IM SORRY FOR CHEWING NEXT TIME ILL EAT BEFORE 😅

Griffin takes ONE bite and immediately apologizes for eating...then you got Eric SMACKING the whole video 😂😂😂😂

You should continue to add more cars to this list and build a massive tier list and you can make it a series!

IS THAT 4TOUGE

I think it's so cool that between the two of you guys you've driven/owned/been best friends with someone who's owned 99% of the list edit on rewatch: 13:03 bros are in sync

You guys forgot the most underrated Touge car, the Toyota MR-S! (Search up Techno Pro Spirits MRS) it’s on par with the RX7 & AE86. It’s the lightest, most agile and balanced MR2 out of the 3, and should be in the Top 5. Also, don’t sleep on those late 90’s Evos. That AYC makes them monsters in corners.

I like that you're trying out new things with the channel.

This was good guys, appreciate the vid. Been in the market for a 90's-00's touge project and this has been very helpful.

driving across the US rn and just watched this whole video without realizing how long it was keep up the good vids

These videos are great. You two makes fun and great convos!

love these vids, feels like we’re just chilling with you guys ❤️

Ive been waiting for this list !!! love u guys

u guys are an inspiration. love the variety of videos.

I recently took my evo on the touge and it performed super well high grip, no body roll at all, and fast as hell

Best JDM couple on KZfaq right here

We all know the geo metro is the goat for touge

TSUCHI UPLOADED LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO Griffin too LETS GO, and another tier list, W

love these typa videos

13:04 the in sinc "yeah soo" was so perfect

I love the commentary videos, please make more lists!!!!!

PLEASE do more tier list and talking videos. They are so entertaining and easy. I’ve watched the cars you’ve owned tier list video multiple times already because it’s so funny and interesting

This type of content is great, keep it up 🧌

More vids like this please!!!!! Any video with pickle is goated. 😤😭

Honestly pretty valid list when considering price

These types of videos are pretty entertaining

Evo should be at least in A imo because of the fact that it has factory rolling antilag mixed with short gears makes it a pretty fast car in low speed corners especially on those type of roads

I m new here but I alr watched sum of ur videos love u keep up the good work

yeeeeeeeeeee this some nice long content

Here at Tail of the Dragon, I’ve been blessed with some of the best touge driving experiences in North America…Don’t forget the legendary series 2 Mazda RX8 R3 (from experience), Nissan 300zx, Focus RS, Porsche 911, and (believe it or not) the Ford Thunderbird Supercoupe!

Nice list! i'm so happy the EG Civic and a Miata are S tier 😁👌

I have an NC3 miata and I'm so happy to see the NB and ND here. Big fender boi represent

need a part 2 to this with more cars

As an EG civic hatch owner i’m honoured with the ranking xD I’m also a student rn working part time trying to build it for touge

Glad to see the S2000 and Miata placed in S. Both cars are great, been enjoying my AP2 and doing ride alongs in a few Miatas I think they are excellent cars for this environment.

As an (ap1) s2000 owner I’m glad it’s S-tier ❤

the base z comes with an open diff which for drifting you’ll have to use a lot of proper weight transfer to get you sliding smoothly. for touge w the base it’s somewhat dangerous if you’re just starting out. like tsuchi said their is a lot of under steer w the open diff. that can be your life. with someone who has an open diff trust me spend your money right get the track edition or one of the civics, it’s a good starter car that will get you comfortable on the touge. you can “technically” save money by buying the base and getting an aftermarket lsd or hr lsd. for drifting you can weld it but if you’re just starting out i recommend the lsd

lov these guys

3rd time watching this vid and still im loving it

It was a pleasure hearing you eat, smack and talk at the same time

love the vid format. Evo 5's are dope touge cars. Im sure youve seen the topfoil touge evo on yt. evo 5's are little weapons. Light, responsive and love mods

WE LOVE 4.TOUGE

I really liked this video and its my first time watching....I didnt mind you guys eating during. I woukd like to know what you guys thinks of the AE86 overall how much more does an EJ1 civic weigh than the EG with a JDMB18B non VTEC. Its hard to get the actual weight since the car didnt come with that engine.

solid video boys watched all 51 minutes

43:05 I just found your channel and its motivated me to go out and find some twisty roads and run them! I didn't know that there were roads like that so close by its crazy. 43:05 I own one of these Imprezas and its a dream to drive. I own a green base model coupe from '97 and its got one of subarus most reliable engines the NA 2.2l boxer! The base model is 2600lbs and AWD, i've got some period correct JDM STI seats and the JDM carbon fiber STI strut bars as well. 04 WRX wheels (that are super light at 16.?lbs) and rear sway bar. Granted its only maybe got 135HP but with some sticky tires its crazy how quckly you can take corners. They are now worth 4x more than they did 5 years ago and they all rot out at the rear quarter panel so finding a good one is very difficult. i my slightly biased opinion its a A tier.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS TSUCHI LOVES THE EG HATCHES LESGOOOOOOOOOO

That thumbnail 😍😍😍

loved the vid

Eric bro why did u eat that so sus at 7:09 my brother. Good video.

Lets goooooo it's a good day!

Newer wrx gotta be s tier. The older models had a lot of problems that got weeded out but the handles if you know how to work it is amazing

S+: Honda Fit/Jazz

Had a k24/20 em1, ep3 type r brakes, 17x8 235 ad08r, coilovers and all adjustable arms, absolute monster of a touge car, put the hurt on 360whp evos, sti and golf r, bmw m3 regularly on the touge and track

I used to do mountain runs back in arizona in my fully done 2002 wrx and after meets on Fridays I’d cruise out there and there was a group of Miata’s, it’s funny that you said that, they rip stupidly, uphill I’d pull, downhill, id have to let them by, one of them was turboed and he was untouchable

Man. Iv been building and running my 2021 Corolla se e210 sedan. I got lucky and got the nightshade. But I’m building it for grip and it’s insane man. People really don’t believe me till I show them some footage of me hitting my local road. Like it really is an insane grip car man fr fr

Gotta run this back with surprising/unexpected cars

Every time I go shopping I gotta drive my mom's 23 Crosstrek with a 6 speed manual, and I have a super windy road I drive to get to Walmart. I learned manual on the car at 16, but it may be slow in the straights but through the corners, it's QUICK. 6 speed manual, AWD, short wheel base, Limited slip differentials, decent suspension stock, 187hp from an N/A flat 4 engine that distributes the weight well and only weighting 3200ish lbs, it's quick around the corners and it's modern too, most modern cars will tear up a mountain road, not saying that the old stuff is bad but like this new stuff is good. I'm still gonna buy that AE86 down the road though

Chill video but bro was smacking his lips on those chips the whole video lmao

As a z owner I will say they just take some time to figure out, a big squared tire setup and proper spring rates and swaybars will go a LONG way, mine is a de with oem brembos, upgraded pads and fluid I have 0 issues braking and have never come accross fade the brembos are a great braking setup, running a 265-285 stagger tire and a big front swaybar with stock rear, car seems to handle amazing. They can be good but they take money and time to get perfect

honestly a Eric and Griffin podcast would be lit

this is fire imma get a eg now

Need to see more euro and American cars get built for twisty driving, it would really add some variety to the culture. The aesthetics are just a little off unfortunately.

Y’all both gotta do a performance touge tier list

1st gen Imprezas are dope. People STI swap them all the time. They usually go for 4k-5k for okay ones and 5k-8k for really good ones. I love my Impreza coupe it’s fun as fuck and they look good too.

W tier list

Im so happy for you two coming out. Love the romance between you ❤️❤️🥰

miss my eg hatch sold it before covid wasnt into cars anymore.... some how during covid i found this channel and then bought an miata nd... guess i got back into cars again

Can confirm gc8's are rockets, mine makes 400hp on low boost and 500hp on high, and with the proper setup they oversteer unlike most awd cars, I love them and would never get rid of mine

He is CHOMPING.

Thought i'd mention it because was surprised you didn't know, its been done for all gens with fabrication, but the SW20 has a practically plug and play at this point swap for 2GR V6 that leave it lighter and lower CoG then the stock Turbo setup with who knows how good (Camry, various Lexus etc) type reliability. So far as snap oversteer, really really bad on 91-92, very hard to fix unless you did some changes to pickup points, the 93-95+ are much more tame stock, and have a trick where if you lower the rear suspension -1 inch vs the front and respring the car for a bit stiffer front it completely ceases to exist, if you want to flatten ride height can mismatch tire diameter front to rear to level it again. That style setup took over national autocross scene for like a decade or more, been in one and its like a grip car that transitions into very gentle drifting with ease, most likable thing ever honestly. But thats not stock and if you guys didn't know any of that doubt most buyers would unless they really dig. I'd be interested where you might place the ZZW30 frogmobile as fans of Hot Motoring.

%30 car talking %69 nammm tasty chips... %1 touge

35:08 that man knew what he was doing 🤣

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I'd be hella interested to know y'alls opinion on the GT vs GR for the 86, bc I've heard the GR has notably better performance with the FA24. Obv 230hp isn't anything crazy, but still significant on the straight aways on a mountain compared to the GT.

tell us your thoughts on the rsx, ek coupe and the evo 8-10 pls

1:30 in and the eating is already insane. Who eats like that?! Close your mouth bro, flies are gonna get in.😂

Would have loved to see a focus st on that list

A podcast would be 🔥🔥🔥

Guys i know that is not avaible in the US, but the GR Yaris is a beast for Touge runs

I touge a voloster n, it rips, save 8k form the ctr and put it into the car, put a front and rear sway bar in it, add rear chassie bracing and that tourqe vectoring from that electronic slip diff hits different. Will say the north America ones dont come with the big brake kit the Korean ones have but you can import or get the forge... oh babe... and with a toon you can make 310 with no bolt-ons its is slept on.

A little late, im rewatching stuff, that Evo V is S tier. I’m an evo guy and they are 200% better than any adjacent Subaru STI or Impreza of some sort.

Great list to find a car to build 🫡

I know this was for jdm cars but 99-04 mustangs are pretty light, make a lot of low end torque, and can fit 305s without rolling the fenders. You need a lot of suspension work but mustang parts are so cheap. You can do the entire suspension for sub $1500. That’s shocks, struts, sway bars, a bump steer kit, and caster camber plates. Add slotted rotors and better pads and the breaks are more than enough. I’m definitely biased but I run mine all the time and it is way faster than my zl1 1le on the touge

When you make another video like this. You should account in a Mazda Rx8. A great chasis, double a arm front, multilink suspension in the rear, 50/50 weight distribution. Great interior, descent trunk space. Can be had for real cheap and for some big money. Yeah yeah the all internet haters about the renesis motor. You can make a few upgrades to the motor and it's solid. I personally have a 2006 Rx8 with a rebuilt motor and I daily it. Such a great car, plus it revs to 9500 rpm🤘

The r32 overshadowing the z32 makes me weep

Banger video but needs more pickle

Definitely not biased, but wish I’d see some more Mazdaspeed on the channel (come to Orlando boys)

I’m biased for sure, but I think the 86 deserved S. You knocked it down for reliability, but after 2013 year, they were SOOO reliable. This video was dope and you should do more like this

Yes the 86 is overplayed I do agree as an 86 owner. But I'm glad they still got an A LOL they really do handle really nice.

Nice List! But no Lotus Elise?

Need to see the Veloster N ranked

W vid

You should also take into consideration potential/ cost of modification. BRZ costs about 8k to turbo properly, an EJ takes $1000 to add 100hp.

In Germany, the e36 chassis is just like the civic in state, they are so fast in nurburgring. Just through a s50b32 (euro m3 engine) in it and tires and brakes and it just flys lol

good motivation to fix my clapped out 97 civic 😎

Hey Tsuchi, wanted to ask where would you rank the ae86? I own one and I’m wanting to get into touge - I’ve done the basics of suspension (modified strut casings) and rebuilding the engine (16v bigport itbs, made around 150 to the wheels on the dyno), still planning on experimenting with different parts and other settings to make it “perfect”. Just wondering how it holds up against the others

Would be interesting to see the Porsche 996, Boxster, and 718 in here. Maybe a Golf would be cool too

They have a really good connection 13:04

oeefff the middleparts 🤣

I have a grip 200sx S13 CA18det, and it is a killer touge car, here in europe. I'd put it in class S. It has power, (270hp) 1200kg, and 50/50 weight balance. King of touge

Feel like my Mazda 3 is decent weighs about 3k pounds and makes decent low end torque with a decently long power band . Love ripping it frontside up the 9burg definitely need wheels & suspension to make it a better downhill car and more seat time to get better uphill