. He didn´t seem very happy at the end,, more like confused or surprised. But hey, Andrew was terrific as well, alot of variety and clean combos with good form.

@Jewpanese922 10 жыл бұрын

i could not have made that final call if i were one of the judges

@OG_Nimrod 8 жыл бұрын

Michael Guthrie shouldve one hands down

@Thenextphasemusic 10 жыл бұрын

epic!

@FredsonSossavi 10 жыл бұрын

Andrew franklin threw a lot of difficult combinations he usuallt doesn't throw just to stay in par with guthrie. Guthrie is sick as usually but he definitely didn't throw his hardest/intricate combos , so i see why the judges voted in favor of Franklin

@SteeVeeE_f 8 жыл бұрын

dopeness

@JeffHanesworld 4 жыл бұрын

How

@rodanyhernandez5758 8 жыл бұрын

The world knows the real Trickstar is Mike.

@fromzerotohero4236 4 жыл бұрын

2020?!?

@mccoymango6081 8 жыл бұрын

song?

@Antin0ob567 7 жыл бұрын

Gangster party 2 by Jan chmelar

@DKT101 7 жыл бұрын

MccoyMango darude sandstorm

@salt4life 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks flow for putting on these battles! was entertaining and good to see other people opinions about who should've won. bitches gon' bitch

@timthongone4410 10 жыл бұрын

OK, finally got the reason why Guthrie Lost. They wanted him to return in season 2 of Trickstar to win just so we have to watch a whole another season to actually see the king of tricking be crowned,

@tmtricks1 10 жыл бұрын

The judges, although legends, kind of ruined these battles. Way too biased towards clean, easier tricks to complicated and creative tricks. Who wants to see the same few basic tricks spammed in succession over and over? (I'm talkiing about all the battles btw, not just this one.) If trickers were to adhere to this kind of judging for battles from now on, tricking would be boring as hell.

@SGFAA 10 жыл бұрын

VAYA JUECES

@lopo8000 10 жыл бұрын

Rematch!!!

@ShionShinigami 10 жыл бұрын

Congrats to Andrew!!! He did well in this battle. I guess the judging was more like in a bboy battle, which means that the tricker with the ultimate moves does not automatically win, but the tricker who does his moves right on point.