Also you know the old saying "people on the internet will treat fictional characters as if they real people and then talk about real people as if they were fictional and then get mad at you for knowing the difference"

Back then the Internet was a break from reality. Now reality is a break from the Internet.

*"The greatest thing about the internet is that everyone has a voice. The worst thing about the internet is that everyone has a voice."* - The Click

"Know the line of reality and fiction" "If you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one" these 2 rules are what always keeping me humble at all times.

the internet, the place where "Ignore stuff you don't like" is literally impossible for some people.

My mom used to always warn me to never interact with random people online, as they could be a degenerate insane weirdo. And upon the day I turned 18 and started actually exploring the internet(I had only used it to watch horror games on KZfaq up until that point), I can safely say... ... She was right all along. I have never felt prouder to be some slightly functional shut-in that very rarely interacts with people, especially those online.

“The internet has made y’all really comfortable on saying things that you would get you punched for in reality”

The steven universe artist thing is insane because like, people draw women with bigger chests or chubbier stomachs than normal. Drawing characters with alternate body types is CONSTANT

Man the brain rot is a global epidemic a avengers level treath

The gender conflict in Korea is so serious that they are looking at the birth rate of 0.6

I miss my 2008 Internet, if you remembered 3 simple ruls: 1) everyone's a jackass 2) they're most likely trolling so don't take anything seriously and 3) this is not real life - you could have a lot of fun with it.

I remember getting hated and called a literal psychopath for simply enjoying the undertale genocide route they said some shit like the game was a personality test and I'm a psychopath and should get help simply because of liking the genocide route in undertale

“The internet is cooked” We’ve been past that point for a long, long time now. There isn’t even a spec of dust left for common decency to be found in some places.

Gotta love the limbus company community is praying for Maxor to play limbus because they use limbus music while the blue archive community has a meltdown

The Jocat controversy is straight-up evil for what those people did. He went back on Twitter and started doing art, and yet people still hate him and threaten him. All for basically saying "I love all women."

The JoCat situation was truly upsetting and the primary reason why I dipped from Twitter. At any given moment, anything you say can offend someone even if its not meant to be offensive. He was especially loved in the Final Fantasy XIV community though I didn't learn about the situation until late 2023. There were obviously Twitter freaks going around in videos talking about the situation justifying the doxxing and threats by saying "well, he played Hogwarts Legacy." My brother in christ, he's allowed to enjoy the world of Harry Potter while not liking J.K. Rowling

Schools really need to start teaching children how the internet works, what to watch out for and especially to ALWAYS double-check information

Truly I’m terrified for the future of kids growing in this internet climate. Like for people who are older like us it’s easier to tell when something is taken out of context and just plainly wrong, but for kids most of the time it’s just not the case and they’re quick to follow whichever group is the loudest, which sadly leads to controversies like the Zamii or the Scaramouche one.

as someone who grew up with internet, I hate internet culture, especially fandoms. I am so disappointed that so many people become the worst version of themselves over completely irrelevant stuff because of the way the internet have been for the past decade or two thank you for this video I genually hope that it'll help some people

I feel like this may be the best video I've seen at expressing why the internet tends to give me anxiety nowadays. Like, I feel like I'm constantly in a state of wondering whether any random thing I say or do will be used as "proof" that I do or believe things I actually find quite horrible and because of that I feel more closed off and paranoid than I used to. Autism and Anxiety really ain't doin me any favors in this world. Also thank you for taking the time to say that not everyone in a fandom is toxic. I've seen a lot of people say stuff like "well this person likes this thing, so they must be an asshole", which ironically contributes to the problems I have with the internet.

The scaramouche drama was so much bullshit. To get upset over a fictional character, i will never understand what the fuck goes through peoples mind over shit like that.

Yep… Welcome to the Internet

Basically people get crazy mad over dumb or basic nothings on the internet how far we have fallen and please do not be that type of person

Another thing people forget a lot nowa days is that two people can be wrong. It’s something that no one seems to remember that just cause one person is wrong doesn’t mean who they are arguing with is right.

the vellmori situation sucks but theres one shining light in the end - shes been posting art on her instagram and has opened up a patreon where she takes commissions, which is refreshing to see she didnt just vanish off the face of the internet because of what happened

as someone who only watched tsunul's pm videos, he spends spend 30% of the time insulting don, 20% simping for faust and 50% simping for sinclair, it doesn't take a fucking genius to realize that our boy ain't straight

You know the worst? This isn’t new, this type of behavior existed *WELL* before the internet. I don’t believe that sort of stuff happened with thing has small has now and maybe quite it wasn’t has frequent, but there’s a lot of it. For a example, some priest got kick out of his village because he was way too much obsessed with and wanted to burn. He then wrote a book that would become one of the main reasons behind the big witch hunting event in Europe. It may not has started with something quite has insignificant then modern internet stuff, but it also had WAY bigger consequences than everything that has been described in this video. (My source is a video by Overly Sarcastic protection about Wherewolf, which is more trustworthy then the name might imply. An interesting video btw)

"How can you hate me, when you don't even know me?" - Daryl Davis I feel like, if anything, the state of the Internet is reflective of the state of people in general. They're so miserably lonely that they have to cope with virtual stuff, spread their misery through hate and even then it's just for a small moment of glory where they can go to sleep at night without being aware of how their actions hurt others. Like, the real problem is that these people who start all this terrible shit get to sleep at night without the guilt, or compunction of their actions. How can they hate someone when they don't even know them? What colour do they like? What furniture do they prefer? What's their favourite choice of animal, the mainstream cat? The diligent dog? Some off-road choices like otters? Which games stay in their head as the most memorable? They know nothing, and only ever presume everything. That is sad, and really these phirestarters should be punished for it.

What happened to Jocat makes me so sad man...

The funny thing about the JoCat situation is, its based on an already existing song, just with the genders swapped. I remember seeing a shit load of memes with it, and noone ever got hate for it, as far as i know.

This is genuinely such a good video, and I hope a lot more people get to see it. It's so easy to forget that the most toxic parts of the internet are really small and you did a good job at getting that through. It's nice to hear somebody talk about things rationally when so much of the things people say online is overly eccentric just because that's just... the internet now. But I really appreciate this video.

I was born in 2006 so I didn't get to experience the true "old" internet that much, but even back in ~2016 the internet was so much better. Yes there was a lot of drama but it never got anywhere near the level of today. There's also the fact that the internet has been replacing the real world more and more, and I think it started around 2016 too, people were just having fun online before, and now everything is a mine field...

Tsunul: BTW I'm bisexual Me: We know sweetie.

It's unfortunate that this is now the modern internet that we have to deal with. People freaking out over the most nonchalant things. People getting wronged and hated over the smallest things. I can't really describe it without sounding like an idiot but i wish people were less sensitive over some topics that brings little to no harm for people other than your own belief that it is a bad thing when it never was. I wish one day we can just chill out for once and not overreact every single day. But that's a tall order especially for most people nowadays.

Finally someone talked about this issues thank you. I want to add another topic to this list of horrible situations. Brad Taste In Music, a music review youtuber, very recently got a unjustified copyright strike that removes all of his monetization. And his whole livelihood is from youtube. He posted a video about this issue and got very emotional in the video. In the comments section of that video Melanie Martinez fans are making fun of him and saying things like "Thats what you get for badmouthing melanie" or "womp womp" and similar things only because he criticized her in the past. A person just lost their entire livelihood and people are mocking them only because they criticized their favorite artist.

idk why but i feel like i really needed this video. world's growing more and more extreme, its quite the depressing sight. but the final note really touched my heart. I think I will try a little harder tomorrow. thanks man

After Limbus swimsuit incident I understood that just gacha community in general has the most unhinged fanbase. Not saying that they all like that, but, I would argue that precentage of degenerates in gacha community is above all other gaming communities.

As someone on the internet, I cannot stress this enough This place is nuts

The worst part of online toxicity. Is when you stand against them... it's to stoop down to their level. It's easy to BECOME toxic online. I have had a realization of it sort of. And your perfect ~hot voice~ keeping it cool while telling people to go out.. get help.. instead of threatening them back. Really makes me wanna be better about holding my self back better and not stoop down to the toxicity more often than i am ashamed to accept i have stooped to.

I’m one of those people who doesn’t like penguinz0, but not because of anything he did, his content just doesn’t appeal to me, and I just don’t like how everyone inserts his name into everything like he’s this messianic figure. To be clear, I don’t hate him, the person. I don’t know him. I don’t want to know him. I just don’t like that everyone wants to hear what he thinks and he’s just… a guy on the internet. So you know what I do? I just don’t watch his channel. If people talk about him, I skip or tune it out. It’s really not that hard lol imagine doxing someone because you don’t like them

If I’m being honest, sometimes I feel just tired of all the controversies and I just wanna hug people. I felt horrible for Dino Dave after everything he got, despite not agreeing with almost everything he said in his infamous review video, I felt my heart sink seeing the whole vellmori situation unfold. I also had no idea of extent to which you got harassement from the community for such small things. I just… wanna hug every single one of you. As childish as it may sound. I am a grown ass man now with a car to pay and a full-time job to get soon after I end my four-year college degree, yet I feel saddened by people of all ages fighting for meaningless “victories”. Before I end this goalless text drawn by my still beating child’s heart, I want to say that I feel happy that despite all of the negativity, we can still be positive among each other in return. In a world where I, as a new young adult with still much promise, see people fight and tear each other’s throats, seeing genuinely good people uphold messages of kindness and sincerity, truly, helps me realize that despite the depression that follows me still, I can keep going for myself and those around me. Isn’t those kind of stories the reason why many of us love the stories that project moon give us? Saying what flows freely to my mind, for once not veiled by me and my younger peers’s cynical view of the world is immensely more valuable and liberating than any arguing has ever done to me. This comment had no real purpose but to express my unfiltered (and very disorganized thoughts brought upon by a serious case of my adhd) gratitude for people like you, and bravo for this great video.

Crazy how a lot of this can be summarized as "Me when fictional character:"

Seriously dude you're so underrated man. Im not even saw this vids as just another ramble. I've learned so much and after I finish the vids. I'm actually relieved of what I am as a human being. Thank you MrTsunul. Much love from your kind viewer

Haha, it's so funny, that Meursalt's book is so close to life situations, can't wait for his canto to hit hard.

Honestly a really great video on controversies and the butterfly effect of how some discontent among communities can cause a ridiculous amount of outrage. Looking at you, Limbus Summer situation. Its a shame that in the end of the day it was completely useless and that people still wage online conflicts over something that has ended over almost a year ago. Goes to show how deplorable some people can be even if you think highly of the community as people will latch onto anything to prove a point on the internet that has no merit at all and only serves to harm the community and the people they love(d). Overall excellent summary of the Vellmori situation, i'll probably be redirecting my video on the situation that's months old to this one to avoid further confusion. Glad to have been able to help with my snippets of info considering I never mustered up the energy to make a part 2, cause man it was so mentally draining at the time

Honestly having a proper after action report of the whole Vellmori thing is good to have. I had no idea just how much mistranslation there was - I'd figured there were at least a few third parties translating it faithfully, but if they were they were being drowned out.

"Live and let live" has been what I've been living after for years. Doesn't work as good when so many seem to be the complete opposite though. It just kinda baffles me when people are so concerned about what other people do.

Really nice video, it reminded me so many bad things that I'm not sure I wanted to remember, but one cannot just forget people getting threatened with death just because an internet dweller woke up from the bad side of the bed. Really enjoyed the Vellmori part since it finally answered a couple of doubts I still had. Also, as always, your choices for the background music is always top tier, even thought I had this unpleasant feeling fro the topics not only I still managed to watch it until the end (usually I'm not capable of watching this kind of videos because the build up of hate for the dark side of twitter is really hard to contain), but I also paused my mirror dungeon run to focus on what you said. Nice job

Humanity will never leave tribalism, people love to divide instead of understanding 😓😓😓

Normally I would think of a witty remark, or something to joke about but man.. This is a message that so many people need to see, I really appreciate your calm and positive demeanor. I wish you the best, and I look foward to the new content you will make. You’ve brightened my view on humanity knowing that someone shares the same live and let live that I try so desperately to hold onto in this (for lack of better words) shitstorm. Thank you.

To be fair I can understand the reluctance towards the new version of Bridget. I saw it unfold when it happened. Bridget wasn't new and had an established identity. Suddely there were contradicting information and things didn't make sense. In this case it's just a video game. I saw during the beginning of the pandemic in germany how contradicting informaiton can lead to a lot of confusion and chaos. While I don't condone the hate and violence, even if it's from the creator you should be able to say it's dumb idea regardless from modern politics.

Thank you so much for doing this video, its a gush of fresh air to see some common sense in this apocalypse we call the internet. Specially the PM part, I knew something was off but just didnt find the energy to disprove all the slander and misinformation, hell I've had friends doubt the game and some others judge me for deciding to continue playing. So thank you, it feels vindicating to see it all so well put together, not even as a gloat but rather as a recovery of faith in morals and intelligence.

it's honestly sickening how a skin for a character and another character *LITERALLY HOLDING A FCUKING AMPULE THE "WRONG WAY"* has almost escalated into a full-on RIOT

Genuinely, the Vellmori situation is really depressing given how it was blown out of proportion from just misinformation alone started by a campaign of people who had nothing else to do but to complain something that was ultimately a non-issue (And seriously, who the fuck would wear a swimsuit in a fucking garbage DUMP? Seriously, they must've had illiteracy to the extreme, truly.) Sure, Ishmael did at the time get a lot of identities at the time, and as a day one player I can totally understand the frustration at the time, but for these idiots to be literally sifting through Vellmori's stuff is just creepy as hell and physically threatening Project Moon's workers, was just insane. Could Project Moon have more clear with their statements? Definitely. Was all of this drama necessary? Hell no.

Then someone will probably go "DoN't WoRrY, jUsT lOoK aT tHe PoSiTiVeS!" My brother in Christ, THERE ARE NO POSITIVES

Something I see nobody talking about lately is that the new meta for KZfaqrs is ONLY shitting on stuff, like saying modern horror is bad, or saying Minecraft's boring, or saying games in general have become boring, it's all negative...

How ironic that a big part of the vellmori incident was because of an error in translation. Or another words project Moon fans not being able to read.

2014 Tumblr was fucking wild man...

What's extra funny about the Zamii incident was that Rose was clearly pregnant in her debut scene, yet people were still quick to play the fatphobia card when all her subsequent appearances show that she's nowhere that big.

the project moon segment literally sounds like it'd be a modern shakespeare tragedy genuinely

Ah yep, this video is indeed gonna be a fun one But in all seriousness this is does need to be talked about cause man is it depressing to see the internet to be the way that it is

Cookie run fandom on twitter be like💀

I just wanted to tell you that I very very appreciate this video I am still a kid and I also fall victim to most of these misinformations and you help clear them for me. And most importantly I been following your channel for a while now and I've been enjoying you a lot even if it just for Project Moon contents mostly, and this video also expand my view on you as a person, more than just an entertainer. And I view you as a very mature moral standpoint on things. But that all i wanted to say, thanks you for making this video.

Yeah, Genshin's problems with the community is so vast and so random. You can get threatened for liking one character, disliking one character, not caring too much about a character's skin color, caring too much about a character's skin color, being the voice actor/actress for a character who is a villain, or has unlikeable traits, drawing a character in any art style, having a heterosexual ship, having a homosexual ship, and the list goes on and on. The problems even bleed into Honkai Star Rail. The toxic people here care too much about the pixels on the screen rather than the actual people in real life.

I really like how you handled the Vellmori situation, and the massive bundle of missinfo mixed with with half truths mixed with bold faced lies made it a nightmare vortex to figure out a semi coherent timeline of events..

People often associate the word "dystopia" with some higher power stomping on the common folk by making life absolutely miserable. It's steadily becoming one of those words that are often missused. In some cases, people even consider having to go to a low-paying 9-5 shift at Walmart to be "dystopian". Don't get me wrong, I can see how miserable it is to work so hard and be paid so little, I just think that that situation doesn't do the word "dystopia" justice. Now, the constant fear from knowing that at any moment, a faceless mob of strangers can ruin your life over something insiginificant you did or said AND never be held accountable for it? THAT'S a dystopia. And the worst part is, it's not some shadow government nor a mega-corporate entity, it's just a mob of people who have to much time on their hands. Basically what I'm saying is, it's truly horrific how extreme and radicalized people can get when they feel like their actions have no consequences.

I decided to step away from Limbus a few weeks into the summer event controversy, as I was just very upset with the situation, the fanbase, and the company themselves as like many people the only information I had (like the news article or the unofficial translations) painted them in a pretty awful light. Even after I came back months later I didn't know the full story, just that there were clear contradictions with that initial info that had made me lose faith in PM and their own version of events. Thanks for taking the time to document the situation as best as you could in this video, there was stuff in here I didn't even know about like the Gyeonggi or PMUA harassing the company. I'm still a bit frustrated with PM for their poor communication about the situation, but knowing more I can see that they were under quite a bit more stress than I realized and probably being very cautious with their statements.

Real Life: Wow this place sucks!!! Internet: Wow this place sucks!!!

Honestly Tsunul hit the nail on the head, the internet (through the power of anonymity) has become an echo chamber of hate (mostly social media) which is honestly quite sad, if only the internet could just go back to being a chill relax place again without people riling each other up for funsies because they get a kick out of it

Its been said before, but people have gotten too comfortable with saying offensive or insulting remarks on the internet without the fear of getting decked in the face. Most of the things I see people spout on Twitter just for shits and giggles is so downright insulting and embarrassing that I would want avoid being seen in public if I ever said these things to another human being in person. People have no shame now.

I'd really wish you knew what really was happening in that Bridget situation. The non-fans were harassing and sending death threats to the developers of the game and game character designer. It was so horrible.

I just wanna say this video is fantastic, it really does highlight just how unhinged and trigger happy people online can be, that's putting it extremely simply, I'm eager to see more of your work. As for Project Moon, I've been in this fandom for less than a year and Limbus has done a lot for me, making videos on the game and interacting with the community has been some of the most welcoming i've felt. I'm lucky not to have met the more toxic side of the fandom. Limbus has been the most fun i've had with art for a while and i'm eager to see what the game and the community has in store. P.S. Sinclair enjoyer solidarity.

I love that my way to get out of the drama of vellmori was seeing the tweet that Mili made , it was amazing seeing Cassie beating out the allegations.

“Ya boy is bisexual.” Ya boy is as straight as y=x^3… We could tell, Tsunul. No one is as big as a fan of Hong Lu and Sinclair without being at least a little fruity.

Massive respect to you for putting in your own experience, tsunul. Limbus is what got me in to your channel, and i appreciate you branching out. Even if i probably won't watch your other videos on games like reverse 1999 or arknights (as i dont play either of those games) but ill stick around for pm videos or videos being general like this. Love your content and also your taste in music. (Banger bgm in this video especially) (Also your voice is pretty cool :>)

Live your lonhform content. Came for the quality vids, happily surprised how good it all is, especially the AK iceberg.

I'm glad to find someone who can share the worldview of "You can do whatever as long as you're not hurting anyone else." If everyone thought that way, the amount of stupid conflicts that would be avoided is incredible. My experience with the PM fandom has been mixed. A while back i would've said i would just continue to enjoy the content on my own. But recently i met a little group that did me a lot of good creatively, i started writing, making artistic stuff. And all because we enjoy something that is great. All fandoms are complicated, we can only hope and cling to the good parts of it all.

The Jocat situation really annoys me. I wasn't a fan of his content but my friend was and I watched a few videos. The video about girls was genuinely extremely wholesome and at best you can say it's "Cringe" however the fact he got doxxed and harasseed for it was genuinely so horrible it and cases like Valmori, Critical and others genuinely annoys me. Imagine being a adult and being tricked so easily. It's the same story every time. Something small blown out of proportion and then people lie or twist the narrative to make it worse. This video is very well done and perfectly explores how actually easy it is to lie on the internet and get away with it. It's like that scene in dilbert. Only that was a cartoon dog. Not real life people. Edit: fixed a couple typos

Man what an amazing video, thank you for this Tsunul. Your content is amazing, thank you for being part of PM community.

This is the first video I ever saw of yours and I subscribed to your channel because of it. The last few sentences you say at the end of this video ALONE are worthy of a like. For me, with the way my brain is wired, I will admit, I almost got sucked into a few "hate campaigns" but thankfully didn't, after just getting off the internet for more than 30 minutes. But I am still doing my best to try to be logical and calm BEFORE I get sucked into any of those kinds of B.S. which is, as far as I can tell right now, all I CAN do. Like you said, adding more hate to the internet just does not help anyone at all.

TSUNUL WITH THE FOOD THANK YOU SIR‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

my head hurt, i just wish that social media didn't exist. at this point it's doing more harm than good.

Damn, I've been living under a rock. Thank you for bringing the news, I appreciate your content and don't let the odd folks get to you. I enjoy this informative content a lot, it's great.

Honestly, on the part about Bridget, I was genuinely confused why she would be trans right after learning she left her hometown to become a bounty hunter for the main purpose of proving her masculinity. I honestly cannot give less shit about the fact she's trans, I don't care and I have almost no knowledge of guilty gears since it doesn't interime that much, but that whole ordeal still got me confused. Maybe I'm missing out on something, but it felt like her veing trans just defeated the entire point she was trying to make and the reason she became a bounty hunter is now just a dud and her story makes little sense to me. But, like I said, I'm not invested in guilty gears, so honestly, it's not a real issue to me.

Its insane that most of these end up boiling down to people hating fictional ships or characters. What a joke

You're Content's are Great Tsunul, Sorry That some Fandom's are Starting to get On Your Nerves, Thanks for Sharing your Thoughts on the More Loud-side of Project Moon Fan's.

A bit bittersweet this is my first video I've found of yours, considering the heavier topics discussed- but nonetheless I'm glad I found such an entertaining creator with such a lovely personality- best of luck in whichever gacha rolls you throw the dice at~

Watched the whole thing, great video covering internet crap especially the Vellmori part since I got into PM stuff just start of April. So much misinformation that just makes me feel how unfortunate and shit the internet is at times. Felt pretty "that's that and this is this" from this video while I'm already depressed today.

Not the first day tbh Scaramouche is like one of my favourite characters (even have a plush irl of him), I always just find the voicelines funny, the scaracat situation is just ridiculous to say the least The fact that so many people can't separate fiction and reality is so dangerous, could and already did harm real people and in this case, an innocent cat

Thanks for the shoutout Daddy Tsunul UwO Now the ad revenue can let me buy the Shanks DLC for Pirate Warriors

1. I love you(Non-para socially) 2. THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THAT DAMN CONTROVERSY!! Having [Moon Channel] being the only video that was up to date on it, was infuriating to say the least, especially with him leaving out some crucial information, and admitting of having twisted the truth in previous videos. And while I would like to have the link to the G.D, I’m guessing you won’t be sharing it until it’s 100% correct, if at all. 3. I just want you know that the majority of PM’s fandom will fight tooth and nail to keep you around, if not for the fact you know a lot of the C.C in the community, then for the entertainment of watching you eat your own words(Like with Fraudgilius). While I won’t be able to watch your streams(time constraints), I know whatever video you put out will be entertaining... ...even if I’m late like this comment, until then, I hope you find what you wish for, see ya!

It’s kinda crazy how the least shocking piece of information from the video is Tsunul coming out as bisexual. (congrats though even if we’re not surprised) The entire pm situation was still unclear to me (and thankfully so) so I thought waiting a bit after all the misinformation died down and caught up but I still didn’t know about the definitely not aligned groups trying to slander pm was just so wild to hear about for the first time. Truly a maybe the real internet was the misinformation and drama we had along the way. Peak non-fiction here Tsunul

The thumbnail is what summoned me. I was like; "Is that Ishmael from Limbus Company?"

Gotta say, i never thought that such a down to earth and reality checking video, would come from a funny limbus man. A month late, but this was really well put. Hope you're having a good one.

That's why i love the Blue Archive fandom, gatekeeping the tourists out no matter what happens

I have to thank you for this video. The Vellmori situation really did affect me mentally very badly, during the time of the announcement of the korean text i saw it in a friend discord server, i couldnt believe it that a company i loved so much had done such a thing, my literal first reaction to that was "wait did Vellmori quit or something?"then i saw all the massive ammounts of comments and tweets discussing about how she was fired and shit, i didnt choose to believe that simply cause Project moon honestly had changed my entire life and made my carrier and dream of being an artist actually possible and the year i spent drawing bongbong was life changing to me. During the drama i remained skeptical about if everything going on was actually true or not, choosing to remain possitive of Project moon somehow managing to do the right thing. During that time it was so painful to remain hopeful, to still having trust that Project moon would not fuck it up, it was so painful seeing friends and artists i looked upon just quit drawing project moon, it was so despairing seeing friends go from chatting with them about the project moon universe happily and chill to constant very long arguing over me still enjoying the game and having to withstand me wanting to still enjoy the game, seeing it constantly critized, constantly mocked and laughed up as if project moon's games where never good dispite the same people having been pm fans before. And after the situation with Vellmori resolved and it was revealed she quitted? i had to fucking face that according to some people even those i respected they didnt believe she quitted but rather "project moon forced her to quit to save their public image"(which if that had been the case that would have been the first ever response by pm and not one that came literal months later and leaked by the User association and not project moon themselfs), twisting the narrative to its last extents so to excuse still hating on project moon. To this day this is the case of refusing to trust any official statements or anything at all, and im honestly clueless on how to feel if angry for their dismissive attitude or worried and try better at helping them see the missinformation. Now another thing i wanted to comment that i feel too is very fitting for this video is the Mili/Casey situation with Project moon, the lead guitarrist that plays for Mili made some vague tweets in the same day the controversy happened about how "people shouldnt jump to conclusions so soon", so basically a very vague series of tweets that hinted at defending project moon, well people rapidly either dismissed it as untrue or that somehow the guitarist was a bad person and a missfit in Mili's band. Then when Casey herself defended project moon she got massively harrassed and dubbed as a Misoginist and a bad pro-capitalist corporation defender that hates individual workers, Im not fucking kidding, dispite most of Casey's songs being quite against corporations or employee abuse. When that wasnt enough they just resorted to dig into her past to find a valid reason to dismiss her positive opinion on pm and hate her and that there was no way Project moon could have been a good company ever(dispite the fact that Mili made an entire song as a love letter for pm for how much they enjoyed working with them). And had to see people who had loved Mili's songs for years just go from one day to another call her and the band as horrible shitty people. As a final words on this comment, i have to thank you for this video as this topic was one that was haunting me and one i even was considering making a video myself about it too since i was so tired of seeing the missinformation about Vellmori and Project moon still go around. (also sorry for the wall of text comment.)

Thank you for actual research. There's a channel called moon channel that did a video on the vellmori topic but kept painting it that she was fired.The video kept implying that she was fired even comparing it to another incident where another korean company released a statement that their employee is leaving because gender stuff but was actually fired. Even though there's proof showing that vellmori left on her own volition

There's a bit more context to the Bridget story. This had happened in the midst of when translators were caught and admitted to having changed content to insert memes and their own political viewpoints. This was also during the time when Twitter/X was waging a war against Traps (male characters who dress female but identify as male) and accuse it and anyone into it as being transphobic. Long time fans wanted to preserve Bridgette as they were while others saw it as inclusive even when they didn't support the series before. Many older fans believe the change was only added to try and appeal to a newer fanbase (things like this are still happening to this day due to Twitter/X drama). Either way this situation was very poorly handled and left a lot of parties feeling bitter

We Americans SAY that everyone is entitled to their opinions, but we don't MEAN it.

Great video, People that treat fictional content as reality are the most insane people and are terminally online. Like you can say you like x character drawing and someone will say that you are the most horrible personne for doing so, it's insane.