to add on the Koba part, In war of the planet of the apes, Caesar did say some of the apes that became Donkeys were followers of koba, i forget how many years after Dawn that War took place but Koba did still have followers of what he wanted to do so there probably is some clans out there and even descendants that took on his ways of thinking

No maurice isn’t the only orangutan

Proximus Caesar looks NOTHING like Bonobo. Is it a fact that he is a Bonobo? That’s the only way I’ll except that

Personally I hope they don't go down that route is such a tiring trope to make the children/ descendants of the previous protagonist an antagonist fight each other

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I think something that directer didn't wanted to give away spoilers to movie so noa might be Caesar distant direct descendants because he resembles Caesar and does noa have Caesar birthmark?

I hope we get a mention of koba is some sort of way because hes just as important as ceaser he started the end of mankind knocking off the mask off one of the scientist unintentionally cuz he was trying to get to jacob and he started the war with humans in the end gettinf what he wanted and he got his revenge in death in a way so hes definitely important and like how they are saying ceaser is held as this religious type figure to the apes i wondee if hes like their type of god to them as god is to us and koba can be like their lucifer like if they speak bad then one of the apes could say we dont speak in the words of koba or something would be cool but im sure the only knod they will say is that proximus is the same type of ape as koba amd the world the way it is now is because of him they will probably just brush him off over ceaser i hope not though

There are multiple orangutans even babies

Fully 7

This film is 4/10 for me. Hollywood needs to go back to film school hey. This is embarrassing. [[ spoilers ]] ↓ ↓ 1) The villains is introduced 60% into the movie at least. 2) The villains main objective is different from the main character - and thus zero stakes , zero conflict. 3) The main character should've been May and not Noah because of what this story is about. 4) The ideology of Caesar is teased throughout but very poorly executed. It basically just dies with Noah, doubt he'd inspire his clan at all. 5) Cinematography is 50% in the dark - which makes it annoying to sit though. 6) Clearly Matt Reeves is not the director of this film - it's evident in it's direction, characters, plot.