Timeshares & Vacation Clubs | Understanding the Differences & Our Personal Experience

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Trip Astute

Trip Astute

Күн бұрын

We recently had one of our worst travel experiences when visiting a timeshare/vacation club resort (Mayan Palace Riviera Maya) near Playa del Carmen. We thought we would share our story, and explain the difference between timeshares and vacation club resorts.
Luckily, we were able use Chase Ultimate Rewards points to book a stay at the Andaz Mayakoba, which was the complete opposite experience (i.e., great customer service and fantastic experience). It’s a testament to how points can give you options and opportunities, even while on a trip!
Since this is a longer video, we’ve included some markers below in case you want to skip ahead:
0:17 - Personal experience at the Mayan Palace Rivera Maya
3:03 - Timeshares
3:58 - Vacation clubs
4:22 - Summary of pros and cons
5:23 - Things to consider when purchasing a timeshare or joining a vacation club
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HELPFUL ARTICLES:
- “Return of the Timeshare” (The Telegraph) ⇨ goo.gl/tAu8Bc
- “Is it Timeshare…or a Long Term Holiday Club? How to know the difference” (Go Timeshare) ⇨ goo.gl/yLPF23
- “Is a Timeshare Vacation a Good Value?” (Consumer Reports) ⇨ goo.gl/gkt3rq
- “The Truth about Vacation Clubs” (Smarter Travel) ⇨ goo.gl/jv5bMH
- “Top 5 Timeshare Scams” (Castle Law) ⇨ goo.gl/bp7EjV
- “Buying a Timeshare: Pros, Cons, and Form of Ownership” (NOLO) ⇨ goo.gl/K52FpN
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MUSIC CREDITS:
- “Magic Marker” by Silent Partner
- “Eagle Rock” by Wes Hutchinson
- “Fortaleza” by Topher Mohr and Alex Elena
- “Weekend in the City” by Silent Partner
- “Payday” by Silent Partner
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PHOTO CREDITS:
- Pixabay ⇨ pixabay.com

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@marydehaan4195
@marydehaan4195 4 жыл бұрын
Yes when we had a TimeShare and the fees kept going up every year--we just stopped paying the monthly payments and the fees and they did call us and wrote letters which we told them that we were not paying any longer--we decided to stop throwing good money after bad!! I would never buy into a Vacation Club or a TimeShare again. This is just my experience!
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. It sound like a nightmare with the increasing fees! 😬
@DestinationTimeshare
@DestinationTimeshare 5 жыл бұрын
We are timeshare owners with four weeks. We have bought and sold several others over the years. We really love our timeshares and find that they allow us to travel to places we probably wouldn't have considered before on a relatively decent budget. I know many people that love the Vidanta property in the Riviera Maya, however the Mayan Palace is the lowest level property they have there so the quality of the unit you got doesn't surprise me. The high pressure pitches are notorious in Mexico. They don't like to take no for an answer. Good for you for standing your ground.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know! Thanks for sharing your experience. I have several friends that absolutely love their timeshare, so I know it's a fantastic arrangement for a lot of folks. Glad to hear that you're getting a lot of value and enjoyment from your timeshare too! 😊
@bettyrubble5956
@bettyrubble5956 4 жыл бұрын
Destination Timeshare WOW!
@dmonks21
@dmonks21 6 жыл бұрын
There is no equity in a timeshare. You can’t get rid of them if you want to and if you try to change a week, you will be charged. Maintenance fees are constantly rising . DON’T BUY A TIMESHARE!!
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm also very wary about timeshares. Oddly enough, a few people in the timeshare industry have contacted me regarding this video and been very aggressive about countering my thoughts on them. It honestly makes me more suspicious that they have to go to such lengths to justify the programs.
@jvolstad
@jvolstad 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@xfhnhhgjbvcfg
@xfhnhhgjbvcfg 3 жыл бұрын
@@TripAstute they should be calling you and thanking you for making some people believe there's equity in a timeshare.
@darrenrobinson1929
@darrenrobinson1929 3 жыл бұрын
We have a travel club membership and pay zero maintenance and it was about half the price as those timeshares you're showing in your screenshot. We go to 4 all-inclusive resorts in both Cancun and Cabo, VIP benefits which include round trip private transportation to and from the hotel, top-shelf alcohol, private members-only menu (much better food). It also includes RCI membership where we pay $430 per week at just about any hotel we could possibly think of.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
That's great. Sounds like you're getting good value from your membership. 👍
@handyomarv
@handyomarv 2 жыл бұрын
Can you share your cost? I recently got the free meal by Unlimited Vacation Club but refused to sign anything before I did some research.
@nemo227
@nemo227 4 жыл бұрын
One thing holds true for any deal you make: always know how to get out of the deal. Whether it's a timeshare, vacation club, interval ownership, partnership, lease, contract, etc. you should always understand the exit - sometimes there is no exit. We are all trusting souls who tend to see what we want & hope for but, like indentured servitude, many deals are traps that should not be legal but it seems that they are . . .
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great tip. Always good to have an exit plan, even if you think it's a valuable transaction. 👍
@Vetionarian
@Vetionarian 3 жыл бұрын
@@TripAstute We just signed up for a club with a 5,000 base fee and 200$ annual. I hope we actually will see it used enough to recoup our money. It definitely looked like incredible rates but like you said they're probably blowing smoke up our ass just to get us to buy. I have regrets but at least they give educational courses/trainings to know how to use their website and try to get your bang on your buck. Seemeingly less shady than most I guess?
@PattyBlank
@PattyBlank 6 жыл бұрын
I have owned a timeshare in downtown San Diego for over 20 years and never stayed a week there. I joined RCI and have enjoyed yearly vacations at fabulous resorts all over the world! San Diego is a RED resort, meaning it is popular year round. Recently they changed there program. For the last 5 or 6 years I have had 2 or 3 resort vacations for depositing my one valuable week in SD. My maintenance fees are $500/yr and it costs me $139/179 per vacation, plus a small yearly RCI membership fee. Last year I reserved 2 2 bd condos next to each other at Disney World for 8 family members for $500 for a week, less then $65/person for a weeks lodging. I have stayed in a castle in Ireland, a small apt. on Crete, many times in Hawaii and Mexico, a room over the ocean in Moorea. I suppose I am one of the happy timeshare owners!!!
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 6 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience, and for checking out our video. Glad to hear that your experience has been positive. Sounds like you've really been able to get a lot of value from your timeshare! 😎
@ernestogomez3123
@ernestogomez3123 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought a timeshare at kissimmee, 10 min from all disney parks in orlando. I hope it has enough trade value for let it me go different location ...
@toowhomitmayconcern2831
@toowhomitmayconcern2831 5 жыл бұрын
Hey patty what is the name of the time share? Source please
@roycejay6723
@roycejay6723 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve pretty much have had the same experience with RCI. It’s worked out pretty well for the most part.
@mariodelacruz3089
@mariodelacruz3089 4 жыл бұрын
To much beauty can't be true, i think you are a timeshare salesman
@jf8461
@jf8461 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for creating this video (now 2 years old). We too had a very bad experience of being suckered into purchasing a timeshare/vacation club. The bottom line for me was, that I could book the exact same vacation (many times, even better) at the same location for less money WITH FLIGHTS. Huge rip-off! Whenever anyone tries to get you to sign onto a contract in the spur of the moment (no time to examine the materials), RUN!!! Also, most people that I know who SAY they enjoy their timeshare/club membership confess to me that they have NO CHOICE but to make the best of it, now that they have been pulled in.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's definitely a controversial travel topic. I have some friends that love their timeshares, but to be honest, the concept does not appeal to me at all. I'd much rather have flexibility by earning points and miles and redeeming them for travel. 😊
@jorgegruizsr.7712
@jorgegruizsr.7712 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, thanks for educating us.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad the video was helpful. 😊
@ToyaF82
@ToyaF82 6 жыл бұрын
I am a member of a vacation club. I haven't had any problems with it so far. I typically travel twice a year. One week in May, and one week in September. Luckily that's the off peak season in Mexico and the Caribbean, which is where my resort groups are, so I've never had a problem with booking or availability.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 6 жыл бұрын
+lfutrell82 Thanks for sharing. I know there are tons of vacation clubs, and some must be better than others. Glad it's working great for you, and that you're able to take advantage of the value! Two trips a year to Mexico and the Caribbean sounds awesome. 😎
@jz5791
@jz5791 5 жыл бұрын
What club? Marriott or Wyndham? Everything I’ve heard that those are by far the best with Wyndham leading the pack
@AnUneventfulName
@AnUneventfulName 6 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpful. Thanks for sharing!
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Glad it was helpful. Thanks for checking out the video too. 😊
@TheRoadwarrior25
@TheRoadwarrior25 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you explaining things so clearly.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out our video and channel! 😊
@NiagaraBTC
@NiagaraBTC 5 жыл бұрын
We joined a vacation club two years ago and we’ve loved the experience so far. Overall we will probably not save a whole lot of money, (since we’ve paid upfront to get discounted trips later). But we know we will get great service and quality resorts. What works well though is we’ve “forced” ourselves to take a Caribbean trip every year and we can take family and friends - who actually DO save a couple of hundred dollars compared to booking the same trip on their own.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Glad to hear that you're getting a lot of value from your vacation club. 👍
@kellisharp8411
@kellisharp8411 2 жыл бұрын
We just signed up for vacation club and we can price match, stack other discount deals on our set discount and they gave us 1000$ a year for 10 yrs in plane tickets to use. I know they are going to make $ going into this but if you do the math and are savvy with your membership you can enjoy it. I mean at the price in 6 yrs for what we spent for 7 days comes to 18,000 so if your not gonna travel I don’t recommend doing it. But if you are, it’s something to consider. Not to mention my kids can use it and family.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 6 жыл бұрын
We received some awesome info via email from one our viewers (Micha): "Great site guys! Only one point I'd like to highlight. I am not aware of any situation where a person gains equity in a timeshare. There are tons of sites that sell them at a steep discount. These companies/brokers help timeshare owners get rid of them so the new buyer can get a much lower price than the original owner paid. I loved everything you talked about except that while a timeshare is a form of ownership, it is rarely a product that gains equity. Actually, they typically depreciate as the property ages and people get tired of the very high monthly maintenance fees. Owners are willing to sell them at a loss just to avoid having to pay upwards of 700 dollars a month or more for maint. fees. Timeshares are different from Fractional ownership, which is a different talk altogether. Love your content!" Wanted to share since it's useful info, especially for those of you considering a time share!
@1942nn
@1942nn 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean 700$ a year for maintenance fee ? 700$ a month is way too much.
@XxAlexanderProxx
@XxAlexanderProxx 5 жыл бұрын
I just went to a Wyndham presentation. It was 4 hours long. They wanted me to make a decision today, but I told them I could not decide that fast. This is not something I could just decide in a couple of hours without researching. They did not look so happy about me needing to think it over. I just recently got into the Points and miles game. I was trying to decide what to add after my Chase trifecta, so I figure I should look into Hotel cards or other options. I do see what they mean when referring to everything costing more in the future, but I think I like having the flexibly of only paying when I decide to go somewhere (no maintenance fees). I could also shop around, and not worry about being stuck to one Hotel line, etc.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. The flexibility that comes with points and miles is worth more to me than having a timeshare. Well done with standing your ground and not being pressured into a decision. 👍
@fannynadeau7153
@fannynadeau7153 5 жыл бұрын
Well Timeshare's rules won't change just because you don't like them. If you cannot make a decision during the presentation don't take another one ever again. Don't waist your time and our time either, cause thank to stupid people like you, we miss that opportunity to bring money to our homes, and you must know that we only have one per day. Thank you!
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
No need to be rude, Fanny. I think a lot of people (including myself) have been misled into attending presentations (e.g., we were told that we were attending a free breakfast). Had I known it, I wouldn't have attended. And when I did realize it, I couldn't get out (i.e., they kept trying to make me stay and I was dependent on them getting me back to my hotel). I hate to generalize since I'm sure that not all timeshare or vacation club reps use these sorts of sales tactics. However, calling someone "stupid" is very unprofessional, and I hope you would have more empathy for those of us that get pushed into presentations without knowing what it's about.
@jf8461
@jf8461 5 жыл бұрын
@@fannynadeau7153 We TOLD the presenter that we were NOT interested in joining even BEFORE they started. So if they wanted to waste their day, that was THEIR call!
@jf8461
@jf8461 5 жыл бұрын
Anthony: Good move on your part!!
@danam4232
@danam4232 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct on the high pressure sales tactics used in the timeshare. They would harrass us by constantly calling the room or trying to get us to join a meeting if they caught us in the lobby. Once they get you in a meeting, they keep you for hours trying to get you to continuously upgrade. We paid a company to help us get out. I'm so happy we are free of that burden. I would not recommend anyone to get locked into that nightmare.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really dislike aggressive sales tactics. Whether it's a timeshare or a car, I feel like the pressured sales approach makes me uncomfortable and wary! 😬
@welovelibraries4556
@welovelibraries4556 5 жыл бұрын
New subscriber- love your honesty
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@thacandyhouse1783
@thacandyhouse1783 5 жыл бұрын
Can anyone share a Vegas experience with me, I was interested but I've never been through the sale pitch?
@MsJDubU
@MsJDubU 3 жыл бұрын
I like the tip on refusing to sign the credit card statement on arrival but with e-signature option is may be difficult today as the hotel can lie or sign for you
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
Good point. That's true! 😬
@gonzalo90arg1
@gonzalo90arg1 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this info. Great video, do you have more videos about timeshare? I just bought one in Westgate resort in Orlando
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! We really appreciate it. We don't have any other timeshare videos at the moment, but it's definitely possible that we might do one in the future. 😊
@vypersoft1
@vypersoft1 Жыл бұрын
So here is how I have managed to keep my money...I do not have any debt...I don't buy timeshares or so-called vacation clubs. If we want to go on vacation, we pick up the phone, call a hotel, book a room and then get on a plane and go. If we can't pay cash for it, it does not happen!
@TripAstute
@TripAstute Жыл бұрын
That's definitely the way to do it. Being debt free means having financial freedom, which is priceless! 👍
@martinshelton1247
@martinshelton1247 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, I do not have any experiences yet because I just purchased my timeshare a week ago, give me some time before I can response to your question. I hope I do not have good expeirnces because some people had issues everyone is difference, a wait a see game for me right now.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I completely agree. I have friends that love their timeshare too, so I realize that everyone has a different experience. I would love to hear your experience as well once you get to use your property! 😊
@JessicaJasinski
@JessicaJasinski 4 жыл бұрын
It seems like You would save money by just booking your vacation when you want to go rather then paying every month for a property you can only access 2x a year. Just doesn't make sense to me. I'd have to see a break down on how it's saving me money paying a few every month VS booking a resort for a week on my own. like. If I booked a resort for a week and it cost $2,000. What is the total cost yearly someone would pay into a timeshare.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
That's how I feel as well. We earn points from our credit cards through our normal everyday spend that we then use to offset the cost of travel. I think it gives us a lot of flexibility! 😎
@c4tze
@c4tze 5 жыл бұрын
both vacation club and timeshare raise a certain aversion when i hear these terms ... thats why i always only checked in to a hotel of a chain.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
That makes sense! I also get suspicious of both, especially when the price seems to too good to be true or there is a VIP club or presentation that they want me to join. 😄
@Vetionarian
@Vetionarian 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I had done my research beforehand. My wife and I just got roped into a club that was a $5,000 base and then 200$/year. They through in a trip with air fare and a week stay in Hawaii so I jumped on it impulsively. Buyer's remorse hardcore right now.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that! They definitely are every persuasive in the pitches. 🙁
@lvvv812
@lvvv812 3 жыл бұрын
Very very cute guy and we are learning too nice awesome deal lol
@dennisstone6845
@dennisstone6845 6 жыл бұрын
sorry to hear about your experience i own a time share and i love it i only had one bad experience with my timeshare only because of construction i own the time share for 8 years
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis! Glad to hear that your timeshare has been a great experience. I have some friends that swear by their timeshare and feel like they get tons of value out of it. For some people, it seems to be an excellent option. 😊
@PillCosbylovesPills
@PillCosbylovesPills 4 жыл бұрын
Diamond resorts is by far the worst as I have been to several presentations over the years.
@omowunmijoseph5168
@omowunmijoseph5168 10 ай бұрын
I think it’s better now…as there are options to use or rent out your points.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 10 ай бұрын
That's good to hear!
@omowunmijoseph5168
@omowunmijoseph5168 10 ай бұрын
Plus we only pay annual maintenance not monthly of about a $1kPA.I hope to provide more details on our experience shortly. Thank you for the video🙏🏿
@peterteixeira2893
@peterteixeira2893 4 жыл бұрын
There is no equity in timeshares. Just ask anyone who's ever tried to sell their timeshare.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny how some of the comments below are from timeshare owners and brokers who are adamant about their value. I agree with you though -- I don't know too many people who feel that they have gained equity with their timeshare.
@coreydonaldson712
@coreydonaldson712 6 жыл бұрын
Not all timeshares or vacation ownerships are created equal, WorldMark by Wyndham for example is at the top of the list and has been a blessing for my family and friends. Some presentations are awkward and pushy for sure, but also we as consumers are stubborn and close minded at times. Ever have to go through something a few times and get hurt before you found a better way or the right person? If every person gave up on things at the first sign of resistance we’d be far behind and unsatisfied. God bless and safe travels.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience, Corey! Great recommendation on the WorldMark program too. I appreciate your perspective and input! 😊
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
+My Everyday Lifestyle Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience. 😊
@diceflawless9115
@diceflawless9115 5 жыл бұрын
Bs. Wyndam is a scam and they will trick you
@RM-lk1so
@RM-lk1so Жыл бұрын
Well said. Not promoting or endorsing anything. But what I can't get is why all the resentment. They all signed. Take personal responsibility. What I hear is that your mad BC you caved in from the hype and or the glamor of having something that perhaps would allow you to be in with the more Elite. Take responsibility. Your cheep. You wanted free shit. You caved to the sales pitch. That's on you. Take personal responsibility.
@bettyrubble5956
@bettyrubble5956 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I heard they can get extremely angry!
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
For sure! 😄
@frankt9156
@frankt9156 2 жыл бұрын
Build equity on time share is the funniest thing I have ever heard. :)
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's definitely a stretch at best. 😂
@TheLadyaec
@TheLadyaec 5 жыл бұрын
What does the hotel you chose have to do with the difference between clubs and timeshares?
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
You mean the Mayan Palace or Andaz Mayakoba? The Mayan Palace is owned by Grupo Vidanta, which is one of the largest timeshare and vacation club conglomerates in Mexico. Our experience there prompted me to do this video since we were treated so poorly when we stayed there. I believe that the resort treated us differently since we were not interested in attending the membership presentation. I mentioned the Andaz Mayakoba since that's where we ended up staying. It was a complete contrast to our experience at the Mayan Palace.
@rodolphobaptista49
@rodolphobaptista49 6 жыл бұрын
I am a member of DVC (Disney Vacation Club). I haven't had any problems until now. For me DVC is awesome I receive discount at Disney's stores and Parks tickets and you can book fast passes 60 days in advanced. reedom and flexibility to use your points . The properties are very good and also you can use your points to enjoy Disney cruises. Disadvantages: To compensate the price you need to travel at least twice an year, villas do not receive housekeeping every day, the points are only good for one year,
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Rudolpho. Sounds like you're getting good value from your Disney Vacation Club membership. That's awesome that you're getting fast passes too! 😎
@wagdog1
@wagdog1 6 жыл бұрын
Not all vacation clubs use “right of use”... some are “deeded”.
@smcal1able
@smcal1able 3 жыл бұрын
6 hours at a Cancun time share presentation, and even bought it but changed our mind the next day and cancelled it through the credit card company which was very easy, but they still came after me with a collection company. Called a friend of mine lawyer and told me to direct all calls to him so could tell them to go to hell. They never called again. SIDE NOTE, At the presentation they even went to the restroom with me. Learned my lesson and now I go to get the money or show tickets and waste their F'N time. Soon as it starts I start with no and after they have heard it at least three times and sometimes more they give up. Done it at least 10 times now.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Sounds like you’ve outsmarted them at their own game. 😄
@davegermain8305
@davegermain8305 3 жыл бұрын
I bought Disney Vacation points for $80 a point and they are worth over $130 a point now. Buy resale and do your research!!
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great deal. I didn't realize that Disney Vacation points can appreciate in value. 👍
@patma
@patma 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. Glad you escaped the timeshare scam.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was a frustrating experience. 🙁
@wagdog1
@wagdog1 6 жыл бұрын
And also, resorts in the United States DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to refuse rescission as this is mandated under federal and state law. The period can vary from 3-7 days.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 6 жыл бұрын
Good to know. Thanks for sharing, Max! 👍
@ahmedadnan6144
@ahmedadnan6144 3 жыл бұрын
debunk the pros of timeshare: 1- ownership and build equity: in reality there is not build equity at all because no one want to buy something that hurt him/her than brings benefit. usually people buy it for large amount of money and sell it for $1 in eBay due to the maintenance fees. Ownership is huge con in reality because it make timeshare stuck with you forever. 2- consistency in timing : this is in reality big disadvantage again because it force you for specific time and we all know that life is not fixed. 3- flexibility: that is not true because most timeshare resort require more fees to be able to exchange it with others. Also, it is not guarantee that you will find someone have timeshare in the same place that you are planning to. In addition, there is huge problem with "availability" and most resort require 60 day notice to book for a vacation which ridiculous. Also, they will force you to attend more presentations every time you travel there because they only want your money.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience and perspective. 👍
@alechorn1109
@alechorn1109 5 жыл бұрын
Get in writing the cost of cancellation of timeshare in future. Fun for a few years until you get tired of it and want to give it back. Of course it has no resale value.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
Great advice! 👍
@efraincorpus8230
@efraincorpus8230 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I like how he snuck in the chase promo.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
Points and miles are one of the main topics of my channel. Since a lot of my audience is into credit card points, I thought it was relevant to include how I booked the Andaz. To be clear, I'm not sponsored or paid by Chase. 🙁
@Vlbhk91
@Vlbhk91 5 жыл бұрын
So the bottom line for timeshares are not the best idea?
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, they are not right for me. I know others that love them and feel that they get a lot of value from them. I personally prefer to use points and miles to book hotels and resorts. It gives me a lot of flexibility and options.
@JessicaJasinski
@JessicaJasinski 4 жыл бұрын
doesn't end up costing you more money to own a timeshare. all the money you pay into it and can only use it a couple weeks out of the year. what costs are related to the owner if they buy into a timeshare. do they get to stay in their unit for that week without any extra room charges. I went to a timeshare meeting once. And they are pushy and bullies. They will keep lowering the price until u say Yes. thank god. we were smart enough to say NOOOO
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a complicated product. I know some people love them, but I've always felt very wary about investing in one. Plus, I really hate hard sales tactics. 😬
@joseluisflores2332
@joseluisflores2332 3 жыл бұрын
What did you expect from a free vacation🙄
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely learned my lesson. There really is "no such thing as a free lunch." 😩
@dieselxdan
@dieselxdan 5 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of joying Vistana vacation club. Any clubs?
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I'm not familiar with the Vistana vacation club. Though hopefully, someone else in the community can help answer your question. 👍
@dieselxdan
@dieselxdan 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the response.
@jz5791
@jz5791 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t in my opinion. Only 3 with it from my knowledge are Wyndham marriot and hilton. I wouldn’t do Hilton because expensive and not s large enough network even though great company. Wyndham is stronger and more places than Marriott but either are the best!
@DestinationTimeshare
@DestinationTimeshare 5 жыл бұрын
We love our Vistana ownerships. We currently own two weeks that are part of their vacation network. Vistana is very easy to use by using StarOptions.
@More.fiya4eva
@More.fiya4eva 4 жыл бұрын
What happens if you ignore them
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
It depends. If you're stuck in a presentation, then it can be hard to escape, especially if they have transported you off-site. In our case, we kept declining the "free breakfast" presentation. The manager at the resort ignored us the rest of the time, but the front desk refused to help us when we had an issue with our room. 😬
@xl000
@xl000 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to go there, take the free breakfast, attend to the first 10 minutes of the presentation, and just stand up and leave without explanation. It's not like they're detaining you, right ?
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! They often take you far enough away so that you can't just walk out and leave. You'll have to walk a long way before getting back to your vacation. 😄
@xl000
@xl000 3 жыл бұрын
@@TripAstute you mean .. it's not in the same building as you room you've rented ?
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't when I went to a breakfast presentation years ago (in Hawaii). I was carted to another building with an awesome view, but not within reasonable walking distance from my room. At the time, I figured I would just leave after the breakfast, but it didn't quite work out as planned.
@jimvez00
@jimvez00 6 жыл бұрын
México holds the 8th place of The most visited countries. Riviera Maya, Cozumel Island and Cancun's international ranking is on the top 10. To people that travels with rci, interval, sfx can spend weeks in the best resorts in Mexico and mostly all of the have a timeshare.
@joyceinvento2466
@joyceinvento2466 3 жыл бұрын
Why is the manager annoyed when you told him that you already booked online?
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
It may be because they would get a commission if I had booked it through them (versus on my own). I think most hotels have affiliate relationships with specific local tour operators.
@patricklash7489
@patricklash7489 3 жыл бұрын
Misinformation Vacation Club's do have access to Timeshares outside the vacation club network also vacation clubs can be deeded usually in a Real estate Trust.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification 👍
@VILL4IN
@VILL4IN 4 жыл бұрын
airbnb, enough said
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
I agree! 👍
@PillCosbylovesPills
@PillCosbylovesPills 4 жыл бұрын
Stay away from the retail market for any timeshares! Buy second hand! People practically are giving them away on line because the maintenance fees are NOT worth it....in other words tell the pushy salesman NO! If it was that good, they wouldn’t have to force it on you!
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! 👍
@kylemanship2628
@kylemanship2628 4 жыл бұрын
We had to pay another company several thousands of dollars to get out of our timeshare. don't do it.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I've definitely head similar horror stories from others! 😬
@rosofficesolutionsinc1572
@rosofficesolutionsinc1572 6 жыл бұрын
LOL ........ can you say AIRBNB
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I definitely prefer an Airbnb or a nice hotel (via points). 😄
@ThePeterDislikeShow
@ThePeterDislikeShow 4 жыл бұрын
You spent 2-3 hours because of NOISE?
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was a full-blown party next door. Even with ear plugs, we couldn't sleep! 😩
@ThePeterDislikeShow
@ThePeterDislikeShow 4 жыл бұрын
@@TripAstute I guess I'm not the best person to understand. I'm an introvert and I find background party noises where I don't have to participate to be very enjoyable :) Wish I could sleep to that in a way.
@brandonleesanders
@brandonleesanders 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the curators of your vacation stay strategically retaliated since you and your significant other both declined their many sales pitches...
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how we felt as well 😬
@rorycalhoun6484
@rorycalhoun6484 4 жыл бұрын
ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET A GOOD TIME-SHARE IN LAS VEGAS OR ATLANTIC CITY? 🤔
@scottr2706
@scottr2706 3 жыл бұрын
Timeshare buyers fit into one of two groups. Those who know they were scammed. Those too stupid to know they were scammed.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@v2joecr
@v2joecr Жыл бұрын
You forgot how hard it is to get out of a timeshare & that some time shares will sue the children of someone that was foolish enough to sign up for a timeshare after they die.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute Жыл бұрын
Yikes. That sounds awful! 🙁
@russellphillips6461
@russellphillips6461 4 жыл бұрын
why would you buy a time share in the ist place .....why on gods earth would you pay for your holidays for the next 20 years are you mad....... come on get real its a masive scam ...no telling some people ....
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, timeshares just don't seem appealing to me either. I would much rather use points to travel anywhere without the commitment (and fees). 😎
@jkwill04
@jkwill04 10 ай бұрын
First off these companies don’t run your credit so if you do decide to purchase ur really not obligated to keep paying for them. I bought 2 of these before and just stopped paying. Paying a company to do something is not good. None of which has ever been on my credit. If you use then you use it. No big deal.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 10 ай бұрын
Good to know. Thanks for sharing your experience. 👍
@polkadotsbee6358
@polkadotsbee6358 3 жыл бұрын
anyone can refer me to a top notch vacation club? im very interested.Its about time to think the word “relax” after years of bloodshed hard working in the Hospital.Please anyone can help.Thank You!
@ogunsanyagbemisola8146
@ogunsanyagbemisola8146 Жыл бұрын
Try holiday lounge
@peanut_637
@peanut_637 Жыл бұрын
Vidanta exchange your membership with realstate a property or a condo right front of the beach
@AgentCathy
@AgentCathy Жыл бұрын
Explain the difference between timeshare, vacation clubs and fractional ownership.
@pamperkingjazi7397
@pamperkingjazi7397 5 жыл бұрын
Times share best thing ever
@polkadotsbee6358
@polkadotsbee6358 3 жыл бұрын
“So!…oops! Ad first lol
@Johnnydazguy
@Johnnydazguy 4 жыл бұрын
Ernest is being rather clueless here. People can't give away timeshares. There is no "equity". Timeshares are a scam.
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry that you think I'm "clueless". I was under the impression that you could sell or transfer a timeshare, which to me implies that there is some value that's accumulated over time. But I don't actually own one, so please let me know if I'm wrong. I'm also not a fan of timeshares and would much rather use points to offset the cost of our travels.
@petergugisberg4788
@petergugisberg4788 3 жыл бұрын
Just stay away from both!!!!
@bodyloverz30
@bodyloverz30 3 жыл бұрын
You went on the comped trip, yet refused to do the mandatory tour!
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely a mistake on our part. Though we checked in advance and were told that there weren't any strings attached. I guess is "no such thing as a free lunch." 😩
@burhanudin1615
@burhanudin1615 2 жыл бұрын
Ceti M
@woodburymanagerwbh
@woodburymanagerwbh Жыл бұрын
You agreed to go to a "free/discounted" trip but not wanting to listen/attend to their sales pitch which they were up front about... That's on you...for trying to take advantage
@TripAstute
@TripAstute Жыл бұрын
Ha. The trip was won by my sister during a raffle, so it technically wasn't free. But I definitely learned my lesson!
@woodburymanagerwbh
@woodburymanagerwbh Жыл бұрын
@@TripAstute True..those sales pitches they give ..."Must buy today" lol
@annavanderpump292
@annavanderpump292 4 жыл бұрын
Timeshare is not bad just because you didn’t like the hotel...
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I mentioned in the video how I know others who have found value in their timeshares. For me personally, I just don't like the sales approach and concept. But that is just my opinion. If you like your timeshare, then that's great too.
@charlesw1125
@charlesw1125 6 жыл бұрын
You appear to sound sincere in trying to 'help' folks, yet your video has fatal flaws. Your video is already biased before you made the video. Have you ever taken any statistics of actuarial courses? The reason I ask this is because, to make the video you are making, you should gather your own data from both owners and folks who went to presentations and became owners recently, as well as those who did not. Then build a report based on your findings. Your video only depicts your one experience, and you yourself mentioned that you've been to these presentations before, hence have already a biased attitude against vacation ownership: you seem to enjoy the discounts, yet choose to not own. Had you been educated in stats or actuarial sciences, you would have already benefited by owning and holding stocks with Marriott and Hilton Grand Vacations, as examples. Basically you would have almost doubled your investments from 2017 to 2018. We have queried our family members, friends and others who own with Disney, Hilton, Marriott, Holiday Inn and came to the following conclusion: They enjoy their clubs just as anyone being part of a Golf club, or Marching Band club at a high school or Kiwanis Club. We will have you do your research in the following, but let me share a little of what we came to find out: It appears that, based on over 10 million vacation club owners, you focused on the less than 1/2 of 1% of folks who are owners: basically those who complained about timeshare. . Let's look at that small number of owners; Wow! We see they want to stay at the significantly more exclusive resorts and expecting access, for less, when they could have the same access as anyone else by paying retail. As an example, even if you bought year long passes to Universal Studios' Volcano Bay, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS DURING PEAK SEASON, no matter which passes you buy. Why? Universal is a business! LOL! They will maximize their profits by renting by the day. Why should hotels and resorts be any different? Yet, resorts do give you the option to purchase higher club packages specifically to get better access. Same is true for many, many industries. We have a friend who was a financial adviser and now works for a large timeshare company. He, Miguel, very quickly found out that owning is better than renting, as long as you have money to vacation regularly. If you are unable to vacation, then ownership is not for you. Many of the folks who complain simply purchased an ownership without realizing airfare, dining and leisure/entertainment costs per person and solely focused on saving in hotel stays. Many of these folks earned less than 60k combined income. However you must do your own research here. Miguel also informed to 'beware of Dave Ramsey' who gains financially by sponsoring a 'get out of your timeshare' company. He will have you use that company to get rid of your timeshare for thousands of dollars when in reality you can do this for a few hundreds of dollars donating your timeshare to Wounded Warrior, as an example. Digging deeper, those who get out of timeshare become repeat offenders. How? They buy timeshare again, many do, because they miss the condominium style vacations at resorts using points instead of cash. Bottom Line: Always buyer beware, remember, owning is better than renting, and do your due diligence. The one recommendation to be made is: always go for the company that offers the best locations, the easiest program to use for you and a brand that you trust. Enjoy your vacations and let nay sayers and free loaders eek for left overs ;-)
@PillCosbylovesPills
@PillCosbylovesPills 4 жыл бұрын
Charles W sounds like a timeshare salesman right here! Stay away! Buy on the resale market! They are practically free!
@vfr090
@vfr090 4 жыл бұрын
A complaint video, misleading. Very little information about timeshare
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm ... the title of the video is "Timeshares & Vacation Clubs | Understanding the Differences & Our Personal Experience". Not sure how that was misleading. 🤔
@IAMBRIDGEFORTH
@IAMBRIDGEFORTH 3 жыл бұрын
Boi get to the point 🤬
@TripAstute
@TripAstute 3 жыл бұрын
😔
@ricardosaucedoramirez7316
@ricardosaucedoramirez7316 4 жыл бұрын
its. not. for everybody definitly not. for. you... you. diddnt. know. how. to. use. it. properly.
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