True Detective vs. Se7en - Creating Light Amongst The Dark

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Lessons from the Screenplay

Lessons from the Screenplay

7 жыл бұрын

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Despite the dark and gruesome subject matters of True Detective and Se7en, the character arcs of the main characters tell a story of profound optimism.
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@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
True Detective and Se7en are two of my all-time favorite things to watch. I've seen both many, many times, and I always love the last moments where we get to see the characters change, ever so slightly. Hope you enjoy the video, what movie or show I do in a future video?!
@JuliaSilva-og6pp
@JuliaSilva-og6pp 7 жыл бұрын
Do something by Charlie Kaufman.
@razeensamsodien5633
@razeensamsodien5633 7 жыл бұрын
Julia Silva YES!!! Mainly, Synecdoche, New York
@715creeks
@715creeks 7 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay I just rewatched True Detective last night and thought to myself that I would like to see David Fincher tackle Season 3! Crazy that you made this video after I had this thought last night. Haven't watched Season 2 yet
@iv0rysh0es39
@iv0rysh0es39 7 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay I'd love to see some analysis on Prisoners, La La Land, The Prestige, No Country for Old Men, Drive.
@BreakingBanter
@BreakingBanter 7 жыл бұрын
True Detective is the fucking bomb so thanks so much for this! Would dig a video on Westworld or Creed. Or just some blockbuster that stacks it's stakes really well. So many new blockbusters just have these massive, unearned finales and I'd dig seeing you break down how the ones that do it well pull it off.
@BreakingBanter
@BreakingBanter 7 жыл бұрын
Rust Cohle is one of the greatest characters ever written, hands down.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
plus with that performance...oh man.
@BreakingBanter
@BreakingBanter 7 жыл бұрын
That was the most tense Emmy's ceremony I've ever watched. Bryan Cranston V Matthew McConaughey... wow. I'm also still convinced that episode 5 of this show is one of the best written hours of anything I've ever seen. Rust's interrogation of the armed robbery guy is just perfection.
@iv0rysh0es39
@iv0rysh0es39 7 жыл бұрын
Breaking Banter Rust Cohle vs Heisenberg
@ronanbartlett8726
@ronanbartlett8726 7 жыл бұрын
If it had been anything other than Breaking Bad's final season I'm convinced McConaughey would have won. Like if there was going to be a season six it would have been a shoo-in. Which is lame because Cranston had already won for the role three times. But whatever!
@ColeyBama12
@ColeyBama12 7 жыл бұрын
Which book?
@CrypticcYT
@CrypticcYT 7 жыл бұрын
Okay, now do The Human Centipede vs. Happy Feet.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
lol. (No.)
@youngsmitty347
@youngsmitty347 7 жыл бұрын
Crypticc Oh, I get it! Because of the anti-religious meaning behind both films. Man, that would make for an interesting video.
@sewerface
@sewerface 7 жыл бұрын
There's nowhere else to go from here.
@Carcosahead
@Carcosahead 7 жыл бұрын
Star Wars vs Star Trek
@ikra7749
@ikra7749 7 жыл бұрын
Godzilla vs. Monsters versus Aliens
@jofall91
@jofall91 4 жыл бұрын
“Every time I think you hit the ceiling, you just keep raising the bar. You are like the Michael Jordan of being a son of a bitch.” God that line always kills me. 😂
@martasalja6696
@martasalja6696 6 жыл бұрын
"In order to feel like your child was spared the burden of existence, one has to believe that existence is a burden." Said so simply, yet so masterfully.
@jakovmysteriofan
@jakovmysteriofan 4 жыл бұрын
What's the most you ever lost on a coin toss?
@harrisp584
@harrisp584 4 жыл бұрын
"how could you say something so controversial, yet so brave"
@johnmonk9167
@johnmonk9167 4 жыл бұрын
Which also means murder would be a mercy.
@ahabduennschitz7670
@ahabduennschitz7670 3 жыл бұрын
"Aaww man, I shot Marvin in the Face"
@martasalja6696
@martasalja6696 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakovmysteriofan don't know, couldn't say
@filmosophy101
@filmosophy101 7 жыл бұрын
I choked up a little when Rust said the line "if you ask me the light's winning". It's easy to fall into a nihilistic view of the world like he did and his struggle to challenge that view was hard but satisfying to watch.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
I love that he says it, and I love the way he says it. I find it to be very powerful.
@smoss9813
@smoss9813 3 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore wrote something very similar
@tidypog3272
@tidypog3272 3 жыл бұрын
People always forget Marty. He's at least half of Cole. The man who can't say yes and the man who is unable to say no
@MichaelSveistrup
@MichaelSveistrup 7 жыл бұрын
Have no one seemed to notice that the video is 17 minutes 7 seconds? As stated in the video, True Detective takes place over 17 years and Se7en takes place over 7 days. Nice little Easter egg Michael ;)
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
:O totally intentional... (nice find, clever 😜)
@morty1504
@morty1504 5 жыл бұрын
It takes 17 minutes and 8 second for me :)
@bb2fiddler
@bb2fiddler 5 жыл бұрын
@@morty1504 minus 1 second for typewriter sounds in the beginning
@princessbulaclac9077
@princessbulaclac9077 4 жыл бұрын
@@bb2fiddler no that's just youtube. All of the videos has atleast 1 second added for some reason
@jon-umber
@jon-umber 5 жыл бұрын
True Detective season one was one of the best pieces of television I've ever seen. Great video, thanks!
@MichaelTPaulo
@MichaelTPaulo 4 жыл бұрын
Greatjon Umber You haven’t seen Mr Robot
@simon709
@simon709 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelTPaulo wow, comparing Mr. Robot to True Detective (S1) is like comparing Batman&Robin to the Dark Knight
@MichaelTPaulo
@MichaelTPaulo 3 жыл бұрын
@@simon709 really? how??
@simon709
@simon709 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelTPaulo Mr. Robot is shit?
@joeychill4364
@joeychill4364 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the music.
@majajajajajaty
@majajajajajaty 7 жыл бұрын
love seeing the difference between the original script and what eventually made it to screen
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there were a lot of interesting changes. I always find that fascinating too.
@pascalcosta2614
@pascalcosta2614 7 жыл бұрын
where do you find all the original screenplays? esp. drafts for this case
@SNOWSOS
@SNOWSOS 7 жыл бұрын
Now I want to re-watch both.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
And you should!
@Shezmen88
@Shezmen88 6 жыл бұрын
Look who's here!;)
@SNOWSOS
@SNOWSOS 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Shezmen AHHH YOU REMEMBER ME! :>
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin Жыл бұрын
"Given how long it's taken for me to reconcile my nature, I can't figure I'd forgo it on your account" is one of my favorite lines in anything. I think it's because it's something I may have thought at one point, given how people try to change who/how you are, even when who/how you are poses them no threat and their only real problem is their discomfort with you not being just like them.
@pumpkinqueen5450
@pumpkinqueen5450 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew McConaughey is scary talented. Just pure talent.
@Kishan_Baijnath
@Kishan_Baijnath 7 жыл бұрын
As long as there's Lessons from the Screenplay, the light will be winning.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
@TheHelghast1138
@TheHelghast1138 6 жыл бұрын
You win the comment section :) :) :)
@GloomGaiGar
@GloomGaiGar 6 жыл бұрын
light needs a nerf!
@BrorealeK
@BrorealeK 7 жыл бұрын
True Detective was a masterpiece. I'm so glad they didn't do a second season, I'm sure it would have been terrible.
@ManSeekingMeaning
@ManSeekingMeaning 7 жыл бұрын
Broreale hahaha. This comment is so win.
@f3nrir_
@f3nrir_ 7 жыл бұрын
I am glad that they thought season 2 would be a disaster to make, so they wouldnt even think of season 3
@user-kb7oe5wr7c
@user-kb7oe5wr7c 7 жыл бұрын
It wasn't terrible, it had it's merrits, the ending was actually very well done. It was like a regular mediocre show. But not terrible.
@shhs1227
@shhs1227 7 жыл бұрын
Любо Манолов it wasn't mediocre. it just had ridiculous expectations to live up to. doesn't help that HBO rushed pizzolatto as well
@greenakutabi
@greenakutabi 7 жыл бұрын
SH HS HBO admitted that they messed up by rushing him.
@professionalname5298
@professionalname5298 5 жыл бұрын
“Well given how long it’s taken to reconcile my nature Marty, I can’t figure I’d forgo it on your account” someone give Nic Pizzolato some writing awards please
@fhaf33z
@fhaf33z 3 жыл бұрын
You know he plagiarized a book right? Got away with it too.
@professionalname5298
@professionalname5298 3 жыл бұрын
@@fhaf33z I have never heard of that, do you have any sources?
@pedetefuerte
@pedetefuerte 3 жыл бұрын
@@fhaf33z what book?
@jegangunnithan4565
@jegangunnithan4565 3 жыл бұрын
@@pedetefuerte he didn't plagiarise the book but rust pessimistic values came from Thomas ligoti book
@dalano_films
@dalano_films 2 жыл бұрын
This line in the screenplay was different, looks like this was Matthew McConaughey's own twist on it
@NexSicarius
@NexSicarius 7 жыл бұрын
Damn, the final scene of True Detective bring me to silent tears, every time. The massive shift in Rust's perspective makes me feel like there is still some hope for this world.
@LikeStoriesofOld
@LikeStoriesofOld 7 жыл бұрын
_"To realize that all your life - you know, all your love, all your hate, all your memories, all your pain - it was all the same thing. It was all the same dream, a dream that you had inside a locked room, a dream about being a person. And like a lot of dreams, there's a monster at the end of it."_ - True Detective might just be my favorite tv show, awesome video once again Michael! I've been toying around with a video on True Detective myself and this was really inspiring, thanks!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Such a good quote. Such a good show. Thanks! If you end up doing one I'll be excited to see it!
@RalphLindsen
@RalphLindsen 7 жыл бұрын
Will you ever do an episode about season two of true detective? How it went wrong? Often you can learn even better lessons from failure, and the genius of s01 makes the downfall that more interesting.
@yashin99
@yashin99 7 жыл бұрын
Like Stories of Old Your videos are godly, so it would be a mind trip to watch your take on True Detective
@scottbain623
@scottbain623 6 жыл бұрын
I don't personally think it went wrong, it was just a very different beast than the first season.
@jimjam7928
@jimjam7928 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottbain623 I actually really liked it, but it could have been so much better. The story was absolutely packed with characters and plots with little breathing space, and the writing was clearly rushed through development.
@isaacninan5053
@isaacninan5053 7 жыл бұрын
Great, now I want to watch True Detective all over again.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
mmhmm.
@AL-SH
@AL-SH 4 жыл бұрын
You'll do this again... time is a flat circle.
@Tony-fq5bn
@Tony-fq5bn 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most rewatchable series/movies out there
@9000ck
@9000ck 4 жыл бұрын
I love True Detective, but when Cole said he could 'smell the psychosphere,' I burst out laughing.
@HzBurak-rl3wo
@HzBurak-rl3wo 4 жыл бұрын
İts a Real shit tho (synesthesia)
@Brownismyname
@Brownismyname 3 жыл бұрын
when I smell the psychosphere, someone has shit himself
@Mcgif21
@Mcgif21 3 жыл бұрын
The things you say when you are recovering from accidental meth addiction.
@chromesthesia
@chromesthesia 2 жыл бұрын
@@HzBurak-rl3wo I have that
@samlosco8441
@samlosco8441 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s expected for a lot of viewers to laugh tbh. Marty even mocks him for it not long after
@vicenteortegarubilar9418
@vicenteortegarubilar9418 6 жыл бұрын
youtube is a fine place and worth when I am watching this kind of videos... I agree with the second part.
@supastar25
@supastar25 4 жыл бұрын
This kind of content is absolute gold
@iranbek
@iranbek 7 жыл бұрын
JOHN DOE: "Detective.... Detective.... DETECTI-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-IVE!!!!!!!"
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Possibly my favorite moment.
@kdizzle901
@kdizzle901 6 жыл бұрын
I’d like to speak to my lawyer please
@babyboomer6272
@babyboomer6272 5 жыл бұрын
Snake? Snake!? SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!!
@mileyhannah1306
@mileyhannah1306 5 жыл бұрын
My favourite scene! The way his tone changes in a matter of seconds
@ailouros24
@ailouros24 4 жыл бұрын
not to be confused with lucifers "DETECTIVE!!!!!"
@supsap6545
@supsap6545 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, probably your very best yet. Thx for doing these.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Thank *you* for watching these ;)
@chandus2496
@chandus2496 7 жыл бұрын
I have seen a lot of your videos and I agree with that comment. This has been my personal favorite.
@aamirsohail9193
@aamirsohail9193 7 жыл бұрын
Aye. Really well examined and really well put together.
@Mindcreat0r
@Mindcreat0r 2 жыл бұрын
“You are like the Michael Jordan of being a son of a b*tch” is such a lightening in a bottle line. I imagine that after the writer wrote that down he smiled to himself for a while.
@docpepperclassic
@docpepperclassic 7 жыл бұрын
This video broke a screenplay I've been stuck on for literal months. I just watched it and it immediately highlighted what I need to do to fix the problem I've been having. Thank you so much.
@VikingFitness00
@VikingFitness00 4 жыл бұрын
did you sell that screenplay ?
@martinrojas412
@martinrojas412 3 ай бұрын
Did you?
@docpepperclassic
@docpepperclassic 3 ай бұрын
@@martinrojas412 No, it didn’t sell. Finished it, though, and I’m really proud of it.
@fatimaa1277
@fatimaa1277 2 ай бұрын
I wonder what is It about
@JustNicole6400
@JustNicole6400 7 жыл бұрын
You literally picked my favorite show and my favorite movie.... I'm beyond impressed
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Good choices ;)
@amberwest7846
@amberwest7846 3 жыл бұрын
SAME
@Beforethecredits
@Beforethecredits 7 жыл бұрын
I always love your work man. You're a huge inspiration for me. The final scene is Se7en is fantastic. I still want you to do the Before Trilogy.
@Onawhimexplorer
@Onawhimexplorer 7 жыл бұрын
What's in the box!!!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that's nice to hear! I still want to do the Before Trilogy-so many romantic stories to do...Her, Eternal Sunshine, Before Trilogy...
@Beforethecredits
@Beforethecredits 7 жыл бұрын
You know, I would love to see you do Her. I think it would be really different because Scarlett plays such a HUGE role yet she is never seen, just heard.
@amaliant9488
@amaliant9488 7 жыл бұрын
You should watch "Comet".It made me feel like "Before Midnight". Very well written and directed.It's one of my personal favourites and I cant understand it's IMDB rate.
@Beforethecredits
@Beforethecredits 7 жыл бұрын
That actually looks really interesting, Ill have to check it out. Thanks Emily.
@NITZANG1
@NITZANG1 6 жыл бұрын
I remember watching true detective and feeling like it's a visual "Nine inch nails - the downward spiral", much like se7en and other David Fincher's works.
@andrewforte3852
@andrewforte3852 4 жыл бұрын
We need a David Fincher Batman ASAP!
@Tony-fq5bn
@Tony-fq5bn 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewforte3852 Kinda feel like this new Batman movie coming out might be like that
@andrewforte3852
@andrewforte3852 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tony-fq5bn The Batman trailers do look like a mixture of Seven and Zodiac.
@lootpack7744
@lootpack7744 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tony-fq5bn Signed, sealed, and delivered.
@Tony-fq5bn
@Tony-fq5bn 2 жыл бұрын
@@lootpack7744 Just saw it, ya def thought of a few diff movies while watching it, but I thought this movie compared to Seven the same way Joker compared to Taxi Driver. You couldn't tell me Paul Dano wasn't trying to channel K Spacey at points
@yskim2636
@yskim2636 4 жыл бұрын
"Only in the darkness, can you see the stars." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
@1wackyjackie
@1wackyjackie 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that.
@jaimelann4679
@jaimelann4679 7 жыл бұрын
i would love if you did an in-depth analysis of Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men. one of the most complex, frightening characters i've ever seen
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
No Country would be a lot of fun to do.
@matthew1882
@matthew1882 5 жыл бұрын
Anton Chigur getting sent to hunt down The Yellow King /Tuttle cult. Now that sounds like a True Detective season 4.
@amanshivhare5340
@amanshivhare5340 4 жыл бұрын
Anton chigurh is not a complex character he is as simple it could be
@MyEverythingBurrito
@MyEverythingBurrito 3 жыл бұрын
@@amanshivhare5340 he's more like a force of nature than a character
@HandleGF
@HandleGF 3 жыл бұрын
An inferior Terminator... a crude Shadow character of the type to which Americans seem devoted.
@jimjam7928
@jimjam7928 4 жыл бұрын
Seven is one of my favourite movies. The characters are so strongly realised, and I think Morgan Freeman was born to play Detective Somerset.
@ErinJeanette
@ErinJeanette 9 ай бұрын
He absolutely was
@kylecoffman4738
@kylecoffman4738 6 жыл бұрын
I still maintain that the difference between S1 and S2 TD are the caliber of the actors. Imagine if Harrelson has uttered the line about 'blue balls in the heart'... he would have made it true to his character, and though it might have seemed off-kilter and zany, it still would have rang true in the scene. Now imagine if Vince Vaughn had said the line about 'being the micheal jordan of being a sunuvabitch', it would have sounded hollow, forced, and amateurish. Or imagine if Rachel Mcadams had been talking about 'smelling a phsycosphere'. Pizzolato's writing is unique and imaginative, but it takes a nuanced and brilliant actor to bring those words to the screen with any truth. Lightning in a bottle with MM and WH. Not to mention Fukanaga's impeccable directing.
@myfilms999
@myfilms999 5 жыл бұрын
You are 100000% right
@fhaf33z
@fhaf33z 3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget his writing was plagiarized. He ran out of writing material after season 1.
@Tony-fq5bn
@Tony-fq5bn 2 жыл бұрын
I think Fukanaga's absence is what kills the show rather than the actors........like, Vince Vaughn is not THAT bad lol the way he played his character was odd to say the least, and whose idea was it for Colin Ferell's character to look like that? Also, they used music like the first season, which made you feel like their might be some weird stuff going on, but the story was never that deep in S2, so its like, "why are you using this music?"
@soheiladam7510
@soheiladam7510 Жыл бұрын
I don't think so, yeah the cast wasn't superb but it wasn't bad either, the script was rushed and the story wasn't refined and it showed. expecting a second season like the first is absurd. it's impossible.
@stanverlaan1147
@stanverlaan1147 7 жыл бұрын
Wow. I haven't watched the video yet, but Se7en and True Detective are two of my favourite pieces of cinema. Thank you already.
@stanverlaan1147
@stanverlaan1147 7 жыл бұрын
incredible! I love it, thank you!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Me too! "Pieces of cinema" is a great way to refer to them both. I should have used that...
@ent_march7712
@ent_march7712 7 жыл бұрын
gained so much knowledge about movies and stories from your videos, never stop :)
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome :)
@mycommentpwnz
@mycommentpwnz 5 жыл бұрын
The analysis in this video.... is VERY well done. Often times, by merely watching a movie/show, the artistic motivation and true essence only hits the viewer on a nearly subconscious level. You FEEL it, but to encapsulate it into words can be difficult. This video illuminates how complex, meaningful, and thought provoking a good story can be. Props to the maker.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 6 жыл бұрын
I think part of what makes Rustin Cohl such a compelling character is that his personal 'wound', is communicated in such a way as to make the viewer believe in his world-view. Even if they may have never thought that way beforehand. He's got a very interesting 'cult leader' aspect about him, while still being a solitary character - almost as if he recognizes this aspect about himself and does everything he can to repel others, and not fulfill this potential.
@MAgnew898
@MAgnew898 7 жыл бұрын
After asking Wisecrack on every video for a breakdown of True Detective, I'm glad you did one instead!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
:P They do do a good job of breaking things down.
@xfilion
@xfilion 7 жыл бұрын
The dialogue in True Detective was mesmerising, Rusty's in particular. It's what was missed so much in the sequel.
@marioguedes4606
@marioguedes4606 7 жыл бұрын
"In order to feel like your child was spared the burden of existence, one *has* to believe that existence is a burden." It never ceases to amaze me how art can so accurately yet subtly capture the essence of the human condition. Thanks for breaking that down!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, thanks for watching!
@jessemilstead810
@jessemilstead810 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite parts of se7en is a certain part that makes it such a dark movie that leads up to the end and that’s the fact that every time the characters are outside it’s raining and raining hard, expect for the climax of the movie
@Soniti1324
@Soniti1324 7 жыл бұрын
True Detective Season 1 remains some of the best television ever made. (It's a shame they never made another season /sarcasm) The last line of the season was a perfect ending. Rust no longer believes that the world is dead, rotted, and all but waiting for oblivion. He gains the understanding that while the light may not be able to banish all the darkness, right now, today, it can still brighten creation even just a little more, and those individual battles are not fought in vain. They point to a culmination in which all that is wrong will be put right. Truly a beautiful ending to a horrifying story.
@Peanutjoepap24
@Peanutjoepap24 7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff about two of my favorite dark as hell crime thrillers. Also I love that we've just gotten to a place that saying the words "True Detective" just automatically refers to season one and just forgets that other thing.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Yup! Sry season 2 :P
@Peanutjoepap24
@Peanutjoepap24 7 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay I don't hate season 2 as much as some people but it doesn't hold a candle to 1. The characters and writing weren't as interesting, it was thematically hollow, and lacked that unique flavor that season 1 found in backwoods Louisiana and it's vague mysticism.
@negativezero3107
@negativezero3107 Жыл бұрын
I do not see many comments on this but the addition of Carcosa and The King in Yellow was brilliant, which inspired even Lovecraft, really nice touch and made it infinitely more creepy.
@needlessToo
@needlessToo 6 жыл бұрын
Se7en has been my favorite movie of all time for the last 20 years and True Detective made it up there as well. This video expertly explained why I love them.
@AkilesJose
@AkilesJose 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not a writter nor film student, but this KZfaq channel has gone straight up to my favorites.
@SayMy_User_Name
@SayMy_User_Name 5 жыл бұрын
“Nah, it’s a little too late in the game to get started on something like that I reckon, life’s barely long enough to get good at one thing”
@siddsen95
@siddsen95 7 жыл бұрын
This video means a hell of a lot to me. Expertly crafted cinematography and writing on par with any Camus or J.P. Sartre classic, these are two pieces of cinematic artistic achievements which explores the meaning of our lives through a decisively dark lens. And comes out with the oldest lesson of mankind : Hope. Michael, your efforts just reminded someone of the reasons to go on. You gift of a person. Thank You
@BadassRandomness
@BadassRandomness 7 жыл бұрын
My goal is to make a movie so good, that Lessons from the Screenplay makes a analysis of it. That is my dream
@SokaMagic
@SokaMagic 7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! It is evident that you put lot of hard work into your videos. It is very inspiring for me, as a guy who is very passionate about movies.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Soka, I appreciate that!
@SokaMagic
@SokaMagic 7 жыл бұрын
:D
@conterooski
@conterooski 7 жыл бұрын
FUCK. YES. I've never clicked on anything faster.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
:D
@generalmortars9490
@generalmortars9490 4 жыл бұрын
That last dialogue? "Once, there was only dark." It's straight out of Alan Moore's Top Ten comic.
@mammontustado9680
@mammontustado9680 Ай бұрын
I've watched this video essay probably 7 times now, and every time your final line "To make sure the light keeps winning" puts a tear in my eye. It resonates with me so much. Thank you. -A long-time LFTS fan
@eminems99
@eminems99 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do Westworld next ........??? love your videos
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to...after this video I'm going to take a break from tackling multi-episode, hour-long dramas for awhile....but will probably come back to it later!
@eminems99
@eminems99 7 жыл бұрын
Sure thing , good luck
@realrecognisereviews
@realrecognisereviews 7 жыл бұрын
Oh dam I was just going to recommend Fargo or Mr Robot after seeing this lol. Well still looking forward to more content !
@intheairex
@intheairex 7 жыл бұрын
Aaron Nichols Actually, isn't Mr. Robot's third season soon? Wow this year went by fast.
@zaklot101
@zaklot101 7 жыл бұрын
I would say that Crime and Punishment (i know i know Its a novel and not a screenplay) is somewhat similar to these movies. With the only difference being that the main character in CandP is both the protagonist and the villain.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I've never read it, but I probably should.
@joaoluizsn
@joaoluizsn 6 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay omg, yes! And definitely play Silent Hill 2 after that. If you don’t have the time or will, just watch RagnarRox video on it
@borysvengerov3398
@borysvengerov3398 3 жыл бұрын
Dostoevsky definitely has that pessimistic and fatalistic vibe, nicely spotted.
@HoneyBunRoad
@HoneyBunRoad 4 жыл бұрын
I just re-watched True Detective last week and I'm ready to go again. It's a masterpiece!
@biffman6
@biffman6 5 жыл бұрын
what's in the baaaaax
@Scroolewse
@Scroolewse 3 жыл бұрын
God that line fucking kills me. Brad Pitt needs to do more good movies.
@Scroolewse
@Scroolewse 3 жыл бұрын
God that line fucking kills me. Brad Pitt needs to do more good movies.
@jeffanderson9938
@jeffanderson9938 7 жыл бұрын
17 minutes? A new record for longest video on this channel.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Ugh, I know...first cut was 21 minutes! I think I love these two things too much, so just kept writing and writing. Trimming it down was hard.
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 7 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay Think you'll release a follow up sometime?
@dandai8
@dandai8 7 жыл бұрын
Release a 21-minute Director's Cut haha ;)
@nighttray1489
@nighttray1489 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I've always wanted you to do something with the first season of True Detective.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent, me too!
@noahbamberg8838
@noahbamberg8838 2 жыл бұрын
You the real mvp for putting Korn as background music
@SamuraiGuevara
@SamuraiGuevara 7 жыл бұрын
This was so good man. Thanks for the great content! Really proud to be on of your patreons
@DomzoD
@DomzoD 7 жыл бұрын
Personally, I prefer you to Nerdwriter, mainly because I love movies, but also I feel Nerdwriter tries too hard to sound "smart" or "intellectual" as a substitute for real explanation (or maybe I'm just dumb), but you guys both make great videos; I just think yours are much better.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind words. I think we both have our own styles that work for the kinds of videos we make. It's certainly good company to be in.
@Peanutjoepap24
@Peanutjoepap24 7 жыл бұрын
Domzo D. Domzo D. Nerdwriter can do some great stuff but I also find him more than a little pretentious. It seems to me that for him something is either a masterpiece from on high or compete dismissible garbage with no in between. I don't much care for that mentality.
@robert3333
@robert3333 7 жыл бұрын
If you don't already know them I'd recommend Every Frame a Painting and Now You See It. Not focused on screenplays but more on the art of movies in general.
@Peanutjoepap24
@Peanutjoepap24 7 жыл бұрын
Mr0strich Seconded. Love those guys.
@conterooski
@conterooski 7 жыл бұрын
Channel Criswell too. Really well-thought out and erudite and his accent is dope.
@ScarlettAlexandraS
@ScarlettAlexandraS 7 жыл бұрын
True Detective season 1 was an amazing show!!!! Couldn't get enough! Another awesome video! Thanks Michael!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scarlett!
@vincenttavani6380
@vincenttavani6380 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man, you're doing a great job digging into the real substance of the stories that films tell. Watching your essays makes me want to grow as a person as well as a storyteller.
@adamj6645
@adamj6645 7 жыл бұрын
I just watched all your videos back to back. Cant wait for the next one.
@annoyingkid48
@annoyingkid48 4 жыл бұрын
Watching your videos, the way you incorporate the stuff about how to structure characters and character flaws makes it so much easier for me to write as an aspiring author. After doing countless short stories, I’m finally getting around to the gritty actual-work-things with my baby of a novel, and having rules to work off of makes it infinitely easier to get my ideas down on paper.
@maxguillen8135
@maxguillen8135 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found this video. 2 of my favorite stories in one video. Well done.
@disorderedfm6502
@disorderedfm6502 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos just keep getting better. Thanks for your work.
@alousnamer
@alousnamer 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful editing and incredible work. Thank you for this.
@blacksheep_77
@blacksheep_77 4 жыл бұрын
Recently found your channel and I must say that I am not just learning massive amounts about story and character and the writers who are walking on the edge of greatness, but I am learning about myself and the stories that have been bouncing around in my soul for decades. This particular episode is fascinating to me...this reality of light and darkness and how the darkness works on the soul to lead it to pessimism, passivity or even despair and ultimately causes the human being to cease being purposeful as a vessel of light. SeVen was a film of my younger life, I saw it in the theatre and it was so far beyond my mind at the time. Now...I'm sitting here marveling at it again and True Detective, not for the violence or the gruesome nature of the content, but rather because both are somehow willing to acknowledge that the human purpose is truly to be a light in the midst of darkness. You, sir, challenge me to not just be a passive, entertained, observer but instead to be a sort of sub-plot to the story itself: one who has a character arc that also plays out during the story structure and does not leave unchanged, but challenged, if not altered by the conclusions the story poses. ...I will perhaps take a lot of heat from the YT community for this but I have to say it...I have been rather manic about a passage in the Bible...Genesis 1:2. And the earth was without form (purpose) and it was void (without any life), and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the waters, and God said, "Let there be light", and there was light. That last scene in True Detective...Light and Darkness...I have a lot to ponder. Thank you, thank you, thank you. You have a new subscriber.
@tidepride86
@tidepride86 6 жыл бұрын
True Detective season 1: Best show to have graced the small screen.
@shubhambillus8008
@shubhambillus8008 7 жыл бұрын
Strangely one of the most influential and inspirational videos that I have ever watched. Great work! Keep it coming!
@marcoselmo3417
@marcoselmo3417 7 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the BEST videos of the channel so far! Great job!
@evanryan6582
@evanryan6582 7 жыл бұрын
I love the longer video. I don't care if it takes longer to make and will never be critical about that, the more in depth look at it that provides more details is definitely appreciated.
@gastonperazzo4836
@gastonperazzo4836 5 жыл бұрын
As a fan of Cinema in general, and a particular fan of True Detective S01, watching your video made me feel really stupid. More that half of the things your mention in your analysis I didn't see them nor I linked them, and after watching this I kind of felt that I was too obvious to miss. That is, in mi opinion, what makes this and all of your videos so great... the fact that you can show us a deepest and thorough exam of something that we might've seen plenty of times. Keep it up. Nothing like getting baffled with new sights of old thinks we love.
@alexpolicastro2804
@alexpolicastro2804 7 жыл бұрын
One of your best yet! Keep it up.
@traverkoehler225
@traverkoehler225 7 жыл бұрын
This is your best one yet. Thank you! I especially loved the observation about thematic connections between the killers and detectives.
@jonathanmulondo9206
@jonathanmulondo9206 7 жыл бұрын
This channel along with Nerdwriter have become my favorite 🎥 based KZfaq channels
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@lilmayoslilmanager7125
@lilmayoslilmanager7125 7 жыл бұрын
try out channel criswell, every frame a painting and now you see it.... i would rank them all above nerdwriter and about equal with LFTS
@isaacninan5053
@isaacninan5053 7 жыл бұрын
Amen to that, nobody else quite does it like them
@pascalcosta2614
@pascalcosta2614 7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Mulondo LFTS>>>>>>>Nerdwriter
@smartwater598
@smartwater598 7 жыл бұрын
LIL MAYO's LIL MANAGER criswell is too pretentious he tries way too hard to find criticism and cringe accent
@THEARCHITECT801
@THEARCHITECT801 5 жыл бұрын
Brother, I've already watched this and (recently) finished true detective season 3, as well as season one, this is even more impactful, than before. Love it! I believe you'd do a great job at breaking down True Detective season 3 for certain. Of this I'm quite confident. If of course, you're even wanting to, haha. Regardless though, been subscribed for some time now, keep it up!
@therealteal620
@therealteal620 7 жыл бұрын
I really love this channel. You kill it constantly.
@sutematsu
@sutematsu 6 жыл бұрын
Congrats on a year! I love this channel. :)
@shishkinmax
@shishkinmax 7 жыл бұрын
Two of my favourites stories of all time. Thank you for your work sir
@MountMister
@MountMister 7 жыл бұрын
I get so excited when I see the notification for these videos and I'm so glad you chose these two powerhouse productions to talk about. These video's inspire me to create as much as I can so I could one day produce something even close to this level of storytelling
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome :)
@emily5mac1
@emily5mac1 6 жыл бұрын
I've recently started watching your videos, and I absolutely love them. David Fincher is my favourite director, and you always do such a great job of breaking down his films, and showing all the tiny details that make him so skilled at explaining the weirdness of humanity. Keep making videos!
@shahriarshadab2576
@shahriarshadab2576 5 жыл бұрын
i can't overstate enough how much your videos inspire me and get me writing.
@richardknox7354
@richardknox7354 7 жыл бұрын
cohle says 'what the fucks that Nietzsche' to ledoux because of the 'you'll do this again line' because of the eternal recurrence theme, but Nietzsche only meant it as a way to live your life well, live it as if you'll re do everything again and again and again not really as a metaphysical belief more as thought experiment By the way brilliant stuff, binge watched near all your vids, well done..........
@polloyopa
@polloyopa 6 жыл бұрын
This was amazing! I second the comment that said you should do the "Before..." trilogy.
@mirzaghalib8659
@mirzaghalib8659 Жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to this one.... it's among your best work....
@Madisonandwhite
@Madisonandwhite 5 жыл бұрын
That was a stunning exploration of narrative. I'm so glad I discovered your channel!
@iv0rysh0es39
@iv0rysh0es39 7 жыл бұрын
Along with the themes of darkness in humanity and existential crisis I highly recommend delving into Korean cinema! - Oldboy - I Saw the Devil - The Man From Nowhere
@vladimirbajic9439
@vladimirbajic9439 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. On a side note, why is the character arc actually called an arc? While metaphorical arc represents change or growth, the literal arc goes down-up-down. It would be more fitting for it to represent a failure to grow, or the inability to change, some sort of regression to the old values.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
🤔 Good question. I have some guesses but I don't know, I'll have to investigate this.
@wolffyx112
@wolffyx112 6 жыл бұрын
Since the change is often substantive and in the opposite direction, the geometric term arc is often used to describe the sweeping change.
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs 6 жыл бұрын
I figure the expression is in analogy to "story arc". Which makes more sense as a metaphor, since a plot typically goes low tension - high tension - low tension.
@Hahnsoulo
@Hahnsoulo 5 жыл бұрын
An arc only represents growth and then regression if you look at character growth as the vertical axis of the arc. Instead, character growth is the horizontal axis, and the trials and tribulations the character goes through are the vertical axis.
@ESteckly
@ESteckly 7 жыл бұрын
Always love seeing your new videos, awesome work
@canadianboy99
@canadianboy99 2 жыл бұрын
This is my fav video of yours. Love both of these and you've given a great explanation of the similar character arcs and the satisfying structure that is harder for the layperson to put into words. I also loved your social network vid - the Sorkin writing style breakdown was awesome. I'd like to see you break down Zodiac. While not as as focused of a story as Seven, it seems to be more rewatchable than most crime stories and tbh I'm not sure if that is an intended design choice or a side effect of a its flaws (slow/odd pacing, less iconic characters, lack of closure, etc.). Keep up the good work!
@ManSeekingMeaning
@ManSeekingMeaning 7 жыл бұрын
Saw one of my favorite channels post about two of my FAVORITE inspirations.. Fuck. Yes.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Fuck yes.
@rohan22051991
@rohan22051991 7 жыл бұрын
You, every frame a painting and nerdwriter are my favourite channels right now!!!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
In good company!
@beeaveragegaming3482
@beeaveragegaming3482 7 жыл бұрын
Rajat Swami right!!?? they are constantly who i go towards for inspiration for film :)
@rohan22051991
@rohan22051991 7 жыл бұрын
Courtney Heath I know!!! he could have done the analysis by taking just one; either true detective or seven and that could have been great too. But he decided to draw a parallel which is taking one more step forward.
@faisalalghamdi6688
@faisalalghamdi6688 7 жыл бұрын
I been waiting for you to talk about these film & the series and you combined in one video.Man you legend.
@amberdent651
@amberdent651 6 жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed with not only the quality behind these videos, but the obvious love of film you have that is immediately on display. As someone who enjoys exploring themes and lessons and journeys through not only film but other fictional media, it's great to see someone that finds a lot of the same things in cinema and wants a lot of the same things in cinema. I've already subscribed to this great channel and can't wait for more content.
@jackr_4382
@jackr_4382 3 жыл бұрын
Without Se7en this show and other movies would have never existed... that's why Se7en is probably one of the most important movies ever made...
@ErinJeanette
@ErinJeanette 9 ай бұрын
Agreed
@VijayThakurMD
@VijayThakurMD 5 ай бұрын
Plz Suggest more shows/movies with similar themes
@manasmohapatra7847
@manasmohapatra7847 7 жыл бұрын
As always, it's a delight to see your videos. I believe you will love the movie - Memories of Murder. It's more like Zodiac, but you can see vibes of the movie in Se7en and True Detective as well.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting. It does sound like it's up my alley!
@TheGirlInSneakers
@TheGirlInSneakers 6 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal. You're very good at this. I love how your videos are very analytical but at the same time easy to understand. Thank you and keep up the good works!
@ErinJeanette
@ErinJeanette 9 ай бұрын
Also beautiful work. I'm so thankful for people like you and channels like this really digging into the deep beauty and sadness of these haunting stories.
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