Try to find this setting on your Les Paul.

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Ай бұрын

This setting a producer friend showed me, which is a bit different on every guitar, makes it sound like your Les Paul has been mixed and mastered. Here we discuss exactly what it is and how to dial it in. Enjoy!
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@aonortac Ай бұрын

Bonamassa has been preaching this for ages... Instead of ice picky full on bridge pick up, blend in the lower volume neck pick up in middle position and you have the best lp tone ever!

@sidewaysrain7609 Ай бұрын

NEck pick up tone 0 to 3, neck pickup volume 6 to 9 = "WOMAN TONE!"

@kasenbanks8985 Ай бұрын

That p90 and deluxe combo is absolutely majestic…

@DJBuglip 24 күн бұрын

Any Fender amp, imo. They pair really well.

@rockerbuck967 Ай бұрын

Bonamassa himself said it - These knobs down here DO things. I tried this, and I love it - especially on my semi-hollow body....oh man....

@tfrost33elkhunter Ай бұрын

100% same with me. I can feel other peoples gunk! And my hands are dry. I only change strings as soon as I notice they are not staying in tune. And my Les Paul hits that spot at 9, 335 is at 8.5. Thanks for the tip! Literally for the past couple days I have been using that as my primary sound.

@leegollin4417 Ай бұрын

As a 40 year Les Paul player I have to say this is a great tip. The Middle position is most versatile.

@lloydloar1 Ай бұрын

Those P90s sound killer!! Justin, your insights and tips are greatly appreciated. It's also appreciated that you impart knowledge without any attitude. In other words, I think I could sit and talk to you about guitars and gear without being one of the "cool kids". Thanks for keeping it real and down to earth.

@thisdyingsoul76 Ай бұрын

I do something similar with my SG's, but its a different purpose. I may have to try this specific trick though. I like how you suddenly get your highs back in the middle but retain the big bottom of the neck. What I do is dial in my dirty sound in the middle position, then switch to the bridge and roll it back until I have a clean tone. Then my neck is my clean, middle is my crunch and bridge is my lead.

@hgostos Ай бұрын

This is something that the great late Dickey Betts did, God bless him,... I love those tones!!!

@KCBeck Ай бұрын

I’ll be using this, on my Les Paul I kind of wonder if I can put a resistor and try to get this on my 2 knob B&G. I’m gonna ask Tony Nobles

@analogblues9606 Ай бұрын

I didn’t think there was anyone else like me who feels the same about other people playing my guitars. I have dry hands too and a lot of people leave slime on the strings . They don’t get it but you do! Thanks!

@jabba5150 Ай бұрын

Same here.

@benburgess5770 Ай бұрын

I've had my Les Paul for 15 years and 2 days ago I just had this epiphany. Then you post this video lol.

@mcanderson3511 Ай бұрын

Funny thing is I just happened to catch your video totally at random! Something about tone and Les Paul's in the title...You mentioned Uncle Larry early on and then you talked about the setting and I thought, oh yeah, I heard about this around a year ago or so, and I've been searching my Les Paul's for something cool-sounding by rolling back the volume pot, but not hearing it because I wasn't sure what I was listening for exactly. Uncle Larry and another guy were just talking about it, but nobody actually demonstrated it on a guitar. After seeing your video, I can now get back to this tonight and find that spot. Most excellent, liked and subscribed!

@ericskinner7355 Ай бұрын

Love it when you find new sounds on an old guitar..

@r0bophonic Ай бұрын

7:35 Ha! I’ve been doing this since I bought my main 79 Les Paul Standard in 1992. I tried all the positions and settled on that one right away and never looked back. Bridge + neck at 10 is too woofy but neck rolled back just a bit is perfect. I thought I was the only one who does this!

@tobygordon Ай бұрын

Me too! I feel super cool for having “bumped into” this many, many years ago!

@mikehoehn1475 Ай бұрын

Leslie West was a master of les paul tones. I saw him in the late 70's in a small club. He put on a serious clinic. Really impressive

@pharmerdavid1432 Ай бұрын

We saw him back then too, but at the Santa Monica Civic with Mountain. At one point he had two Juniors at the same time, with one slung around his back that he swung around later to play - a legendary show.

@BobcatOneManBand Ай бұрын

I have tried this on my Les Paul and liked it! It also works with a Telecaster Deluxe with the 2 Wide Range pickups.

@JustinOstrander Ай бұрын

Very cool! I wondered about those Teles…

@BobcatOneManBand Ай бұрын

@JustinOstrander I like the tone it gets. You're right about it cutting that high treble out of the sound, it gets quite strident with those pickups, so I also cut the tone knob back to 5-6 on the bridge pickup

@gathda Ай бұрын

I did a mod to a Strat so that I could flip a switch and force the neck pickup on. Using this with the selector set to the bridge pickup (in this case, HSS) gives you a very pleasing sound, just like in this video.

@gathda Ай бұрын

The other thing I've experimented with on HH guitars is adding two switches to split the humbuckers independently. Running the humbucker in the neck with a split pickup in the bridge gives you a very unique sound. You get the warmth of the neck pickup with some clarity added back in from the bridge pickup.

@TheGuitarMan71 Ай бұрын

Another method is that I use the bridge pickup only and roll the tone off to about 4. It gets rid of the ice pick

@curtisprice9806 Ай бұрын

Yes....tone is all over great with moving tone knob up and down on bridge pickup!! Especially down by four. Makes music much more interesting varying the brightness and woman tone

@pastorpat59 Ай бұрын

Eastman T-59 (aka ES-345) with Seymour-Duncan Antiquity hummers: Neck volume at 9.0 - full crunch sound !! Thanks for the tip.

@kenwhisler Ай бұрын

Re the front pickup taming the back pickup…..Phil Keaggy was doing that 40 years ago…

@scotthutchens1556 Ай бұрын

@kenwhisler That’s the first thing I thought of when I heard that. It’s all through Keaggy’s music plus Glass Harp. I keep forgetting about trying that option because in my mind you get the strongest output from one pickup wired in series instead of parallel with both pickups on.

@lrye1109 Ай бұрын

I noticed that "wha" in the past on my Les Paul standard and thought it was a defect. Lol.. I have much more appreciation for it now. 9 is the spot. Thank you Justin!

@vanisher16 Ай бұрын

Haaa I guess I’m not crazy!! I’ve been doing this for years. For strummy stuff, for cleaner stuff, and for funkier stuff. Love everything you put out!

@joelwallace7604 Ай бұрын

I thought for sure you were gonna show the "Cocked Wah" trick on a Les Paul. Awesome tip!

@JustinOstrander Ай бұрын

That one is very cool, too, but I don’t use it nearly as much. I use this all the time when tracking. Sits in a mix so much better!

@joelwallace7604 Ай бұрын

@@JustinOstrander My "81 LP Standard does it at about 8-9. I hear the tone shift through my 79 Princeton and through my '91JCM900 pretty good

@richmonksgtr Күн бұрын

Recent convert to this setting. I was almost entirely wide open middle position for years. On my 2012 LP Studio with Lollars - Novel T (Tele in a humbucker rout) at the bridge, and El Reyo in the neck, the neck down to 8 is perfect.

@markpell8979 Ай бұрын

I agree. Most of my electrics have just a volume and tone control with a 3-way selector (including P-90 and humbucker Specials, stock Tele, etc.) and honestly that's plenty good enough for what I play most of the time. But what you can do by blending volume and tone in 'both' position on a Les Paul or similar guitar with four knobs, well, yeah. Almost magic. It's like a motorcycle with the right pipes. When you hear it you just think, "that's it." Great discussion.

@stevenrutherford3649 Ай бұрын

I have an SG Special that I switched out mini humbuckers for P90's. I have been having trouble getting a middle position tone that is not too harsh and trebly. Your trick worked like a charm. Thanks!

@RickMcCargar Ай бұрын

Saw Dickey Betts mention this years ago. He said he always did it.

@nicholaswoolfenden5254 Ай бұрын

I changed from 50s wiring. Reverse the switch and pickup connections and pickups are decoupled in the middle position. This gives you even more flexibility. You can turn on pickup of in middle and the ohe stays on! So the blending is endless.

@audioglenngineer Ай бұрын

I’m obsessed with that sound. First figured it out in a 5-control, 3-pickup Rickenbacker, which allows you to get several shades of that sound, instead of basically one spot on the knob. Went down a rabbit hole to figure out how to replicate that level of control on other guitars. Invented a control that replaces the pickup volume you’re trying to attenuate. Works great. Uses the entire range of the control to go from full up to just below perceptibility in parallel with the other pickup. Also doesn’t load the attenuated pickup so you get usable sounds in any position of the pickup switch, with any pickup blend dialed in, without having to turn up the attenuated pickup.

@cajuncrackerranch7990 Ай бұрын

Thanks Justin. Having never really paid attention to having a specific setting, I have typically just grab and go with a little time spent finding the tone of the guitar to match the frequency of the song in my head. As I now zeroed in on the mixing and mastering parts I am finding it necessary to focus more on the settings to speed up the post production part. But sometimes man when the song hits and the creativity is flowing… sometimes ya just got lay down them tracks and kick up the dust before that moment of inspiration blows away with the wind into the horizon. Thanks for going over this…very helpful. Typically all knobs are just maxed to ten, but I’m hearing that same slight finesse when dialing down some knobs lately. Appreciate your channel.

@benallmark9671 Ай бұрын

Very cool tone. I dig it. Thanks for sharing with us , much appreciated.

@joelstover648 Ай бұрын

1978 Ibanez Artist 2630 with Fralin PAFs sweet spot is 9.....great tip!

@StrangeAngel66 Ай бұрын

Cool can’t wait to try it

@OakwoodSongs Ай бұрын

Great tip. Thank you for sharing it! Appreciate all your great work.

@brianmiller3287 Ай бұрын

Another great video!!! Your channel is fantastic!!!

@Colinjohnmusic Ай бұрын

Love the middle position and that setting is bad ass. Thanks Justin!

@recreepy Ай бұрын

You've truly impressed me-well done!

@jaygallamore562 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip, I’m going to try it out on my LPs and also see what happens with my 335. Like you I have very dry hands. I mostly change strings when they don’t feel or sound right but generally, they last a very long time.

@robertmellang6998 Ай бұрын

I tried it. The thing is I was playing it through a solid state amp turned down. It did sound different. It did sound kinda cool, even through my gear with my Epiphone Les Paul.

@DamonBates Ай бұрын

Brilliant, very cool thanks JO; gotta go try that now!

@jeradatherton Ай бұрын

LOVE THIS. Found it on my 72 tele deluxe. Killer and useful sound. Thanks dude!

@tone1798 Ай бұрын

This episode just might be the best I’ve seen, ever. So much valuable information and playing! Really dig what you’re doing 🤙🏽🤘🏽🎸👈🏼

@JustinOstrander Ай бұрын

Awesome, thanks a ton!

@dpclementmusic Ай бұрын

What a great video with practical & immediate application. Thanks so much. Did my LP std, LP special with P90 and got great tones right away. Will see if this work with my Epiphone ES339 now. Made my day.

@michaelheinz3954 Ай бұрын

This is such a great advice. On my ES 335 it's at about 9.7, on my Les Paul R6 (P90s rule ;-)) around 8. On my SG i's the only way to tame the treble anyway. That guitar is so bright I have to roll the tone down to 5 or 6, then it's about 8 on the neck's volume pot. What I like about this setting is that you can "hide" playing rhythm and then pop out just by rolling down the neck's volume a hair.

@leonardinterior6881 Ай бұрын

that is awesome, never thought it would sound so different on the middle setting , gonna try it

@Sellarmusic Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing this one. I tried it with my 70s Tele Deluxe with Gibson P90s in it and had great results. I found a wonderful new tone I never knew the guitar had in it.

@polyphonicgroove Ай бұрын

Super cool trick Justin....can't wait to try it on my LPs.

@M0M... Ай бұрын

I do this on my tele 72 deluxe with wide range pickups. I love this trick

@neilbunker Ай бұрын

You share so much valuable knowledge and experience. Thank you!

@chrisrussoroos6091 Ай бұрын

Thanks can’t wait to try this

@JerboFotius Ай бұрын

I do something similar to this with my basses that have multiple pickups! Both full on usually scoops the mids more than I prefer, so I've found just feeling around (usually the reverse of this order, favoring the neck) changes the sound a way I like! Very cool

@JesseFSegovia Ай бұрын

This is apparently exactly how Clapton set his sunburst Les Paul on the Beano album.

@bobm7366 Ай бұрын

Hey Justin! Funny thing for me... I found this accidentally with my Les Paul custom a few months ago and now use it all the time. I had the same reaction you did. My neck setting sweet spot is 7.5. Thanks for posting... enjoyed it!

@IndianNuclear1 Ай бұрын

I haven’t tried this yet BUT I have gone the other route and blended in a little of the bridge for a tighter neck pickup kind of sound for a solo, super cool

@stephenbarrett7472 27 күн бұрын

On my 1968 Les Paul Custom I do 9 on the neck 10 on the bridge but I also do the opposite. 10 neck 9 bridge. The first way gets rid of the shrill with gain lead sounds and the second way adds a little sparkle to the clean rhythm sounds. I never touch the tone knobs. Always on 10.

@soapboxearth2 Ай бұрын

I read somewhere, years ago that page played a lot that way. Mid position . Bridge v 10, neck vol 9. Been using that a lot fpr years.

@piggycity Ай бұрын

Great video, I do the same thing on my vintage Casino in the middle position and it really makes things easier to record.

@WSBM Ай бұрын

The result of this hack was amazing. I would love to be able to achieve this with a Tele, too. But I guess we can just roll off the highs on the bridge and get there...but still, I'd like to be able to do this from the middle position.

@JerboFotius Ай бұрын

Will it work with a tele or no?

@WSBM Ай бұрын

@@JerboFotius can’t work with a tele bc there’s only one volume control for both pickups…the les Paul has a volume control for each pickup…but with the tele you can use the tone control to roll off the highs from position two but it’s not quite the same result

@JerboFotius Ай бұрын

@@WSBM ahh yes

@GeoffPeterson33 Ай бұрын

I paid for 2 pickups so I’m using em both! lol

@coachcleats13 Ай бұрын

It took me some time but, I finally heard it and I'm going to try it on my Epiphone LP

@billyslide7645 Ай бұрын

Man oh man! 😊. I applied this to my SG, and solved a particular problem, I’ve been chasing for quite a while. So on the SG it was just below 8. For my Flying V, which is newer, It was 9.

@hectorgamiz Ай бұрын

You just made me flip back the magnet of my neck pickup to the original position to try this. I made the Peter Green mod and, although it is very cool, it’s a very specific tone. I see myself using this trick more than the Peter Green mod. Thanks for the tip!

@thelonetwangster Ай бұрын

Love this. My '78 LP Custom neck at 7.5...My '80 LP Special at 8 and my '82 335 at 7. I'll be using this, who knew ? There's a similar thing that happens with dialling in the tone controls on an amp - a spot on the travel where the pot seems to be at an optimal point - I hasten to point out that this is a trick I learned from watching Matt Scofield...unfortunately this is all I could learn from watching him...Keep up the good work Justin. Oh I'm very touchy about lending guitars too...

@erikberg8352 Ай бұрын

You are spot on with this--I end the P90 in the neck to thicken and mellow the bridge humbucker on my Schecter S-1 (a Les Paul Special double-cut style model). I feel like the spot is where the boom from the neck is balanced with the high end from the bridge. The tone is key to finding the right balance in my setup (Seymour Duncan P Rails and Dimebucker pickups with independent volumes, 1 tone knob with a .22mF capacitor). Neck volume 9, bridge volume 8, Tone on 3 into a Marshall Plexi-style preamp.

@meeno_the_man Ай бұрын

The 4 knob set up has me so hooked to my Paul’s.

@kevinmusso2397 Ай бұрын

This video feels like Christmas 🎄. Like the special Christmas, when you got something you didn’t know you were gonna get, but it ends up being the best thing you ever got. I just tried it on my Knaggs Kenai and it’s 8.5👈🏼

@thumbody1 Ай бұрын

Yup. I learned about that watching Snowy White play. Like you said, this technique also applies to SG's and 335 style guitars or basically any conventional Gibson-ish guitar with 2 pickups on it. On my 60's Tribute Gold Top reissue Les Paul it's about 7-1/2 where the magic happens. On my old 63 SG Custom (almost a Les Paul) it's 8 and on my CS356 it's also about 8. I did some wiring shenanigans on my SG so I could get a bridge and neck pickup selection. It's not possible with the stock switching configuration. The PAF's on the SG really speak when it's set this way. There is also some mojo to be had by messing with the tone pot on the bridge pickup on that middle selection setting if the amp/speaker combination is really bright and hard to tame. It usually doesn't take much of a roll-off to dial it in. I like doing that tone-pot-thing when using just the bridge pickup on the Les Paul as well. It helps takes that upper mid-range spike out of it. It also helps open up a hole where the vocal can peek through. Very effective when playing through something like a Twin Reverb turned up loud. They can get ice-picky very easy even when using an attenuator like an Ox Box. The good thing about the attenuator is that the Twin can get really dirty sounding when set at about 8 without blowing the paint off the walls. That also helps tame the top end.

@57ebartley Ай бұрын

Thanks, I can’t wait to try it. Have a Gibson LP studio and 2 SG’s. Plus a newer Epi Sheraton 2 Pro which I’m still trying to figure out if I like at all.

@DreHolzer Ай бұрын

Great video! Thanks! I've got this 1991 pre-historic custom art 1956 Goldtop with P100s in it. I kind of do the opposite while searching for usable tones in a mix. So, the neck volume and tone are on ten, but the bridge volume and tone are on 3 or 4, and I get similar results. Now, obviously, I'm gonna try this!

@thebrysmith3 Ай бұрын

Favorite setting for my PRS McCarty SE 594 Singlecut.

@petrekguitars 26 күн бұрын

Great Video this was really interesting. You have a new subscriber. Best Regards Nik

@jivetolkein Ай бұрын

Have a sub for walking through this - I almost never use my mid setting, going to play with this and it maybe the new default. And if it is I'm going to feel stooopid :-D (that amp / guitar combo sounds absolutely amazing btw)

@JustinOstrander Ай бұрын

Thanks a ton! Noticed your handle-I’ve read lots of Tolkien to my kids before bed.

@Stratguy10NZ Ай бұрын

facinating!

@thahacksaw 29 күн бұрын

Sweaty handed gunk maker here 👋🏻 🤣 and I totally get it. My guitar was around 8.5 for the frequency scoop 🙌🏻

@dreamscuba Ай бұрын

Great tip. Thank you.

@garrymacdonald2770 Ай бұрын

Nice vid, Justin. I do this from time to time. learned it from Al Dimeola back in the 80's. He always had the selector in the middle on his Les Pauls and rolled one or the other pickup volume down. The only problem I have with it is if I want to roll down to clean up; just can't roll both volumes at the same time. Thanks again.

@pablopicasso7343 13 күн бұрын

Did this on my Gretsch Semihollow, and it sounds great! There are no numbers on the pot, so I have to do it by ear every time. Thinking about my Cabronita-Tele with those amazing Jazzmaster-Pickups, the middle position is not that great. Since this guitar has only 1 Volume an 1 Tone Pot, I think I could change the Switch to an 5-stages-switch with the possibility to dial in the ratio between bridge an neck with little trim pots. It is worth a try!

@actionjacksondan Ай бұрын

Thank you sir!

@lukehearn1341 Ай бұрын

This is an awesome tip

@jaltsch1 Ай бұрын

Nice! Similar idea (different objective) on a strat wired with a master tone & blender pot: to get pretty close to a tele middle sound, I have the pu switch on the bridge pu, and roll back the blender to blend in only a portion of the neck. A 50/50 bridge-neck blend doesn't get nearly as close to a tele, needs to be more bridge than neck. Probably because in a strat the neck is usually stronger and in a tele the bridge is stronger, you can get close to the tele middle balance on a strat with a blender pot.

@WyattBrown377 Ай бұрын

Really cool!

@maxjpind Ай бұрын

It’s 8.5 for the Seth Lovers in my 335 (50s wiring of course). Absolute Magic!

@metallover8 Ай бұрын

I tried this on my Telecaster Custom. Good idea

@DJAkilleez Ай бұрын

Very cool! can be a really useful thing on jazz basses too (neck pickup at 10 and bridge at like 9.5ish)

@AndyNyle Ай бұрын

i own only one LP and it has p90s and i discovered this trick to thicken up the bridge sound to make it thicker. 😊

@mortonwilson795 Ай бұрын

Faskinating! 😀 Will try this on my '68 Custom next time I'm in the studio. I usually use middle position 'clean' and push neck or bridge for solo stuff but this sounds like fun - thanks for the insight. And the guy could have been a little more polite and just asked you to play with the volume . . . some people, I guess.

@philf4086 Ай бұрын

Great video Justin! Ever since I've learned which famous players are using the middle position (Dickey, Randy Bachman, both Stones players) I've become a fan. I have an Epi '59 LP with Burstbuckers, it's good enough for me. I am trying this tonight to see if the effect is the same. I usually have the Bridge on 9 and the Neck on 7 or 8.

@justinpaquette224 Ай бұрын

If you apply that same concept to 2 out of phase pickups, lots of cool tones to be had

@2na-phish 25 күн бұрын

i play a Tele and i just subscribed to this channel. fascinating stuff here.

@edtweed5e4-a Ай бұрын

Your video is brilliant as usual Justin, that is sometimes referred to as the "Quack point" on LP's etc

@OliverAmberg Ай бұрын

My credit card says: Thank you for letting me know that I need another Les Paul with P90 loaded... 😵‍💫 Great tones Justin!

@jimshorts6751 25 күн бұрын

Gibson 335 - 8.5 Gibson LPS - 7 Gibson LPjr dc - 9 Gibson L6 - 7.5 If you ever wonder why Gretsch guitars have a master volume, this is why. Those old jazz guys knew this way back. Hartley Peavey achieved the same with the T-60 by using the tone knobs to split the coils at 12 o'clock. Worth studying the wiring in those guitars. Been doing this for years. I don't even buy pickups without wiring a set up like this to see how they cohabitate. When you set to middle position, you halve the resistance. If you have 500k pots, you effectively now have 250k output. My "hot" guitar has hand selected 500 or 1000k pot that read about 750k to a multimeter. You have to choose the cheapest CTS or Bournes pots to get this, and you have to go through dozens... or more, until you have a matched set. It allows me to turn down even further before completely shorting the circuit. I built an Epiphone Dot in stereo, so the neck and bridge pu don't share capacitance. I just added a switchable 2nd capacitor to both legs and got the same result. Exploring different wiring is a fun hobby.👍

@COLDMKULTRA Ай бұрын

I did the Peter Green reverse polarity magnet mod on my LP ... so I dot think that this would apply to me! ... Great video Justin 👍👍👍 BTW ... in the 70's playing in pub rock bands in the UK ... we had virtually no FX pedals ... using the guitars volume and tone settings was the only way to control the monstrous amps !

@richdonn Ай бұрын

Found this long ago. Similar tone shift can be had turning down the bridge pickup a little. Works on all my 4-control Gibsons.

@fredrikheghammar 13 сағат бұрын

try to do thhe same with the tone knob as well. with 50s wiring the tone knob does way more than adjusting the low end... its a freaking mid control as well. For some reason I usually end up setting the same value on the volume and tone. On my -57 its around 7, make the neck pick up sound like a strat 🙂

@ajstudiobgd Ай бұрын

Thank you very much for your advice 👍On LP style with DiMarzio Paf 59 pickups is about 8.5 , on 335 style with Wilkinson Vintage Voiced WOCHB pickups is about 9.

@robertmellang6998 Ай бұрын

I’am having coffee now. I am going to try that on all my Hum-bucker guitars.

@utahprepper8925 Ай бұрын

Even though they aren't wired the same, this works well with Blacktop Filtertrons in a Gretsch 5420. BTW on my 1019 Les Paul Standard 50's the magic happens at 8 - 1/2.

@mdrummey Ай бұрын

Very cool! I know Jimmy Herring loves this setting on both pickups w/ the neck slightly backed off. On my P90 LP I sometimes struggle w/ the neck pickup being too boomy/bassy. Sounds like yours is perfectly balanced!

@JustinOstrander Ай бұрын

Awesome. The spot I’m looking for can be pretty different on some guitars. I try it out on every Gibson I pick up.