Glad to hear your enjoying it, I really love seeing innovations like this that work so well!

So... what you're saying is that you like the Truma better than the Girrard tankless water heater? I'm getting ready to buy one, and this will help me greatly... Thank you for your response.

Thanks Guys! :) Yea that drone shot was a trick ;)

Thanks for your comment! I'm sure it will help others out. We're about to decalcify ours soon!

I'm a plumbing contractor and I second Carl's opinion.

W Carl Hepker Sir thank you for explaining that dilemma!! I heard about this and it kept me from trading out the Atwood 6 Gal’s. I have hair to my calf and thought this On Demand system would work without out running of hot water. Any thoughts? Not sure what to do. Thanks!!

Brenda, My six gallon water heater was adequate for me and my late wife. I would get up in the morning, take a shower, dry off, and dress in the bath room. By the time I came out, the hot water heater was ready for the next shower. My wife would go in, take her shower, and dry off while I was preparing breakfast and coffee. We never ran it out of hot water. She did not have long hair; therefore we did not take extensive showers like it would take to wash hair as long as yours. The main problem with most on demand hot water heaters is that you have to have the hot water valve wide open to keep it heating water. As soon as they detect a reduction in the hot water flow rate, they turn off the heater. Also, many have found that they get along OK if they are hooked up to campground water of at least fifty pounds of pressure. But, when they are running on the water tank and pump in the RV, it does not provide enough flow rate to turn on the heater. The Truma seems to have overcome these problems. I would say to buy the Truma and both of these problems will be solved. If you boondock, you will want to be watching how much you are draining your fresh water tank and how much you are filling your gray water tank with each shower, or at least each shampoo. The water being a different temperature when you turn it off and back on at the shower head is not caused by the water heater. That is caused by physics at the point of hot and cold water mixture. This is solved by the addition of check valves on both the hot and cold lines at the point of mixture. I hope this is helpful.

I Have heard of that issue, I have also heard the pressure drop and leaking valves are to prevent that from happening in RV's (which results in a cold blast)

Same. I found they showcased how their other products worked in detail with photos and videos. Not this water heater! Thank you Morton's! Found your "initial" video on their website and was looking for a follow up.

Wait, does it not heat water? What's wrong with calling it a hot water heater?

Specialopsdave what would be the point to heat water that’s already hot ?? If it were to heat water that’s already hot but even more it would be called superheating the water; just go to Home Depot and search. You won’t find any hot water heaters...

Glad you found this helpful! We are still loving ours :) We loved it so much we had it added to our current RV and are using it in the middle of nowhere yukon right now :)

It was nice to read your very complimentary comment/reply. I concur with everything you said 100%

Lol!

Awesome! Congrats on your new RV!

Hopefully, Truma stays with their current policy which is, WE "Truma" won't sell you anything unless "WE" install it.

That makes a lot of sense!

Depends what dealer you call, some years ago some would sell direct to you others wouldn't. I just started calling around. There is no more dangers than installing your own fridge, furnace or water heater. Just follow the safety guidelines of the units manuals.

I couldn't tell ya the brand, they have been in my family since the early 90's and still holding up great! They are leather but the headrests wore away so we covered them with a canvas.

I have the same question? Hopefully, we'll both get an answer.

I think this is a question you should ask the manufacturers.

The hot water is endless, If i remember It is sized to run two faucets at full flow at 120F so it shouldent be a problem. We frequently wash dishes and shower at the same time without problems. We still love this water heater!

Thanks, we will work on the solar cost vid soon!

gt5430 thanks & continue to enjoy the road

It's pretty common in the larger rigs. Ours is a DRV

That is the Mopeka tank system.

Seelevel makes a good unit for the lp tank level as is reasonable

Crowman what’s the cost of this & where did you install it at

Are you asking about the tempering valve if so the cost of it was less than $30.00 when I installed it 10 years ago. I installed it behind the water heater you have to cut and crimp the PEX lines to install it.

That's a nice explanation of why tank style heaters are over 140 degrees, but it doesn't address the fact that this gives instant hot water, and gives limitless amounts of said hot water. Anti-scalding is a minor bonus, it's not the main solution here. The main solution here is hot water on demand, and if you're hooked up to shore water, you can shower until your propane tank runs dry.

@@lorcro2000 RIGHT ON 1000%.

It's just opening the drain valve, see our review on road gear reviews.

Check out our go north series, we used one in Alaska without problem. I have heard other brands can't get up to temp with the cold water but we have never had a problem with the aquago.

@@MortonsontheMove thank you very much, I'll definitely consider getting this heater

LPG tank Check Here is our review kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z7Smm6uCuK7Df4E.html

Good question... Did you find out the answer?

Good question, did you find an answer?

@@azclaimjumper LOL... NO... Still waiting

We use it every day! In fact I just did the dishes. We love it. Yes we did a cleaning video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jrZ0edGqqqmsoqM.html

@@MortonsontheMove sorry, I thought you changed rigs? I'm likely behind on my research tho. I've still not watched all the Alaska trip in the camper, only got to your Beaufort Sea in Canada. Thanks! Great on-demand system!

I enquired if we could do a water loop system and heat the RV.... but they said it was not officially designed for that... Might be a future project tho!

Truma has a unit that is a furnace and a water heater, but aftermarket installs of these units are hard. Its not this unit though its called a Combi

@@RunFaster5150 You said the same thing I was going to say.

@@azclaimjumper We actually do have a stand alone heater now that's called the Vario Heat. But it's another one that's not available aftermarket at the moment but where trying to see if there's a way to create a kit to make it aftermarketable.

Unfortunately Truma does not sell to customers to install themselves, I would have done that if I could. Installed at Truma a unit like ours runs 1200-1300,

@@MortonsontheMove _"installed at Truma, a unit like ours runs 1200-1300."_ So that's $1200 - $1300 total for the heater and the installation?

@@Milesco do yourself a favor do not but these

@@rvman722 : Why not? (I assume you meant "buy".)

@@Milesco yeah sorry do not buy these....they have issues...plus the cost...you can easily save yourself tons of money retro fitting a small electric water heater....im a rv tech and have done then before and saved customers lots of money

Thats too bad. Given Truma requires their dealers install the thing, it should work perfectly or they should fix it.

Soooo, how much you pay for the Girard & how much time & money did you spend to install it + how much did you spend to get someone to fix what you did wrong?

We were around 8000 feet for two months this summer and did not notice any preformance loss. The unit has a fully variable boiler gas and air controls based on water temp so it probably compensates fine.

@@MortonsontheMove I, too, was wondering if altitude had any noticeable effect on the heater's performance.

That is correct an electric on demand unit would require 60A @ 240 to operate, propane is really the only way to go for an on demand RV unit.

We are not paid for this at all.

Every pound counts tho. That 12 gallons more fresh we can travel with without weighing any more!

For real... I have a 6 gal tank that I installed a Hott Rod in. Running LP and electric (yes, you can run both at the same time), I have non-stop continuous 125 degree water. The Hott Rod was $99. I'll take the 42 extra pound of water over spending $3,700 to get 105 degree water when you are turning it on and off. Really... 105 degree water to wash and rinse dishes... oh hell no!!!

That price is absurd. Game killer!

@@donf3877 I have never heard of a "Hott Rod" hot water tank... Please explain more. I need to change out the old hot water tank in a Vintage 1972 Travel Trailer... do you think this would fit? My old H.W.T. is under one of the seats... and it still has a holding tank. I really want to know more how it can do LP and Electric too. ;) How can I find out more about this Hott Rod? Thank you for your help.

@@ScottDLR "WoW'... I have to agree... (SAD)

It's not a tank. The Hott Rod is an electric heating element. If my memory serves me for a change, I think for my 6 gal heater it's 600 watt... and for a 12 gal it's 900 (with LP and the Hott Rod, all you need is a 6 gal). Got it on sale at (oh gawd no) Camping World for $99.00. Yeah, but I needed it bad and wasn't where I had internet service to order it on-line. But, looking at the price (if you have to replace your tank) I'm pretty sure it's still cheaper to get a standard LP heater and add the Hott Rod than it is to buy a combo 120/LP heater. And I don't think with the combo you can run both, it's an either/or deal. You simply remove the drain plug on the LP water heater and insert the heating element. Then press and stick the thermostat on the back of the tank and hook it up to 120. El-cheapo me... wired it so I could just plug it into the GFI outlet next to the sink instead of buying a switch for it. But I, like you, am doing a bit of remodeling, so I'm adding a warning light in the hallway for it as well as the LP being on. If I forgot, it would kill the batteries or waste LP. The directions were real good, and it states right in them that you can run your LP AND the Hott Rod at the same time without any danger at all. With the boost it gave me... no running out of hot water in the shower. I was hooked to water and sewer at the park so... nice and long showers. Now... I didn't run the water full blast, but I never ran out of hot and didn't have to take navy showers anymore (a 6 gal running LP only... you WILL run out of hot unless you get wet, turn the water off and wash, then turn the water back on to rinse). And, when I ran out of LP (oops) just the Hott Rod alone gave me hot water if I was careful about the flow. If you are going full solar, there are also 12-48 volt DC heating elements I saw on-line at several of the solar companies, but with over 2200 watts on the roof and 900 amp/hrs in batteries, I run my Hott Rod off the inverter if I'm boondocking. Oh, and if you're going solar, I found small 265 watt panels on-line. With a 34 foot tank of an RV, I have three lengthwise on each side in front of the bathroom skylight with room to walk between to clean them, and three more behind it. And, if you're thinking AC, forget the RV type. They haven't change the design since the early 60's. They draw a massive 14 amps :( I have a 12,000 BTU mini-split in the front and a 9,000 BTU in the bedroom. The front one draws a max of 6.7 Amps at full power, and almost always less and the rear one even less than that. Can run the rear all night off solar batteries. Hope this helps you out, and good luck with the remodel. Old RV's of any kind are much better built than the new crap. And, if you need more info... just reply again.

I meant spent....and these have issues as well

@@rvman722 I applaud Truma for sticking with there business plan which means "YOU buy from us ONLY when I also INSTALL it".

@@azclaimjumper thats. actually not a very good business plan at all. The fact that this unit is too expensive....then get charged to install it. In my opinion...not worth the price at all...not even close. You could even install a instahot system that is a 3rd of the price and get the same results. This truma system is not designed for the majority of rv'ers...a ton of people that live in there rv cant afford this or cant justify the cost. I understand that you have to be loyal to a company that is paying you for a good review of there product....thats your hustle i applaud that..but the population has a huge problem with cost and trouble with these

The only good thing this unit has that it fits in the old water heaters place. I installed much superior units for half the price but I had to mount it outside at the back of the RV.