The Story of Christian Art as Iconography - By Fr. Panayiotis Papageorgiou, Ph.D.

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4 жыл бұрын

Fr. Panayiotis examines the history of Christian iconography, explores this art's theological and spiritual importance, and discusses how the West lost this significant tradition. This lecture was given at Emory University's Candler School of Theology (Feb. 4, 2020).
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@Handmaiden_Daphne
@Handmaiden_Daphne 2 жыл бұрын
Glory to God, thank you for sharing such a deeply enlightening lecture by Fr. Panayiotis. After becoming an Orthodox Christian my understanding of Christian art history has grown and it’s especially intriguing to see how the West continued to diverge from contemplative iconography to what would later result in a reactionary backlash with Protestantism.
@ladyvee589
@ladyvee589 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I have been wanting to watch something this informative about Christian iconography for a long time.
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad to hear!
@omnitrus
@omnitrus 2 жыл бұрын
I am watching many Orthodox videos ,however Trisagion films is one of my favourite channels !I am learning so much 🙏
@lindamorgan2678
@lindamorgan2678 10 күн бұрын
This wonderful presentation just finished and I am clapping here in Alberta Canada, just like your audience. Thank you so much Fr Panayiotis is such a wonderful teacher, I could listen to him for days such a wonderful personality and he makes things so interesting. I clicked the search button on your site to get a list of his video's and total binge happening here. Thank you so much for all you do, have not had a TV for over 10 years and videos like this is the reason why. God Bless
@JudithMatta
@JudithMatta Жыл бұрын
Thank you Rev Father Panayiotis! How wonderfully you explain the use of Icons and their varied meanings in our lives as Orthodox Christians; I remember as a teenager visiting Ravenna and seeing "in person" (his mosaic glorious in St Appolinairus church) St Justinian lovingly looking down ("regarding") on me in "introducing himself". Today I have a copy of that mosaic in our Chapel here, and with joy we sing "Only Begotten Son" and rejoice in his holiness! And having been healed (heart condition) by the Holy Panagia (Sitka Alaska icon) how I rejoice in living "in her presence" also as she brings us into His Holy Throne room of grace in Divine Services! So much to be thankful to God for, in particular His Glorifying Theosis of the humanity which we bear as we cooperate with His Holy Spirit in all He requests of us we pray!
@karolinaszczudlo9871
@karolinaszczudlo9871 8 ай бұрын
Keep watching your films one by one ❤ thank You so much to bring us closer Orthodox World ❤ really informative and inspiring
@natalienat7220
@natalienat7220 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you😊! I've been wanting to understand Icons because I'm a convert. You did a wonderful job explaining it. I definitely could see the contrast you explained in the end. Thank you again. Also, I really enjoy the Trisagon films.
@lisasmith1850
@lisasmith1850 Жыл бұрын
I love your grasp and appreciation of Christian history. You have a way of taking the audience back in time in such a real way. God bless you for sharing this vital message of Orthodoxy. That's always an inspiration and always encouraging. Even in this age.
@LK-vt2it
@LK-vt2it 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your teachings, God bless you ❤
@carmelahearle957
@carmelahearle957 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the chronological teaching of biblical art. I enjoyed learning
@gus..611
@gus..611 4 жыл бұрын
God bless u guys for share this with us. This is a kind of thing which worth a time here in KZfaq.
@JuliusCaesar888
@JuliusCaesar888 Жыл бұрын
Oh man this was an amazing lecture. Really well done!! Thanks for making it, thanks to the channel for posting it.
@rogerwilson44
@rogerwilson44 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Thank you so much for this!
@paulwilliams9207
@paulwilliams9207 4 жыл бұрын
This is so fascinating and we learned so much! A brilliantly presented lecture, and very well sourced. A picture is worth a thousand words, but in this case , the words and the speaker of them are worth just as much. Thank you. God bless. 🌹🌹🌹💙💙💙🙏🙏🙏☦️☦️☦️
@nancyincanada5553
@nancyincanada5553 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating and informative. Thank you!:)
@orthodoxsentinel
@orthodoxsentinel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for yet another highly educational and edifying presentation Trisagion!
@angelikigoumenis
@angelikigoumenis 4 жыл бұрын
Great video...thank you
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 3 жыл бұрын
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@wmnoffaith1
@wmnoffaith1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this beautiful and informative presentation, from those of us who will never get to see these artifacts. Thank you even more though for what you said about Christ. Many people today call themselves Christians and yet believe Christ was not God, or that he was not fully human, that he didn't actually die, or that he died but was never resurrected. Now, people are free to believe whatever they wish, but once you change one of these essential truths you have a different religion entirely; it is not Christianity.
@bretdouglas9407
@bretdouglas9407 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic lecture. Bravo
@George-we5yu
@George-we5yu 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Wish there were more!
@justian1772
@justian1772 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this available to us!
@violetadakovic9066
@violetadakovic9066 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much father for this amazing lecture! I have learnt a lot! Bravo!!!
@Kim221bbakerSt
@Kim221bbakerSt 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much father! It’s really good lecture. I got a lot of information from this video. God bless!
@patrickhartnett7253
@patrickhartnett7253 4 жыл бұрын
great video
@diananoonen2262
@diananoonen2262 3 жыл бұрын
This is so very informative so greatful for this presentation. Thank you.
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart 3 ай бұрын
Fr. Panayiotis Papageorgiou, Ph.D. is knowledgeable and has an amusing presentation style. The film producers have done a good job alternating between the speaker and showing the slides to great advantage, even highlighting the aspect of the images the speaker is talking of. It is a long video, but goes by quickly.
@maryrosehalim2541
@maryrosehalim2541 Жыл бұрын
Thanks soooo much for clear & historic information💥💥💥💐💐💐
@user-er1dc1ww3l
@user-er1dc1ww3l 3 жыл бұрын
Ευχαριστώ πάτερ την ευχή σας , πολύ ενδιαφέρον πληροφορίες.
@christianorthodoxy4769
@christianorthodoxy4769 10 ай бұрын
🔥♥️ Awesome!
@TinaICXCNIKA
@TinaICXCNIKA 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Father Panayiotis for this enlightening and enjoyable presentation...I learned so much and will gladly make a donation.
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@ZacharyZorbas
@ZacharyZorbas 7 ай бұрын
The sistine chapel and its depiction of Jesus is shocking when compared to Orthodox. Looks satanic to me. Naked, no beard, he could just as well be Lucifer. The Vatican feels like an evil place to me compared to Greek Orthodox places of worship. Thank you so much for this video. Fr. Panayiotis made such a brilliant lecture. I love the Greek Orthodox icons and now appreciate them even more. I'm an oil painter living in Aegina, Greece and I'm inspired by the careful attention to detail in every aspect of the icons. Everything was done with care, God's spirit and the renaissance just carelessly did away with all of that. I'm happy to have more of an understanding of this now. I sure wish I could be a part of Fr. Panayiotis' church. He seems like a Saint!
@LaureOlsonFriesen
@LaureOlsonFriesen Жыл бұрын
thank you so much. im not Orthodox but orthodox Anglican and love Icons. this was so helpful!
@justentertainmentj.e8987
@justentertainmentj.e8987 4 ай бұрын
I have a crucifixion fresco with mixed styles. It's metal frame is inscribed in Old Church Slavonic, it reads "To Saint Monk Ivan Rilski" "To The Same Rila Monastery"
@diananoonen2262
@diananoonen2262 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a video on how and why our Icons are placed in our churches. Second how can we set up our home alters in a similar way. This would be a great help for families to teach thier children. Mine are in thier twenties and we still use our icons to teach. For our family Icons are such a comfort and yet a focus in the physical world that transcends us to the spiritual world. Thank you for always making these wonderful films.+ Continued prayer and thanksgiving on your mission to witness and Bless us all through your work. +
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Diana. In the future we may go deeper into the history of Holy Icons. This lecture is merely an introduction. It's main purpose was to show what happened in the West and how they lost Iconography to the Renaissance art. As for the home altar, we encourage people to place their Icons in a similar way as we have them on the Iconostasi of the church and face east as they pray if possible (depending on the orientation of the home). The most important thing is to pray regularly and for the home to be the extension of the Church. To create a "small church at home" as St. Chrysostom teaches.
@lisafosse6031
@lisafosse6031 3 жыл бұрын
@@Trisagionfilms Ezekiel 8:16, “And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD’S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.”
@JRemedy82
@JRemedy82 2 жыл бұрын
Good Evening Brother in Christ 💗🙌🏾
@flearhcp
@flearhcp 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video , at 40:39 , that man in black on the right photo looks just like Hieromonk Patrick (Doolan) of St. Gregory whom i saw in "Iconography An Introduction" when i first took a dive into iconography.
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 4 жыл бұрын
The hieromonk in that photos you are referring to is Elder Ephraim the Abbot of Vatopaidi monastery on Mt. Athos. Glad you enjoyed the video :)
@flearhcp
@flearhcp 4 жыл бұрын
@@Trisagionfilms at 1:33:11 , John is holding the gospel with the blessing , did he become a bishop?
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 4 жыл бұрын
@Marcus Chung Good question! I will have to run it by Fr. Panayioti. He was an apostle so perhaps that's why.
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 4 жыл бұрын
@Marcus Chung Saint John was one of the evangelists so it makes sense.
@susanyoder8831
@susanyoder8831 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the logical organization and presentation of this extraordinary introduction. I hope you follow this offering with a deeper dive. There are so many nuances that only become apparent upon careful study of an icon. Basic question, what is the significance of the footstools? Is it part of an understanding of ruling, ie "I will make of make your enemies a footstool?"
@susansuewwilliams
@susansuewwilliams 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't the foot stool to show that Christ the Lord, the Triune God, is the Ruler of the Universe.
@yosoyyohoy
@yosoyyohoy 7 ай бұрын
Minute 49:33 Theotokos with Christ enthroned (still have to watch to the end of the video, thank you very interesting:)... but for now, Isis the Egyptian Goddess, is also depicted enthroned with her child Horus, the relation or similarities are known. That throne in some ocassions she also wears as a crown, her divine attribute. If we look closely that throne, her crown, also has that foot pedestal you mention once and again, even Jesus has one. The meaning or teaching is that in prayer or meditation, in Holy ground, both foot should be parallel facing foward and flat on the floor. Isis stool or throne also has a very low back so to maintain a straight posture.
@onelove6576
@onelove6576 Жыл бұрын
In the protestant church we also have water in the wine so it seems like a global phenomenan... verry interesting video! Learned som new stuff! God bless you all and much love from Sweden 🇸🇪💟✝️💟
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms Жыл бұрын
It depends on which denomination of Protestantism one belongs to. In many circles, they use grape juice.
@onelove6576
@onelove6576 Жыл бұрын
Yeah ofcourse. I’ve heard that one to but its not that common in sweden....
@dickiebanks
@dickiebanks Жыл бұрын
i have a few icons you would find very interesting.. one depicts the temptation of saint anthony and one depicts the naativity and the devil
@v.g.Orthodox
@v.g.Orthodox Жыл бұрын
Ευχαριστώ πάτερ. Πολύ ενδιαφέρον και μόνο από την εικονογρφια μεταξύ εμάς τους ορθόδοξους και αυτούς τους ετεροδοξους μπορείς να δεις πως ξεφεύγει η κατάσταση θεολογικά και δογματικά. Πόσο πολύ έχει περαστεί η Δύση μετά από το σχειζμα που έφυγε από τον ακρογωνεο λίθο της. Την ευλογία σας πάτερ
@BPMEmmelia
@BPMEmmelia 7 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@paulbaysa9133
@paulbaysa9133 Жыл бұрын
Non nobis Domine non nobis sed nomini tuo da gloriam. ✝️📖☦️ Gloria Patri et Filii et Espiritu Sanctu sicut erat et principio et nunc et semper et saecula sae culurum Amen ✝️🇵🇭☦️
@jofuf
@jofuf 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding statues, could you provide any sources that they were forbidden by the Church? I’ve seen people say they the pre-schism West used them basically in the same way that the East used icons.
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 4 жыл бұрын
According to the Byzantine historian Steven Runciman, in his book "Byzantine Style and Civilization", statues existed sparsely in both East and West but were not displayed prominently. They would be usually placed in coves in the walls and were not seen as 3-D statues. Of course, the Iconoclastic Controversy with its fierce opposition to any kind of image reduced the use of statues even further. As the church came out of that, statues are not seen any more much in either East or West. Even though, there may have not been any official prohibition after the Iconoclastic controversy, the Church was more concerned about their use lest they be confused with the pagan statues and their worship.
@Orthodoge
@Orthodoge 3 жыл бұрын
Wish you would have gone over the Russian style of naturalism that developed after Czar Peter the great and has gone out of style in favor of the Byzantine style
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, well the lecture went almost 30 minutes over time haha. Thank God for that. Byzantine art and music is the art of heaven and is a live testament to the ancient church and the civilisation that was developed by it.
@glenclary3231
@glenclary3231 2 жыл бұрын
This is superb. Loved it. Thank you for publishing it. One question I have is about the icon of St Mary of Egypt. That one seems to be different than the other icons of women in that she's not fully covered. Any thoughts on that? Thanks!
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever you see Eve or Saint Mary of Egypt, they are usually not covered. They are the only two exceptions in depicting women. But they are generally not shown in a way that is in any sense provocative.
@natalienat7220
@natalienat7220 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Father so much for your explanations! I have really enjoyed this video. Where do you buy your icons?
@nikolask7579
@nikolask7579 4 жыл бұрын
Για το Α και Ω που είπε ο Χριστός εννοούσε και κάτι άλλο, η λέξη "Αγαπώ " αρχίζει από Α και τελειώνει σε Ω επειδή αυτο πρέπει να είναι ένας χριστιανός να αγαπά τον πλησίον ως εαυτόν όπως και ο Χριστός μας.
@JasonGeorgiouGaming
@JasonGeorgiouGaming 10 ай бұрын
Δεν είναι αυτό που εννοούσε, απλά τυγχάνει να είναι μια όμορφη σύμπτωση.
@Thewatchman303
@Thewatchman303 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please provide references for the use of 'on' (in the greek) being used to translate Gods name YHVH as recorded in the Hebrew into Greek? THis is something that I would like to investigate further.
@dickiebanks
@dickiebanks Жыл бұрын
renaissance art is probably Tartarian and not from the renaissance. Also towards the end you show a painting of the birth of Nimrod.
@bramblecino
@bramblecino 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve burned several icons. Is that wrong? Forgive me
@bramblecino
@bramblecino 3 жыл бұрын
One was considered priceless given to my family as a gift
@bramblecino
@bramblecino 3 жыл бұрын
I was on drugs and unpredictable at the time. Believed Satan was telling me to do it
@Oilofmercy
@Oilofmercy 3 жыл бұрын
@@bramblecino if you have repented I'm sure God has forgiven you brother.
@danielamorar6300
@danielamorar6300 3 ай бұрын
Doamne ajută! Vă rog mult, s-ar putea să avem subtitrare in limba română?
@wagdywilliam1869
@wagdywilliam1869 5 ай бұрын
The whole world should go back to the earliest Christian values and see how far much was impressive and of great estimates that lift up the spirit of human being and have made him of a haighst value into the eyes of God. Regretfully, most of the world receded into what so - called now the advanced techs. Neglecting, the real virtues of Christianity on the earth. Leaving those behind and turning their back to all these factors of real life is a catastrophe. The only one who will regret for the loss of himself is the manhood.
@orthocatsr.8723
@orthocatsr.8723 Жыл бұрын
My father was Baptised Ortho Greek, but went Protestant. I've wondered if God wanted us to be Orthodox and that is very humbling and honorable to me
@judiemccall988
@judiemccall988 Жыл бұрын
Come back as fast as you can and never look back!
@oanapuciu
@oanapuciu 7 ай бұрын
Fresco you don't paint neither the icons .. you write them ❤
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 7 ай бұрын
These types of terminology are not canon. You can say you paint an icon or fresco
@kaloudasotirakoglou7592
@kaloudasotirakoglou7592 4 жыл бұрын
Πάτερ είναι μαμή όχι μαμού lol you tried. Ευχαριστώ για το μάθημα. Ευλογημένο να είναι.
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 4 жыл бұрын
Ο πάτερ Παναγιώτης είναι από την Κύπρο στην Κύπρο λένε μαμού. Εμείς ευχαριστούμε για το σχόλιο σας.
@kaloudasotirakoglou7592
@kaloudasotirakoglou7592 4 жыл бұрын
Καλό Ευχαριστώ.
@MarcelloVinsi
@MarcelloVinsi 9 ай бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:14 🎶 O vídeo aborda a história da arte cristã como iconografia, desde suas origens na arte grega e romana até os primeiros símbolos cristãos. 01:18 🖼️ A arte cristã seguiu a tradição da arte grega e romana, com destaque para retratos funerários egípcios que influenciaram a iconografia cristã. 02:55 ✝️ Nos primeiros 300 anos, os cristãos usaram símbolos como o "Ichtus" (peixe) como senha para identificar sua fé. 05:05 🙏 A representação de Jesus Cristo como o Bom Pastor e outras cenas da vida de Cristo começaram a aparecer nos primeiros séculos da era cristã. 12:04 🎨 O vídeo explora diversos meios utilizados na criação da iconografia cristã, incluindo ícones em mosaico, encáustica, afrescos e pinturas em tela. 23:09 📜 As cores utilizadas nos ícones cristãos têm significados específicos, com o dourado e rosa representando a divindade de Cristo e o azul simbolizando sua humanidade. 28:48 🎨 Ícones sagrados são janelas para o céu, transmitindo teologia por meio de cores e formas. 39:00 🖼️ O uso de ícones na igreja foi uma maneira de ensinar a fé antes da disponibilidade generalizada de livros e da alfabetização. 47:08 🌟 Ícones da Virgem Maria apontam para a importância de sua relação com Cristo, enfatizando a divindade e humanidade dele. 54:01 🪟 Ícones são "janelas para o céu" que ensinam a fé, têm um efeito santificante no observador e transcendem o tempo e o espaço. 57:31 🌟 A iconografia ortodoxa é essencial para criar espaços sagrados e não é usada para eventos seculares, sendo focada na adoração. 58:32 🖼️ Ícones são diferentes da arte convencional, removendo sensualidade e destacando aspectos espirituais. 59:38 🖌️ Alguns ícones têm movimento, como um ícone de Cristo segurado pela Mãe, o que é raro. 01:00:00 ✝️ Ícones refletem características espirituais, não a idade física, visto que Cristo é eterno. 01:02:29 🎨 A iconografia é feita de maneira orante e é uma expressão da fé cristã através de um meio colorido. 01:04:20 🎭 Os ícones enfatizam a individualidade de cada pessoa, refletindo a crença de que somos pessoas únicas perante Deus. 01:07:04 🌟 A iconografia transcende o tempo, representando eventos espirituais que vão além do tempo e espaço físico. 01:18:36 🌍 Ícones representam a universalidade da fé, com os Magos simbolizando todas as nações, culturas e tradições. 01:24:12 💤 O termo "cemitério" vem da palavra grega "key material," que significa "lugar onde as pessoas estão dormindo" em referência à crença na ressurreição. 01:24:37 🕊️ Ícones da Dormição da Virgem Maria mostram a entrega de sua alma a Cristo, seja ela segurada por Ele ou segurando Sua alma. 01:24:51 🖼️ A iconografia cristã é uma representação bidimensional que usa símbolos e elementos para transmitir significados espirituais profundos. 01:25:26 🐟 Na iconografia, a representação da água e dos peixes de forma elevada indica que a imagem é bidimensional, não tridimensional. 01:26:20 🕊️ A representação da Trindade Divina na iconografia cristã é um dos maiores milagres da fé, com Deus Pai, Filho e Espírito Santo. 01:27:13 🎨 Em iconografia, é comum usar elementos de diferentes histórias para preencher espaços vazios e criar significados simbólicos. 01:28:40 🕊️ Pentecostes é uma festa cristã importante representada em ícones com chamas sobre as cabeças dos apóstolos. 01:31:00 😢 A crucificação é um tema emotivo na iconografia cristã, destacando a tristeza de personagens como João, a Virgem Maria e outras testemunhas. 01:34:43 🗿 Durante o Renascimento, as estátuas foram reintroduzidas na arte cristã, marcando uma mudança em direção ao humanismo e ao realismo. 01:37:35 🖼️ A arte cristã durante o Renascimento se tornou mais humanista, sensual e perdeu elementos espirituais e místicos presentes na iconografia anterior. 01:50:57 🏛️ O Renascimento misturou elementos cristãos com mitos pagãos, resultando em representações como a dos mitos de Caronte e Minos na Capela Sistina. 01:52:11 💄 A publicidade moderna transforma imagens de pessoas, como Cindy Crawford, para promover produtos, destacando atributos físicos e sedução, em contraste com a simplicidade da iconografia cristã. Made with HARPA AI
@susansuewwilliams
@susansuewwilliams 2 жыл бұрын
After converting to Orthodoxy, I realized all I learnt for my History Degree was worthless garbage. Really!! Because I never learnt about Byzantine history and how it had saved Europe. Why would the catholic church want Byzantine History, Orthodox history taught?!?!? And to truly understand 1453, has got to be the most saddest moment in the world's history. And now the muhammadians have taken back Hagia Sophia!! Lord Jesus Christ Son of God have mercy on us, sinners.
@Simon-vk2lr
@Simon-vk2lr 4 жыл бұрын
Was jesus Christ black or Middle Eastern Arab ( I'm very sure that he was not White)
@Trisagionfilms
@Trisagionfilms 4 жыл бұрын
He was neither an Arab nor was he black. He was a middle eastern Jew. Why are so many people preoccupied with this subject?
@Simon-vk2lr
@Simon-vk2lr 4 жыл бұрын
@@Trisagionfilms it's just because people are tired of God being portrayed as white and Satan as black and plus there were tons of Africans in Middle East specially Israel origin from horn africa
@lessthandust
@lessthandust 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Simon-vk2lr On the orthodox icons Christ doesn't look like a western or northern european. He has a more dark skin colour. In general: It doesn't matter if he was white, black or whatever. God became man - he took upon himself human nature - a that's what is important.
@binauralattack
@binauralattack 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Simon-vk2lr If you look at most Religious art which has spread to different countries you will find that the central figures in that Religion will take on the ethnic identity of that country. For example the Buddha was from Nepal but look at the Japanese or Chinese art where he looks distinctly East Asian. Another example would be depictions of Jesus as black in Ethiopian art or the Hindu Gods as South East Asian in the temples of Angkor Wat (Cambodia) Of course there have been depictions which have been linked to theories of racial superiority but you can't apply it so generally.
@khealer
@khealer 3 жыл бұрын
@Nana This is an Orthodox Church and an Orthodox lecture! Catholics do w/e they want in their curches. It means nothing to the Orthodox. Catholics do half-naked men circus representation in their temples attended by the pope. Orthodox don't. So there's all the apostates and heretics and then there's the Orthodox Church. The Theotokos is not an indian. That's why there are strict canons in iconography. So not anyone who feels creative goes crazy in blasphemy. --- And what you linked here is not a church, it's a circus. Well lit one if I may say.
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