TRYING TO LEARN FINNISH (for real) | Part 8

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Dave Cad

Dave Cad

Күн бұрын

So, Duolingo has finally released a course in Finnish! I thought I'd sit down and do a couple of lessons and show you where I'm at!
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• How old are you? •
31
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6ft 4 (or 192 cm)
• Where do you live? •
Helsinki, Finland
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Canon EOS R (body)
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Пікірлер: 301
@veerahelppolainen3233
@veerahelppolainen3233 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, when there was that sentence about the plants and the flowers (There are five little flowers in the plant) you translated it as "Kasvissa on viisi pientä lasta" which means "There are five little CHILDREN in the plant" :D Lasta on its own is a word for spatula, but its also a different form of the word lapsi or lapset. Don't you just love the simplicity of Finnish? :D
@elinahamalainen5867
@elinahamalainen5867 3 жыл бұрын
"There are five little spatulas in the plant" would be "Kasvissa on viisi pientä lastaa". So simple :D
@tonibufu6103
@tonibufu6103 3 жыл бұрын
Also, "There are five little kids in the plant" works well :D
@smallfan1995
@smallfan1995 3 жыл бұрын
I believe "lasta" is a partitive case from the word "lapsi"
@JiihaaS
@JiihaaS 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think simplicity or complexity of Finnish plays a part here, since "lasta" meaning 2 different things is merely a coincidence. It's a bit like an "I scream for ice cream" thing but with the exact same letters, making the words look the same.
@thematsQ
@thematsQ 3 жыл бұрын
I was just about to comment about this misunderstanding lol
@llssneN
@llssneN 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about the "missä on vessa vs missä vessa on", both are correct, for some reason this particular app cares though. In finnish sentence order is actually very free, both in official written finnish and spoken one :)
@Blirre
@Blirre 3 жыл бұрын
The sentence structure is free but gives a lot of nuance. It's good that the app teaches the neutral way of speaking.
@dualityofsoul3841
@dualityofsoul3841 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i think it would be important to learn the most used word order even though people can understand you no matter what way you put it it would still sound weird to others by saying it in that order
@altmail1572
@altmail1572 3 жыл бұрын
Word order has next to zero importance in Finnish. At the level Dave is at least. No reason to stress about it, or let it prevent you from speaking! :) You can express nuances with word order, but everybody WILL understand your question as long as you have the right question word (mikä, missä, minne ect.) and preferably the right endings too.
@akumjh
@akumjh 3 жыл бұрын
Also, the subject can be dropped if it's implied by the rest of the sentence.
@elderscrollsswimmer4833
@elderscrollsswimmer4833 3 жыл бұрын
@@akumjh Verb form to be precise. It's even recommended to do so unless it's third person (singular or plural) or mean to emphasize. However, there is one tiny thing in this that's common in so many languages. First word in a sentence must be capitalized. So if it's giving you a list of words to be put in you really should start with one that is capitalized.
@Nebresto
@Nebresto 3 жыл бұрын
Dave you should do a livestream of learning, then you can have immediate assistance if needed. Also it would be a really fun way to interact
@danielhaliseva
@danielhaliseva 3 жыл бұрын
He has done many
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 3 жыл бұрын
He has done that in the past , but he hasn't been streaming for a while
@Nebresto
@Nebresto 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielhaliseva On youtube?
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nebresto twitch , you can find link to his twitch on the description
@davecad
@davecad 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to, and will soon!
@KultaJaba
@KultaJaba 3 жыл бұрын
If you use Duolingo on the computer each course has a "tips" section and there is a ton of grammar and other knowledge about the language.
@aahpuuh
@aahpuuh 3 жыл бұрын
thats on phones too
@Pseudoplasmagore
@Pseudoplasmagore 3 жыл бұрын
@@aahpuuh It didn't use to be, but it's good that they've introduced that important feature to phones as well
@olza5556
@olza5556 3 жыл бұрын
It doesnt matter if you say "Missä on vessa" or "Missä vessa on" everyone understands it.
@Vvopat96
@Vvopat96 3 жыл бұрын
yea it doesn't matter in Finland which order you say these. That app is wrong about it, it's not correct to get you not right when you do that order
@pasi1900
@pasi1900 3 жыл бұрын
Or just ask missä vessa?
@6891x
@6891x 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there are still a lot of mistakes in Duolingo's Finnish course.
@closetmonster5057
@closetmonster5057 3 жыл бұрын
The word order matters usually: Missä on vessa? = Where is A bathroom? Missä vessa on? = Where is THE bathroom?
@Aurinkohelmi
@Aurinkohelmi 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vvopat96 Same in other languages on Duolingo too though. Example tycka is think on Swedish course, even though that really means like.
@wanhapatu
@wanhapatu 3 жыл бұрын
Huge upvote on the "pöllöt seuraavat meitä" part! Goooo Dave!
@davecad
@davecad 3 жыл бұрын
:) :) I was quite proud of that!
@teasdaye
@teasdaye 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, in spoken Finnish it wouldn't even be out of place to hear 3rd person plural (pro)noun + singular verb. I know that's how I speak at least lol. Either way, yeah, it's good to know the rules before you go breaking them.
@Ganarialintu
@Ganarialintu 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say actually quite many Finns would get that wrong, because it's ok to say that in the spoken language. Well done!
@wwilii
@wwilii 3 жыл бұрын
When you said "no niin" that sounded so Finnish! 🙌😂 Also good job, you've come so far! 😍
@albertlindgren7289
@albertlindgren7289 3 жыл бұрын
16:36 the "lasta" meant "lapsi" (child) in this context. spatula would've been "lastaa"
@LustWaffel
@LustWaffel 3 жыл бұрын
Opettaa lasta (To teach a child) Haistaa kukkaa (To smell a flower) as an example. Lasta would be for example Käyttää lastaa (To use a spatula)
@elderscrollsswimmer4833
@elderscrollsswimmer4833 3 жыл бұрын
@@LustWaffel Rintalasta tuotiin (sairaalaan) rintalasta, jolla oli murtunut rintalasta.
@jjasminum
@jjasminum 3 жыл бұрын
At 16.26 you google translate lasta to spatula, which is true. But in this case, lasta is the partitive case of lapsi, a child. So your sentence would mean that there are five small children in the plant :D
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 3 жыл бұрын
16:28 lasta could also mean kid :D "there are five small kids in the plant" :D
@jounik4128
@jounik4128 3 жыл бұрын
Child: lapsi - lapsen - lasta Spatula: lasta - lastan - lastaa (nominatiivi, genetiivi, partitiivi)
@wanhapatu
@wanhapatu 3 жыл бұрын
Not "also" but only.
@bavuh1249
@bavuh1249 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched the video yet, but from what I've heard the FInnish duolingo course is still like in an early beta phase, so take every lesson you don't feel certain about with a grain of salt.
@davecad
@davecad 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Absolutely. It's still in Beta and not scheduled to fully launch until the end of the year - I assume it'll be later than that though. But I think so far, it's pretty great! And an amazing FREE resource!
@Usakko
@Usakko 3 жыл бұрын
I tried the Finnish duolingo course for fun (as a native speaker) and I constantly struggled with the word order. I would have definitely answered "Missä on vessa?" too. (In daily conversation I could go either way. ) I had no idea they had sweet lörtsy either :o
@aefinn
@aefinn 3 жыл бұрын
some of those sentences were horrible. Like the "se on seinässä" is "it is in the wall" but somewhow they assumed you automatically mean you plugged an charger or something into the wall.
@aefinn
@aefinn 3 жыл бұрын
8:05 plural was doubled in finnish for no reason. You don't need "te" in when it is already in "haluatte".
@aefinn
@aefinn 3 жыл бұрын
13:14 you were right on that one. Like with previously, you don't need the "Minä" at start when the word "opiskelen" has n at the end. It already tells it's about you.
@MaggaraMarine
@MaggaraMarine 3 жыл бұрын
@@aefinn _"plural was doubled in finnish for no reason."_ Not a mistake, though - it just sounds a bit formal. There is nothing wrong with saying "minä opiskelen" either. Actually, even in spoken language, people often say "mä opiskelen", even though they could just say "opiskelen". So, there's nothing "horrible" about those particular sentences. But I agree with the "se on seinässä" one - you need to know the context to be able to translate that "correctly".
@teasdaye
@teasdaye 3 жыл бұрын
I would assume the context for the seinä was provided in the lesson he skipped, lol
@michabach274
@michabach274 3 жыл бұрын
I also got worked up over that "se on seinässä" sentence. In most cases, you would have to assume it means "It is in the wall." unless the words 'pistoke' (plug) or 'johto' (cord) immediately precede it in the same context.
@jayh3805
@jayh3805 3 жыл бұрын
Soo happy to have found this channel 😊😊😊 I'm also in the process of learning my tyttäystävän äidinkieli but don't have access to other learners to work off/race like I did when I learnt french. Your videos will fill that niche excellently! Kiitos paljon ja onnea matkaan.
@michabach274
@michabach274 3 жыл бұрын
The verb endings -ko and -kö can be used to turn a declarative statement into a question. Sinulla on kännykkä. -> Onko sinulla kännykkä? Sinulla ei ole kännykkää. -> Eikö sinulla ole kännykkää? Sinä osaat puhua suomea. -> Osaatko sinä puhua suomea? Sinä pärjäät hyvin lasten kanssa. -> Pärjäätkö sinä hyvin lasten kanssa? (to manage, to cope)
@joalampela8612
@joalampela8612 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bumra Valuable Finnish right here. Write that down, Dave! Write that down!
@michabach274
@michabach274 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot to add this useful example when I wrote my first comment: Epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydelläänsäkään. -> Epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydelläänsäkäänkö?
@katjamustonen72
@katjamustonen72 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, I tend to say "Missä on vessa?" over "Missä vessa on?". For me somehow the first sentence implies that there is a toilet somewhere but I just don't know where. Whereas the second one is more like "Omg, the toilet is missing." 😂 Probably just me, though.
@JiihaaS
@JiihaaS 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 😃
@SamuliK96
@SamuliK96 3 жыл бұрын
Especially in infornal spoken language that order works better, as you can basically combine missä and on into "misson". Miss vessa on would just sound poetic
@TheRuinedWonderland
@TheRuinedWonderland 3 жыл бұрын
Same 😂
@shadow_song
@shadow_song 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamuliK96 miss vessa on? hänt' kovasti kaipailen runoillen ma haikailen
@Pseudoplasmagore
@Pseudoplasmagore 3 жыл бұрын
I always tend to say "Mis teil on vessa?" or "Mis tääl on vessa?" 🤔. "Missä vessa on?" or "Missä on vessa?" sounds somehow demanding or rude to me 😂
@onboard3
@onboard3 3 жыл бұрын
Double consonants always pronounced in Finnish. "so akku" is "ak-ku" not "a-ku" and "käyttää" is "käyt-tää" not "käy-tää". When ever you see double consonants back to back, just stick hyphen in between there and hyphenation shall be correct :) Just like "kännykkä" you've likely mastered years ago :P
@kaewakoyangi8071
@kaewakoyangi8071 Жыл бұрын
He's still at odds with double letters? 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃
@rrrreidlin
@rrrreidlin 3 жыл бұрын
"There are five small children in the plant" :D grammar shenanigans
@rrrreidlin
@rrrreidlin 3 жыл бұрын
five spatulas would have been "viisi lastaa" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@6891x
@6891x 3 жыл бұрын
"Minkäkokoinen"...?? Who writes it like that, to me it's more natural as two separate words "minkä kokoinen". But I guess both are correct.
@Blirre
@Blirre 3 жыл бұрын
Both are correct but this definitely looks unnatural. Whereas words ending -lainen, for example tuonlainen, look better written together.
@TheRawrnstuff
@TheRawrnstuff 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Blirre According to KOTUS, -lainen and -läinen are usually written attached to pronouns, but separated from nouns and proper nouns. Ie. "Minunlaiseni", but "Aleksis Kiven lainen". (although noting that more commonly "lainen" is replaced by "kaltainen" in the latter cases.)
@Blirre
@Blirre 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRawrnstuff So just like I said.
@Confield
@Confield 3 жыл бұрын
Blirre tuonlainen isnt a real word, its spelled tuollainen
@Blirre
@Blirre 3 жыл бұрын
@@Confield They are both correct.
@aavakainen
@aavakainen 3 жыл бұрын
Your Finnish is amazing and you have learned it really fast! You should definitely be proud of yourself.
@lordoverflow
@lordoverflow 3 жыл бұрын
The one who made that Duolingo course sure like to "teititellä"... Native speakers doesn't really use that style these days except maybe when speaking to elderly person.
@Silveirias
@Silveirias 3 жыл бұрын
Teitittely kunniaan! Itse teitillene vanhempien ihmisten lisäksi myös asiakkaita.
@vainolli5471
@vainolli5471 3 жыл бұрын
Tätä ihmettelin ja mielestäni kannattaisi korjata. Meidän rakkaassa kielessämme muodollinen ("teitittely") ja monikko sattuu olemaan sama sanamuoto, varmasti hämmentää opiskelijaa, kuten Davea tässä videossa.
@LustWaffel
@LustWaffel 3 жыл бұрын
Ite kans teitittelen ihmisiä suht usein mut se ei kyl ole tarpeellista opetella näin aikasessa vaiheessa mielestäni. Ikinä en oo ketään tavannu joka olis teitittelyä vaatinut varsinkin jos tietää että puhuja on ulkomaalainen 😅
@elainelouve
@elainelouve 3 жыл бұрын
At the hospital nurses use it for all adults, except perhaps young ones. They also say "madam".
@Rosak
@Rosak 3 жыл бұрын
But shouldn't it be written with a capital letter, not with a small one which would be plural? Might be that just years abroad have maimd my grammar, but have a distinct memore of learning the following: "Onko sinulla kännykkää?" = Do you have a cellphone? (singular) "Oko teillä kännykkää?" = Do you have a cellphone? (plural) "Onko Teillä kännykkää?" = Do you have a cellphone? (singular, polite) Apparently called T-V distinction in English according to Wikipedia. Now that I think of it, the capital letter might just be a fabication of my mind or something.... none the less, it just makes things confusing if it's not explained at any point. Plus it's relatively rare these days anyways. Probably useful to learn, if you're a foreigner hearing it from servic people or so.
@peppermint_latte
@peppermint_latte 3 жыл бұрын
The grammar is explained more on the desktop web pages! It's the little light bulbs on lesson tabs. Unfortunately on mobile, not all languages have the light bulbs (but they're working on that, I believe). Hope that helps!!!
@Yoarashi
@Yoarashi 3 жыл бұрын
that went so well! you've come so far and learned so much, congratulations!!
@AK_.
@AK_. 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, when you get an answer correct, it says correct and there are two buttons. The left one explains grammar!
@neajokela
@neajokela 3 жыл бұрын
Good job, Dave! You get better and better every day👌😄
@MoltenArmour
@MoltenArmour 3 жыл бұрын
I do duolingo on my laptop so that you can have an option to just type the answers then it doesn't give you any hints which is much better for testing if you ACTUALLY know it.
@MrScorpnok
@MrScorpnok 3 жыл бұрын
Mitä peliä haluat pelata was spot on and you couldnt know whether it was plurar or not at 8:00
@Zanmefagalion
@Zanmefagalion 3 жыл бұрын
In spoken Finnish it's more common to say "pöllöt seuraa meitä" than "pöllöt seuraavat meitä". Seuraavat sounds very official and proper.
@LustWaffel
@LustWaffel 3 жыл бұрын
That Pöllöt seuraavat meitä was seriously impressive.
@catharticmuffin4873
@catharticmuffin4873 3 жыл бұрын
The word "Te" is also sometimes used as a single person because it's for some reason more polite. And it's used in army and when talking to a person that is a leader or something.
@_riippuu
@_riippuu 3 жыл бұрын
Te is used in a singular form when talking to a stranger, especially if they're older than you. Customer servants may use it too
@catharticmuffin4873
@catharticmuffin4873 3 жыл бұрын
@@_riippuu that is true ^^
@MalkWilliams
@MalkWilliams 3 жыл бұрын
I've been on Duolingo Finnish since it launched too! Regarding what you said about grammatical explanations, the notes for the first eight rows of topics on this course are pretty good, but they admit that the rest are still a work in progress. The best explanations of Finnish grammar I've seen in a course are in that "Taste of Finnish" course that you did a video on a while ago, when you did some of the end-of-module tests to see how much your Finnish had improved!
@Vissysaurus
@Vissysaurus 3 жыл бұрын
You can read about the grammar on the tips part of each duolingo module.
@jamesparker2413
@jamesparker2413 2 жыл бұрын
I’m on my 33rd day streak on Duolingo Finnish, and I’ll say I’m really happy with what I’ve learned. But watching you struggle to say words and guessing makes me feel really good about my own success so far, which is paltry in comparison to your 10 day lol.
@emmavuorinen2720
@emmavuorinen2720 3 жыл бұрын
When you use duolingo you can open a comment section for every task / sentence you're answered. It's great help with the grammar questions :) At least for me as I study spanish most sentences have been discussed quite alot, but I'm guessing finnish is not (yet) as popular... but you can open the comments when you have answered something and you get the correct/incorrect notification, and on the right top corner of that notification there is a small speech bubble, so there. Good luck on learning finnish! I love your videos 😊
@inkasaarinen7128
@inkasaarinen7128 3 жыл бұрын
You are doing so well Dave!! 🤩
@jasminkristiinavlog
@jasminkristiinavlog 3 жыл бұрын
I am truly amazed of how well you are speaking already ! Finnish is top 5 of the hardest languages in the entire world so you are doing more than well (especially thinking that you are not in school and have a newborn). Keep going 🙌🏼
@KayzeeFPS
@KayzeeFPS 3 жыл бұрын
I actually started using duolingo for Finnish. So far I've grinded over 1200 xp in 2 days which is overkill, but I have to say the app is addictive with their leaderboard system, gamification etc. Highly recommend it.
@eki5393
@eki5393 3 жыл бұрын
Lapsi(child) becomes "Lasta" with that "sta" ending, sta is used when verb is used. Lasta (spatula) become Lastasta with sta ending. Lastaa! = load!(for example truck)( but it's like u order somebody to do it) "Lastata" = load ( in basic verb)
@Zorcci
@Zorcci 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, remembering you struggling with the language back in the days, I cannot be feeling proud on behalf of you after seeing you crush Duolingo. :) Take a moment to watch your old videos where you tried to speak Finnish and reflect on the difference, how much you have learned. Awesome job.
@Sargon57
@Sargon57 3 жыл бұрын
Te (You) is used as both plural or singular (Te, Teidän, Teitä, Teidät, Teissä, Teistä, Teihin, Teillä, Teiltä, Teille, Teinä, Teiksi, Teittä) (personal pronoun) plural second person; means a group of persons to which the speaker does not belong, but which is spoken by the speaker (personal pronoun) in a polite or formal interview/conversation to refer to one person; is often used when speaking to a person older than the speaker or in a significant position (usually capitalized for courtesy and formal reasons
@paralleeli5412
@paralleeli5412 3 жыл бұрын
Finnish endings are sometimes difficult for finnish speaking people too. Specially when speaking name of places. For example In Helsinki=Helsingissä, in Tampere=Tampereella, in Turku= Turussa, in Petäjävesi= Petäjävedellä and the most difficult In Kangasala= Kangasalla. So don’t worry about -ssa,-ssä,-lla or -llä endings!
@Pseudoplasmagore
@Pseudoplasmagore 2 жыл бұрын
Mä sanon jotta Kangasalassa
@Krissyrocksoutloud
@Krissyrocksoutloud 2 жыл бұрын
If you want more in depth explanations of the grammar, use the website version of duolingo. When you click the lesson category you have the option to read the "tips" or start the lesson. Click the "tips" to get the grammar points. It's still not as in depth as something like a textbook but it does explain things rather than just throwing you to the sharks to figure it out. Also it's worth it to read the discussions after you complete a question if you're unsure about the answer. Usually if it's a point of "why is it X instead of Y" someone else will have asked and someone else will have answered.
@Jemppu
@Jemppu 3 жыл бұрын
AAH! "Pöllöt seuraavat meitä" - So proud of you; many Finns don't get the plural right *haha* And, indeed, as someone already pointed out: "missä vessa on?" and "missä on vessa?" are both correct. "Missä vessa on?" I'd translate "Where's the toilet?", where as "Missä on vessa?" is more accurately "Where's a toilet?".
@Kirsikkasade
@Kirsikkasade 3 жыл бұрын
Dave sulla menee tosi hyvin, mahtavaa!
@NyuAtreides
@NyuAtreides 3 жыл бұрын
im so excited they have finnish on duolingo now! i've been waiting for this moment for so long T_T
@jereisverydumb
@jereisverydumb 3 жыл бұрын
Dont miss a chalenge or the evil bird gonna be angery
@davecad
@davecad 3 жыл бұрын
eeek! >_>
@mustanaamiotto3812
@mustanaamiotto3812 3 жыл бұрын
i think duolingo should learn how finnish works first
@Bart1260
@Bart1260 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice Dave! It is important to remember that we are studying languages to communicate and understand each other - NOT to speak grammatically correctly! You CAN say: "Missä on vessa?" and "missä vessa on?" As well as "Minkä kokoinen on tämä paita?" is correct too. ("Minkä kokoinen" is in a separate just FYI, Duolingo!) E.g. "Minkä värinen on lippu, joka annetaan junassa?" (="What is the colour that ticket I give in a train?") is same with "Mikä junassa annettavan lipun väri on?" or "Minkä värisen lipun annan junassa?" (="what colour ticket will I give in a train?"). :)
@TheTrekkio
@TheTrekkio 3 жыл бұрын
You go mate! You did really good job :)
@albertlindgren7289
@albertlindgren7289 3 жыл бұрын
6:44 some duolingo courses, such as French or German have tips that explain grammar, but most don't, especially new ones like the Finnish course.
@olza5556
@olza5556 3 жыл бұрын
When Davie answers correct Davie : OHOOOHOOHOHOO
@sssddd3
@sssddd3 3 жыл бұрын
16:22 you said "there are five small children in the plant" ,, not spatulas 💀💀
@saramariaana
@saramariaana 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah lapsi=child and lasta=children 😂
@MollyMalone1983
@MollyMalone1983 3 жыл бұрын
I know lörtsyt from Savonlinna, and they had the sweet ones filled with jam or apple sauce or the savoury ones with meat. Both delicious!
@semmone9723
@semmone9723 3 жыл бұрын
great dave you are clearly evolved !
@MrScorpnok
@MrScorpnok 3 жыл бұрын
I am currently trying to learn french with my girlfriend, nice to hear finnish came to duolingo too!
@MrScorpnok
@MrScorpnok 3 жыл бұрын
Also, the french classes seems to be better explained and made...there are hints and you can check what a single word means...but hey, this just came so i bet there will be improvements!
@tarmosuomalainen6347
@tarmosuomalainen6347 3 жыл бұрын
No pressure man with the word order Finnish words works almost in whatever order you like to put them. For example that ”missä vessa on”, as a native Finn I think that its mostly said ”missä on vessa” ~Keep it goin
@crispygift
@crispygift 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, you are doing great! Don't be too bothered about the word order in sentences, it really doesn't matter. I'm Finnish and I could get that "wrong".
@suparauta8026
@suparauta8026 3 жыл бұрын
You've learned so much Finnish. Wow! 🤩
@yorkaturr
@yorkaturr 3 жыл бұрын
I just heard of Duolingo because some website mentioned that Finnish became available in that. Now I've been addicted to learning Chinese. It's like the most addictive game ever :D
@MrAatami
@MrAatami 3 жыл бұрын
When in doubt, use plural form. It's considered polite and I have started using plurals, because I can be a bit harsh with the words even on Finnish standards. It helps though, people seem more apologetic and thankful.
@MrAatami
@MrAatami 3 жыл бұрын
oh and more helpful
@mehsatunnainen9726
@mehsatunnainen9726 3 жыл бұрын
In the phone version of the Duolingo i have had the choice between suggested words and free typing, but that has so far only happened when I'm trying to get a better level on a course I've already beaten. Btw. those for me have measured my learning much better and usually that's the kind of information I actually remember.
@pihlakorhola662
@pihlakorhola662 3 жыл бұрын
Jätkähä puhuu suomee iha törkeen hyvin!you speak so good finnish💖
@Julia19.10
@Julia19.10 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using duolingo on my laptop where it let's you choose between typing or using the suggested word and I can really recommend that as an extra challenge :)
@davecad
@davecad 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I've done that a little bit too. It was just a little more convenient for me to record from the phone but I absolutely agree!
@buttersstotch7981
@buttersstotch7981 3 жыл бұрын
16:56 Duolingo "The Russia gray because mouse the small flower is sniffing"
@mhyotyni
@mhyotyni 3 жыл бұрын
It is a bit irritating that some Duolingo phrases seem to use rather formal language while others phrases are "kid speech" with slang words and shortcut grammar. You will get understood allright everywhere with these phrases, however.
@jecceworks
@jecceworks 3 жыл бұрын
At 16:31 it's also five small children in the plant Lasta= is in some cases children
@_riippuu
@_riippuu 3 жыл бұрын
I love it how Dave pronounced Prague the Finnish way although it is an English word 😄
@mutedcello8138
@mutedcello8138 3 жыл бұрын
at the moment "flying" through those first parts of that course..... still, learning new words. Miss seeing other "Finnish" learners there I only see Spanish and English learners pop up here. Would be nice to see some other Finnish learners ..... of only to stay motivated ( found you there and am following)
@tatu8927
@tatu8927 3 жыл бұрын
You could log into Duolingo online, and that has an option to use the keyboard instead of the word construction thing when it asks about a sentence
@Ikide
@Ikide 3 жыл бұрын
6:05 that half smile :D
@massikkamies7299
@massikkamies7299 3 жыл бұрын
Tosi kiva asia että näkee että joku opettelee suomea👍👍
@kpt002
@kpt002 3 жыл бұрын
"What game do you want to play?" can be translated both "Mitä peliä sinä pelaat" ja "Mitä peliä te pelaatte" - so you had it correct, all though Duolingo used plural and you singular..
@Blirre
@Blirre 3 жыл бұрын
* haluat pelata / haluatte pelata
@seelamp
@seelamp 3 жыл бұрын
I am currently studying Spanish on Duolingo and it comes up with such weird sentences, but I've heard some sentences from the Finnish one and they're extra weird😂but keep up the hard work Dave💪and btw Leo is one of the cutest babies I've ever seen😍
@davecad
@davecad 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! There's a lot of sentences about wizards which is weird! haha. (p.s. Leo says thanks :D)
@joojoojeejee6058
@joojoojeejee6058 3 жыл бұрын
Seemingly plural expressions are not necessary plural, they can also be a formal singular style... (For example, "te" (=you) can be both plural or singular, just like in English, except the singular use is formal and not very common these days.)
@jomppa1505
@jomppa1505 3 жыл бұрын
U are really good!
@MultiKesis
@MultiKesis 3 жыл бұрын
"Teillä" is a plural, but it is also formally addressing (teitittely) when used with one person
@jarikinnunen1718
@jarikinnunen1718 3 жыл бұрын
"Voi" is butter and "able"
@syntse
@syntse 3 жыл бұрын
Guess that app needs some improvement still. Those te or teidän jne can be single person but more old formal way of talking that almost nobody uses anymore. Or of course they can be plural. Also translation can be quite difficult as sometimes it might be multiple subjects or just one. Eg. What do you like to play could be Mitä sinä haluat pelata or Mitä te haluatte pelata where the latter can also mean just one person.
@Silveirias
@Silveirias 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of covering up the words, you can turn the suggested words off so it just asks you to type the sentence. :) It might be nicer on the desktop version, though, since it's a lot of typing. I think the Finnish course doesn't really have tips yet, but for some other languages the tips section is a lot better on the desktop compared to the mobile version.
@SapientiaLeonis
@SapientiaLeonis 3 жыл бұрын
Accent-wise Finnish is easy, always throw it on the first syllable: HELsinki, TAlo, TUristi, etc. Your pronunciation is very good, btw!
@kokakolakulli
@kokakolakulli 3 жыл бұрын
U need MORE subscribers like really u are so underrated..
@limeparticle
@limeparticle 3 жыл бұрын
You said there are five little children in the plant :)
@naniyodesu
@naniyodesu 3 жыл бұрын
Should be "minkä kokoinen"; it's two words and it's never written together like "minkäkokoinen", the app is wrong there. Kasvissa on viisi pientä lasta = There are five small children in the plant Kasvissa on viisi pientä lastaa = There are five small spatulas in the plant
@sarairina
@sarairina 3 жыл бұрын
I had a streak of like 70 days on Duolingo (I studied Danish and improved my Korean and German) but it made me so stressed to do it every single day that I had to delete it. I understood Danish a little before I started studying it, but now I can actually understand a little bit more and even talk if I just had the confidence. Duolingo is an okay app to learn languages with, but it's only good with popular languages. Danish didn't have the same things German did. And it annoyed me that I couldn't get explanations to some of the grammar. It was a good app to get some understanding in languages though, so it wasn't a total waste of time. haha
@Colaman112
@Colaman112 3 жыл бұрын
If you use the website, you have an option to write the sentences instead of being given the words.
@Wixel50
@Wixel50 3 жыл бұрын
"Lasta" alone is Spatula. But when you say "Viisi lasta" it means five children
@TheRawrnstuff
@TheRawrnstuff 3 жыл бұрын
Nominative singular case, a spatula = Lasta Finnish partitive case, a child/children = Lasta
@Wixel50
@Wixel50 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRawrnstuff Yes
@eryana9437
@eryana9437 3 жыл бұрын
I lost it at google's explanation of lörtsy.
@heputes6859
@heputes6859 3 жыл бұрын
im from finnish and i understand every word in this video
@masisarsu
@masisarsu 3 жыл бұрын
I think alot finnish people like kind of these vids.Koska nämä oikeasti mukavaa katsotavaa :D
@ilonalindroos788
@ilonalindroos788 3 жыл бұрын
Hauskoja kysymyksiä ja lauseita 😃
@stepha20178
@stepha20178 3 жыл бұрын
lol! I’m still on lesson 1. I know how to say “Sinä olet todella kaunis Velho!” 😭😂
@KayzeeFPS
@KayzeeFPS 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed you are a really beautiful wizard 😂
@miamirabel
@miamirabel 3 жыл бұрын
Lasta is plural of lapsi. 😂 Kaksi lasta = two children. Well done, Dave! 🏆
@eerokaartokangas
@eerokaartokangas 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's the partitive plural.
@ida8112
@ida8112 3 жыл бұрын
Eero Kaartokangas the singular partitive, lasta kiusataan
@eliastoukka
@eliastoukka 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you had a great birthday
@davecad
@davecad 3 жыл бұрын
I did! Thank you!
@juholeskela6306
@juholeskela6306 3 жыл бұрын
14:43 Dave became Finn!
@liisalaitinen89
@liisalaitinen89 3 жыл бұрын
👏 very good! 🥳
@harripalomaki8796
@harripalomaki8796 3 жыл бұрын
It's easy to remember "harmaa" if you associate it with a Gin Long Drink. Also, if you want to sound cool when ordering said beverage, just say "Harmaa" to the bartender. ("Harmaa jäillä" if you want ice.)
@meikusje
@meikusje 3 жыл бұрын
I think the desktop version of Duolingo allows you to get more info on grammar and such!
@o0KAPPi0o
@o0KAPPi0o 3 жыл бұрын
These kind of apps are not the best for Finnish sentence structure, since in many cases there's a bit of leeway in which way the words are said.
@account5035
@account5035 3 жыл бұрын
There should be a button somewhere, where u could see the grammar that is being used in the challenges (:
@zoeblake2941
@zoeblake2941 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! I think you are doing well! Fun fact: I can speak, understand and write Finnish.
@rrrreidlin
@rrrreidlin 3 жыл бұрын
i mean yeah, te/teille is plural too, but i think in the context of the duolingo sentences it's usually meant to be the extra polite way to address someone; teitittelyä.
@tonibufu6103
@tonibufu6103 3 жыл бұрын
12:43 You can say many Finnish sentences and words, with many different ways, so you don't have to select like one correct way, to say things.
@tonibufu6103
@tonibufu6103 3 жыл бұрын
16:20 Jos tollaisen kasvin näkisin, en pystyisi olemaan nauramatta :D . But Dave, i must say that, those that you got right by luck, can be luck, or you did remember to see some of those words before, and that's why you guessed right ones. And you do really nicely already, i'm proud of you ^^'
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