Triumph's 2024 Speed 400 & Scrambler 400 X could be the BEST value bikes on sale

Triumph's 2024 Speed 400 & Scrambler 400 X could be the BEST value bikes on sale | MCN Review

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4 ай бұрын

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Road Tester Carl Stevens has been out on the launch of the 2024 Triumph Speed 400 and Scrambler 400 X. Watch the launch video above, and read our written reviews below:
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- Scrambler 400 X: www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-r...
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@BlackHawkTejas 3 ай бұрын

The co-engineering with Bajaj is what has enabled this bikes from Triumph! One off my friends work for Bajaj R&D & the Bajaj played a huge role for these platforms. Obviously Triumph won't openly accept it or say it for obvious reasons, to market it as a premium brand products. Bajaj's contribution is hugely under-appreciated by such reviewers! Theu managed everything from suspension to engine materials to everything in between!

@matthewfindlay2242 17 күн бұрын

All manufacturers have tie ins with other company's especially on the sub continent,are you really trying tell me triumph don't know how to design and build motorcycles? They have been around a lot longer than bajaj who should be grateful for what they can learn from triumph not the other way round

@jonboy87 10 күн бұрын

So you're saying they are junk? Got it

@Gaurav_9339 4 ай бұрын

European design with Indian manufacturing seems to be new trend. Started with KTM, then Royal Enfield, Triumph, Aprilia. Happy to have so many options to choose from.

@59jalex 4 ай бұрын

It's all about price. Indian wages are so much lower than the UK etc. Which helps lower the production costs. That's good for customers, as long as they are built to a standard.

@SurajSinghTomarArya 4 ай бұрын

"Then Royal Enfield" Enfield was doing this since half a century ago.

@Gaurav_9339 4 ай бұрын

@@SurajSinghTomarArya i was talking about the trend which began for royal Enfield once they started making 650 twins. Earlier they weren't exporting much.

@BlackHawkTejas 3 ай бұрын

@@59jalex It's what the company wants! If they are only going aggressively on price there will be some compromise but if the company wants quality also it will depend on their QC &QA. It's all about investment & what they want! They are built to a good standard!

@siwynjones 3 ай бұрын

@@BlackHawkTejasThe only thing the company wants is massive profit margins, let’s be honest.

@tonybarton3746 4 ай бұрын

Have to be scrambler in the uk , to navigate the potholes 😂😂

@akshat2288 4 ай бұрын

Done 2000Km on mine, the S400 is a great & nimble bike - it has its shortcomings like the odd speedo & buzz around 6k rpm, but it boils down to a really honest, fun bike with great build and paint quality. 👍🏻

@akashwilliam9717 4 ай бұрын

Proud owner of scrambler400x …its an awesome bike👍🏻

@Bob-_-Smith 4 ай бұрын

I think these will steal a lot of sales from Royal Enfield, these are for people who love the Enfields but just need that bit more power.

@the.communist 4 ай бұрын

The RE 350 are just to limited, they should have make the bikes do 80mph, at least

@Bob-_-Smith 4 ай бұрын

@@the.communist I really wanted to buy a Royal Enfield, I love the look of them but 20 horse power put me off, and the 650 range is too much for what I need.

@Sahu6492 4 ай бұрын

@@Bob-_-Smith RE will probably have an answer when the Scram 450 launches in next 3-4 months. But until then these will sell like hot cakes.

@KevBoughen 4 ай бұрын

There's also the new 400cc Husky twins

@kenhoward3512 4 ай бұрын

The reason the Enflields have less power is because that's the price paid for having a simpler, lower-compression, air/oil-cooled engine with easy-to-adjust (though more frequent) screw-and-locknut valves. It was a choice R.E. made, for those who prefer the simplicity over a liquid-cooled, multi-valve engine for *this* type of bike.

@onefastcyclist 4 ай бұрын

Triumph nailed it again!

@andrewlucas6214 4 ай бұрын

Great revue and lovely bikes. Enfields are a bit to old skool for me but, these are bang on.

@Vegplot 4 ай бұрын

There's still the underlying message that these bikes are good for days out, a bit of fun, or commuting. I feel, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the motorcycle press is still a bit snobbish about smaller capacity machines are not so capable as their larger more sophisticated and expensive counterparts for touring and multi-day trips.

@dilbertisms 4 ай бұрын

single cylinder machines will have moe vibration as engine cannot be balancd well (only one piston moving) . So handle bar vibration etc. will be more. If you want smooth, small capacity, Suzuki GSX 250r is an option.

@Vegplot 4 ай бұрын

@@dilbertisms The Speed and Scrambler X engines are very smooth. What I'm saying is these bikes are just as good as their bigger brethren in many ways and that includes long distance work. Up to legal speed limits these bikes are easier to handle, have good power to weight ratio, and economic.

@POVwithRC 3 ай бұрын

@@VegplotSorry, no, these are not for touring or multi-day.

@Vegplot 3 ай бұрын

@@POVwithRCI completely disagree. I've toured on 125cc bikes. Touring is what you make it, you don't need a mile muncher or cargo carrier to be able to tour. Ted Simon famously did his RTW on 500cc 1973 Tiger 100.

@flesz_ 2 ай бұрын

People go around the world in nissan Micras@@POVwithRC

@teamtempest844 4 ай бұрын

Triumph, as British as a call from Microsoft, India!

@davidbrayshaw3529 4 ай бұрын

"Yes, I've turned my motorcycle off, how many times do I have to say it, IT WONT TURN ON AGAIN!!!"......."I'm sorry sir, the problem is in your fuel, we cannot help you, you will have to contact your fuel provider".....

@barriewilliams4526 15 күн бұрын

Conceived and designed by Triumph in Hinckley, UK, Which makes it pretty British

@teamtempest844 15 күн бұрын

@@barriewilliams4526 Chicken Tikka Masala... English dish... still call it an Indian takeaway. If you believe Triumph is British... good luck.

@sunilmohite5776 4 ай бұрын

Owning Speed 400 for more than a month now. And let me assure everyone questioning about quality, it was designed by Triumph without cutting any corners. It is assembled in India by Bajaj for the sake of mass production and manufacturing costs reduction. It is not a lesser Triump and it is being sold and serviced by Triumph dealership network only unlike the KTM and Husqvarna. So they are different. And once you start riding it you will feel that quality and also the support Triumph is providing. You will stop the argument of RE v Triumph. They are that level of value for money products

@Bounce625 4 ай бұрын

I’ve rode one and it felt rough and nasty

@SurajSinghTomarArya 4 ай бұрын

There is no RE vs Triumph in this segment. Both are very different. One is a long stroke thumper which is a rare engine configuration along with rare British looks, the other is a retooled Duke with retro looks. Now Bajaj is launching a Pulsar 400NS based on this engine within next 2 months.

@jamesnoonan7450 9 күн бұрын

I'm still a novice rider currently having a RE Meteor 350. I can honestly say I am going to be purchasing a triumph speed 409 in the not to distant future

@dardobartoli 4 ай бұрын

Excellent review and well presented....

@Banditmanuk 4 ай бұрын

Nice review of what look like good value bikes. I just wonder if the mainstream motorcycle community are being sidelined when this launch video comes out after so many bikes are sold and every KZfaqr has had their go?

@walt7518 4 ай бұрын

They sound excellent. I thought they were well built on seeing them at a dealer last year. I was really looking forward to a test ride followed by a purchase but the payload is just too low for me at 176Kg, bummer.

@903lew 4 ай бұрын

Only so much you can do with a bike that light. I really liked it for what it is, it would be just for me and maybe one of the kids. Lightly used it’ll be perfect for the 18 year old who works a few nights a week or as a second bike.

@DGMotorcycles 4 ай бұрын

Triumph smashing it, brilliant quality for exceptional price. The scrambler platform is growing on me 😄

@user-jr7dn5ei1n Ай бұрын

The 'Speed' "is absolutely blood'e marvelous."😊👍🏼🏰

@michaelwatts224 3 ай бұрын

Best triumpth 400 review I've seen. Looking to downsize from my 2013 CB1100; the S400 could be the bike 😊

@leeinwis 2 ай бұрын

Get the scrambler if you don't wanna look like a giant on a tiny bike.

@klaatuzogran4503 4 ай бұрын

I need a speed with the scrambler tank and seat..🤔 😜

@nomadUCL 10 күн бұрын

Maybe you can get the seat changed at the dealership 🤷🏻‍♂️

@snoopycharlie8718 4 ай бұрын

Far too much space between the wheel and rear seat on the Speed. Hope they will do an old school variant in future, like a bonnie or bobber and change the rear part of the chassis 😬

@andydove7563 Ай бұрын

I love the Speed . I just wish it was a bit higher . That's why I'm going for the Scrambler 👍

@richardsanders3567 3 ай бұрын

The big triumph badge on the tank is a big turn off for me the scrambler tank is nicer

@siwynjones 3 ай бұрын

Same. It really spoils a nice looking bike. You’d think they’d offer a colour option without it for those of us who don’t vote BNP. Maybe you can get them in Ireland…

@bikeman123 4 ай бұрын

Do they wheelie like my old SR500?

@jeffer1101 4 ай бұрын

I think a different sprocket would help with the tall gearing. We have better roads and higher speeds so shorter gearing would help keep the revs down at higher speeds.

@ramensospicy2992 19 күн бұрын

opposite. you'd want taller gearing for lower revs at highway speeds.

@jeffer1101 19 күн бұрын

@@ramensospicy2992 correct. I meant the other way around. The gear ratio is too high (needs shorter gearing).

@happyhap7207 3 ай бұрын

Its understandable to give Triumph credit, but remember Triumph went to Bajaj in India to use their expertise in making QUALITY INDIAN MANUFACTURED bikes but maintaining lower costs which BAJAJ is a legend of. Look at the Dominar 400 from BAJAJ which has been in production for several years. Indian manufacturing means that quality is 3 times better than chinese, and at par with european manufacturing. RE, KTM, BMW all manufacture in India for a reason. Now your iPhone 15 as well. For sure Triumph brought their expertise to create this fantastic bike, but the execution....

@Pisceanboi 4 ай бұрын

Very nice machine. I will be interested to see how they compare in the real world to the 2024 KTM Duke, which has on paper advantages with power, quick shifter options, and a full digital display.

@the_winged_helm 4 ай бұрын

On open roads, the KTM would be loads more fun. In crawling city traffic, you'd prefer the better low end grunt on the Triumph. The suspension is also more pliant on the Triumph. KTM certainly offers more equipment (I envy the adjustable suspension), but also charges a significant premium for it, at least here in India. If you like the KTM's engine but the styling is too "in your face", the new Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 is an enticing option.

@flesz_ 2 ай бұрын

I am looking to buy motorcycle after 20y break This or used SV650 for the same price?

@kishannr911 4 ай бұрын

I am riding 1 from past 6 months ... It has got lot of accessories from after market ...

@dickiemcgeezacks9458 4 ай бұрын

Great video, helium. Keep up the good work. 👍 I wonder if my dealer will allow test rides?

@svaralen 4 ай бұрын

What is the max weight load for the scrambler? Thanx ✌️

@walt7518 4 ай бұрын

176Kg

@TheForeverBean 8 күн бұрын

If only they didn’t have the yellow forks I’d buy one asap

@randycarter5410 3 ай бұрын

Definitely my next bike, street 400, and I have had many bikes already, just something about it 😊😊😎😎

@ThePhilosophicalOne 3 ай бұрын

Found the bike addict...

@kyakaruvlogs2784 4 ай бұрын

Triumph sold 2273 units of these last month in India

@pravinmurthy 4 ай бұрын

India sales of Triumph 400s:- July - 477 Aug - 3204 Sep - 4508 Oct - 3408 Nov - 2661 Dec - 2273 Total - 16,531

@williamrae9954 4 ай бұрын

At £2700 OTR in India...I see a long holiday... riding one home to Scotland?

@kyakaruvlogs2784 4 ай бұрын

@@williamrae9954 what a wonderful idea

@williamrae9954 4 ай бұрын

@@kyakaruvlogs2784 Race you? 😂

@kyakaruvlogs2784 4 ай бұрын

@@williamrae9954 I'll join you mid way

@Brettmotorcycles 4 ай бұрын

You’re the first reviewer that has preferred the speed ….Everyone else scrambler…also a scrambler is not supposed to be an adventure bike it’s for light off roading. Also six foot and above like me and the speed feels like a mini bike

@stephanrieken7232 Ай бұрын

Nice bikes 😊

@wiadroman Ай бұрын

New Speed 400 can be had now for 5k GBP. Must fight the temptation! Must fight the temptation!

@nimblybimbly4002 4 ай бұрын

Do people generally expect these to be as reliable as Kawasaki, Yamaha, Honda (Z400, MT03, CB300R)? Or are they considered to be a bit more of a gamble for reliability?

@nomading_in 4 ай бұрын

ultimately they are a Bajaj, with Triumph oversight for dual quality assurance. I've ridden the Bajaj Dominar, for example, which is their long standing 400cc sport tourer single, which is based on the KTM 390 engine, and it was...fine, a little on the unrefined side. Different budget that one (as in, they are dirt cheap) so I'd expect there's much more corner cutting, which should make a difference. So, if I was to make an uneducated guess, about as a reliable as others in its class, including the KTM 390...and that's not a snub...I'm not someone who believes they are inherently unreliable.

@jayc342009 4 ай бұрын

obviously not but triumps aren't unreliable, at least in my experience.

@GaryShellberg 4 ай бұрын

@@jayc342009 40,000 mi. on my Triumph Tiger 800 here in the states, bike has had zero problems and is the most satisfying bike I have ever owned in 55 years of riding. Guess I've become a Triumph fanboy.

@donaldhipple4921 4 ай бұрын

If reliability is important for you buy Japanese. If not buy the extended warranty.

@SurajSinghTomarArya 4 ай бұрын

@@nomading_in Different budget? Triumph Speed 400 was cheaper at launch than Bajaj Dominor. All 3 (KTM, Dominor, Triumph) uses the same engine with slight modifications.

@yahoodlums 4 ай бұрын

These are great looking bikes, but I would rather spend the same money on a 2nd hand Trident. 2021 model with under 5K miles would be same price as the Scrambler 400. Think it would take longer to outgrow it. Double the horsepower.

@spadaspares 3 ай бұрын

So its a Triumph that's compatible with the price of others, unlike the rest of the range!

@donatasmaselis 3 ай бұрын

Hello everyone, I would like to find out about the Triumph Speed 400 TR engine. Does anyone know if Triumph engineers were involved in developing the engine, or if it's purely the work of Bajaj? Thank you for any responses.

@ONEPICDUDE 2 ай бұрын

Yes, 4 engineers from triumph have worked with bajaj for five years. Bajaj has experience in 400 cc engine. It's very helpful for triumph to develop the engine. Bore and stroke are same with dominar. Othan than that all are different. To confirm look at the sproket placement. It's entirely new engine. And bajaj is the reason ktm is profitable now. Bajaj helped the ktm. Bajaj has 49.9% stake in ktm and Husqvarna. Bajaj dominor 400 has a very good engine. So no problem with refinement. Triumph new tr engine better and has triumph standard quality.

@ZT-wz8yy 4 ай бұрын

As a Royal Enfield 350 owner, the main issues with new Enfields are the service intervals and the complete lack of service plan. If you follow the letter of the manual, you'd be visiting the dealer twice(!) a year (irrelevant of milage), and quoted service cost is in the region of £450/year 😮 Also, the list price of the new bullet is only £300 below the new Speed 400. RE needs to come down on price as they won't sell.

@calvinhall4878 4 ай бұрын

Triumph....👏👏👏

@susanboucher2116 4 ай бұрын

So if you go on a Triumph jolly and slag the bikes of do you think you’ll ever get another trip?

@jimjoelliejack 4 ай бұрын

Stick some spoked wheels and 50/50 tyres on the scrambler, it will look even better

@wesleyjames. 29 күн бұрын

Exactly what I'd do as soon as I bought one, maybe the higher raised mudguard too

@davidhailstone1519 4 ай бұрын

If they make a 500 ill buy one.

@estern001 4 ай бұрын

I'm trying to wrap my head around each bike. I've come up with, the Speed is a small big bike and the Scrambler is a big small bike. Does that grok with anyone?

@alangordon3283 4 ай бұрын

No.

@estern001 4 ай бұрын

Thanks!@@alangordon3283

@Bounce625 4 ай бұрын

They’re both small. One is just a taller seat height

@duncancleverley6366 4 ай бұрын

I really wish they had put this engine into a 400 Bonneville.. with twin shocks, spoked wheels and a bench seat.. and some analogue clocks.. that would get my wallet out… not these though, but I’ll wait.

@alexpryce555 4 ай бұрын

They'd be mad not to make a bobber and Bonneville variant

@Cartsp70 4 ай бұрын

Any bike with a 19” front tyre is a no from me UNLESS you’re going off road only , I’ve had one it definitely doesn’t want to lean over at any time, the red one is nice tho looks lush 🎉

@davidbrayshaw3529 4 ай бұрын

You certainly have to give the bars a nudge to get them over, but once you're there, they track and hold a line well. And boy, do they hold rough roads well. But they're not sporty, that's for sure. Great on the roads where I live, but on smoother bitumen, not the first choice.

@skaraborgcraft 4 ай бұрын

I dont have any issues with a Honda with a 23in front wheel, on or off road. That is what handlebars are for.......

@Cartsp70 4 ай бұрын

@@skaraborgcraft great enjoy 👍🏾

@mahdavimail 4 ай бұрын

These need premium fuel in north America I don't think they can sell much in NA.

@daveperfetti2802 3 ай бұрын

Not sure anyone here is worried about the gas at what @ 60 mph

@anthonysilvestri4946 4 ай бұрын

These bikes need to have the front sprocket swapped out with an extra tooth...

@realfreedom8932 2 ай бұрын

They should have gone for 500cc twin cylinder

@flesz_ 2 ай бұрын

Would cost more

@peterbarker5564 4 ай бұрын

C’mon, it’s not an off road bike (scrambler) It’s just a design. The speed is great

@anthonybrown4874 4 ай бұрын

When they get reviewed longer term in the UK there may be s bit more downside here and there as when it's put against a use case as a commuting bike of a first A2 bike for weekends I am sure there be a little less love shown. Its got all the ingredients to be a big seller though if in servicebit proves to be reliable, economical and the finish holds up to UK weather conditions but its got my deposit for now just need s longer test ride in warmer conditions.

@ktkace 4 ай бұрын

meanwhile HONDUH: we have a 278CC masquurading as a 300R!!! HERP DERP

@marcoaguiar3226 4 ай бұрын

To me, for these 2 to be proper interesting propositions they needed a 270 crank twin cylinder with at least 47 hp. No more no less. Hate the single cylinder tractoresc sound track so will never buy it over a honda CL500 or even a Royal Enfield Continental GT 650.

@williamonthewestside 4 ай бұрын

I’ve review… Really 😊

@yellowperilbiker 4 ай бұрын

Presume a 500 or a 650 coming out. Be a thrash on A roads for sure.

@bluecheese4877 4 ай бұрын

Speed 400 looks great, but not for a 6’1” guy 😩 Don’t get me wrong, I understand that most bikes are sold in Asia and aimed at riders of 5’7” - 5’8”. It’s fair enough

@simonmerrin7967 4 ай бұрын

Well at 6'2 ,I tried both. Yes , the scramble is a bigger bike, but I loved the speed hands down 😊

@crazybiscut 3 ай бұрын

I know everyone excited here but honestly give it some time before buying it, because the KTM that uses the same engine supplier BAJAJ has a really bad track record in my country

@hardiksingh8998 4 ай бұрын

In India, it costs 2500 pounds.

@jamesonpace726 4 ай бұрын

I'm sticking with my "ancient" RE 350 Classic 'cuz afterall, I'm ancient....

@jamespegram8843 4 ай бұрын

I'm sure this British bike will be as popular as chicken korma....

@flesz_ 2 ай бұрын

Korma is sweet and disgusting

@user-bt5fu2vm7s 4 ай бұрын

Wiv,fink,free? With,think,three.

@britfrog 3 ай бұрын

40 years ago the Yamaha rd400 had 44hp and was lighter

@everettbranscom6536 3 ай бұрын

40 years ago the rd 400 didn't have to meet euro 5. Not a real comparison.

@EVil-ob8in 2 ай бұрын

If a selling point is good quality for under £5k, just buy a used bike for even better quality for the same money.

@ianhalliwell8604 4 ай бұрын

The new RE Himalayan has much better brakes, brembo, and much better suspension, showa, so its the RE for me everytime.

@adityan3208 4 ай бұрын

Well RE is coming with their scram 450 and maybe hunter 450 too... It'll be fun to see how they compare with the triumph

@everettbranscom6536 3 ай бұрын

The 400 Triumph also uses Showa big piston forks, at least upfront. As for the brakes, cheep Brembos aren't any better than other price point brakes.

@kubasaki1978 4 ай бұрын

You REALLY, REALLY need to work on NOT saying REALLY 100 times during a video. REALLY annoying.

@SurajSinghTomarArya 4 ай бұрын

Enfield isn't light because people doesn't want it to be light. They could use plastic parts like in this bike but its heaviness and long stroke nature is its appeal. Comparing this Triumph with and Enfield is idiotic comparison. Its like saying a honda civic is better than a Ford Bronco because it has two more doors. Both serve different markets.

@eggbod 4 ай бұрын

That's the biggest piece of shill I've heard in a while. I'm sure it's a nice bike though.

@rpa83 4 ай бұрын

Just hype like on anything new, hard to take it seriously

@johncarter1150 4 ай бұрын

Slinging the Indian moto bikes! LMAO

@mikbar4515 4 ай бұрын

I've tried to understand, but this english is out of my league ..

@hughphillips1427 4 ай бұрын

You keep harping on about Triumph have made this, created this etc… Triumph have not made this, Bajaj have made it and I would suggest Triumph have had minimal input on this bike. This is the reason it has come in at the price it has.

@Banditmanuk 4 ай бұрын

Is that just your opinion or can you offer any evidence?

@hughphillips1427 4 ай бұрын

@@Banditmanuk can you evidence I am incorrect?

@Banditmanuk 4 ай бұрын

As I suspected. Just an option based on no inside knowledge.

@hughphillips1427 4 ай бұрын

@@Banditmanuk It is a fact Triumph are not making this bike, it is made by Pajaj. Did Triumph design it 🤔