Is Oilers lack of scoring during 5-on-5 play concerning?

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Күн бұрын

How do you feel about Arturs Silovs in this series? How do you feel about Stuart Skinner in this series? How concerning is the Oilers lack of scoring 5-on-5? How impressed are you with Elias Lindholm’s play? TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button joins Jay Onrait to share his thoughts.

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@1983skeletor
@1983skeletor 24 күн бұрын
Button looks pissed his pick is getting out goalied, zero depth and out coached. Canucks fans knew they had the edge here. This isn't surprising
@G_Ellis606
@G_Ellis606 24 күн бұрын
Yup...he's an idiot
@omfg322
@omfg322 24 күн бұрын
It took 3 missed 5min majors, canucks own dman sabotaging them and their 3rd string goalie to win their first game against the canucks all season
@barstar888
@barstar888 24 күн бұрын
lol, it’s only been 3 games. You can tell Canucks fans aren’t used to being in the playoffs. Calm down, all things are possible with McDavid
@strawpaladin213
@strawpaladin213 24 күн бұрын
I would not say being outshot 94-51 in the series is feeling all that great actually. I'm cheering for the Canucks and I predicted them to win in seven, but if they continue this trend They will lose the series. This could easily be a 3-0 Edmonton or Vancouver lead in the series, That's just how close this series has been so far.
@xboxrules8472
@xboxrules8472 24 күн бұрын
Remember the flames record when button was their GM? Hahahahahaha!
@neostar63
@neostar63 24 күн бұрын
No one should be surprised. Their schtick has always been riding McDrai and hanging on for dear life. Two generational future hall of famers does not make a championship lineup.
@williamford9564
@williamford9564 24 күн бұрын
3:58: Says it all here.
@PacificNorthwest777
@PacificNorthwest777 24 күн бұрын
Boom !
@Nickh4929
@Nickh4929 24 күн бұрын
Where are all the "oilers in 5" people at now??😂😂😂
@billytessio6326
@billytessio6326 24 күн бұрын
Gone. The "Oilers in 6" people are next on the chopping block.
@T.D.-nurf0820
@T.D.-nurf0820 24 күн бұрын
dEdmonton coiLers 🤣
@chucknorris172
@chucknorris172 24 күн бұрын
God Vancouver fans are the worst breed and I'm not even an oiler fan. Stfu already guys, you haven't won anything yet.
@shawn9297
@shawn9297 24 күн бұрын
I'm still here lol 😆
@T.D.-nurf0820
@T.D.-nurf0820 24 күн бұрын
@@shawn9297 L
@unplugged123
@unplugged123 24 күн бұрын
maybe its not "lack of depth scoring". maybe its the canucks playing excellent 5v5
@janituokko3811
@janituokko3811 24 күн бұрын
its still lack of depth scoring whether whatever the reason is for that. An u cant win in playoffs if only first line and pp gets the goals
@pomerlain8924
@pomerlain8924 24 күн бұрын
The Oilers lack of depth scoring has been an issue well before this series. They've only scored 2 goals in these playoffs where neither McDavid or Draisaitl were on the ice. That's a problem. And it's been a problem the past few years. Vegas exposed their lack of scoring depth last year. Once they learned to not give the Oilers PPs, they exposed them as a one dimensional team and manhandled them 5-on-5.
@strawpaladin213
@strawpaladin213 24 күн бұрын
@@pomerlain8924 This is more about Vancouver in 5v5 and Goaltending. Edmonton's depth players are playing well but just can't put it in the net. Nuge has 10 points and is a +/- of zero so far in the playoff primarily shutting down the Opposing team. Those are good numbers! But the depth dries up after that... especially when you look at the +/-. just about every other Oiler is a liability on the ice outside of the Top 6 point getters. You are right that Vancouver is Exposing the lack of depth though! You have to Credit Vancouver for recognizing the weaknesses in the oilers and exploiting those weaknesses. They've really hit Ceci and Nurse hard on the stats sheet so far this series.
@cackoocacho1629
@cackoocacho1629 24 күн бұрын
That's relative. If the canucks are playing great 5 on 5, then obviously edmonton is lacking great 5 on 5. Two different ways of saying the same thing.
@JBrix86
@JBrix86 24 күн бұрын
It's a "lack of playing the depth" too
@kevins862
@kevins862 24 күн бұрын
Button looks flabbergasted at the success of the nux thus far
@lindsayseal8504
@lindsayseal8504 24 күн бұрын
Pretty sure Button is flabbergasted by motion sensor lights
@xboxrules8472
@xboxrules8472 24 күн бұрын
button picked Canucks over nashville.
@0oCyrilo0
@0oCyrilo0 24 күн бұрын
I was so excited when Canucks got Lindholm, glad it’s starting to show!
@LFC-mr6yb
@LFC-mr6yb 24 күн бұрын
Oilers are just the Leafs but instead their stars show up sometimes. Stars carry them, no defense, no goalie.
@disinformationworld9378
@disinformationworld9378 24 күн бұрын
The difference is what division they play in. Weak. Western conference was much worse this year too.
@CdnElJefe
@CdnElJefe 24 күн бұрын
Their stars always show up in the playoffs. They are tied for 3rd fastest to 90 playoff points in NHL history. They both have a higher points per game in the playoffs than the regular season which is super rare, not even Wayne or Mario did that.
@PacificNorthwest777
@PacificNorthwest777 24 күн бұрын
This is so funny. Analysts were saying Van was gonna get steamrolled. Van fans all knew we have far better D and goaltending, and that our offence was dramatically underestimated. Not to mention just the brutal grind Van brings to the table. More pain for Edmonton fans to come.
@Eleutherios1
@Eleutherios1 24 күн бұрын
The better team is winning.... they are now 6-1 vs edmonton this season.
@royymartyy
@royymartyy 24 күн бұрын
97 had almost 30min TOI and still didn’t score 😂 can’t rely on him, Hymen or Drai when you’re triple shifting them …
@carletonrutherford1799
@carletonrutherford1799 24 күн бұрын
Both him and Draisaitl played almost 30 minutes. Keep it up, LOL! Even if they some how managed to win the series they will be so gassed by the time they play the Avalanche or Stars, that they will have nothing left.
@coryjohn4057
@coryjohn4057 24 күн бұрын
That's because he is exhausted.
@nawtty8864
@nawtty8864 24 күн бұрын
What an absolute plug Button is.
@lindsayseal8504
@lindsayseal8504 24 күн бұрын
He waived Marty St Louis, traded Giguere in order to protect Fred Brathwaite and traded Marc Savard for a guy that never played a day in the league. Worst G.M. in Flames history
@sktoh4469
@sktoh4469 24 күн бұрын
What's a plug?
@nawtty8864
@nawtty8864 24 күн бұрын
@@sktoh4469 Button. He’s an idiot
@silent0snipe4
@silent0snipe4 24 күн бұрын
Leafs of the west here we go again
@Ace96x10
@Ace96x10 24 күн бұрын
Oilers are in the second round, leafs don't make it that far.
@bryanwouters443
@bryanwouters443 24 күн бұрын
@@Ace96x10 ya because the oliers get gifted LA kings every fist round 🤣🤣
@strawpaladin213
@strawpaladin213 24 күн бұрын
@@bryanwouters443 I doubt Vancouver would be doing well against LA. Oilers just match up well against them, just like Boston matches up well against Toronto. The Leafs would Fair much better against florida First round then Boston even though Florida matches up better against Boston. Every team has certain playstyles they do well against and others they do not... Vancouver is a tough out for Edmonton because of the way Vancouver plays the game. The best teams find a way to Match up well against everybody over a 7 game series...
@xboxrules8472
@xboxrules8472 24 күн бұрын
@@strawpaladin213 Yeah right, Demko or Silovs against Talbot, c'mon......
@strawpaladin213
@strawpaladin213 24 күн бұрын
@@xboxrules8472 Vancouver has a terrible record against LA . LA is 6-1-3 in their past 10 vs Vancouver
@ShaneDavid-is7te
@ShaneDavid-is7te 24 күн бұрын
What happened to the sweep 23 outta 24 tsn and sportsnet analysts predicted, saying an easy series win for the soilers
@strawpaladin213
@strawpaladin213 24 күн бұрын
Let's be honest... They pay WAY too much attention to statistics. The series should be 2-1 Oilers statistically. They Paid too much attention to the predictive models saying Vancouver has almost no chance. Anybody who watched any of the games vs the Oilers this season would know the matchup is wrought with problems for the Oilers however. The Goaltending edge and Defense goes heavily to the Canucks, and The forwards are edge to Oilers only on the First line...
@headintheclouds6935
@headintheclouds6935 24 күн бұрын
Saying that after the oilers got regularly season swept was pure delusion
@anthonyheinrichs8322
@anthonyheinrichs8322 24 күн бұрын
It's like pulling teeth to get these guys to say anything actually positive about the Canucks. It's always excuses for why the Canucks are winning
@FlyingBirdman
@FlyingBirdman 23 күн бұрын
Because the series should be 3-0 oilers. Canucks luck will run out
@kingbud4966
@kingbud4966 23 күн бұрын
​@FlyingBirdman 3-0 for Vancouver. They don't even have demko right now lol
@zigfield723
@zigfield723 24 күн бұрын
Bottom line the Oilers are lacking, even if they win this series, no way chance are they a Stanley Cup championship team.
@harmangill7509
@harmangill7509 24 күн бұрын
Not even close.
@twifightsparkill
@twifightsparkill 24 күн бұрын
Craig Button is an icon. I'm quietly delighted that he's a media consultant because I adore his intelligence and knowledge? Also he's easy on my old horse eyes. GO CANUCKS GO! 🤟🦄✨♥️
@ShawnLangford
@ShawnLangford 24 күн бұрын
What in the world?
@seal9454
@seal9454 24 күн бұрын
​@@ShawnLangford LOL I had the same reaction.
@nobuddy2012
@nobuddy2012 24 күн бұрын
If the Canucks could stay out of the penalty box, it would be almost over.
@eonk5703
@eonk5703 24 күн бұрын
i kept telling myself to not watch the game, so i succumbed to just watching an iphone app score board watching when oils scored a goal with 2 minutes left, each remaining second felt like eternity to me. whoa we won! so happy!!!
@Ace96x10
@Ace96x10 24 күн бұрын
The Van Goalie has brutally outplayed Skinner. Oilers 1 line is enough to win with even half decent goaltending vs Van, but they aren't getting even that from Skinner.
@omfg322
@omfg322 24 күн бұрын
They keep playing their 1st line for half the game fatigue will set in eventually. You could also say skinner being played every game is wearing him out.
@tylerdurden4006
@tylerdurden4006 24 күн бұрын
Does Edmonton even get shots when they are not on the powerplay?
@HamptonHelly
@HamptonHelly 24 күн бұрын
Skinner should make a coupe of saves but fuck do the oilers leave him out to dry all time I’m looking at blocked shots, hits, faceoffs the canucks always finish their checks
@Wafflenobs
@Wafflenobs 24 күн бұрын
Oilers have always been nothing but powerplay merchants and a 2 player team. They have no depth. They have no goaltending. The Canucks would sweep these clowns if Demko was healthy.
@seal9454
@seal9454 24 күн бұрын
100%. We probably would have been up 3-0 in the series if it wasn't for Ian Cole's unfortunate own-goal in OT in game 2.
@rdeh1678
@rdeh1678 24 күн бұрын
Buttons is the the cnn reporter of tsn very biased angry lil man
@UnhingedCanadian
@UnhingedCanadian 24 күн бұрын
I’m just gonna say this. The oilers haven’t had a great goalie since Dwayne Roloson since then they’ve been through a ton of goalies and you know who’s been there the whole time Dustin Schwartz their goalie coach when does he get fired??? Our goalie coach clearly sucks at his job but he’s friends with the owners so he stays. Old boys club in Edmonton still.
@StreetFig
@StreetFig 23 күн бұрын
I hope they keep going after McDiver in game 4. Keep grinding him into the dirt and close out the series in 5
@tylerthomas709
@tylerthomas709 24 күн бұрын
LETS GO NUCKS
@denizdowntown6385
@denizdowntown6385 24 күн бұрын
cope harder Button.. he looks like he wants to cry
@ML-my8qq
@ML-my8qq 24 күн бұрын
Silovs is bailing his team out. Skinner is not.
@cackoocacho1629
@cackoocacho1629 24 күн бұрын
What kind of stupid title is that? Lack of 5 on 5 scoring is concerning for any team in any regard. "Is the lack of competent goaltending 5 on 5, concerning for Team X?" 😆 Never change, TSN. You guys are the most hilarious in the business. Also, never learn what audio mixing is either. It's always a lottery with what exponent of volume boost will be required for your videos. 🍻
@Xyy2387
@Xyy2387 24 күн бұрын
Button is livid. LOL. No shit, top heavy with goalie vs. balanced with team defense. You should've bet on the latter.
@fishleaf18
@fishleaf18 24 күн бұрын
Button said he had zero concern with the Leafs' offense going into the playoffs....
@alexandermacdougall7873
@alexandermacdougall7873 24 күн бұрын
No way this canuck team loses 3 of the next 4. Two (if it goes seven) are in Vancouver. Canucks are getting in Edmonton's head. They're winning with their (supposed) top two goalies out. Demko due back almost any time. Oilers are all but toast.
@shinuku77
@shinuku77 24 күн бұрын
Lets be real here, silovs is not our #3 just because he was third string. Theirs a reason he is in net and not De Smithe. At this point even if Demko gets passed to play you probably leave Silovs in unless you want to give him a break, especially if Demko isn't 100%
@IanStrain23328
@IanStrain23328 24 күн бұрын
@@shinuku77 Yeah my dad and I were talking about this during second intermission, I dont think we even play Demko until we know for sure hes 100% with the way Silovs has been playing. Its his crease until Tocc deems necessary that he isnt the guy anymore.
@Joseph-T543
@Joseph-T543 24 күн бұрын
@@shinuku77 a 3rd string is a 3rd string. He hasn't even played 10 NHL games before being put in to feed the wolves 🐺
@shinuku77
@shinuku77 24 күн бұрын
@@Joseph-T543 yeah he WAS a third string goalie, now he's our star goalie that's putting the team on his back
@Joseph-T543
@Joseph-T543 24 күн бұрын
@@shinuku77 you don't need to correct other people on what a 3rd string goalie means. He is 23. He has never played much hockey in a single season. But now he's in the spotlight. His is still a distant 3rd string goalie. Rick Tocchet didn't know what he would do when Demko and DeSmith were both out with injuries.
@user-pl8ij9et9w
@user-pl8ij9et9w 24 күн бұрын
More you put the kid in more confidence
@ekdnlt
@ekdnlt 24 күн бұрын
Sensing a strong bias for Edmonton. I guess he is entitled to his opinion.
@Odysseus38
@Odysseus38 24 күн бұрын
Craig button....the canadian darren pang....biggest joke in the NHL reporter circle..
@roguetrooper6205
@roguetrooper6205 24 күн бұрын
Same old story with the Oilers going on for years, like the Maple Leafs and their continuing saga in the East.
@andreisison9256
@andreisison9256 24 күн бұрын
Short Answer: Yes Long Answer: Hell Yes
@terrycorbeil7941
@terrycorbeil7941 24 күн бұрын
It should be !! Only time they score is on a power play maybe
@unknownshopper4024
@unknownshopper4024 24 күн бұрын
I don’t trust skinner and I never have , Mcdri are always hiding the mistakes by scoring
@alexc8294
@alexc8294 24 күн бұрын
It's obvious these guys at TSN are very pissed 😢 All they talk about is why and how Edmonton should win. There is nothing good about the other team that keeps beating them.
@lukewould4982
@lukewould4982 24 күн бұрын
Oilers have one line, that’s it.
@operadad
@operadad 24 күн бұрын
Oilers can not beat the Canucks without Kelly Sutherland
@BenjaminDaCunha-ys8ty
@BenjaminDaCunha-ys8ty 24 күн бұрын
Don’t bother watching the video the answer is yes.
@mvgamer9637
@mvgamer9637 24 күн бұрын
It's no secret this goes back to last year's playoffs. The way to beat Edmonton is to play them five on five
@beingian
@beingian 23 күн бұрын
Why doesn’t TSN make Canucks content?
@LarryNg-mx8qz
@LarryNg-mx8qz 24 күн бұрын
what is Button's record of teams playing?.. why is he so animated that oilers are not performing... yet when we talks about the Canucks he seems low key
@timw4369
@timw4369 24 күн бұрын
Lack of scoring by anyone other then McDavid and draistl
@pushnook
@pushnook 24 күн бұрын
Edmonton Defense has been scoring, other lines besides McDavids needs to step up, not impressed with other forward lines.
@Joseph-T543
@Joseph-T543 24 күн бұрын
Did you watch Mattias Ekholm in this series? 👀 🙈
@pushnook
@pushnook 23 күн бұрын
Other lines are still sleeping, Edmonton is now a one line team with a struggling goal tender, may have to break the super line up and unite them only on power plays.
@GarthCamp
@GarthCamp 24 күн бұрын
Yes
@Dub23zero
@Dub23zero 24 күн бұрын
Form out of the window? Silovs no form? How much did he lose?
@stevelouis4664
@stevelouis4664 24 күн бұрын
Trade them all - Leaf fans
@ozzydo2314
@ozzydo2314 24 күн бұрын
Oilers had 1 high danger chance.
@chrisnelson2770
@chrisnelson2770 24 күн бұрын
Canucks would be 3-0 with Demko healthy
@brucecarter6205
@brucecarter6205 24 күн бұрын
Shilovs is the only reason that it’s not 3-0 for the Oilers.🤦‍♂️
@chrisnelson2770
@chrisnelson2770 24 күн бұрын
@@brucecarter6205 yet imagine if we had our Vezina calibre goaltender 🤔. Pretty pathetic on the Oilers part
@brucecarter6205
@brucecarter6205 24 күн бұрын
@@chrisnelson2770 no, getting badly outshot, outplayed, and dominated by a team with 1 good line is embarrassing. Imagine what this series would look like if the Canucks had Skinner.🤣
@chrisnelson2770
@chrisnelson2770 24 күн бұрын
@@brucecarter6205 badly out shot? Sure. Badly out played? Nah. Oilers can't even beat our AHL goalie without the help from tank commander Ian Cole 😂. Canucks have been winning 1 goal games in the third period all season, because we can actually play team defense. Why would I imagine what we'd look like with Skinner? We'd never sign him. 🤔 You should be crying tears of joy that Demko isn't in net and you've got an actual chance of winning
@brucecarter6205
@brucecarter6205 23 күн бұрын
@@chrisnelson2770 with Demko in net the Oilers would be up 3-0. As I said, Silovs is the ONLY reason the series sits at 2-1 for the Canucks.
@disinformationworld9378
@disinformationworld9378 24 күн бұрын
Yeah take away the PP from PP merchants what do you expect would happen?
@SpaceLord_MtherFcker420
@SpaceLord_MtherFcker420 24 күн бұрын
button wants cry
@mickeymikkelson5337
@mickeymikkelson5337 24 күн бұрын
settle down Craig... he must have money on the oilers
@canada1966
@canada1966 24 күн бұрын
It’s okay mcdavid will play 50 mins next game 😂
@jesscasalla224
@jesscasalla224 24 күн бұрын
buttons looks miserable again . as a matter of fact all of TSN's panel always looks miserable whenever the oilers lose.. sad
@BobsUruncle-dl7cs
@BobsUruncle-dl7cs 24 күн бұрын
Craig Button does not have the Systems Analysis experience @ any level to tell you whats happeneing in this series beyond the eye-test.....the Canucks are Outcoaching the Oilers badly, and the Oiler System was deconstructed last year completely but not improved....there is no reason to expect a better result than last year ....Oilers ownership gambled that Skinner would grow and evolve into a Playoff Goalie and that was all they were missing...to expect that after last years meltdown of record proportions was skethchy @ best.
@8888ate
@8888ate 24 күн бұрын
1 line won't cut it.
@johnnymacrae1069
@johnnymacrae1069 24 күн бұрын
Not sure Craig knows what the "rope-a-dope" strategy entails...
@JBrix86
@JBrix86 24 күн бұрын
How TF are they going to score if they don't play?
@bradenahmet343
@bradenahmet343 24 күн бұрын
The oilers need to be better , coaching , 2,3 & 4th lines …. The only people doing well is Boosh, Ekholm , Hyman , Drai and McD… every1 else sucks . Put pickard in net , stop playing the Russian 5 for 30min a game , we need lots of players to step up
@MrPchui
@MrPchui 23 күн бұрын
he know shxt. oiler is leaf 2.0 or worst after 6 yrs top 3 draft pick still empty hands since 2010 and 5 plus top 10
@atrealdino6667
@atrealdino6667 24 күн бұрын
KO HOE 🍄
@Joseph-T543
@Joseph-T543 24 күн бұрын
Hey Button! Cry moreeee
@tectonictv8274
@tectonictv8274 23 күн бұрын
Button is a complete hack
@harmangill7509
@harmangill7509 24 күн бұрын
I cant see either of these teams beating the winner of DAL/COL
@alexandermacdougall7873
@alexandermacdougall7873 24 күн бұрын
A lot of people didn't see Vancouver beating Nashville,and even more saw Edmonton practically sweeping Vancouver, yet here we are
@hammatymee
@hammatymee 24 күн бұрын
Yeah vancouver is too underrated they know how to get it done on both sides of the ice.
@harmangill7509
@harmangill7509 24 күн бұрын
@alexandermacdougall7873 I said canucks oilers was gunna go 7 and it's a coin flip. Oilers have game breakers at forward in their top 6, canucks have a good team throughout the roster. But Dallas and Collorado have both these things.
@GreenBeanGreenBean
@GreenBeanGreenBean 24 күн бұрын
@@harmangill7509 Canucks were the president trophy leaders for over half the season..... they can ball with Dallas/Colorado no problem.
@pomerlain8924
@pomerlain8924 24 күн бұрын
​@@GreenBeanGreenBeanThey've only beaten those 2 teams, combined, 1 time this season.
@NVPasutto
@NVPasutto 24 күн бұрын
Put it this way, the oilers have won one game against this team all year…. And it came from Ian Cole fucking up on all four goals in game 1 and then the own goal in game 2 😂. Otherwise they have looked like absolute shit 😂.
@NVPasutto
@NVPasutto 24 күн бұрын
The spoilers literally play one line over and over lol…. Can’t win championships like that. And Skinner is not a number one goalie not even close. Oilers should check into Latvian beer league goalies, I hear they’re pretty good.
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