TST Industries - Suzuki GSX-8S vs Suzuki GSX-8R: Are They The Same?

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In this video we break down the differences and similarities of Suzuki's newest models, the GSX8S and GSX-8R. Is one a copy of the other? Is the GSX-8R really a sportbike? Stay tuned to find out and leave your thoughts in the comments below!
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@Remymoto 5 ай бұрын

Like you mentioned, the ergos make it really attractive for those of us who can't really enjoy a traditional sport bike but want that style. It gives folks who want a sport bike but need something closer to naked bike ergos a great option.

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Yes the stock ergos are more relaxed than traditional supersports. When building a race bike out of an OE machine all of the controls get replaced anyway so I think Suzuki made the right choice to just make the stock bike a bit more upright. Serves a larger demopgraphic and cuts cost of the stock machine. -BR

@graysonboles3781 4 ай бұрын

You perfectly stated how I feel about it. I'm young and all, but for the type of riding I do right now, I want the fun and looks of a sport bike with the comfort and ergonomics of a naked bike.

@englishsteel-nz6im 5 ай бұрын

Bike responds really well to a tune and full exhaust, somebody noted +12 HP. Nice bump over the R7 gets you into RS660 territory + won't break like the RS660 lol

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

We've seen some pretty impressive numbers so far for this platform and are just getting started! We've seen 90+ with minimal modifications. A thinner head gasket, some race gas, and some internal components can bump this to the 100+ mark. - Mark

@ganuvien 5 ай бұрын

Just more reliable than the 660 😉

@Frankmanu 5 ай бұрын

Mivv tiene el escape SR1 que aporta +11Nm 🤯, +4,40HP y 3,30kg menos. Solo con este cambio.

@180FiftyFive 5 ай бұрын

its funny that no one mentions torque on the MT07/R7 is still noticeably higher than all the bikes in this category, not just peak but across the entire rev range. Better than RS660, SV650, CBR650, Ninja 650... With the lower weight and suspension/chassis geometry you feel that higher torque more as well

@englishsteel-nz6im 5 ай бұрын

@@180FiftyFive false, look at GSX8 engine ECU flashes. Superior power and torque thru range to 660 til 9k.

@thejaysun Ай бұрын

I love my ninja 650 because of the looks and seating position. I would love just a tad more power tho. I think the 8r is gonna be my next bike. Great video, thanks!

@tubejorrit Ай бұрын

Will the higher handlebars from the S fit the R without touching the fairing?

@riomatrix6156 4 ай бұрын

I know in the vid you guys said you've tried a lot of different exhausts to test for interchangeability. Was wondering if the razor tip full exhaust from Toce was one of them and if it did fit on the 8r?

@damon1957ful 5 ай бұрын

Like the new 8r but after 4000 miles on my 8s and still love it looks brill, both will sell well

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Cheers to many more miles and countless smiles! - Mark

@motocookie7545 4 ай бұрын

How much weight have you been able to remove off the 8S? Is getting to 420lbs feasible and reasonable??

@toni8407 5 ай бұрын

thanks for the comparison, I prefer fairing without a doubt hehe

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

I also prefer the faired version. We just have to figure out how to get clipons onto the fork now. As it is the bodywork will not let all the controls fit there. We have race bodywork coming. We will see after that. -BR

@thereviewer6517 5 ай бұрын

It makes a lot of sense to opt for the 8R over the 8S. 8R is essentially a naked with the benefits of a fully faired, specially the the front suspension setup and handling.

@donderstorm1845 5 ай бұрын

i like the 8S more, but i prefer the smaller look and the riding position more on nakeds than sports.

@martinrea8548 3 ай бұрын

That's the way I look at things too. Would it be fair to call the 8R a sports tourer?

@thereviewer6517 3 ай бұрын

@@martinrea8548 bang on! Akin to the GSX-S1000F series

@hisride 5 ай бұрын

Love the 8S. Would be cool if they did an inline 3 GSX-9S/10S. That would work well as a supersport as well

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

That would be an awesome offering for them to introduce and it could fit in with the MT-09 and Z900 market. - Mark

@aaronbryan5095 5 ай бұрын

A 9S would be sick 👌

@modshiftmotion 4 ай бұрын

Would love to give the 8R a spin.

@JESUSISCALLINGYOU7 5 ай бұрын

Great comparison. Imagine the R in the S blue/white color scheme. I think the blue subframe and wheels looks so distinctive. 😏

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Luckily we can swap the wheels and subframe pretty easily but the fairings, not so much haha. -Mark

@JESUSISCALLINGYOU7 5 ай бұрын

@@TSTindustries 😁

@chazlyle41 4 ай бұрын

White paint and bronze wheels like a VFR800 would look great on the R.

@JESUSISCALLINGYOU7 4 ай бұрын

@@chazlyle41 Bronze? That color looks more like gold to me. Still, if it's that stock color what you mean, I agree with you it would look great on a white R. 😎

@chazlyle41 4 ай бұрын

@@JESUSISCALLINGYOU7 The 2024 Suzuki GSX-S1000GT bronze wheels will do :D

@deanskirrow 5 ай бұрын

Do you have a UK distributor? I’d like to get a rear set adjustment bracket.

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Our UK Dealer is CregTech although he does not yet stock these components. You can view our full dealer list here: tstindustries.com/dealers.html - TST

@duaner9392 5 ай бұрын

PLEASE. Make a harness for the front turn signals of a 2021 Honda cb1000r. I can’t find anyone who has them! It’s a 2 pin and I’d like to install my RIZOMA Legerra. The harness they recommend does not work

@paulconnell1309 5 ай бұрын

I ride an 8S and love it. The 8R looks amazing and I am keen to look at a swap. Keen to understand how to squeeze another 10 bhp out of it. Also adjustable cartridges would be great!

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

With our TST V1 intake system, a full exhaust, and our tune we are seeing about a 10hp increase at the peak, with all other areas north of 5500rpm vastly improved also. Cartridges are coming but i have a suspicion that the R model will be focused on first. We were asked to send the S forks to our partners but they then halted that to see what the R forks are going to be like -BR

@paulconnell1309 5 ай бұрын

@@TSTindustries Thanks.

@donaldwiggins7740 5 ай бұрын

I had a gsxr 600, gsxr 750, then a gsxs 1000 naked, (didn't care for it) then got the gsxs 1000GT (which I have now and love it) id of been a customer of the 8r personally. I think it is a nice bike for what it is.

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

That last sentence is extremely important and something everyone should keep in mind! - Mark

@jeffh278 5 ай бұрын

Ready to see them in TwinsCup

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Same! -TST

@juanjosesisco6901 5 ай бұрын

I'm really interested on buying that blue silver option of the 8R but I'm 6'3 and idk if it would be confortable any tall riders have try it out or someone that give some feed back... i need to drive 4 hours to try the closest one so yeah

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Here is a fun idea for you... Fly down to Daytona Beach for bike week. Suzuki will have both the S and the R models available for test ride, along with the rest of their product lineup. You can accomplish the goal of test riding the bike, then take in Daytona 200 and the other MotoAmerica classes that will be racing. Check out Superscross, connect with a bunch of like minded people, and perhaps attend some motorcycle parties on Main St. Whatcha think? -BR

@user-zv8sc4hq5u 5 ай бұрын

Is the sound of the Akrapovic enough if you remove the db killer to go down the street?

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

What do you mean by "enough"? If you're asking if this system is loud with the dB killer removed, yes it is. - Mark

@chrissunde1104 5 ай бұрын

I've heard that the "S" sports kyb front forks while the "R" has big piston shows. Is this true?

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Per the Suzuki website, the 8R has SHOWA front forks and the 8S seems to have KYB. We do plan on taking both to the track and riding them back to back to tell if the change in suspension makes a noticeable difference - Mark

@jridenour31 5 ай бұрын

@TSTindustries I hope it's not a drastic difference. I'll be kicking myself if it's considerably better and I should have waited for the 8R.

@ronaldthomas9396 Ай бұрын

I like the tail light mod on the 8 r you didn't mention it!

@TSTindustries Ай бұрын

It was just a little easter egg we wanted to sneak in at that time. We're getting VERY close to launching that product so be sure to sign-up for our email updates or follow us on social media.

@coleyounger5882 Ай бұрын

Are the Handlebars on the GSX 8s interchangeable with the GSX 8r. The bars on my GSX 8s is the one thing I don't care for because they just feel awkward.

@TSTindustries Ай бұрын

Are you wanting to put the clip-ons from the R on the S? If so, you would need the upper triple from the R model.

@coleyounger5882 Ай бұрын

@@TSTindustries Thx guys, I'll have to look into something different.

@blipco5 5 ай бұрын

Nice review. Just facts. 👍

@jesusamaroreyes4269 5 ай бұрын

Taking in consideration that GSXR1000 have about ~6 years do you think they will release a GSX-10R 👀? I want a gixxer but I’m so afraid that two months later the came up with something new.

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Sorry i don't have knowledge on that subject. Suzuki doesn't share that info within the industry until they are ready. -BR

@subzero-ku2wx 5 ай бұрын

"The diameter of the outer fork tubes is different." Size difference? Different brand? Would be helpful for a video like this.

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

The forks are both different brand, and different outer diameter at bottom clamp, as well as different internals. Even If the numbers are provided, what makes this actually helpful?

@bonse1 3 ай бұрын

As an 8S owner the 8R release hurt my soul.

@christopheraguilera1688 12 күн бұрын

Literally bro

@fafu85 2 ай бұрын

Can the 8s swap to clip on as well? Need the 8s to be a bit aggressive

@TSTindustries 2 ай бұрын

It can be you would need 3 inch risers if you mount below the upper triple. A rider on a Facebook Group had posted their 8S with clip-ons.

@fafu85 2 ай бұрын

@@TSTindustries what if replace with the 8r triple clamp?

@TSTindustries 2 ай бұрын

@@fafu85 you would still need risers to avoid issues with clearance.

@fafu85 2 ай бұрын

@@TSTindustries hurmm please rnd 1 clipon for gsx8s 🥲🥲🥲

@tubejorrit Ай бұрын

I'm curious on the other way around, an R with the handlebars from the S, together with a double bubble windscreen would make it a very fun bike for me.

@tuckernorris5753 4 ай бұрын

Loving my 8r do you know if they are capable of being GP swapped from what i can find it looks like you just rotate the control rod end 180 degrees and it should be good but this is my first sport bike and first brand new bike so im not keen on making random edits to the bike without reputable information and a guide

@TSTindustries 4 ай бұрын

You cannot accomplish that easily. It will require aftermarket rearsets with the brake lever on them having the rod attachment behind the pivot point, or a turnbuckle system. -BR

@csposir 5 ай бұрын

So few of the 4cyl biased people actually possess the skill sets that would in actuality mean anything on the day to day use case, or even on track. But that doesn’t seem to stem the flow of naysaying on Suzuki’s GSX8’s.

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

I love controversy over bikes. It keeps the subject in the forefront of people's attention. Let them keep going. We can squash all that at the track. -BR

@Mr_Glenn 5 ай бұрын

@@TSTindustriesI hate it when people try to push their opinion on others. "4 cylinders or go home, 83hp is never enough power!" I own a 4 cyl right now but I drove an 8R today. I actually love the 8R! Live and let live.

@Mikaeel84 Ай бұрын

👍👍

@daveyt4802 5 ай бұрын

I had a K5 SV1000S. My favorite bike, ever. 80k miles on it.

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Mileage that the majority of riders never get to see! - Mark

@thoaidinhanh9387 5 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@aaronbryan5095 5 ай бұрын

Just my opinion but Yamaha's MT-07 and CP2 engine are getting a bit long in the tooth, yet it doesn't seem like they're getting significantly updated anytime soon. Oh well, guess we're about to see a bunch of 8Rs trample over R7s, Suzuki bros are gonna love it.

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Honestly, I'm just as shocked that Yamaha hasn't redesigned or improved the MT-07 or the CP2. Why not make something good even better? Either way, Suzuki is primed to take the lead if it proves to be a strong competitor on the track and if sales for the street continue to support it. - Mark

@thomasolson8417 5 ай бұрын

R7 was never that great to begin with. It looks cool but underperforms.

@ganuvien 5 ай бұрын

Yamaha has really had no competition until Honda/Suzukis new P-twins. Now they might finally take it seriously and improve them somehow. It's still a proven reliable platform though which is great for it.

@LAiderMotorcycle 5 ай бұрын

AWESOME SUZUKI No.1

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@christosswc 4 ай бұрын

"Supersport". What does the GSX8R have to do with Supersport and why should it, it's not even trying or pretending to be one. It's a Sports bike, not Supersports, a description of road legal race bikes. It has a fairing so it has to rev to 16k rpm or it's not a true Supersports, well, thankfully it does not and it's not. And that's why it's going to sell like crazy, because most riders would love themselves a Sports bike they can ride fast and enjoy and not break either their neck or their back, instead of a crazed maniac that feels completely out of it's element unless it's going flat out on perfect roads at insane/suicidal speeds.

@fdaniiel Ай бұрын

Cb650r=Cbr650r

@jonathanalfred9847 5 ай бұрын

You talk like an AI computer voice.

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

At least when the robot takeover happens, I can blend in fairly well apparently! 😅 -Mark

@hookmaster1109 5 ай бұрын

Both bikes are lame, Brand new low tech low performance overweight budget pos.

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

This is an interesting opinion for sure. Same tech as most modern liter bikes, under $10k, sure they’re a little heavy but also capable of 90+ hp for a sub-1000cc twin. Curious on what bikes you find not lame. -Mark

@Mr_Glenn 5 ай бұрын

@@TSTindustriesThis. It doesn't have corner ABS or tilt sensors and cruise control, but that's about all you're missing out on. 83hp can be a lot of fun. It's a street sport, not a super sport.

@user-zv8sc4hq5u 5 ай бұрын

Is the sound of the Akrapovic enough if you remove the db killer to go down the street?

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

"Enough" is a subjective term so I can't really answer in short. I can give you my perspective though. I am 45 years old and have handled enough noise for three lifetimes. I tend to like bikes less lound nowadays. When I do track days or races I now use earplugs. For me the Akra has a nice tone but I would like it a bit less loud. If you ask one of those guys that want all eyes on them at all times you will probably hear that it's a bit quiet. Toce sent us a system of theirs for testing. If you want loud that is the one to go with. -BR

@user-zv8sc4hq5u 5 ай бұрын

@@TSTindustries okay so do you think arrow without db killer it’s loud right? Because I’m confused in choosing between Akra and arrow but toce I think it’s too much

@TSTindustries 5 ай бұрын

@@user-zv8sc4hq5uyea i think Arrow without dB killer os too loud for me. The Akra is probably the best sound wise for me, but that is not how I really choose exhausts. We run them all on the dyno and then i pick the one that accomplishes my goals best.