I can't handle the absurdity of the activist girl impulsively trying to destroy the scientific research when that would not solve the pollution problem, then the first scientist *immediately stabbing her* when he finds her doing that, and then the rest of the scientists who come in wordlessly agreeing that continuing to stab her as a group is the natural thing to do there. It's just so preposterous and dull.

“Well it’s official: murder is now legal in the state of Alaska.”

HBO owes me money. And an apology. Wtf was that.

Most poorly utilized polar bear since Lost

A group of guys see their co worker killing a girl and then they all join in? WTF. The wristing on this show is unbelievable

Clark dies in 5 minutes from exposure but Danvers who is covered in freezing ice cold water is dry and still alive?

Mass murder is not just OK, but something to be celebrated when committed by vigilante native women custodial staff! Now it's easy to see why the writing of the show never really cared about 6 dead scientists. When Issa Lopez wrote it she already knew they were killers and deserving of retribution. But she neglected to consider that the audience wouldn't be clued onto their guilt until the finale, so some sort of care and considerable investigation of their murder is necessary to tell a good story. So many plot holes and conveniences it's not worth going through them all. Easter eggs just for the sake of pretending to connect Night Country to the True Detective series.

If time is a flat circle does it mean I’ll eventually get my 6 hours back?

Danvers and Navarro building a fire in the science station garage when the cars were right there with heat was baffling. We see them drive the Tsalal SUV after the storm.

How would the cleaning ladies know that all the scientists killed Annie? They might know that one did, but all of them? So infuriating.

WAIT, i just realized....in the flashback to murdering annie k....they don't show her filming the selfie video of the murder that they later watch.

when the fan theories are better than the actual ending

I'm glad I streamed this instead of watching it live. When he busted out the "time is a flat circle" line, I had to pause it and walk around for 5 minutes to process the stupidity. (I repeated the same process shortly after the Cleaning Lady Mafia showed up.)

At least the ending is consistent with the running theme of the show: 'Women...It's OK when we do it.'

-Who peels an orange like that? Oh, someone trying to work one last spiral into the show. -Ghosts are real, and they're PG13 horror cliches. Cool. -Blair is somewhere between 16 and 70 years old. -Peter's wife and Danvers' daughter stopped being completely terrible because...the season was over? What an arc!

There were so many elements that were so outrageous, you cant even fathom the stupidity- 1. They are in an insulated building during a blizzard, and somehow they are at danger of freezing within hours or minutes when the entire facility was heated before this moment, and there are rooms EVERYWHERE that remained closed. 2. They are freezing and shivering while they are indoors away from the wind, in appropriately warm winter clothes which they used to travel the unheated caves perfectly comfortably, and under tons of blankets. 3. Somehow this deadly cold that was in danger of freezing them to death while indoors and next to a fire, doesnt kill the underweight senior citizen lady that falls into ice cold water, soaks her clothes through, and remains that way for the 30+ minutes it would take her partner to get her back inside, back to the fire, stripped, and re-bundled. 4. They are teeth chatteringly freezing while indoors and next to a damn bonfire. Being in a extremely cold place doesnt magically make fire less hot. Being next to a fire would keep you perfectly comfortable. 5. They start a fire instead of sticking together and going into a car and turning the heat on. A thing which we know they can do, because they DROVE ONE TO THE CLEANING LADY CULPRITS IMMEDIATELY AFTER. 6. Danvers is locked in a plexiglass room, and instead of shooting the plexi, which we know is not bulletproof seeing as her tiny ass breaks it with a little metal rod. 7.Navarro is completely brained by a fire extinguisher, dropped 15 feet onto her face, and is still capable of recovering, overpowering, and beating unconscious her male assailant. 8. They never explain the burned corneas / retinas There are so many more, but this show left me yelling at the screen more than any other. The random revelation that the cleaning ladies did it made no sense, and the fact that these CLEANING LADIES somehow knew ALL the tsalal men killed Annie, AND were okay with an octuple homocide, AND had noone escape, fight back, question them, etc. is beyond ridiculous to the point where i was legitimately laughing hysterically during the whole scene.

The whole punch a hole in the ice which then magically is a larger opening into a perfectly setup walkway in caves, magic drops into exactly the right area, magically teleporting again to the station, why in a secure station would they need to have a secret trap door? Why did danvers have to use a pole to break the glass when she had a gun? Why did they torture Clark instantly? When he hit Navarro' with that fire extinguisher i thought..... Well she's dead from that... Nope, not even knocked out, and when we cut back she's already overpowered him and beating him senseless?? Bad shit....

This season was unforgivably bad. It had so much going for it on paper I will forever wonder what it could have been in the hands of a good writer. Ironically for a show written by a woman and with two female leads, the most competent and likeable character was Peter.

Ahhhhh of course it was the Inuit Cleaning Lady Mafia……😂

This is a clear case of hiring someone based gender/ideology instead of skill. I’m guessing the show-runner ticks a few other ESG/DEI boxes as well.

I dont think ive ever seen a show where every single character is so unlikeable. A show of constant pointless red herrings, plot going no where, all male characters are one dimensional emotional whimps, all female characters are cold hearted hyper ”masculin” sociopaths, and constant, and I mean constant cursing and blasphemy. Insuffereable.

And so, the battered dude that was hiding in the station and wandering the ice caves for no reason... took the time to put 'Twist and Shout' back on a loop? Damn... 😂

A literal scooby doo trap door Lmao that was the worst writing I’ve seen from a major production Pathetic.

Going into tonight I expected it to be terrible, but that was worse than I even thought possible.

The writers of Game of Thrones season 8, LOVED this show. They no longer hold the record for the worst writers on planet earth.

What an absolute dumpster fire of an ending. I wish I could've reinvested the 8 or so hours of my life I spent watching this pile of shit of a season in something more productive like watching paint dry.

Here’s what this show told me… Women are powerful, smart, and badass. Men are weak and evil except for the one young lad that is learning at the foot of the wise, older woman…and doing what he’s told. This entire show was a giant clickbait…”Spirals, Tuttles, and Rust’s dad, oh my!”

I never thought I'd see something worse than The Rings of Power, but Night Country is worse by several degrees of magnitude.

The most bonkers thing to me in this ep was when the two leading investigators of the Tsalal men's deaths almost killed the only witness(after beating him and torturing him) without even asking him about their fate. The main investigation of the entire tv show!

are we really supposed to believe these out of the way ice caves are right under the research station and no one realized this?

2 Questions: Did ChatGPT write the finale? How much did HBO pay other critics to say it was a “return to form”?

The biggest twist was that feminism was the killer…and the force driving the creative decisions of the show instead of logic and entertainment

Evil male scientists vs Hero cleaning ladies!

I must've binge watched the first season at least 5 times. I've not re-watched seasons 2 or 3 even once. I think season 4 goes in the never gonna watch again category.

Knew it was a wrap after the Ghost of Travis did that stupid dance before pointing to the bodies

Everyone can hate on seasons 2-3 all they want but both blew season 4 away. The whole premise of it was cheesy with the whole “Night Country” thing. Seems this is going to be a sad end to the show and will probably taint the whole True Detective franchise. We all just have to accept that season 1 was some of the best writing and acting of all time and can never be emulated.

This show has all the drama and nuance of a Steven Seagal movie.

True Detective : The Cleaning Crew Time is a flat sponge, it sucks up metaphors from better seasons and turns them into something smelly. The spiral represents dirty water going down the drain after a job well done. The tongue symbolizes taste, as in the bad taste it takes to like this season.

When the old cop (I don't even remember her name) was peeling an orange with a knife I knew she wasn't capable of solving a crime.

"we're in the night country now" 😂😂😂😂

Season 4 makes Season 2 look like CITIZEN KANE

Just finished it and wth was that dude...lol

Man, this show spent so much time spinning tire for 5 episodes that by the 6th you knew the ride wasn't going anywhere. The biggest burning question of the entire series is how the group of men came to be frozen in that state of horror. The writers MADE that the central story. Nope, the show runners couldn't even be bothered with it because they couldn't write anything effective as an answer. It's the equivalent of when you go to see a band play live and the singer keeps holding out the mic for the audience to sing the song for them. "Just use your imagination" the show Creator tells us in a recent interview about all of the loose ends.

Gotta love how not one of the men tried to fight back once they were all let out of the semi truck. They were told to take off their clothes in the freezing cold and not one of them had any survival instincts.

Gotta give you credits for this one. Absolutely shocked by how complacent and delusional some reviews are...

Geology teacher whips out the ice caves map…never goes, “Oh hey, the caves overlap the lab…”

Favorite line from the show is when the hunters are fighting in the hospital: "WHO ARE YOU CALLING A REDNECK!?"🤣

And what about the zombie-like stroke of Clark when the power goes off? And the "We are dead" written on the whiteboard? And Annie's video didn't even match the flashback of her death? aaargghh I feel dirty for having watched this all the way through.

This feels like it was essentially True Detective fan fiction, but written by someone who is not a fan.

Men this season sucked. 1 - There is no payoff if they barley investigated. 2 - The characters are way too unlikable 3 - Even outside the job, they're lifes isn't interesting 4 - The message is pretty much weak by the execution 5 - The links to the first season was just fan service 6 - I was bored in every single episode past the first one 7 - The scientists mystery sound so cool.. no payoff 8 - Way too super natural at the wrong places 9 - Weak writing

S4 is a pile of shit. Not a second worth watching.

It was insultingly bad. Six episodes for that?

Thanks for speaking truth on this. Every other review is just glowing (looking at you Rolling Stone), and I feel like I'm in a bizarro world reading this stuff. The major fan consensus has been this season was terrible, yet most critics don't want to seem to even acknowledge that.

"I see dead people Theyre everywhere!" I hated this so much I can not believe this is certified "fresh" on RT...from audience to the critics Get ready for more seasons of this type of crap everyone My brain hurts after watching this finale lol

In the animation about the rabbit "Zootopia" there was a better intrigue, the very fact that they entered a cave without equipment, maps, any experience, a local activist instead of recording and taking photos starts destroying the laboratory, they are in a base where there are several cars instead of getting into one and turn on the heating, they light a fire XD, the fact that several scientists from different countries died in mysterious circumstances and no embassy is demanding explanations about what happened to their citizens. If they were poisoned by one or two cleaning ladies and that somehow made them go crazy, but no the whole gang of clining ladies with the truck did it and no one in the entire group had any remorse, no one said anything to anyone, absurdity follows absurdity in this series and this glorification of the suicide of a person with mental problems at the end...

episode 1 - there's a cover up here, let's investigate this shit. episode 6 - let's cover up this shit and leave

because, as we all know, the only way to "soften a permafrost" is for a mining company to spit out a lot of pollution!

Is this how Jodie Foster wants to cap her career? She went from The Silence of the Lambs to The Violence of the Clams. When she said in Ep.1 "It's a shitbowl." Thst was our warning.

Ending is even dumber than i thought it would be

What you are referring to as "girl power" is not just some loose concept that writers threw into the mix but, if you look carefully, it is the cornerstone of writing for this whole season. I dare anyone to find one masculine male character in the whole story. Qavvik seems like a nice guy but he is sexually dominated by Navarro and in the end means little to her and contributes even less to the story. Young Prior is also a nice kid and a hardworking cop but his wife treats him as a piece of shit because he is trying to do his work. In fact Danvers and Navarro also treat him like shit as well. Hank Prior is a corrupted cop who of course gets in the end what he deserved. Not to mention of course all the scientists at the Tsalal station because they are the ultimate assholes and murderers, as it turns out in the end. Not a single woman scientists among them because, well, probably the patriarchy did not allow women to study biology, geology or biochemistry (interestingly those being typically scientific fields with higher ratio of women presence). Every other male character in the show is portrayed as either a brute, halfwit or morally questionable individual whenever that's a mine worker who sold camper to Clark, antiriot cop who hits Leah, desk guy at the Lighthouse who let Julia out or Captain Connelly who is interested more in bureaucracy than finding out the truth. So we have this ensemble of emasculated male characters who are stirring the pot in an otherwise well oiled, properly functioning and almost idyllic world of strong, independent women. And yes, Denvers and Navarro are not likable characters but we are being told this is due to their respective traumas and it's not the hate towards the world but rather a coping mechanism and that makes their characters even stronger because they power through those struggles. All the Inuit women are presented as pure and righteous even if they hate their husband for no reason (Kayla), beat the shit out of civilians for no reason while on police duty (Navarro) or participate in mob justice and kill several men. They are still saints and their actions are justified because they are merely trying to fix the hell of a world that men created for them. In all fairness, season 1 of True Detective has an endless list of morally ambiguous or straight up corrupted characters but it is simply a story about flawed men. They are not being pitched against an army of pure-hearted women with emphasis on how much better the world would be without those men.

I finally got around to finishing this show tonight. Afterwards, I sifted through the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and found your honest commentary. Yours was one of the rare few that actually gave warning about this grasshopper patty masquerading as Wagyu. I knew this show was headed off a cliff when, during the same episode, both its female protagonists refused to allow their booty calls to pull out during sex. This was “girl power” transmogrified into something sinister-and a metaphor for the entire season. Here I lay at journey's end, and I feel wholly violated.

I fully expect that on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB there will be something like 50 percent difference between the audience score and the critic score. In response to this, people who liked the show will say it's because alt-right types review-bombed the websites. That's not what's going on. What's going on is that professional critics have an increasingly homogeneous ideological makeup that leads to shows like this getting favorable reviews even when they're incredibly flawed if not downright terrible. I fully expect this guy to be accused of sexism and racism and whatever else because he's a white man giving a negative review to a show that centers women of color, but the fact of the matter is this season sucked.

How did Clark know to have a convulsion just before the power went out and the women came in? Why did he have a convulsion to begin with??

WTF was that 😂

Too many things without an explanation. 1- Rose seems to know very well how to cover up a dead body..why? How? 2- what happened to navarro in her life?..what aabout her mother? 3- what happened to thw guy with the rifle?..did he go on vacation? 4- Prior is a character that should have been developed more. He was interesting. I mean he just killed his father and cleaned up his blood. 5- scientist killed, navarro shot the criminal, prior killed his father..ok murder is accepted..no needs of detectives in this country. 5- random references to season 1 without any meaning. ( Producer clearly did not know anything about true detective) 6 - the video of anne k is different from the story told by Clarck. 7 - all women went to tsalal to kill the scientists with a huge truck..no one spotted anything weird that night?. 8 - Navarro and Denver made a fire at tsalal site in the last episode while the came back in town with a tsalal car. No heating system available?. 9- Denver's son died in an accident. what happened that day?. Finally, Her son appearance seems from Alaska. Just an impression?. 10 - Only women involved in the scientists massacre? Why? No explanation. Etc... Ok I stop here for now but I have other points to raise. This season was a tv show but has nothing to do with true detective..i mean..murder is accepted in Alaska..who needs police in there. 0:08

Are we out of the night country, now?

At least the show is done, that's somewhat a positive. I hope you feel better soon! It's really hard trying to understand the creative process behind a show like this. If I had to guess, Issa López wanted to make something more like Tigers Are Not Afraid again and had no real interest in True Detective.

A season to forget as soon as possible

It was garbage.

This was a horrible finale to a tepid series. The magic Native American and “ancestors give me strength” trope was extremely tiring. That plus the girl power, and that every white man in the show is abusive / dies. To quote Nic Pizzolatto - “ha ha, stupid”.

I can’t forgive that after the generator went out they decided to make a fire instead of just getting in the car to get warm and even after Danvers fell through the ice they still refused to get in the car to stay warm until the storm passed. Just freaking dumb. Also enough with the spirals…my god.

It's so frustrating, because it could have been such a great show. They had the setting, they had HBO, they had the cast.

I couldn't believe they hand-waved away the big mystery about how the scientists ultimately died as "ghosts. magic. maybe. you decide". Maybe it was a fucking slab avalanche. Maybe Otis was caught in a flash slab avalanche and just doesn't remember. And then "Closed" was the only closure we got on the whole mine thread. No more screen time for the cop boss or the mine boss. What a shit bowl.

Somewhere in HBO office....hey I have an idea of a story of vigilante lady cult... someone else shouting from bathroom "let's add some supernatural twist to it"... another one while making coffee"hey let's add science fiction twist to it". HBO CEO you only get 6 episodes to finish it.

The scene of the janitors kidnapping the scientists was one of the most bizarre things ever made

"You cant just substitute easter eggs or references for actual storytelling." - Erik Kane "Oh, if only I had been told." - Dave Filoni

Dude you are one of the few critics who is actually saying what most fans of prior seasons are saying. How any critic could say this was great defies all rationality but I guess we should be used to it if painfully mediocre things like The Last Jedi can get glowing praise in spite of intense fan backlash.

"When you play the House of Thrones you either Game, or you Dragons." *Stares directly into camera*

I was let down. The show built up its super natural element and it all of a sudden changes lanes into reverse the final episode. What's up with all the Caribou jumping off a cliff at the very start? Very random, I guess that's normal...What about the scientists lodged into ice? I guess nature did that.. It was like the show changed it's writers, they must have hired the ole G.O.T writers that botched the last few seasons

Also, apparently the cleaning ladies were waaaay better detectives than these two cranky old women.

It was awful. Thankfully each season is separate so they couldn’t ruin season 1. I couldn’t believe how woke it was, and I’m not talking about the female leads. I was excited for Jodie Foster (like how fantastic Kate Winslet was in Mare of East Town) even though I know she’s a bit woke herself. But the whole woke story line was just so predictable and somehow continued to get even MORE woke… First its 2 female leads, the main male character is a rookie and weak and feminine, and then the female officer can somehow take down a guy twice her size with ease. Then it goes to the predictable narrative of the environment and the natives land being taken away and destroyed, and better yet by a group of white male scientists. The victim is a female Indian, obviously killed by white men. And then the ones who avenge and kill the offenders are a whole bunch of female minority climate change activists who work as cleaners and all of a sudden love guns, with not a single man around. What ever happened to the Indian guy with the shotgun out of curiosity.. he was a suspect and then just disappeared off the face of the earth. Also, the tongue was never explained… Not to mention the white male officer was the bad evil guy. And finally, murder is completely fine when it’s done by ‘minority’ females!! Like what the fuck.. that’s not justice, how did they even know they were all involved in the killings and somehow they leave no evidence when they all trample through the scene, but a handprint on the trap door which they somehow miss in the initial examination of the crime scene. Just appalling.

They don't care about good stories. I'm cancelling max.

Theyre looking for clarke who was mysteriously missing from the science place for half the series and they never once thought to check the obvious hatch in the science place

at the very end... I have a question about that video confession (on Navarro"s cell phone) that they said Navarro got from Raymond Clark. (the leaked video) When could she have recorded it? In the video he looked cleaned up, very coherent & not crazy at all. In E6 from the first contact, Danvers & Navarro had with Clark...until he died... he looked crazy, filthy. Then he was bloodied & messed up when they were interrogating him. When/how? could he have been recorded confessing what the scientists/mine were doing?? I'm confused.

Gotta make the kid clean up those corpses immediately! You never know when the cops might show up in the remote Alaskan town.

Alright I'm gonna say it Hate me all you want This is the peak of.... .... Pretentious and poor storytelling

Wind River wasn't an investigator that got caught, it was acase of wrong place, wrong time for an innocent couple who had no real reason to suspect they're 9n danger I called it as a possible Fortitude ripoff at the end of ep. 1, which it is closer to than Wind River although this slop is meant to be miracle cure vs zombie virus. With some Season 1 easter eggs to try and pretend it has anything to do with the title. This clown show makes me think Issa watched Fortitude and season 1 back to back and just sh@t this out, built around every sad, sorry, repugnant female character she's had in her head since middle school. The farcical "girl power" nonsense is driven home not only by the native women being the killers, but by the fact that for "reasons", the one guy with a knife has to be joined by everyone else, except the one person who tried to stop it. Except he ends being the one that actually "ends" her, despite the fact that she's already fatally wounded 10 times over, so we can have "all men bad" BS. As for Annie K herself, she was a violent trespasser who destroyed what is not only potentially billions of dollars of property, for no rational reason, but it was also potentially world changing. How is she a victim? I liked Season 2. It was waay more convuluted and dense than season 1 and required a lot of concentration to follow without getting lost (I think Pizzolato was desperately trying to one up season 1 and he failed) , but I actually liked it, mainly because of how surprised I was by Vince Vaughn. Three was good, but again, not on the level of 1. That was lightning in a bottle across the board and everything since suffers by comparison. This is just embarrassing. Issa is not a competent writer. She hallucinates her characters are analagous to Rust & Marty, but they're not. They have flaws, boy do they have flaws, but no redeeming features. They're not intelligent, honourable or couragous. They're bumbling, deceitful and wlful. When Marty and Rust stumbled on the meth cooks and found their sex slaves, they needed to lie about why they were there and arrange the scene to justify probable cause and exigent circumstances, but they were heroic rescuers. Danvers and Navarro have rescued no-one, delivered no justice to anyone & are just angry, narcissistic, executioners who can't even cover their tracks competently. Or find a door.

Could’ve skipped episodes 2-5 and you’d miss nothing. There was zero detective work this whole season. The personal lives were so boring. Why does it take the LAST episode for Danvers to finally open up about her kid dying? It’s too late for me to care about her character when all she did was walk around and curse every other sentence and treat Prior like shit every 15 minutes. I don’t understand how this show got to air. So poorly written. If it weren’t for the Alaskan setting this show would have nothing going for it.

What was the deal with the snake fossil in the cave?

Wanted to add some more plot holes just because you're the only guy providing objective analysis - If the 2 main leads wanted to act like, you know, actual cops, they wouldn't have tortured the guy and basically made his testimony inadmissible in court - a bunch of scientists go murder happy? Seriously? Like nerd PhDs suddenly woke up one day and chose violence? - the same said murderous scientists don't even defend themselves or object when being forced to essentially go die in the cold - a group of women, easily 3-4 fully loaded trucks, drive to an ISOLATED research station and NOBODY NOTICES THEM MISSING? Nobody notices the strange convoy headed their way? - the women folded the clothes and boots without gloves, but no cop tried dusting the clothes for prints? Like basic detective work?! - the scientists just keep incriminating evidence that they committed Anna K's murder just hanging around in their super secret mancave?? - scientifically, permafrost STAYS FROZEN. How the fuck does millions-of-years-old ice get saturated with dangerous chemicals?? This show is an affront to common sense and basic logic. This was a power fantasy with the thinnest pretense of anything resembling detective work.

The fuck was the point of Navarro "disappearing" at the end, and in actuality is just living with Danvers? That whole scene with all the goodbye gifts, and then she just walks on screen at the end and is still living in the same town, just in a different house.

She wraps the body in a plastic bag but has to let the air out of his lungs. I'll let you guess what would be more buoyant. Air in a plastic sac or air from lungs.

“Time is a flat circle” was a dumb redundancy in season 1, too. If it’s not flat, it’s not a circle. Unless it’s a lumpy circle? Then, also, not a circle. Correct me if I’m wrong, mathematicians.

“We’re all in the Night Country now”

Perfect review. The crazy part is out of all these things you mentioned there’s ever more super unlikely things that shouldn’t have happened like it did. Like why in the fucking world would a bunch of scientist hear a commotion in the ice cave and see a guy murdering a girl then just join in and start helping murder her 😂 in what world does a scientist have the guts to to do that let alone all of them at the same time like cmon.

no wonder rust cohle is the way he is after living in alaska in that god awful town😂

The Cleaning Ladies tried hard to open the hatch to get Clark yet they did nothing to find him for two weeks to punish him too?

Rust's response to La Doux saying time is a flat circle was "shut the fuck up" which is pretty much how i felt when i heard Clark say that line. It was a hard watch, one scene characters state that they cant drive due to the blizzard/storm and in the next scene peter is driving around, dropping Danvers daughter off. I liked the cultural and atmosphere of rural Alaska but otherwise it was a convoluted sporadic mess of what should have been an incredibly well resourced show.

The research was about DNA in permafrost not about pollution. The pollution just helped get through the permafrost. I would assume most of the papers in that laboratory were about the actual thing they were researching and not about the super secret pollution they were keeping quiet about. So how did Annie just happen to find a paper about the pollution that made her go so crazy to destroy the laboratory.

I'll spare the obvious complains and plot holes and cheap mystery we all noticed, the thing I find the most HILARIOUS is in an attempt to write strong female lead characters, they just wrote 2 BROS and just put two women to play them, seemed so unreal on moments and at times it struck me as a parody SNL sketch in the way they behaved and talked and walked and presented themselves, but it was not, it was a serious attempt to make strong female leading characters by depriving them from all things feminine and I find that so ironic LOL