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Trump assassination attempt: fallout for democracy

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Vlad Vexler

Vlad Vexler

Күн бұрын

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@christophertaylorwebb9429
@christophertaylorwebb9429 Ай бұрын
I really appreciate you’re coverage of this, as an American I don’t personally believe we can come out of this better, but it is good to see someone talk common sense and provide some clarity / insight into what’s happening
@gabywhite2446
@gabywhite2446 Ай бұрын
It’s a terrible thing….one innocent bystander dead…two critically injured…..Axion reporter is stating that one bullet hit Former President’s teleprompter and that the shattered glass cut his ear….if that is true, he, of course is amping up folks to rally that he was shot….everyone is forgetting about the gentleman that lost his life….and his family members that are fighting for their lives….every life matters (or none do)…
@itsallminor6133
@itsallminor6133 Ай бұрын
​@@gabywhite2446 everyone? Trump released a statement right away about the killed and wounded
@Broken_robot1986
@Broken_robot1986 Ай бұрын
I wish I agreed with Vlad that democracy in US can survive a second Trump term. It's all over now, we'll be just like Russia/China/Turkey/Israel/Iran/The Kingdom, strong man dictator and his crooneys. It was a good run we can be proud of to tell the tale of to the children who will never know freedom.
@beltigussin81
@beltigussin81 Ай бұрын
It's a powerful image for those who still don't understand who Trump is. They will see it as courage. It's not. It's opportunism.
@jorgbuhler4521
@jorgbuhler4521 Ай бұрын
Vlad, you are talking without script, right?
@MDCDiGiPiCs
@MDCDiGiPiCs Ай бұрын
universal condemnation is key indeed. Thanks Vlad.
@sockosophie3132
@sockosophie3132 Ай бұрын
Is it? The american justice is rigged to the point where a rich person or person that pretends to be rich will get "get out of jail"-cards for free. Condemnation would be apropriate if the US were a developped democracy, but they are neither and they don't even care
@mindofown
@mindofown Ай бұрын
Good points Vlad "the existential talk" puts people into survival mode which then puts us in a state of mind where aggression and violence can occur
@daikucoffee5316
@daikucoffee5316 Ай бұрын
Are you saying that we don’t have real enemies?
@mindofown
@mindofown Ай бұрын
@@daikucoffee5316 Its complex, sometimes we create a narrative that the other is the enemy and it can make out behaviour more aggressive towards them, at other times others create narratives about "us" that we are their enemy and they attack us, and we have to defend. Its a primitive survival instinct to be tribal but leads to aggression.
@daikucoffee5316
@daikucoffee5316 Ай бұрын
@@mindofown You are only right in the sense that our enemies are apes and that we are apes.
@Carutsu
@Carutsu Ай бұрын
But it is existential. Have you seen scotus? Have you seen what Trump himself has said?
@daikucoffee5316
@daikucoffee5316 Ай бұрын
@@mindofown Your argument boils down to „the smarter person compromises“ and I disagree with you thatchers are people you can compromise with.
@JuliettaRabens
@JuliettaRabens Ай бұрын
I appreciate your level headed analysis. As someone living in the U.S. it is easy to feel a bit panicked right now.
@HorstEwald
@HorstEwald Ай бұрын
"We're on a ship and we're going into open water. It will get bumpy, but that doesn't mean we're gonna sink." I look around the ship and it's looking bad. It's rusty and shaky and rickety. The motor is smoking already, there are leaks, the captain's drunk, the sailors are in disarray and there's a fight going on in the engine room. No, it's not certain we're gonna sink, but I can't help but think about it.
@jefferyshute6641
@jefferyshute6641 Ай бұрын
Thank you, Vlad. Political violence is completely unacceptable. A democracy is based on opposing sides of any issue being able to have a free discourse, with the goal of reaching an agreement, often with compromise. Freedom of speech, and freedom of the press, are essential elements of a healthy democracy. Political violence is the antithesis of a healthy democracy. We would do well to remember the old saying, that, "I may not agree with your opinion, but I will fight to the death for your right to express it."
@Marc_Gagne
@Marc_Gagne Ай бұрын
What you've just said is exactly what Pres. Biden stands for.
@larsrons7937
@larsrons7937 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your input, Jeff. This is very much what I wrote myself, so I 100% agree.
@larsrons7937
@larsrons7937 Ай бұрын
@@Marc_Gagne Meanwhile well-known rus-trolls (pose as "Democrats"?) applaud the ass. attempt. But RU want's Trump to win, and normally these trolls spread his narratives. So why? Why? - To paint Democrats as lovers of violence. To spread tension, aggression, chaos. To try to destroy US democracy. Beware if you see such violence loving hate-writing in comments. They're not Dems, they're rus-trolls paid by Kriminalin.
@user-ul9dv2iv9s
@user-ul9dv2iv9s Ай бұрын
Can you really describe the US as a fully functional democracy? Flawed is the best anyone can do.
@ilyeshmusic
@ilyeshmusic Ай бұрын
Remember trump comments when Pelosi was attacked?
@AlejandroAlex956
@AlejandroAlex956 Ай бұрын
Vlad i want to thank you again. I was overwhelmed by the "situation". You the only one the makes sense. It was sincerely comforting. 👍
@MikeBrown-dk7or
@MikeBrown-dk7or Ай бұрын
Disappointment and the writing on Melania's famous coat comes to mind
@sandrahealey6385
@sandrahealey6385 Ай бұрын
​@@MikeBrown-dk7or❤️
@herbertyoung540
@herbertyoung540 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your valuable insight and wisdom in this age of confusion and chaos ...
@itsallminor6133
@itsallminor6133 Ай бұрын
Where?
@robthejones
@robthejones Ай бұрын
This is a gift for Trump
@WangMingGe
@WangMingGe Ай бұрын
The leftist nutjobs justifying it don't realize, it's killed their cause (just as it killed an innocent bystander)....to someone in an ideological bubble, say, some weed-smoke-filled dorm, studying poli sci at UC Berkeley, who's never experienced the real world, ok, it might make sense, but, I HIGHLY doubt the ordinary American is ok with assassinating opposition candidates.
@QuestforQuestions
@QuestforQuestions Ай бұрын
Unfortunately!
@honved1
@honved1 Ай бұрын
It’s going to push the “Bidens too old” narrative off the front page
@F3udF1st
@F3udF1st Ай бұрын
Politically yes, but it must be horrible otherwise.
@danielwillens5876
@danielwillens5876 Ай бұрын
Not a gift, a STRATEGEM. No-one is talking about Project 2025 now. Trump teased that this rally would be "wild," Trump speak for violent. The whole thing reeks of a set-up.
@LarshHill
@LarshHill Ай бұрын
i will labor to change my feelings to bring them into line with what you have outlined here. thank you for always encouraging me to be better❤
@MikeBrown-dk7or
@MikeBrown-dk7or Ай бұрын
Disappointment and the writing on Melania's famous coat comes to mind
@platinumsun4632
@platinumsun4632 Ай бұрын
You are buck broken lmao
@lesliespeaker668
@lesliespeaker668 Ай бұрын
Vlad: But that does not mean that democracy is gonna collapse. Weimar Republic: hold my beer
@nanorider426
@nanorider426 Ай бұрын
That republic was shaky from the start, but that is very long time ago. Name one western democracy after WWII that has gone to pot and has staid there to this day.
@DerMannDerSeineMutterwar
@DerMannDerSeineMutterwar Ай бұрын
Well I'm sorry to break it to you but facism is a universal problem every country has to face.
@patrickquinlan3056
@patrickquinlan3056 Ай бұрын
I'll hold that beer. That is a false comparison. The USA is a far stronger democracy than the Weimar Republic.
@MrZlocktar
@MrZlocktar Ай бұрын
@@nanorider426 Name one western democracy? Switzerland doesn't count.
@MrYirley
@MrYirley Ай бұрын
​@@nanorider426do you consider balkans- eastern Europe western?
@chopperwitz
@chopperwitz Ай бұрын
Thank you Vlad, I turn to you for you honest intelligent perspective. I am afraid of how this event will be weaponized, Your advise is soild.
@awpetersen5909
@awpetersen5909 Ай бұрын
That will play into hands of the Trumpians.
@recurvearcher6542
@recurvearcher6542 Ай бұрын
Hi Vlad, thank you. Always a voice of reason, calmness, analysis, logical reasoning, and dissemination. As you rightly point out, democracy will withstand and continue, assuring words for all free societies. Great posts
@Gene-XL
@Gene-XL Ай бұрын
Thank you Vlad, for your measured and well thought out explanation. As an admittedly ardent despiser of Trump and the MAGA movement, your discourse has me examining the ways I’m viewing this situation. These are absolutely insane times we are living through. The sanity and humanity with which people such as yourself espouse, will help people such as myself to navigate their own inner and outer discourse.
@MrSginne
@MrSginne Ай бұрын
Thanks Vlad. Usually do repost your videos, with small digest in ukrainian. keep up the good work.
@colinbrazier8511
@colinbrazier8511 Ай бұрын
Thank you for that sage perspective Vlad.
@jklappenbach
@jklappenbach Ай бұрын
KZfaq censorship is a joke.
@colinjames2469
@colinjames2469 Ай бұрын
its no joke.
@mendez704
@mendez704 Ай бұрын
@@jklappenbach a bad, horrible joke
@mendez704
@mendez704 Ай бұрын
@@jklappenbach a bad horrible joke
@claesvanoldenphatt9972
@claesvanoldenphatt9972 Ай бұрын
What did they censor here?
@bebebaba3442
@bebebaba3442 Ай бұрын
Leftist censorship is not a joke, it’s a fact
@bron-sconcess.10
@bron-sconcess.10 Ай бұрын
You are the leveler! Thank God for strength, Biden's strength and commonsense! Thanks Vlad ❤!
@p382742937423y4
@p382742937423y4 Ай бұрын
Well said vlad. You are such a beacon of reason and peace.
@jessicarowley9631
@jessicarowley9631 Ай бұрын
Thank you for a beautifully reasoned and explained video
@timmyhexham9603
@timmyhexham9603 Ай бұрын
Yes! A measured synopsis of the events from the weekend. Thank you.
@rsimko
@rsimko Ай бұрын
almost a carbon copy of what happened in Slovakia just 2 months ago
@TheMarlinspike
@TheMarlinspike Ай бұрын
Fascist playbook 101
@aniadobosz6381
@aniadobosz6381 Ай бұрын
Down with this sort of thing!
@GiraffeCrab
@GiraffeCrab Ай бұрын
Didnt Trump make jokes about political vioelnce when that dude took a hammer to Paul Pilosi? What changed?
@kirill1376
@kirill1376 Ай бұрын
Paul Pilosi, I believe, is not going to be president
@WayneTheSeine
@WayneTheSeine Ай бұрын
I see the problem with the American two-party system is both parties have to differentiate themselves so much that there is no gray, there is no middle ground. It is the driving force behind polarization. The sad truth is it leaves a huge, if not a majority, of Americans alienated. Culturally it has driven a wedge between us as a society.
@itsallminor6133
@itsallminor6133 Ай бұрын
There is a independent section in the middle. Over the years the left has gone more left. The right is reactionary so react going more right.
@twincast2005
@twincast2005 Ай бұрын
​@@itsallminor6133 Republicans have been shifting the Overton window ever rightward since the Reagan administration. The resurgence of an actual left wing is far more recent (2008).
@WayneTheSeine
@WayneTheSeine Ай бұрын
@@itsallminor6133 Indeed. At 76 years of age, voting Republican all of my life, I left the party after Jan. 6 and registered as Independent. I have watched the right go stupid right and the left go clown world left.
@Godfrey544
@Godfrey544 Ай бұрын
No, it’s happening world wide even in countries with several parties like Brazil
@he1ar1
@he1ar1 Ай бұрын
​@@itsallminor6133 Bernie was an independent and he is to the left of the democratic party. If democratic voters in general going left; then why is that? Why and how are they moving the party rather than leave it and create their own. The democratic party is said to be lead by people who are opposed to going too left; in general Corbyn is condemned as being too left.
@Baslium
@Baslium Ай бұрын
We're so fucked.😢
@WayneTheSeine
@WayneTheSeine Ай бұрын
The photo of Trump raising his fist with blood running down his face, and the American flag in the background, is politically akin as the Iwo Jima photo is to victorious battle. It will be a powerful image, unfortunately.
@sortaspicey9278
@sortaspicey9278 Ай бұрын
It's just a coward pretending to be brave. Nothing really to get excited about
@itsallminor6133
@itsallminor6133 Ай бұрын
​@@sortaspicey9278i am going to suggest that just proved he's not a coward and believes in his cause. And that is how it will resonate with most normal people
@runrau9275
@runrau9275 Ай бұрын
I really have a hard time believing that this is just some random act. I have as you most likely have also watched many of the live feeds on the shooting and alot just does not cut it. Just one aspect is the video showing where the two unfortunate bystanders were in comparison to Trumps location. Maybe just a real bad shot? No blood before dissapearing behind the prop as in he may have just hit the prop on the way down after being tackled. Anyway just a thought among many.
@gregorkielland5651
@gregorkielland5651 Ай бұрын
Jepp this will be a tshirt.. Terrible
@WayneTheSeine
@WayneTheSeine Ай бұрын
@@runrau9275 I am not sure I follow you. I do think it was a lousy shot and from what I understand a SS sniper was in the process of neutralizing the threat so some shots were likely pulled off because of this. The shot that came by his ear was apparently the first and only missed by an inch or two. There is a photo where you can actually see the sonic trail of the bullet as it passed his head. Mathematically the odds of it being a random nutjob are far greater than some elaborate conspiracy. Unfortunately, the Secret Service really dropped the ball. I am not sure if that is a result of a lack of resources or what. But usually, the SS has all nearby vantage points manned and covered. I don't know exactly how the resources work for a President after he is out of office or for candidates for that matter. I would assume resources are less than for a serving President.
@MarkMark
@MarkMark Ай бұрын
“why oh why can’t politicians advocate for racial violence in peace” - someone on twitter.
@tma2001
@tma2001 Ай бұрын
Do you hear that sound my friend ? Listen ... that creaking sound is of the pillars of civilisation swaying in the winds of history.
@charlrichardengelbrecht5269
@charlrichardengelbrecht5269 Ай бұрын
Oh ever so profound
@nanorider426
@nanorider426 Ай бұрын
Thank you. We needed that right now to be reminded of what we are looking at.
@RunOfTheHind
@RunOfTheHind Ай бұрын
MTG and Don Jr basically blaming all Democrats for this suggests Vlad will be left wanting here.
@ericgrace9995
@ericgrace9995 Ай бұрын
Don't you see what you are doing here ? Are you so self unaware ? I'm not going down the what aboutism path, but there are two sides to the coin and you only see one .
@srccde
@srccde Ай бұрын
My question is: would you have made the same video (if technically possible) in the 1930s after attempts on Hitler's life?
@michaelkimber6203
@michaelkimber6203 Ай бұрын
Thank you Vlad. We need many more voices of reason like yours. 👌.
@williamgill_esq.6487
@williamgill_esq.6487 Ай бұрын
See my above post. Vlexler was guilty of stoking extremism against Trump and Trump voters with his constant wild rhetoric.
@ProuvaireJean
@ProuvaireJean Ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely. But it's difficult to consistently and unequivocally do the right thing when one side consistently takes the low road. Case in point: "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know."
@franjkav
@franjkav Ай бұрын
Paradox of tolerance
@debrutomeyer9117
@debrutomeyer9117 Ай бұрын
FDR say, "I agree with you; I want to do it; now make me do it” . In this to be is the secret of democracy. There must always be an opposition, but regardless of rhetoric etc, both (obviously) has the interest of the country at heart; by understanding what the function of a responsible opposition is. NOT THIS. Of course campaigning can become a bit bitchy, but at the end of the day both (or an out South African example, many) have the same interests at heart.
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 Ай бұрын
"Troubled" is a weird way to say we're doomed.
@HyperHorizon
@HyperHorizon Ай бұрын
This is a bazzar reply to a video talking about being LESS existential. Look, if your a doomer thats ok, but everyone should hate doomers and for good reason.
@ahartify
@ahartify Ай бұрын
Oh no! WE'RE DOOMED!
@HyperHorizon
@HyperHorizon Ай бұрын
What ever shall we do, were doomed! 😂
@ahartify
@ahartify Ай бұрын
@@jeffersonclippership2588 Please don't get all Sartre and Hamlet about this.
@OlNineToes
@OlNineToes Ай бұрын
Bizarre* you're*
@anonyshinki
@anonyshinki Ай бұрын
And here I was hoping I'd listen to the Q&A when I properly wake up in the morning 😢
@TheCalixkid
@TheCalixkid Ай бұрын
thank you for injecting hope
@lewdawgs69
@lewdawgs69 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your efforts in helping make all this crazy sh*t make a bit of sense!
@danielwaitzman2118
@danielwaitzman2118 Ай бұрын
Bravo, Vlad!
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Ай бұрын
Warmest wishes your way Dan! I hope we will get to have a chat one day.
@danielwaitzman2118
@danielwaitzman2118 Ай бұрын
@@VladVexler That, Vlad, is amongst my most heartfelt wishes. All best wishes for your health, and for better times ahead.
@eumefmeauh6193
@eumefmeauh6193 Ай бұрын
Thank you for rapid reflection video! Sad moment!!!
@Serai3
@Serai3 Ай бұрын
Everyone should get hold of a copy of the film "Bob Roberts", and watch it now.
@neblime2496
@neblime2496 Ай бұрын
Thanks for being with us vlad I can only assume with your health it's taxing to be on at short notice
@schofield4836
@schofield4836 Ай бұрын
Wish this video hadn’t cut off, Vlad. I was learning from you x
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 Ай бұрын
Especially a few days after the attack on Sotomayor.
@wicker1234
@wicker1234 Ай бұрын
💯👍
@AlejandroAlex956
@AlejandroAlex956 Ай бұрын
@@j.f.fisher5318 you mean the dude who was trying to steal a vehicle? Who happened to be near Sotomayor home? Your comparison flew over my head big time! Comparing the Sotomayor incident to Trump's assassination attempt is downright deplorable. Downright dangerous these days. Don't forget to keep it "💯"
@williamyoung9401
@williamyoung9401 Ай бұрын
Why am I just now hearing about this on the KZfaq comments section? GOD the media sucks at their job...
@ColonelFredPuntridge
@ColonelFredPuntridge Ай бұрын
@@AlejandroAlex956 The Sotomayor incident - even if it was only a car-theft near her home - actually happened. This "assassination event" was an obvious staged Manchurian-Candidate-style fake.
@lindakelley2676
@lindakelley2676 Ай бұрын
The polarization just exponentially increased.
@Conn30Mtenor
@Conn30Mtenor Ай бұрын
Polarization- bollocks. You're either on the side of democracy or not. The GOP has already declared its intent to end it.
@annebomba
@annebomba Ай бұрын
​@@Conn30Mtenor Lol, this comment is exactly what polarisation looks like
@Conn30Mtenor
@Conn30Mtenor Ай бұрын
@annebomba the Trump backers are saying essentially "if we don't get we want, then there will be violence". You don't think that there is polarisation?
@annebomba
@annebomba Ай бұрын
​@@Conn30Mtenor You think polarisation is something bad that people do, so you wanted to point out it isn't your side doing it. Here it was actually used to just describe the current state of the political landscape, apart from who's fault it is. In your efforts to point at "the other side" you exacerbated the very thing you were denying.
@EdwardStory
@EdwardStory Ай бұрын
Greatly appreciate your various commentaries. We need a one paragraph "abstract" or summary at the beginning. This one is almost an hour (53 minutes); I need to have a 3 minute (5 minute at most) summary at the beginning. If I'm interested in all the reasoning, I'll listen to all the rest. I DO want to hear (or read) what you have to say; just say it faster and shorter, PLEASE. Thank you Vlad.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Ай бұрын
This is the short summary for the Chat channel - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fsmIlc6Ss77PqJc.html But you don't need it if you heard the first 7 min here!
@KlausM.Kormendi
@KlausM.Kormendi Ай бұрын
Thank you once again for your sober analysis. By the way: the title slide of the video contains a spelling mistake (assasination with an extra o)
@alexiskiri9693
@alexiskiri9693 Ай бұрын
Despite all the medea pundits and talking heads yapping away, I think the American people are tired of Trump. They just want it over. They are tired of the chaos and the drama.
@j.k.d.126
@j.k.d.126 Ай бұрын
People may now think twice about sitting behind Trump at his Rallies.
@DJSockmonkeyMusic
@DJSockmonkeyMusic Ай бұрын
Thanks Vlad. Voices of reason seem fewer and further between, lately.
@timbridge3982
@timbridge3982 Ай бұрын
Dear Vlad. Thnks for this valuable video. Who is the political philosopher or theorist that you are using here? It would be helpful to know for my reasearch.
@Cdearle
@Cdearle Ай бұрын
@ Vlad You are a better man than I because my first thought, albeit in the mental fog of switching on my phone at 6:30 am, was ‘Damn’ and not in a good way. However it did set me thinking about a sort of historical parallel. You will be familiar with Senator Huey Long but for the benefit of others he was a Trump-like US populist politician in the 1930s, albeit a Democrat, who was assassinated when contemplating a challenge to the not-yet-sainted FDR in the 1936 election. One of the great what-ifs of US politics.
@RickyThomasCain
@RickyThomasCain Ай бұрын
vlad i understand your points, but your reading it as a european, the usa was built on a different foundation
@terryhaircastle5702
@terryhaircastle5702 Ай бұрын
Here's my theory. The kid was an abuse victim who snapped / possibly felt betrayed by the revelations all over twitter about Trump, which were everywhere just 24hrs or so before the shooting. If anything would be strong enough to cause an about-turn in someone's views on Trump, it'd likely be that kind of trauma. He lived close enough to act on impulse, grabbing his Dad's gun and heading there without much planning - hence the crazy ballsiness of the positioning he took up. More planning would probably have led to a more cautious plan being in place on his part - that he could get so close was more down to situational luck and poor protection on the security detail's part. I don't think it's coincidence that those revelations about Trump were all over social media only a day before the shooting.
@cameronk4758
@cameronk4758 Ай бұрын
Why doesn’t Europe push back against US isolationist rhetoric. If the U.S. puts European security at risk then why wouldn’t Europe put US citizens whose jobs rely on the 15-20% of US exports going to Europe at risk. It’d be like living in a small town where the one cop still expects to be able to do business at the one grocery store after saying he has no plan to stop anyone trying to rob the store
@joeyartk
@joeyartk Ай бұрын
Because Europe is part of the American Empire. They take their orders and do like they're told.
@celiacresswell6909
@celiacresswell6909 Ай бұрын
Well in the U.K., we wouldn’t want to endanger our one side extradition treaty
@pinky6758
@pinky6758 Ай бұрын
He had it coming. With all the horrible things he did and all the horrible things he promised to do... someone was bound to try something like that. He literally said that he wants to be a dictator and then went to the Supreme Court and argued that he needs carte blanche as President to break the law.
@1Kent
@1Kent Ай бұрын
Of course Trump is ok, anyone watch wrestling?
@Stogdad1
@Stogdad1 Ай бұрын
The saddest time in history to be an America. Democracy in today's USA is akin to be a Jew in 1933, Germany. Or at least it feels like it.
@gabrielapetunia1871
@gabrielapetunia1871 Ай бұрын
That makes no sense
@WangMingGe
@WangMingGe Ай бұрын
You are very delusional and probably socially isolated/living in a radicalized bubble if you think life in the US today is anything like a real totalitarian state. How privileged you are...
@theprinceofpie
@theprinceofpie Ай бұрын
@@gabrielapetunia1871 Lookup Project 2025 and it will make sense.
@OveranalyzingEverything
@OveranalyzingEverything Ай бұрын
I'm sorry what? People like you saying stuff like this is partly the reason this happened. When you call someone Hitler. Or compare them. This puts a literal target on them.and is basically an excuse to do terrible things to "save" democracy
@amaliajarosi2018
@amaliajarosi2018 Ай бұрын
It does make complete sense.​@@gabrielapetunia1871
@elkudos6262
@elkudos6262 Ай бұрын
2:12 And what if you don’t live in a democracy?
@pictureworksdenver
@pictureworksdenver Ай бұрын
My reflex is to agree with your contention that political violence is abhorrent to democracy and should be universally condemned without ifs or buts; But sometimes there are ifs, sometimes there are buts. What if democracy itself is imperiled? Clearly there are circumstances when restraints on political violence should be suspended to defend a greater good. The numerous attempts to assassinate Hitler come to mind, as had one of them only succeeded immense human suffering would have been averted. In the context of recent history can a legitimate argument be made that Trump does indeed pose a threat to democracy itself? Had the assassin been successful today would the dark future we seem to be hurtling towards be exchanged for something less malign or tragically more so?
@armingleiner5292
@armingleiner5292 Ай бұрын
You are the problem. The left is destroying democracy with their rhetoric and actions. The left is always violent.
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 Ай бұрын
"The numerous attempts to assassinate Hitler come to mind, as had one of them only succeeded immense human suffering would have been averted." Himmler still existed. The apparatus and rhetoric still existed. You have no way of meaningfully asserting that your statement is even remotely true.
@RosieBaseball
@RosieBaseball Ай бұрын
I don't see it as a troubled democracy. This is what happens in a country that allows you to easily get your hands on a gun plus mental health issues. It is not the same as an autocratic society where you try to take out your political opponent.
@franjkav
@franjkav Ай бұрын
Authoritarians sometimes get control by abusing a democratic system
@ahartify
@ahartify Ай бұрын
We'll just have to see how it plays out. Who was the assassin? He might even have been a disenchanted Republican or a disgruntled recent immigrant, or even someone without US citizenship. Maybe even a Russian agent?
@no-barknoonan1335
@no-barknoonan1335 Ай бұрын
I doubt it was the latter two. It's possible, just not likely. If you spend a lot of time with immigrants or recent immigrants, they don't typically vote nor pay attention to politics. They're single issue minded, which is job availability and immigration status, but they don't tend to vote if they somehow even become US citizens. They don't care, migrants always undervote, and by definition until they're citizens they cannot vote. I don't see them resorting to assassination, they just don't pay attention to US politics, they're usually more concerned about the politics of the motherland they left behind. It was likely a disgruntled wacko, could be some radical leftwinger, or a radical rightwinger upset with Trump. When Kennedy was assassinated, he was assassinated by someone to his left politically, even though Kennedy was pretty clearly a left winger. It could be a right winger in this case upset with Trump, it wouldn't surprise me at all. And of course it could easily be some radical left winger, they would have an obvious motive. It could be some mentally ill person like the guy who tried to take out Reagan, or like one of the Manson girls who tried to take out Gerald Ford. It could be anybody honestly, we just do not know. We'll have to wait and see, I would be wary of speculating, I think there's some groups it's less likely to be and that's fine to speculate, but I would be wary of saying with confidence who its more likely to be. Let's all allow the proper investigations to give us those answers. Democracy depends on the voters deciding, not some rogue vigilante assassin. When these things happen, everyone loses, democracy loses.
@ahartify
@ahartify Ай бұрын
@@homomorphic Maybe. I wonder if the assassin turns out to have vague Russian connections? Lee Harvey Oswald, etc. We were warned a few days ago by intelligence services about this kind of thing.
@ahartify
@ahartify Ай бұрын
@@dffndjdjd Oh, right. Just what I expected. Nothing Hollywood and conspiratorial along the lines of Lee Harvey Oswald. I'll have to tear up the first pages of my movie script now.
@mr.goldenproductions_0143
@mr.goldenproductions_0143 Ай бұрын
yeah, he was probably even a MAGA Evangelical.
@WangMingGe
@WangMingGe Ай бұрын
@@dffndjdjd Probably had pre-existing mental issues and was radicalized by a combination of media, far-left teachers spreading paranoia and so forth...unfortunately, a lot of leftists are trying to justify this, but I doubt the average American voter is going to be okay with assassination as a standard means of winning elections.
@richardfinlayson1524
@richardfinlayson1524 Ай бұрын
Do you think this is a response to the supreme court decision re presidential immunity? That is what initially occured to me, i could be wrong but that may make some people feel more desperate.
@falsemcnuggethope
@falsemcnuggethope Ай бұрын
I think the existential discourse Vlad refers to is about that, Project 2025, and other recent topics alike.
@user-it9vu9dh1d
@user-it9vu9dh1d Ай бұрын
????- you don't even have a veneer of understanding
@marcussassan
@marcussassan Ай бұрын
I was hoping you will make a comment. Thanks
@101242cg
@101242cg Ай бұрын
This is the first time I've strongly disagreed with you, Vlad. This *is* existential for American democracy. I don't think electing a neofascist is any better because it was done democratically.
@christopherlees1134
@christopherlees1134 Ай бұрын
Trump is the strongest capitalist in many decades. That makes him by definition not a fascist of any kind. I know you like to use the word fascist (it's a fun word for libs), but you sound silly to someone who understands what fascism is. And by the way, I challenge you to tell me what exactly is so evil about fascism. Let's see if you can answer that question - snowflake.
@HEL9000
@HEL9000 Ай бұрын
⁠@@christopherlees1134what’s the contradiction between capitalism and fascism? What makes them incompatible? What’s stopping Trump from becoming a fascist in the future despite him being a capitalist currently? Would you categorise Project 2025 as a capitalist initiative?
@alexleibovici4834
@alexleibovici4834 Ай бұрын
@@christopherlees1134 > Trump is the strongest capitalist in many decades Protectionism is not Capitalistic. Just one example.
@101242cg
@101242cg Ай бұрын
@@HEL9000 he's a neofascist, *now*.
@kingmaekartargaryen4975
@kingmaekartargaryen4975 Ай бұрын
Great speech - 5% … either way, yes
@108doublestitches
@108doublestitches Ай бұрын
I haven't watched for a while because he applies whatever he knows or claims to know about Russian and European politics to American politics and events. It fails. There is no relationship. I watched again with the Trump event to see. He still knows little.
@MrNoahcrow
@MrNoahcrow Ай бұрын
Having just started posting publicly about politics on social media, I've stated ofc that this action is destructive, polarizing, and should be condemned. I also drew a connection to the January 6th events, and that I'd hope that other's would have a similar attitude towards them. Emotionally speaking, others who identify with Trump might not appreciate this perspective, of course, may dislike me pointing out hypocrisy or see it as me manipulating the political discussion towards my views (which in a sense, I am). Am I approaching the subject responsibly, if not tactfully, and is this approach constructive towards democracy?
@crei0
@crei0 Ай бұрын
There's a typo on the video image/cover
@_amalfitano
@_amalfitano Ай бұрын
would you like chapters for this?
@itsallminor6133
@itsallminor6133 Ай бұрын
Yes
@_amalfitano
@_amalfitano Ай бұрын
they'll be in tomorrow morning; I had an especially rough day and am not on my a-game
@mercster
@mercster Ай бұрын
Who needs chapters for a 6 minute video?
@LarshHill
@LarshHill Ай бұрын
@@mercstersome people just deeply appreciate sharing and experiencing good ergonomics. this community appears to be generous and thoughtful outright. two good reasons i can see for this behavior
@mercster
@mercster Ай бұрын
@@LarshHill I get it, they're enthusiastic and wanna be "helpers." But it's a bit ridiculous. In the end, a 6 minute video doesn't need chapters, it's all basically one thought. People can vie for participation medals if they want, and I am within my rights to say that anyone who needs chapters on a 6 minute video probably aren't paying attention anyway.
@emmajk7433
@emmajk7433 Ай бұрын
Lovely Video, Vlad.
@jabberwocky1969
@jabberwocky1969 Ай бұрын
There's a third element polarizing the populace. Biden and Obama seemed to be speaking to their supporters who embrace violence in quite large numbers. Biden and Obama seemed a little clinical in their statements.
@jamesrogersbush9928
@jamesrogersbush9928 Ай бұрын
Vlad, have you read Ronnie De Sousa's article entitled 'Forget Morality'?
@lhaaa1059
@lhaaa1059 Ай бұрын
Okay okay okay, 5%.
@irimiashpetrina93
@irimiashpetrina93 Ай бұрын
sorry, this time I disagree.
@Igors_mind
@Igors_mind Ай бұрын
Didn't DdT say he would jail and prosecute all his opponents?
@algorithm6360
@algorithm6360 Ай бұрын
Yeah condemn Stauffenberg for his failure…
@MikeBrown-dk7or
@MikeBrown-dk7or Ай бұрын
Disappointment and the writing on Melania's famous coat comes to mind
@pavloz1818
@pavloz1818 Ай бұрын
Why are you streaming in the middle of the night, Vlad?
@alexleibovici4834
@alexleibovici4834 Ай бұрын
Did he wake you up? 😁
@lemonrand1
@lemonrand1 Ай бұрын
Putin is smiling today… Will see if Trump is able to protect democracy or sacrifice it for an election advantage..
@franjkav
@franjkav Ай бұрын
There’s nothing to suggest trump will protect democracy
@jaykebeckwith7573
@jaykebeckwith7573 Ай бұрын
Why did you decide to cut this off? What was discussed there previously?
@ignaciourena5692
@ignaciourena5692 Ай бұрын
"I was shot with a bullet that p..." of course it wasn't a SILVER BULLET that explain way I'm still alive .. :D
@Thomes-Maisling
@Thomes-Maisling Ай бұрын
Just a heads up, but you spelt assassination wrong on the thumbnail.
@warrenbruhn5888
@warrenbruhn5888 Ай бұрын
Vlad, love your channel. But I get the sense that you don't understand the level of vitriol and venom that has been growing from the Republican side since 1994. The party has been transformed over the last 30 years. Many old style Republicans are appalled.
@Anonymous-xb2km
@Anonymous-xb2km Ай бұрын
Thomas Crooks: registered republican. I rest my case.
@hmmm2564
@hmmm2564 Ай бұрын
How do you know
@hmmm2564
@hmmm2564 Ай бұрын
There are plenty of Republicans against Trump....the Lincoln project
@hmmm2564
@hmmm2564 Ай бұрын
There are plenty of Republicans against Trump....the Lincoln project
@television1088
@television1088 Ай бұрын
The fact that you said violence "NEVER" has a good effect negates your whole argument. "Rarely" would be more accurate.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Ай бұрын
No, because I am obviously talking about it in the context of functioning democracy.
@QuintaJoryal
@QuintaJoryal Ай бұрын
You don’t have a diverse audience. When you do , you will have a chance to speak for Democracy
@neilfox3208
@neilfox3208 Ай бұрын
the no political violence means the American Revolution would never have happened
@sockosophie3132
@sockosophie3132 Ай бұрын
Yep so much blood just to change british nobles to rich americans as dictators, was it worth it wirh an openly corrupt supreme court, that does as Diaper Dons bids? The U.S. is is a sad parody of a democracy, which makes it even funnier when these baffoons pretend to be experts on democracy...
@JohnFarmer-yt8cf
@JohnFarmer-yt8cf Ай бұрын
We declared ourselves a free nation and no longer a colony of England. At that point I think it was war with a foreign power? Maybe it was kind of cheating since the English forts were already there. But it definitely wasn't like this current bizarro scenario. I think it's better to keep this as peaceful as we can.
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 Ай бұрын
​@@JohnFarmer-yt8cf The argument often given for the right to bear arms is to resist tyranny. I wonder if that was motivating the shooter and whether Trump will now reconsider his position on the second amendment? SCOTUS' decision to allow presidential immunity might cause some now to view all presidents as tyrannical.
@seren3797
@seren3797 Ай бұрын
French Revolution?
@ZacharyReynolds-gc8lr
@ZacharyReynolds-gc8lr Ай бұрын
Here we go!
@JAllenKaiser
@JAllenKaiser Ай бұрын
Framing this as if it were the crossing of the political violence threshold -which will beget more of the same- is an astoundingly poor-judgement misinterpretation of why this is happening… as if Trump’s perpetration of Jan 6 _as president,_ and the lives taken that day, _weren’t_ the crossing of that threshold. What’s more: making this a _now-urgent_ call for universal condemnation is absurd on its face. There is still ANYTHING BUT universal condemnation of the fatal events of Jan 6. Condemnation of _that_ remains purely along partisan lines, with Trump’s entire party *actively condoning it, openly campaigning on it, and treating the perpetrators as “political hostages.”* That point cannot be overstated: the Republican Party itself has institutionalized and codified as virtuous political violence against their opponents. They continue to do so from the highest levels. IE: from Trump himself, the RNC, and their think-tanks like the Heritage Foundation. Ad Nauseam. Yet here we are. Listening to a political philosopher tell us _this time_ there must be universal condemnation and a return to the normalcy of political adversaries vs. enemies. This lopsided burdening of responsibility on the political bloc who *aren’t* officially - _from the highest leadership levels_ -condoning, justifying, and championing lethal force as the means to political ends… my _god_ is that shortsighted and proving to be HIGHLY irresponsible…as seen evidenced by today’s events. I maintain Vlad does not understand the political situation in the US, and is stuck here *preaching to only the lawful & peaceful victims of it all* to stop the lawlessness, simply because the demographic _not_ encouraged by their leadership to engage in such unrest are the only audience willing to lend an ear. This is all a bit like telling Ukraine to stop fighting Russia’s war of aggression against them… and the fact that Vlad can’t see the parallels between the two is gut-wrenching.
@jonathanbowen3640
@jonathanbowen3640 Ай бұрын
I prefer Vlad's take tbh.
@JAllenKaiser
@JAllenKaiser Ай бұрын
@@jonathanbowen3640you don’t see any misjudgment or hypocrisy between Vlad’s take on Ukraine vs this? I added the final bit as an edit above that you may not have seen- but I do strongly feel that _this is all a bit like telling Ukraine to stop fighting Russia’s war of aggression against them…_ and the fact that Vlad can’t see the parallels between the two is gut-wrenching.
@marhanen
@marhanen Ай бұрын
@@JAllenKaiser based on your rhetoric it would seem that you are advocating that individuals, DNC and even governmental departments that democrats control should be arresting, at minimum if not executing people they feel are a potential future criminal. The reality is that it is virtually all allowed under freedom of speech. There is no law stating that you must not advocate to change the way in which the government operates. There is no law stating that you are not allowed to change laws that have been written in the past. Article 5 of the US Constitution specifically allows for the constitution itself to be changed and the only way you can eventually get that 2/3 majority is using the 1st amendment to advocate for change whatever that may be
@SammiChimi
@SammiChimi Ай бұрын
​​​@@JAllenKaiser I just can't agree with you. Just because the other side seemingly gets away with crossing the line doesn't resolve us of the responsibility not to. Maybe you're right, that those who need this advice the most aren't the ones listening, but there is nothing to be directly done about those people from Vlad's position, so it is up to those who DO listen. Remember, we must be keenly aware of that which we can control, and take responsibility even if the other side does not. There is no normative power, but only descriptive power, in "you too" arguments. The only other option, it appears to me, will not actually get you what you want.
@JAllenKaiser
@JAllenKaiser Ай бұрын
@@SammiChimi I think you’re misinterpreting. This event should be denounced no less _and no more_ than Jan. 6 and every one of Trump and his party’s attempts to excuse and justify it. Vlad *does* have a responsibility to frame these events in their context truthfully, and _not_ tacitly approve of Trump & MAGA violence while full-throatily denouncing the very thing brought about by their own rhetoric and continued incitement. Today is directly the fruit of Trump’s and his party’s continued assault on democracy and anyone who doesn’t capitulate to their extremism. That is the truth Vlad woefully neglects here. And doing so only further adds to the GOP narrative that Republicans alone are justified in doing this against their opponents, and that when they do, it’s simply legitimate politics… because, implicitly, Vlad is capitulating to and reinforcing narrative that Republicans are the real victims. And that the lives lost at their incitement do not matter. And you know what that is going to lead to? _More of the same on repeat,_ *instead of a recognition and reckoning of how we got here, and the way back out of it.*
@eruno_
@eruno_ Ай бұрын
That what happens when media rightfully or not calls Trump threat to democracy
@jpt3640
@jpt3640 Ай бұрын
I did not understand a word. I always believed to be absolutely fluent in English... but you use a wording i probably wouldn't even understand in German. I believe you explain my opinion in way more sophisticated manner i could ever dream of. "let's keep talking to each other instead of stripping our opponent bare of any rights / dehumanize him." I hope you understand what i am trying to say.
@monkeeseemonkeedoo3745
@monkeeseemonkeedoo3745 Ай бұрын
Stop stroking his ego, sheesh
@theJellyjoker
@theJellyjoker Ай бұрын
one of these two Maxwell David Yearick Thomas Matthew Crooks
@SuperINFINITY181
@SuperINFINITY181 Ай бұрын
“Assasionation”?!
@zotriczaoh7098
@zotriczaoh7098 Ай бұрын
No ifs, no buts? Yes the first urgent thing is for Biden to give a presidential speech condemning the act and wishing his opponent well. Unfortunately though, this kind of thing is, I would say, exactly what Trump is aiming for and somehow that will need to be said at some point whilst not risking the victim blaming accusation. Ps. I see that Video did give a pretty good reaction.
@cunninglinguist-hu1dz
@cunninglinguist-hu1dz Ай бұрын
This is where Donald Trump has taken American to sadly.
@behrensf84
@behrensf84 Ай бұрын
It’s extremely unfortunate it failed…
@MikeBrown-dk7or
@MikeBrown-dk7or Ай бұрын
Disappointment and the writing on Melania's famous coat comes to mind
@severinsilmedin2588
@severinsilmedin2588 Ай бұрын
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