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The depressing thing about this case is that if Johnny Depp was an average guy who worked in a garage he wouldn't have a hope in hell of winning this case.

Why is Chris Brown thrown into the accused list? He literally smashed Rihanna's face in.

Chris Brown beat up Rihanna like don't compare to Ronaldo or Depp. Chris Brown should still be in prison and not making music

Nah the majority of woman I've seen including myself that have been abused are supporting johhny because we know what real abuse looks like. The belive all women thing angers me!. We shouldn't belive all anyone we should take any accusations seriously and review the evidence case by case. End of story.

The idea that someone can be accused of something with no evidence, nor a pathway back to acceptance in society is something I'm sure we all feel on some level. Truth is important, justice is vital, but knowingly false accusations are something which will hurt men and women alike; men will not defend women from harm if they are worried about accusations for doing so; women will not provide the balance to men that we need if they believe themselves to constantly be in danger from all men. We all need each other, and we need truth and honesty to form the basis of all our relationships. Thank you for this conversation, gents, truly important in today's world.

Personally, I believe Johnny Depp, however, I think the other comparisons are problematic. I believe Johnny Depp was abused by amber heard because there is a lot of evidence. I don’t have an opinion on McGregor as I don’t know evidence. Ronaldo there is compelling evidence against him. So think throwing all three cases together is wrong

Interesting chat, I have to say that the comparisons Brian bought up are kinda weird. Like theres a whole lot of evidence against Chris Brown and Ronaldo doing wrong against women. Not a criticism of the overall video. If anything the inclusion of these examples detract from the argument in support of Johnny Depp.

Should have left Chris Brown out of your argument fella, he’s not a great example of a ‘wronged man’.

Met Lawrence the other day at the Liverpool parade and had a good conversation with him. Really nice guy and I'm glad all his efforts are paying off now these guys deserve all the success they get, they work really hard for it 👍

If there's anything I've learnt through watching this trial religiously... it's that court is actually really fucking boring. And that's with a high profile case! The amount of objections, calls for speculation, no foundation, hear say etc. Exhausting. It's a no from me. Oh and Amber's lying for sure x

Great timing. Was missing this format recently!

Johnny's team got it moved to a state that allows trials to be televised, not all states allow it to be. 👍 As well guys, he has sued her for £50 million, but since she can't pay it, he won't win a cash payout, it's just so justice is served in Johnny's eyes

Something which didn’t sit right with me is that amber’s lawyer Ben Rottenborn (a good lawyer by the way, best on her side) said that Johnny depp calling amber a fat and a bitch etcetera when they are in arguments, was worse than when he was called ‘one eye’ when he was a child. The level of psychological effect is not the same at all, 11-13 year old having an abusive mother you would call him names because he had to wear an eye patch. It’s not a major thing but it just stuck with me.

Amber is so insane, and the stories kept getting more dramatic - with all the wailing and dry eyed gurning I was honestly waiting for her to wail "and then I died!! And I was dead for 8 days!" 🤦🏽‍♀️ Heaven preserve us from compulsive liars!

The most hysterical part of Amber during this whole scenario is just the level of bad acting she's doing that makes you question how she's an actor in the first place. She's been seen pretending to write notes then smirking at one of her lawyers while he just shakes his head in shame, when she was 'crying' on the stand she couldn't even manage real tears for something as terrifying as abuse? Let alone her closing speech just half crying saying she just wanted to be left alone but every time Depps laywers made an objection she immediately just snapped out of the act to turn to them and be like "You interrupting my performance here?!". Just scary what must be going on in her head.

She needs to go prison if you lie about someone sexually abusing you you should spend longer in prison then they would if they were guilty

Missed these 2 just having a chat like this. Great Podcast!!

Justice for Johnny

This woman is just something different. How she couldn’t even stick to her own story. Tripping up left, right and centre

Oh I'm going to look forward to this, I was really hoping you guys would do a video about this trial 😂

The sad thing is, is that despite public opinion and what ever the jury think johnny will never recover from this. He wont ever win an oscar or be a in a big hollywood movie. Once these companies black list someone they never take them off the black list. I'm just glad that he finally got to show the world his side of the story. He didnt do it by writting an article or do it by speaking on a lengthy podcast. He took her to court, made sure it was televised and just let us listen and watch amber for 7 weeks. He never really had to say much on stand but it seems like amber had a lot to say on stand and most the time she kept getting caught up in lie after lie. Thats all johnny wanted, he doesn't want $50m just the public to see the real amber and what he dealt with for 7 years.

the evidence is undeniable that Amber is pure evil and the fact she's even had the audacity to think she could go to court with her all lies and convince the public and Jonnys Lawyers especially Ben and Camille have just put her head in a spin so much she can't even remember the lies she's told.. and by the way Camile and Ben have been outstanding and Amber's lawyer never had a chance because they have no truth to work with

Well at least Dior Sauvage stuck by Johnny Depp after her article, props to them and hopefully he can get the result he deserves

Love your guys content together, funny or serious, you guys always get it spot on. Geordie, you speak so articulately and you both can really work through any subject with logic.. Unfortunately, something that alot of others can't when speaking on subjects such as this.. Keep it up boys, inspiring!!

The Kate Moss bit was such a own goal for Amber. Not only did she open the door for Moss to testify, Moss completely reversed the story and painted Johnny as a hero who literally carried her back to the room and got a doctor to come and see her.

Loving listening to this! What I would like to say is loads of people have had to deal with horrific trauma but don’t abuse people because of it. I don’t think trauma can be an excuse to cause other people trauma

This was a fantastic post guys. Some great insight. I've missed this type on content. 😎👍👍

I think its also relevant to say that Johnny is a calm, sensitive guy who like you said has some deamons so he is more prone to being abused by a type of person like her.

Since Loz mentioned his mum’s a councillor I can’t unsee him as Otis from Sex Education

Amber saying everyone is lying on stand in favor of Johny wasn't a great take either imo. Fun fact is that she always said the op ed wasn't about Johny, but then in her closing statements she literally said it wa about him. She's so stupid ngl, how can 1 person cry so many times without a single tear? Also the fact she couldn't remember /recall anything when she was asked about it, but then when it''s her turn to talk she could remember every detail in the world. That's what u call a script.. Johny prolly ain't an angel either, but that's what a toxic relation gets you. But the things she accuses him for are just outrageous. No matter if he wins or loses, mans got his voice back and Camille is bae!

finally!!!! Was dying for a video on this from you guys

Love the work from you two, just as I’m thinking I’d like another podcast one comes! Keep it up

The difference between the abuse for me; Amber is the perpetrator and Johnny is defending himself. He reacts to her mental torture and physical abuse which she’s admitted to on occasions and there’s recordings where she’s clearly down playing punching him, kicking a door at his head. Johnny Depp so far has said he pushed her away, and attacked furniture. It’s obvious she’s the one going after him and changing tact during conversation (trying out different stances and tugging on different emotions to see which works)

Great example as to why we can't simply "believe all women". We can not believe all men and we can't believe all women.

good to have you lads back been missed

will always say this. my favourite pods is just the two of you. Keep killing it lads

This is TOP Mckenna. This is what I fell in love way back when the channel was at 300k. Thoughtful, reflective think these pods really play to his strengths

44:00 Your point is exactly the same as Bill Burr's is.. He perfectly summerises why being a powerful man has huge affects on the person's psychie..

Close out was hilarious, last minute. Whole pod was very very good. Enjoyed, thank you

I was wondering when you guys would make a video on it. Good things are worth waiting for I guess.

This trial is so popular because it's a high profile example of a staggering injustice. All of us have experienced, to varying degrees, injustices; and we want Johnny to get justice so we can at least "hope" that we might get justice too. On the other hand if Johnny, who seems to be overwhelmingly the wronged party here, can't get justice, even with all his resources; what hope for we "little people"? In my opinion, that's a big part of why so many people are so riveted by this trial. Also, *actual* survivors of abuse have an extra reason to empathize with Johnny.

Oh thank god two legal experts have finally had their say!!!

You love to see it Was waiting for this one for a while

It shows how much Brian’s sense of humour is the same as Ricky gervais’ when he does the “there are plenty of good women comedians” thinks, “there is one” 😅😅

The point made and examples given at 7:00 are so grim. For example in Ronaldo's case, how can you address and be annoyed about a potential false accusation but not him probably raping someone and getting away with it, which is far more likely? And how can you say "what do they have to lose?". Everything. Women who speak out against powerful men get a ridiculous amount of abuse and 99% of times they are telling the truth. Honestly, such a damaging opinion to have and share on a platform this big. Women need to be encouraged to speak out and they usually don't. They are even less likely too against a man who is powerful. Even when they do, they rarely get justice. Educate yourself.

Amber Heard has done so much damage to women who are genuine victims. There were already eons of men who universally don't believe women and she just gave them a reason to keep thinking that. She claims she has ptsd ffs but exhibits none of the traits of a person who is afraid of her alleged abuser. The way she spoke to him on that recording wasn't a frightened victim. I can't imagine how anyone can support Heard.

Loved they vid guys. Got my brain working and body relaxing 😅

Thanks for the pod

Team Johnny for sure! But Chris Brown definitely abused Rihanna. He admitted it.

And I thought some of my exes were psycho! 😁

I have been waiting for this one 🔥🔥

1:10:02 - Here's something really awesome I've learned how to do as an adult: I can hear a joke that isn't funny to me; I can hear a joke that offends me, and I silently say to myself, _"I'm going to let that slide - because it's not intended as an exclusionary, or belittling, 'eff you' to anyone,"_ and then I forget about it when the bit is over! 🤘🏻 Life is great when you approach it with maturity & understanding!

I have been so invested in this case, but I have no faith in the jury to make the right verdict

So happy she got caught out. Hope johnny is OK now🙏❤👍✌👊

I’m unable to finish watching you right now, ( I will when I’m not babysitting) , but you were discussing STAND UP COMEDIANS, and you didn’t mention #1 SEBASTIAN MANISCALCO!

Haven’t spent any time watching the trial, looking forward to you guys chatting about it. Oh

Amber heard is abusing johny dept the most guilty dirtiest thing I’ve ever seen horrible human she is.

I’ve been in a mentally and physically abusive relationship with a narcissistic man in the past and I 100% see these traits in Amber! I think anyone that has experienced this kind of relationship will also. The kind of women I’ve seen that are on “team” Amber are themselves also narcissistic, men haters that want her to win because they think that’s all men are good for money. Before the “pick me” comments come from bitter negative women, I’ve dated women only for the past 4 years I love women and to be perfectly honest I don’t particularly like men half the time they can be predictable pigs but I stand for what’s right, period. The evidence shows Jonny is innocent. The energy shows Amber is guilty. Energy doesn’t lie.

GREAT JOB, ENJOYED THE STREAM

I love how blunt you are in this podcast! Honestly

The fact its even a debate when Depp is fortunate enough to have such resources and finances alongside such blatant and damning evidence and still can get absolutely fuck all makes me think an standard bloke with the same stuff would get nothing

you were talking about determinism Laurance... but to that extent you can't blame anybody of anything. you are what you are and you will react how you will react (good or bad). but "society" has decided that you have personal responsibility and so your actions are your own - whether you can control them or not

Good show guys very interesting discussion love hearing ur guys opinions ur both very interesting and fun to hear

41:32 Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself

You know what would be really fricking amazing, if you invited an expert on the show some time, like I feel like a psychoanalyst or someone who really understands this sort of thing would have made the Podcast better. Still enjoyed it a lot though!

I can absolutely tell ya anyone who's actually been through what Amber claims ain't supporting her. There's this weird kinda vibe that survivors give off that only other survivors can feel. I know it sounds mental or fantasy but it's defo a thing. It oozes out of JD and I just wanna sit near him and have him feel it, feel validated by it, whereas she offends my senses, my intellect, my emotional intelligence and the survivor in me. She makes my spidey senses go on threat alert.

Okay this is a great take True Geordie. Love it

Laurence acc cracks me up man. Great video thank you troops

The most convincing testimony for me was Whitney Heards old boss saying that Whitney told her something completely different to what she’s saying on the stand

Johnny should win but the jury may not see it that way

More likely the photos at the end party were of ones bum on the photocopier. Thankyou for your insightful ,informative and spot on ( esspecially )last 15 min to 30 mins the end of podcast. Thankyou for your huge contribution of ones quest.

The podcast I’ve been waiting for xx

I have to disagree with the “but someone made them this way so it’s not their fault narrative.” There comes a time where you’re an adult and you have to learn that actions have consequences. Saying “I grew up this way” or “I had a rough childhood” is no excuse. I can understand that it would make sense that you act that way because of it but that should never give you any sympathy or let alone a pass for you actions. If you can’t hold yourself accountable then you really need to rethink your own morals

I think its relatable to all men who have either been accused falsely or have been in violent relationships where both partners hurt each other but the male is always blamed even when we all know really that a lot of women (not all) instigate violence.

Great pod as per

I will be back to watch this in 15 minutes when I’m at the gym, perfect timing lads appreciate it🤝

It’s scary that the one with the history going back to her childhood of abuse and being combative/violent can lie on the stand take zero accountability and people still want to believe that the guy at 56 years old in every other relationship back to his 20’s has nothing but love from his other partners till this day!!, ok he did drugs but that doesn’t make you an abuser of women as he said on the stand the only person I’ve abused is myself with the drugs/drink because of the childhood he had, the people she had on like her sister saying we have never fought even tho there’s video of it and then the story about the stairs she told a totally different story to what AH said and her apparent best friend that hasn’t spoken to her in 3 years but she’s still her best friend it’s unbelievable that she thinks she looks good in this!!, ok he smashed a cabinet after his mum passed any man would of did the same but for her to record him and then laugh about it walking away then sending it to tmz, if he is what she says he is he would of beat her then for recording him and twice as bad for laughing about it!!, the lies she has spewed on the stand that have been proven false is crazy to me!! You can only take so much as the man no wonder he would just leave then she’d call him a coward for not having the fight and leaving like wtf 🤯🤯

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Brilliant show gents, long time fan from Australia

More like this lads👍🏻👍🏻

i always love watching brian and lawrence having fun with the brand deals

I’ve been reluctant to say it and never imagined I would… but Brian you’ve outgrown Loz

"Bad things happen to these people that cause them to become guilty" So should we now dismiss everyone's case because bad things happen in their life? If we don't have consequences for our actions, we become spoiled & worse than before.

Never a tear was shed

chris brown? bestie did u see rihannahs face

I tune in to hear Brian, not Laurence interrupt every 12 seconds. He's not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. I'm sick of his holier-than-thou woke b.s. Dude, you're not a co-host. If you think we want to hear you, start your own podcast.

An absolute shambles from start to finish this

Notification gang. Excited for this video. Cheers boys

The thing about this case that, no matter who you believe, so many people have made a case about abuse into their entertainment. People posting thirst traps to amber describing horrific abuse? Even if she is literally reading from a script, that's unforgivable. So many victims are going to be ignored because this has set a precedent that abuse victims aren't to be believed and that women will lie just to ruin a successful mans career when 99 percent of the time that's not the case, and so many guilty abusers walk free because of that mentality already.

Love this podcast. Cuts through politically correct nonsense and states the truth. Well done boys

I love your take on this, and I loved your take talking to James Arthur. I fully agree with your opinions True Geordie.

Love the libertines font nice Kate moss reference

She is a 6 at best

chris brown abused rihanna though? i don’t think that situation is comparable. she nearly died because of how bad the beating was.

You speak the truth so much true geordie your an inspiration

True geordie you are a legend mate

Roxanne Pallet

I’m in agreement with the Depp/Heard take but the examples of wrongly accused men are piss poor particularly McGregor and Chris Brown.there’s a LOT against them.also the attractiveness of the women are irrelevant.Brian pushing the men vs women arguments reeks of misogyny as usual.tone deaf.

Mid-level secretary!!! That made me laugh!!!!😁😁😁