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Just last week someone had tuned one of the TV's in the gym to a Jai Alai game, which I never knew until that moment was an actual game. Naturally the first thing I thought of was this movie.

Ram also played Billy the Kid in Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure

Just bear in mind that it's philosophically the opposite of TRON.

Worth watching for the Daft Punk soundtrack alone.

Exactly, people who made fun of it just didn't get it. It floated that interesting line between literal sci-fi and utter fantasy. Anything the story was taking in a fantasy direction, the "sci-fi literalism enforcers" hated it. The real mistake was that the movie was marketed to the tech nerds, so they were expecting it to be "something that could actually happen", which of course it wasn't. They dissected it on that basis, which of course the story would crumble under that kind of analysis. Had the film been promoted as being more fantasy-minded, it probably would have been better received.

@@Cre80s I disliked it because it the acting and style reminded me of mediocre 70s TV shows. It really had nothing to do with a sentiment that "it couldn't happen". To put it another way, other than the special effects, it felt dated to me even in 1982.

Against All Odds, The Fabulous Baker Boys, Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, White Squall, Tucker, so many others.

You can't forget Captain John Sheridonin one of his biggest roles as well

I'd wholeheartedly recommend _Starman_ to anyone who enjoys '80s sci-fi. Even the TV series that it inspired.

Whenever I see Lloyd Bridges, I can't help but hear the line "I picked the wrong week to stop sniffin' glue."

Some still think that, and or that it’s a lower form of art compared to traditional animation.

@joeb918 because it isn't art

That reminds me of the situation with Forbidden Planet. They wouldn't acknowledge the electronic sounds as music.

@BossNerd the academy sure hates the future.

@Docsavage, how is it not? Using computers to film, light, dress a scene is just as much art as doing it with a real world tools. Art isn’t simply something you apply to canvas, or sculpt at of rock, art is something done from the imagination of a human and using the a computer to make it is no different. With your attitude humans would still be drawing on caves and never changing mediums and or tools to produce new forms of art, or its like saying using a a typewriter or a word processor isn’t true writing or art because it’s not done by hand with pen and paper.

The name CLU comes from the name of a programming language developed at MIT in the early 70's. Modern use of the term relates to command line users, what people did before graphic user environments.

Thanks, I’ll have to check it out!

Grab the dvd with all the special features on it. It’s the double disc one. I’ve got it

@@bunnytailsREACTS kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qciXe7Cjsba1onk.html Making of TRON. The tape drives and computers used to make those graphics still filled an entire room! 20 minutes of 'CGI' required gigabytes of information! The CGI in the movie was mostly hand drawn animation...

@@user-xj7hq1pp3x the Blu Ray also has the making-of documentary. I'd recommend either DVD or Blu Ray; the filmmakers' commentary track is almost as entertaining as the film itself.

I should look Tron up just to see what the game looks like :D

I’ve seen this movie 🍿 after it was made,several year’s ago.I think,I still have the soundtrack to the film,too.This was a big hit in;1982,I’ve heard!

Most recent he was the president on The Orville.

@@RetroRobotRadio I sense a pattern. Ole Bruce likes to be in charge. TRON, President Sheridan (in Babylon 5), and as you said, also President on The Orville. On a side note I sure wish they'd get their thumbs outta their butts and do another season of Orville.

I saw some of the Iron Man movies

@@bunnytailsREACTS Jeff Bridges was the Daddy Warbucks-looking Obadiah Stane in the first Iron Man.

Heavy Metal, Lord of the Rings, American Pop, Tygra fire and Ice… amazing films 🤘

I know him as the voice of Ra's al Ghul in Batman: The Animated Series, and as the Professor in the second Ninja Turtles movie.

“I SEE FOUR LIGHTS!”

Love David Warner, especially in Time Bandits.

@Temeraire, IIRC he did that role without knowing the full script, and was reading from cards if I recall… but you wouldn’t know it because his performance is out of this world awesome and fantastic, he really inhabited that character.

@Stogie, he also plays a great character in the movie Time After Time, I won’t reveal here because i think it would be awesome for Bunny to react to it and I don’t want to spoil the reveal.

TRON and WRATH OF KHAN for the first time in the same day? Damn that's bragging rights there.

@@Theomitetalk about a double feature that will show you the state of the CGI art in 1982.

Yeah she should. "Legacy" is gonna make her flip her lid.

Actual animation is very limited. Several of the scenes are done in front of still images used as backdrops. Other early examples of early CG are in The Last Starfighter and Young Sherlock Holmes.

@@timmooney7528 Young Sherlock Holmes featured the first animated character in a film. That was a astounding shot for it's time.

It's funny that both Peter Jurasik and Bruce Boxleitner are in this movie and never have a scene together.

Peter Jurasik used to play Sid the Snitch on Hill Street Blues, then Sid got a larger role on it's spinoff series, Beverly Hills Buntz I forgot that Jurasik worked with Bruce Boxleitner on both Tron and B5.

@@timmooney7528 David Warner hada guest appearance in an episode of Babylon 5 also.

Also the opening title sequence for the movie The Black Hole was computer generated. Disney did that before Tron.

I remember finally beating TRON, but I don't remember it getting harder, just looping back to the beginning!!?!!

I don't think Space Paranoids was ever a real world arcade game. There was an online version for a while to promote Tron Legacy, but I think it's gone now (there were some archived copies, but they were written in an old version of Unity and I couldn't get it back up and running).

@@gospyro I remember Light Cycles going from one on one to three on one. The cone shooter definitely seemed faster. But its been a long time and that might just been I just didn't have the right reflexes.

That's precisely why it didn't get the costume award. The retouching and rotoscoping meant what you saw on the screen was not what was produced for the films; the award is for the costume design people, not the graphics and FX people.

@@Serai3 But for the rotoscoping (which was produced on set, not in post) to work, the costumes had to be designed for and the shooting angles carefully considered. The retouch work was *removing* unwanted lights - that's why everyone has a gray skintone. Another culture's normal dress is not a costume.

That's because the majority of the graphics were not created on computers. They were hand-painted and used to create mattes and cutaways through which light was projected. The best FX are practical. :)

I've got an old version (1997) of CorelDraw, that has a plugin from a different software company, that can randomly generate two and 3D backgrounds that look remarkably similar to the Tron aesthetic. Maybe old tech isn't as useless as we may think!

@@BeachcomberNZ Is it called the "Tron" plugin?

"scuzzy"

Yep. A very decent game, usually on sale for a few bucks on Steam. Well worth it for TRON fans. Plus, the old arcade standup game that came out after the movie, was a lot of fun (and tough).

And yet... according to several interviews and the DVD commentary, the writer/director denied knowing that TRON was an actual program command (TRaceON), for monitoring program behavior, when choosing to name the film and the titular program that did just that. I can't accept such an unbelievable coincidence or understand why they would deny it.

Wasn't there also a version of the Jai Alai game in there as well? I remember playing that.

@@inhumanmusic1411 Possibly with the Atari 2600 game console version?

@@pauld6967 No. I remember it being in a arcade.

@@inhumanmusic1411 Could it be: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discs_of_Tron Gameplay edit The gameplay of Discs of Tron is based on several scenes in the Tron film, combining the jai alai-like combat between Flynn and Crom with the disc combat between Tron and Sark. The player controls Tron in a one-on-one battle with Sark, presented in a fixed three-dimensional view behind Tron. Using a control scheme similar to that of the original Tron arcade game, the player moves around with a joystick, throws discs using a trigger button, and defends with a thumb button. The player uses a rotary dial to move a targeting reticle around the arena walls, and in later levels the player can also pull up and push down on the knob to aim up and down. Each match takes place in a closed arena on top of platforms made of concentric disks, like in the jai alai sequence. Tron and Sark attempt to destroy each other by either directly hitting their opponent or causing him to fall off his platform. Tron and Sark can each throw up to three discs at a time. Assuming it is not destroyed, each disc automatically returns to the player (destroyed discs regenerate). Tron can defend himself by hitting Sark's discs with his own or by using a deflector, of which he has a limited supply. Sark can additionally attack Tron with high-speed missiles, chaser orbs, and "super chasers" (which consist of an orb and two orbiting disks), which cannot be deflected. In later levels, platforms begin to move up and down vertically, requiring the player to aim up and down as well. Tron and Sark can bounce discs off the ceiling (similar to the energy ball in the jai alai sequence) with the goal of hitting one of their opponent's platforms. If successful, the platform flashes briefly and then disappears, reducing the character's movement or possibly causing him to fall and die. The platform reappears after about ten seconds. For some levels, a continuously scrolling wall of blocks appears between Tron and Sark; these blocks must be destroyed to open gaps in the wall before either character can hit the other. The game has a total of twelve levels, with Sark becoming more aggressive throughout the game. Once the twelfth level is completed, levels repeat from six to twelve until the player runs out of lives.

I'm lucky enough to live near an arcade that has that cabinet

Late reply, but glad you liked this one!

Not just eye candy - that Daft Punk soundtrack was just perfect.

11. The Last Picture Show. The Fabulous Baker Boys is on my all-time-favorites list.

Cool!